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Ubuntu Hardy Heron Announced
Jono Bacon, Community Manager for Ubuntu, has announced development on the next version of the popular Linux distribution name "Hardy Heron". "Not only will the Ubuntu community continue to do what it does best, produce an easy-to-use, reliable, free software platform, but this release will proudly wear the badge of Long Term Support (LTS) and be supported with security updates for five years on the server and three years on the desktop. We look forward to releasing the Hardy Heron in April 2008."
...because I would have loved to see a Hungry Hippo release.
I've got a dirty mind, but this name conjures up images of a sex-crazed bird terrorizing his native wetlands.
Ceci n'est pas une sig.
Apart from being silly, the code names add confusion to Ubuntu's already-confusing version numbering system.
So much for Ubuntu "Horny Homo". Just kidding, I'll still call it that.
On a semi-related note, I've come to like Linux Mint. Its built on Ubuntu and includes some non-free packages(Video codecs, MP3 support, so forth). Also has some of its own config tools which are alright. Not perfect though, I had a little trouble with dual monitor support. Overall, its a pretty nice distro.
Yeah, I already know this is going to -1 hell. I don't care. I'll keep it short at least.
I tried to install the AMD 64-bit version of Feisty, and the CD wouldn't even boot. None of my hardware is exotic by any stretch of the imagination, yet the GUI installer wouldn't even load. A few inquiries on the Ubuntu forums got a few suggestions to try the non-GUI install. I don't feel I should have to slog through a text install in the year 2007, so I didn't give Feisty a second thought.
I'll try Hardy, but it better work out of the box. It's hard to promote a distribution to friends when the damn thing couldn't even boot as a live CD.
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I always knew the FSF crowd were on some good drugs...
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Introducing the Hardy Heron
August 29th, 2007
I am delighted to have the pleasure of announcing the Hardy Heron (Ubuntu 8.04), the next version of Ubuntu that will succeed Gutsy Gibbon (Ubuntu 7.10, due for release in October 2007). Not only will the Ubuntu community continue to do what it does best, produce an easy-to-use, reliable, free software platform, but this release will proudly wear the badge of Long Term Support (LTS) and be supported with security updates for five years on the server and three years on the desktop. We look forward to releasing the Hardy Heron in April 2008.
With the opening of each new release cycle of Ubuntu, we have more and more opportunity at our fingertips. Not only are our friends in the upstream world constantly innovating and extending their applications and software, but the Ubuntu community continues to see incredible growth in its diverse range of areas such as packaging, development, documentation, quality assurance, translations, LoCo teams and more. Each new release gives us all an opportunity to shine, irrespective of which bricks in the project we are laying, and this is at the heart of our belief - working together to produce an Operating System that will empower its users and shape the IT industry, putting free software at the corner-stone of our direction.
Most people only ever see the end-user view of Ubuntu, running it on their desktops, servers and mobile devices around the world. For these users, Ubuntu provides a simple, convenient means to do what they want to do easily, effectively and without unnecessary complexity. For many of us though, we want to open up the hood and understand how the system works and how to extend and grow it. Thousands of us get out of bed every day, united behind Ubuntu, ready to make a difference, working together to make our vision happen.
Importantly, our ethos of collaboration and freedom extends to the development process as well as the end product. As such, the Ubuntu development process is a very open, transparent one, and anyone is welcome to get involved. It works like this:
* Everyone is welcome to think of and develop ideas for features that could be present in the Hardy Heron release. These ideas are written as specifications (detailed documents outlining how the idea would work and be implemented). You are welcome to add your specifications to https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu.
* In October 2007, we will hold the Ubuntu Developer Summit in Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA and generate a schedule of sessions to discuss these specifications. The sessions provide a means for interested parties to help scope out the proposed feature and determine methods and plans to implement it. The Ubuntu Developer Summit is a semi-virtual event in which those who cannot attend can dial in with VoIP and use IRC and collaborative editing with Gobby to take part in the summit.
Everyone is welcome to participate, everyone is welcome to get involved, and everyone is welcome to help shape the form of the Hardy Heron. Let's work together to shake things up, make things happen and make the most compelling Ubuntu release yet. Start your engines...
Hail Eris, full of mischief...
E pluribus sanguinem
I guess Hardly Heroin wasn't an option.
I've said it before and say it again... these silly names are hurting Ubuntu. When you need to convince a boss that installing Ubuntu on office computers is the way to go, you'd need a more professional sounding name. "Windows XP" or "BeOS 5" sounds fine. But "Ubuntu Hardy Heron" does not. Sure you can use the 7.10 number, but it seems that the Ubuntu community prefers not to use the numbers, and these silly names actually crop up within the OS more.
"Happy Harry Hard On" from the movie Pump Up The Volume. Yeah Boss we need to install Happy Harry Hard On.
Ubuntu Hairy Hardo... I mean, er, Hardy Heron, was announced today to much polite coughing.
Will this be the version on Ubuntu production servers, or are they going to run old, vulnerable version on them so people can compromise them?
LOL They would be better off running Windows 2003 Server.
"Hardy Heron"
This is one thing that drives me crazy about Ubuntu... these names are elitist and completely unintuitive. There is no obvious relationship between the version numbers and the names.
Somebody on the forums many mention a solution for "Feisty", but a new Ubuntu user may not understand that the solution will work on 7.0x, but WON'T WORK on Ubuntu 6.06. In order to know that "Feisty Fawn" is Ubuntu 7.0something, I have to know Ubuntu, dig around unmaintained Wikis, look it up on Wikipedia. I shouldn't need to waste this time-- I just need to get the damn thing working.
For example, do you see the phrase "Feisty Fawn" or "Gutsy whatever" listed anywhere on the top level support sites at ubuntu.com? No. Why not?
https://help.ubuntu.com/
http://www.ubuntu.com/
Somewhere, deep in the document ion you may find a map of Names-to-versions. But if you need a map just to achieve step one, your documentation has failed.
I don't care what anyone with a clue says about path-based security, ubuntu developers know best!
That and the inclusion of mono basically remove it from serious consideration.
No sooner does Yahoo report that worldwide illegal drug use isn't growing for the first time since drug prohibition started producing illegal drug use in the mid 19th century, then slashdot reports that Ubuntu Hardy Heroin is Announced!
Damned drug smuggling penguins...
I think I'll hold out for "Incontinent Iguana."
Do I get royalties on this?
As for me, I'm looking forward to what they come up with for the letter X, and I'd like to be the first to suggest Xanthic Xerbus.
"There is nothing so American as our national parks.... " - President Franklin D. Roosevelt
Hey, Ubuntu developers. I'd like to suggest the name for your next release.. "Killer Green Bud"
"I bow to no man" - Riddick
Are we now getting update information of the new code names of all open source projects on Slashdot?
This is interesting news about the "Long Term Support" thing. If they can pull it off, then it will be a major step forward. However....3-5 years? Most distros only have their spot in the sun for 2-3 years. I guess this is their attempt to break that trend.
The shrink in me thinks you're mixing the two words... "Hardy Heron"
/sarcasm
You dirty, dirty boy!
Anyone else read it as "Hardly Heroin"?
insolent iguana jealous jackal etc. u... u... u... unbecoming umbrellabird seriously, there are very few animals that begin with u. this will end in tears
I'm not saying it's your fault, or you must be wrong, or anything like that, but I installed Feisty on my AMD x64 machine, and it worked just fine. The graphical installer worked fine. Firefox and flash worked fine. So although you've clearly experienced a problem, it's not a problem with all x64 systems, and it may not even be an x64-related issue at all. BTW, if the CD wouldn't boot, one thing to check would be the checksum on the ISO file, if you downloaded it.
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Idiomatic Inanity?
They are links. Have you tried clicking them? (and, underlines on links disappearing on mouseover has been a common design feature of websites for, like, the past five years)
We've secretly replaced Slashdot with new Folgers Crystals - let's see if it notices.
It seems that these releases are targeted for distinctive Victorian-period engravings.
"Flyin' in just a sweet place,
Never been known to fail..."
subject isn't a link, text bar comes up when you mouse over them.
My Babylon
Gosh, no, it never occurred to me to try clicking on them. *rolls eyes*
They ain't no links on my damn FireFox. What are they links to, genius? What does the status bar say when you hover on 'em? What website does it take you to? How come no other article has fake-link underlines on the subjects of every comment?
Tell me, Random832, do you have a blog or something I could read? I bet you make entertaining dumb-ass observations like this all the time. I bet you go to the grocery store and see people eating grapes without paying for them, and then you go home and write a hand-wringing blogpost about how the rule of law is crumbling around us.
...we will shorten this to Ubuntu Hardon
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Ingrate Ibis?
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Great Ganja
...
Green Ganja
Golden Ganja
You ever install Ubuntu... on weed? Oh, there's some crazy shit, man. There's a penguin in the distro box. Has he got a gun? I dunno! RED TEAM GO, RED TEAM GO.
It would be interesting to know more about what's planned for Gibbon and Hippo. I'm currently running Feisty on all my home and work machines, and in general it works great. TFA does have a link to a wikified wishlist for Hippo, but that's not the same as knowing what the focus of the release is really going to be: usability, innovation, stability? I'd guess the focus won't be innovation, since they're going to make it a long-term support release.
Here's my person impression of what's already okay in Feisty, and what needs to be improved.
Already okay in Feisty:
Problems with Feisty:
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....sums it up
http://xkcd.com/178/
There is more to science than physics!
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they are links. your subject links to this url: http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=282945&c id=20402197
onclick opens/closes the comment and cancels opening the link. middle-click if you want to open the link instead.
When I say we're installing "Ubuntu Feisty", sure, it sounds... different. But it doesn't actually sound stupid, like it would if I said "Feisty Fawn".
.NET, Word, Office, Internet Explorer, etc. They choose names that are so generic that you get most people confusing them with something else almost instantly. It's difficult to talk about a "Word processor", because most people hear that and think MS Word. It took Firefox long enough, and we still have to deal with people who think the Internet is Internet Explorer.
Same with Gusty. In fact, Hardy works even better.
I also tend to like names that don't actually offend programmers. Windows XP seems to me a deliberate attempt to steal the XP acronym -- and they have. XP used to stand for "Xtreme Programming", which is actually a very useful concept, and one which might have avoided some of the dumber problems Windows has had.
And they do this all the time.
So now we have names like "Ubuntu" and "Hardy", and I think they work well -- they're distinctive, and they don't actually sound like anything else in the same field.
Don't thank God, thank a doctor!
In Ubuntu, as a matter of course, I go enable the Universe and Multiverse repositories, which is now a point-and-click operation. That done, codecs are just stupidly easy: apt-get install vlc.
And done. All your media codecs are now enabled.
It's not automatic, so it could be better. But I find it very odd that people even bring up codec support anymore -- after I install mplayer and vlc, I have codecs for 99% of the content out there, all open. People still talk about win32codecs, and the hassle of making them work on amd64, but I know of about one thing that isn't supported without those codecs, and I doubt it will take very long.
Don't thank God, thank a doctor!
It's either Hungry Hippo or Horny Hobbit.
'Once scientists, even the dim-witted social scientists, get muzzled, the Western Civilization is finished.' - oldhack
Exactly.
They don't like "Feisty Fawn"?
Or is it "Ubuntu"?
Or maybe "Linux"?
If they're going to complain about names, then they'll always have a reason to bitch. Any professional shop would look at what it could do, not what it was named.
First of all, Windows doesn't boot as a LiveCD. Or maybe Vista does, but last I checked, XP does, in fact, start you off with a textual install. Ubuntu's textual install is basically the same as its graphical one, it's just not as pretty -- there's no "slogging" at all.
Second, there are most likely ways to make it work, even in graphical mode. You, apparently, didn't even try. Were it any other product, would you have given up on it that easily? I wouldn't.
Don't thank God, thank a doctor!
Not for me (FF 2.0.0.6 on Debian Etch)
Left click does nothing, middle click brings up an error box saying "The URL is not valid and cannot be loaded" and right click brings up the same menu as if I'd clicked on any other non-link part of the page.
Start saying "Windows Vista Longhorn" and "Windows XP Whistler".
The default cannibal virgin sacrifice drums that play at every possible juncture probably don't help the "serious" image much either.
I use Ubuntu on my laptop and always get chuckles when I log in to it at work. They probably think I'm playing Civilization or WoW or something.
I, for one, feel that Ubuntu has missed a golden opportunity by not calling the next release "Goatse Gnu". No-one could ever forget the powerful image that would create, burned into the brains of geeks everywhere as a landmark release. Imagine the logo!
looking forward to gruesome goatse
The titles are anchors, a sort of in-document links. They are itself not clickable, but a valid target to link to via
http://example.com/url/#anchor
The browser will then jump directly to the position of the anchor. If you use Firefox, you can remove the hover behaviour if you install the extension "Stylish" and then add a new CSS file for slashdot.org which looks like this:
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Meme of the day: I browse "Disable Sigs: Checked". So should you.
Am I the only one who, upon first glance, got "Hard-on" out of that?
Ubuntu Hardon. Perfect for downloading porn...
10 FILL MUG WITH COFFEE
20 DRINK COFFEE
30 GOTO 10
If so I suggest "Awkwardly Anal Anaconda"
Belief is the currency of delusion.
Ubuntu is getting more and more exposure, and is getting quite the reputation for the easiest to use Linux around. If this trend continues, then the Silly Names will be associated with Ease-of-Use and Supportability. Then, only fly-by-night Linux distributions will be using boring, non-alliterative version numbers to identify their releases. Who will be laughing THEN?
Article is about that finally another Ubuntu LTS is comming and everyone and his/her dog bitching how silly Ubuntu code names are. Not about bugs, not about how to help to solve them, but about FUCKIN FREAKIN code names!
If you choose software just by code names, you are completely lost. And if you thinking that word "Hard" is embarrassing, you definitely have too less sex, and never have thought what "Longhorn" actually can mean.
(ooh, there goes my karma)
In a mean time, click here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heron to see man with...ohhh, it is just bird. Nevermind.
user@ubuntubox:~$ stfu This server is going down for shutdown NOW!
If it's not Consolidated Lint, it's just fuzz!
And only use the version number when you mention Ubuntu.
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Hardy Heron: Me support you long time.
If you mod this up, your slashdot background will turn into a beautiful sunset!
Longhorn
convincing someone that the best platform for their needs is "Hardy Heron" in a professional environment is difficult
Then don't bother. Jebus, Ubuntu seems pretty damned successful on the desktop. They're being used increasingly in the server space. Do you *really* think they give a damn if a couple idiot IT folks rule it out because of the name?
In my experience power management works far better under Kubuntu than it does under Ubuntu.
I had the same problem with the battery reporting itself as dead at bootup with my Toshiba laptop as you did under Edgy Ubuntu. I moved to Feisty Kubuntu, and I haven't had any problems since. Also, suspend and hibernate have been working pretty well with Kubuntu too.
The television will not be revolutionized.
on the next alphabet cycle ...
That's the first I've heard of it. How come this distribution name is so popular already? And why does a popular name need another version?
I didn't RTFA, but I'm wondering if anyone around here knows.
I've been hearing for a bit that there is an Xorg rewrite coming down the pipe which will reduce or eliminate Xorg.conf and make it much, much easier for multiple monitors on multiple display devices to actually function.
Is this going to be in GG, or HH, or is it just vaporware?
How about "Hungry Hippy"? That would had worked. [grin]
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Finally, a true master's weapon. The One Power-forged, heron-mark blade server.
I hope I haven't made the first WoT reference.
Those who have telepathy have no need to RTFA.
I'll second that. I actually haven't used (GNOME) Ubuntu much, even though it came pre-installed on my Dell laptop, but on the Kubuntu which I installed the day I got my laptop, power management is great. After I hit Ctrl-Alt-Del, Alt-H, it takes about 20-30 seconds to go into Hibernation (zero power consumption) --but I don't care, since I just close the laptop and stick it in my bag while it's still running. If I just close the lid, it takes about 5 seconds to go into Suspended mode (minimal but non-zero power consumption), and about as long to come out of it once I reopen the lid. If hibernating, it takes about 45 seconds to get back from power-on to the previous usable state.
Given my past bad experiences trying to use ACPI with prior Linux distros, I am delighted at the power management capabilities. For once, instead of tweaking Linux, I can actually turn on the computer and *use* it. I find that I don't need to spend that much time on my computer *doing* things --and I actually have more time to do other things, like take walks outdoors, do chores, or sit back and relax with a book (on my Treo, of course). It's very liberating.
I don't know if it's GNUbuntu or just the way it's set up on your computer. You might want to think about installing Kubuntu power mgmt apps, or even installing Kubuntu and then using your GNOME apps.
404555974007725459910684486621289147856453481154 in hex is "You sank my Battleship?"
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Allow me to submit a few they could choose from in the future.
Irritable Iguana
Jocular Jellyfish
Konstipated Kangaroo
Llustful Llama
Moody Moonbat
Naughty Nautilus
Onomatopoeic Ocelot
Pervy Penguin
Quizzical Quetzalcoatl (we can use mythological beasties if BSD can use daemons)
Randy Rhino
Secret Squirrel
Truculent Tapir
Unctuous Ungulate
Vituperative Vole
Woeful Walrus
Xenophobic Xenu (posted here previously, I like)
Yearnful Yak
Zoophilic Zebra
Kwisatz Haderach
Sell the spice to CHOAM
This Mahdi took Shaddam's Throne
...can everyone just take a number and form a line?
If I prove mastery of this Linux distribution, can I get herons branded on my hands and the right to carry around a heron marked DVD?
I only look human.
My mother is a halfling and my dad is an ogre, so that makes me an Ogreling
I'm waiting for the Unreasonable UbuntuDupe release.
You forgot BOB. Where's BOB? What's that? Trying to forget...huh?
Oh I see. Carry on. Nothing to see here.
For that sort of installation it sounds like the LTS edition would be much more preferable. Ie it is supported for longer (much longer if you only need the server installation) and will have a one hop upgrade to the next LTS (rather than a two stop upgrade from Feisty).
If you aren't telling them you want to install "Ubuntu 6.06 Long Term Support" then frankly you are shooting yourself in the foot.
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Some suggestions in place of the fictional ones Quirky Quetzal Xenophophic Xoloitzquintle If I ever play Scrabble, I'll have to remember the last one!
The world is made by those who show up for the job.
crap, sorry about the formatting.
The world is made by those who show up for the job.
I have to say what makes me laugh about this entire thread, is that people complain it doesn't "just work" and then go out and buy themselves a "lappy". A lappy with wifi. Buying a lappy is like marrying five people simultaneously and not being able to divorce any of them. Wifi is like also having a mistress on the side, in case the harem is too harmonious. So it becomes Ubuntu's problem to function as the go-between and keep the dysfunctional union ticking along nicely. Oh joy to Ubuntu.
We should study wifi client deployment for deep insight into multi-dimensional packing problems. Any three distinct wifi clients wishing to connect to a single AP will force the AP to be configured into the least secure possible mode. What should we call that? The Hamming effect?
If I filled my desktop PC with two gallons of epoxy resin, then I could also join the just-work killer bee swarm. By definition, once I've deprived myself of the latitude to fix it myself, it instantly becomes the problem of the upsteam provider, and since I'm not otherwise busy with fixing anything (the brokenness is welded, baked, and boxed), I've nothing else to do but complain about it.
Maybe Ubuntu needs to emit a more forceful installer message: Sorry, lappy dude, your APIC is fucked. Patch available at ebay.com. Batteries not included.
Windows has a similar pre-release name structure:
Comely Cairo
Mighty Memphis
Nervous Neptune
Warty Whistler
See?
Any word on any improvements in the next Ubuntu release ("7.10", I guess) targeting PlayStation3 features?
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Why is Hardy now the LTS distro? Or are both supported?
Maybe it's just because I grew up in Plano, Tx, but did anyone else read that as "Hardy Heroin"?
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This is a general Linux problem, not a Ubuntu only problem. But, I would like to see better wireless card support. This is one area where Linux falls down. Somehow there needs to be a closer relationship between wireless chipset manufacturers and the Linux community. How? I am not sure, I just know it is hurting the Linux rep. Is it Linux's fault? Of course not, its the manufacturers fault. but if Linux wants to be taken more seriously as a desktop solution this is the number one place to start IMHO.
As for getting mass migration to Ubuntu? Beryl, Beryl, Beryl! Average Joe Smo doesn't care about security or stability, they care about eye candy and bragging rights. Beryl is impressive enough to show off and impress friends. Some might even install it and show there friends.
Would be great if you were releasing an oldskool unix distro, instead of these new fangled user-friendly thingies.
Escher was the first MC and Giger invented the HR department.
Which is an official copy mailed by Ubuntu, not something I burned at home... There is the following print:
"It is legally free to use, modify, and redistribute this CD".
Doesn't mention anything about GPL, or the fact there ARE some restrictions on modification and subsequent redistribution of Ubuntu as something that uses the Linux kernel which is licensed under the GPL (namely, it must be released under the GPL too0.
So, seeing this print, does that mean I can redistribute mods of that CD under proprietary license (or just not share my source), and if I get in trouble for copyvio blame Ubuntu?
What is a "Hardy Heron?" Could it be a heron that likes to hang around with white republican types and solve mysteries circa 1953?
Sonic FTW
LOL, now they fixed it! I was right! I was right!
Didn't they want to acknowledge RMS's efforts in promoting Unix-like operating systems? :-)
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I think the whole community will be shocked if the next version will be called Ubuntu 8.10 Standard Edition
We often refuse to accept an idea merely because the tone of voice in which it has been expressed is unsympathetic to us
Agreed.
"Veronica Mars" is a TV show about high school kids, of whom the titular character is a sleuth. One of the scenes from the first season (2005?) showed the nerdy hs geek and the rather cool-looking geekess arguing the merits of Ubuntu vs OS X.
That TV show is not G4TechTV, nor even a nerd show by any stretch of the imagination.
I wouldn't worry about the reputation of Ubuntu and whether people have heard of it.
People used to think that "Gaylord" was a dorky name for an athlete, too, until the athlete took home the Olympic gold in gymnastics.
404555974007725459910684486621289147856453481154 in hex is "You sank my Battleship?"
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Can we make this Naked Natalie? I think the Slashdot community will unanimously agree.
I'm holding out for Sanctimonious Sloth, though I may break down somewhere around Insensitive Iguana.
in another 2 years we'll get Lazy Lobster, then another 2 until Panzy Penguin.
Seriously though, *buntu is a great OS (set) but, at least for the LTS releases (as they stand a slightly better chance of being used in a business world) ought to have at least slightly more serious names.
Slightly.
I've been experimenting with Ubuntu for about 2 years now on and off, I try it each new release.
:/
I've tried every release from 5.04 onwards, each time I've had difficulty getting things working.
Initially intel 2200 wireless cards, then after purchasing a new card, getting WPA to work.
Now, finally WPA is out of the box on atheros cards however my rt2500, not so much.
Sure in Windows sometimes stuff doesn't work too but in order to get things like this fixed under linux is very very difficult.
(I've been using PC's for 16 years this year mind you)
I read forums I post on forums, I try my best to figure it out but it just doesn't seem that simple at ALL.
Sure it's free and yes the guys over at the ubuntuforums certainly defy the stereotypical 'rtfm noob!' responses of yesteryear in # ultimately though it's still just crazy hard and I really don't want much (promise)
The latest edition of Ubuntu (7.04 iirc) doesn't work properly on Dell 8600 displays, the driver is dead and glitchy weird scanlines appear on the display (mind you this has never been a problem before)
Sure you'll tell me it's a proprietary driver issue or ATI's fault and you'd be right but I'm typing this post from the perspective of a Windows user, I don't care, sorry but I don't - I just want it to work, I'd love to replace Windows.
I want to emphasize I'd be happy to persevere if say my graphics, sound and networking were fine, as long as I can sit on the couch and browse that's a great start, further issues like downloading things, burning dvd's, re-encoding media, manipulating images that is less important than the core functionality (although damned important too)
I do not want to use Windows Vista (don't get me started, terrible stuff)
I'm an end user and I'm a gamer but I'm happy to dual boot XP and Ubuntu or if I get sick of my Desktop PC and PC gaming, go entirely 360 / PS3 and Ubuntu on the laptop but... at this rate Ubuntu isn't happening for me, been trying so long with so little luck
I've no doubt some will mod this overrated others troll but this is how it is from 'our' perspective over in the Windows / end user camp, we just need it to work, I'll keep on trying eventually it will work, I hope.
(note: I am not saying it's all bad, synaptic is a fantastic concept, works well, free is awesome, overall UI doesn't seem too bad either)
Am I the only one who sees "Hardy Heron" and flips the syllables of the words around?
I wouldn't bring this up, but I scrolled down the page and could of sworn I saw Hery Hardon.
Whoever Hery is, he must really like Ubuntu...
Fixed that for ya.
Go ahead: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames
LOL! A down mod, but no score superior to the one I post, using "the inferior in security Windows" on a multiplatform test of security?
/. with some evidence of my own, that they are free to prove their words with after all. Completely fair... and yet, a down-mod!)
/., then, back it up, with some proofs of your own via CIS TOOL... pretty simple enough, go for it... apk
Come on...
(I mean, I am only replying to someone saying that *NIX security is so much stronger on their OS platform here @
ROTFLMAO!
APK
P.S.=> I mean, if you're telling it how it is, with this:
"(Insert *NIX variant here) is more secure/securable than Windows"
material you guys put out here @
My idea would be "Hardy Hardon"... or is it nerdy hardon? Serves us right, heh.
The Parent is right. By the GP's definition, most "professional" IT companies are fucked. They are all made of human beings with human weaknesses. The name gives the first impression, and no matter how misleading it may be, people will always put some stock into it.
You know, there is a difference between trolling and pointing out the flaws in your reasoning. Just saying.
Here's the culprit: (http://images.slashdot.org/slashdot_linux.css/ so stylesheets are images?) Good CSS practice would of course be to define a:link and a:visited instead of just a. Usually there's no reason to highlight anchors.
Of course this use of named anchors is obsolete as you can just use an element's id as a link target nowadays.
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... why do you consider the pre-release codenames "elitist"?
You know, there is a difference between trolling and pointing out the flaws in your reasoning. Just saying.
I think this is bad for marketing since a new major version number generates more hype than a minor release. Consider non-free software. Would you be more willing to pay say $100 for an upgrade from v7.04 -> 7.10 or v7.10 -> 8.04? Although Ubunutu is free they still rely on marketing.
You want fun, go home and buy a monkey!
You shouldn't say "We should use Ubuntu Feisty Fawn" since that is just a point release. You should say "We should use Ubuntu starting with release x.x codenamed Feisty Fawn". If they say "Whaddayamean, Feisty Fawn?!" you could say they have a smart versioning system that lets you know how old a release is, and they name each point release alphabetically so even if you don't memorize the version number you can know that "F" (Feisty) is two point releases later than "D" (Dapper) which is a darned good idea.
One nice thing is the famous librarian who made that video about installing Ubuntu really liked the name. I remember very well her saying something like, "I just love saying the name Ubuntu! Ubuntu, Ubuntu, Ubuntu, Ubuntu..." So people who enjoy these names also may contribute enthusiasm. And, Ubuntu's meaning is cool too.
....I think I'll pass, and wait for Queer Quahog.
OK, so it sounds kind of clammy; let's hope we don't have to shell out any money for it,
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- aqk
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While I prefer 32-bit Ubuntu I've installed the 64-bit version on the side for every version since Breezy. This is on an HP ZV6130us - a very linux-unfriendly laptop. I've had little problems with it, and it always booted into the liveCD without issue. Odd that you've had issues.
Maybe it's just me, but I always spelled that "exp".
Then again, I'm also the type to usually spell things out, rather than simply lol stfu nub.
Ah. Now I know why -- the MMO I play has EXP clearly marked, right next to VITA, MANA, and GOLD.
Don't thank God, thank a doctor!
I installed 7.04 on my one year old laptop yesterday just to see if I could finally get away from Windows on normal daily home desktop use.
Turned out the GUI version installation CD didn't work with my hardware (ok), so I had to download the alternative install CD. It didn't recognize my dhcp during the install (ok). After the installation, Gnome didn't start because it told me I had no monitor at all (ok). After RTFM, I got the network to work by simply telling it to use dhcp in the config file and Gnome began to work with new drivers and some config tweaking as well.
So the GUI works, everything seems to be in order, I figure Windows and OSX have been able to use wlan in laptops for years so I try to turn it on here. Great, it sees my wlan, now I just enter my passphrase and select WPA2 from this menu... wait, why is there only WEP available?
RTFM tells it all: "Ubuntu does not automatically support WPA encryption"
I mean, it's 2007! Almost 2008! And this thing is telling me that in order to use Linux in my home I should remove any encryption from my wlan? And that I could try to go through a lengthy installation of WPA with tweaking config files again, but even the guide tells me that "sometimes WPA just won't work".
Don't talk back!
The Microsoft (nee. IBM) industry sub-standard monoculture is founded on the suit-friendly "nobody ever got fired for buying IBM" culture and the fact that PHBs are too insecure in their maturity to deal with computers named after fruit or star trek characters.
Publishers of Harry Potter and other "too good for children" children's literature have got the idea - produce "adult cover" editions for those sad, sad people who are too uptight to be seen dead reading a book with a brightly coloured cover on the train (and too stupid to realise that it still says "Harry Potter" in large friendly letters on the cover)*.
Of course, there is Ubuntu 6.06LTS - but there's still that tricky "Ubuntu" name - your stereotypical "conservative" PHB is usually White Anglo-Saxon Protestant, so you'd be safer with something pseudo-latin ending with "-itas", "-ia" or "-um" (justified with some pseudo-psychological newspeak about encompassing the prodynamic metaresponsive approach of something, and using "leverage" as a verb) than a Bantu word incorporating some warm fuzzy communist tree-hugging philosophy.
(*OK - I know that, in reality, this is probably more to do with getting bookshops to display them outside the kids department - also I confess to briefly owning an adult-cover copy of "The Northern Lights" but it was the only one in the shop & I gave it away as soon as I got a proper copy).
In a survey of 100 programmers, 111111 thought that duck-typing was a good idea.
That is the real question.
I'm not repeating myself
I'm an X window user; I'm an ex-Windows user
I still run Ubuntu (hasn't done anything to date to make me want to leave, and is doing a good job of bringing new technology to me in a stable form than others with their release cycle.
I will say, hawever, the 'easier to manage' part is largely people who were disenchanted with the RedHat situation a long time ago. Since finally adapting yum, the RedHat/CentOS world has something that is roughly equivalent to apt (IMO, the key thing that RH didn't officially have that made the difference). Yum has behaviors I don't like (i.e. yum search is much harder to parse through than aptitude search), but the fact remains, I admin a CentOS server and it's trivial to manage, not that different from Ubuntu anymore.
I tried Fedora back in the day, but they were, at the time, too aggressive and things broke frequently and behaved poorly (this was the Fedora Core 1/2 days), but I have no idea how they are now. I will say Ubuntu gets things done in a good balance, but I don't claim that the others haven't adopted strategies/policies that bring it up to par.
XML is like violence. If it doesn't solve the problem, use more.
Does this mean they'll finally get it right at "Zealous Zebra" and quit with these danged updates?
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You were right about what, exactly? It's still a link, and it's still underlined. Can I assume your incoherent post means that it works for you now? It seems more likely the problem was with your browser [and somehow it fixed itself, maybe you restarted it] than with slashdot.
We've secretly replaced Slashdot with new Folgers Crystals - let's see if it notices.
If you can't put that in order, well, then, not sure you could work at MacDonald's let alone install Linux. ---waiting for Zippy Zebra
The ridiculous code names along with the touchy-feely imagery really turn me off to the idea of using Ubuntu.