Oh, and for another tidbit. Ice, since its denser, and heavier than the insulating foam, is a bigger problem than the foam is when it breaks off. It takes a smaller chunk of ice to break off and smack the orbiter to cause an equivalent amount of damager to a larger chunk of foam.
Foam does more damage than ice. Ice is dense and keeps its velocity high, which translates to a low velocity relative to the shuttle. Foam on the other hand is much less dense and slows down very quickly, translating to high velocities relative to the shuttle.
Remember, kinetic energy = 0.5 * mass * V^2. Velocity is what kills, not mass.
Private initiatives **Are** working at it. First step is LEO. From LEO, you are halfway to anywhere in the solar system. A great number of private ventures are working on LEO access.
... at a price noone wants to pay. I'm sorry, but then I'll stick with the original statement: the moon still has no economic or military value.
The delta-V to get to the moon is something on the order of 13 km/sec. Which sucks. The delta-V from the moon to earth reentry is somewhere around 3 km/sec. So if we send up some people and some processing machinery, returning stuff is easy compared to what it took to get it up there, because you've sent it out of the gravity well of earth. Returning it is as easy as getting it out of the moon's gravity well to LEO (2.74 km/sec) and giving it a little kick in the pants to re-enter. You could use (eventually) a rail gun, etc. It isn't something we can do tomorrow but in the next 20-40 years? Definitely.
Read 'The Moon is a Harsh Mistress' by Heinelien for an envisionment of a moon outpost for materials processing and return...
Who said a 'bed' had to be a box spring and a matress? My bed in college was a couch. In space a thin sleeping bag could work nicely. Larger, though, to accomodate the significant other:P
And an elliptical machine isnt gonna do you much good in space. You need an exercise machine that puts your body in compression to retain bone mass.
Suprised I haven't seen this pointed out yet, while everyone is so happy to see Vista not picked for the job, neither was Linux. So Microsoft wins anyways.
remember, on earth we look at homes by floorplans. In space, things can be utilized more efficiently because your ceiling is your floor is your wall. You can have a bed on the ceiling and free up 'floor' space. It's all relative. There need not be blank walls, unless there is a window with a view.
I'm not a fan of BPL (as an amateur radio/shortwave enthusiast) but according to what I've read the FCC had a backup device in case the test article failed, which Microsoft claims it did... however the FCC did not even attempt to use the backup for analysis! And there have been rumors of pandering to the existing TV service (which won't exist in 2 years... or will it?) again, its a mess and sometimes things just look like the FCC are stacking the cards in profit's way instead of progress'. All I'm saying is give this coalition a fair shake, it doesn't look like the FCC did.
There is some conspiracy to the story as the prior two posters have pointed out. Also, notice that this particular article was cherry-picked as only mentioning Microsoft - the coalition also involves Google, Dell and others. If that were presented, then who would you be rooting for? (OMG! Its google! It must be teh good!)
Yes, the Linux kernel allows end users to do whatever they want. But what you can't do, is to take the linux kernel, add your own closed source, and distribute the end product. This is what VMware are doing.
You have seen the source then, I take it? No? Speculation, then.
And many kernel developers consider all closed source modules to be illegal
You're perfectly able to look up the history behind a publisher, but without the "about the author" paragraph at the back of the book, it's easier to look up the identity of the person editing a wikipedia article.
A name is all you need. It is pretty easy to track down nonfiction authors in this day and age.
You compared Wikipedia to a library, I countered, and now you are backpedaling and saying it is better than "Oprah's list", "any major news source on TV".
The faulty administration system is just a defect in an otherwise flawless idea.
Libraries are great because recognized experts in their respective fields write books in their respective fields and get published by book companies because - guess what - since they are recognized experts in their respective fields, their results can be, for the most part, trusted to be accurate and worthy of study.
Kinda sounds a bit more like Citizendium than Wikipedia to me...
More or less. Make your code as free as possible. If you want to share it, why not maximize its sharing potential?
And don't give me the crap about 'well company X will lock it up and make it proprietary with their changes'... who cares! Your contribution is still free. They chose their path, you chose yours.
Win XP had a text-to-speech processor back when I was doing XP installs in high school, more than 8 years ago. (we fiddled with accessibility options a few times for special needs users) Who copies who now?:)
There was this guy, I forget his name, I think he flew a kite and got electrocuted, something about exchanging essential liberties for freedom... OK, a stretch you might say, but any time you voluntarily give up freedoms that you have in order to 'gain security', you lose.
Your math sucks or you told it wrong. They paid 30 and were reimbursed $3. So they paid a total of $27. The bellboy received $2 and the hotelier $25.
money paid = money received.
27 = 25 + 2.
... PS2 clusters have been used for calculations by the NCSA. And supooosedly (insert grain of salt) Saddam Hussein was buying up PS2's to get around those pesky export restrictions to build a computing cluster for a weapons program.
But it makes sense. There are a lot of parallels between scientific and game/graphics computing, intense mathematical operations namely. So it would make sense that a processor optimized for gaming would be good for scientific research. Look at the folding at home project, for example.
I count 60 licenses. Qmail is NOT OSI certified. Affero is not approved either, or at least I can't find a single reference claiming it to be. So out of the 60 OSI-certified licenses, GPL stands to be the worst, you agree with me?
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Oh, and for another tidbit. Ice, since its denser, and heavier than the insulating foam, is a bigger problem than the foam is when it breaks off. It takes a smaller chunk of ice to break off and smack the orbiter to cause an equivalent amount of damager to a larger chunk of foam.
Foam does more damage than ice. Ice is dense and keeps its velocity high, which translates to a low velocity relative to the shuttle. Foam on the other hand is much less dense and slows down very quickly, translating to high velocities relative to the shuttle.
Remember, kinetic energy = 0.5 * mass * V^2. Velocity is what kills, not mass.
Private initiatives **Are** working at it. First step is LEO. From LEO, you are halfway to anywhere in the solar system. A great number of private ventures are working on LEO access.
... at a price noone wants to pay. I'm sorry, but then I'll stick with the original statement: the moon still has no economic or military value.
The delta-V to get to the moon is something on the order of 13 km/sec. Which sucks. The delta-V from the moon to earth reentry is somewhere around 3 km/sec. So if we send up some people and some processing machinery, returning stuff is easy compared to what it took to get it up there, because you've sent it out of the gravity well of earth. Returning it is as easy as getting it out of the moon's gravity well to LEO (2.74 km/sec) and giving it a little kick in the pants to re-enter. You could use (eventually) a rail gun, etc. It isn't something we can do tomorrow but in the next 20-40 years? Definitely.
Read 'The Moon is a Harsh Mistress' by Heinelien for an envisionment of a moon outpost for materials processing and return...
Who said a 'bed' had to be a box spring and a matress? My bed in college was a couch. In space a thin sleeping bag could work nicely. Larger, though, to accomodate the significant other :P
And an elliptical machine isnt gonna do you much good in space. You need an exercise machine that puts your body in compression to retain bone mass.
well yea if you are gonna run that ATI shit on Vista, its gonna bluescreen :P try nVidia next time ...
Suprised I haven't seen this pointed out yet, while everyone is so happy to see Vista not picked for the job, neither was Linux. So Microsoft wins anyways.
remember, on earth we look at homes by floorplans. In space, things can be utilized more efficiently because your ceiling is your floor is your wall. You can have a bed on the ceiling and free up 'floor' space. It's all relative. There need not be blank walls, unless there is a window with a view.
but they did for Malcolm in the Middle :)
Istanbul was Constantinople. There. I said it.
I'm not a fan of BPL (as an amateur radio/shortwave enthusiast) but according to what I've read the FCC had a backup device in case the test article failed, which Microsoft claims it did ... however the FCC did not even attempt to use the backup for analysis! And there have been rumors of pandering to the existing TV service (which won't exist in 2 years... or will it?) again, its a mess and sometimes things just look like the FCC are stacking the cards in profit's way instead of progress'. All I'm saying is give this coalition a fair shake, it doesn't look like the FCC did.
There is some conspiracy to the story as the prior two posters have pointed out. Also, notice that this particular article was cherry-picked as only mentioning Microsoft - the coalition also involves Google, Dell and others. If that were presented, then who would you be rooting for? (OMG! Its google! It must be teh good!)
'Morons' as you say make purchases off of targeted advertising ... I bet it is what Google 'aspires' to.
so me compiling them and emailing them to a friend is distribution and wrong, but me doing it locally and not sharing is not? Seems nitpicky to me ...
Yes, the Linux kernel allows end users to do whatever they want. But what you can't do, is to take the linux kernel, add your own closed source, and distribute the end product. This is what VMware are doing.
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You have seen the source then, I take it? No? Speculation, then.
And many kernel developers consider all closed source modules to be illegal
They can consider it whatever they want, but what about Ubuntu distributing with preinstalled (nVidia) closed-source drivers? Again, devs can whine and complain but I'm sure nVidia lawyers gave it a good thinking and Shuttleworth did too
You're perfectly able to look up the history behind a publisher, but without the "about the author" paragraph at the back of the book, it's easier to look up the identity of the person editing a wikipedia article.
A name is all you need. It is pretty easy to track down nonfiction authors in this day and age.
You compared Wikipedia to a library, I countered, and now you are backpedaling and saying it is better than "Oprah's list", "any major news source on TV".
The faulty administration system is just a defect in an otherwise flawless idea.
Thanks for the laugh.
Libraries are great because recognized experts in their respective fields write books in their respective fields and get published by book companies because - guess what - since they are recognized experts in their respective fields, their results can be, for the most part, trusted to be accurate and worthy of study.
...
Kinda sounds a bit more like Citizendium than Wikipedia to me
ah, but the laws of science be a harsh mistress -Bender
More or less. Make your code as free as possible. If you want to share it, why not maximize its sharing potential?
... who cares! Your contribution is still free. They chose their path, you chose yours.
And don't give me the crap about 'well company X will lock it up and make it proprietary with their changes'
musta been a beta or NT4, dont remember which. Either way it predated me heading off to college and that was in 2000 ...
these rumors waaay predate those articles, think before Y2K...
Win XP had a text-to-speech processor back when I was doing XP installs in high school, more than 8 years ago. (we fiddled with accessibility options a few times for special needs users) Who copies who now? :)
I guess, but it doesn't really correlate to what he is saying.
There was this guy, I forget his name, I think he flew a kite and got electrocuted, something about exchanging essential liberties for freedom ... OK, a stretch you might say, but any time you voluntarily give up freedoms that you have in order to 'gain security', you lose.
Your math sucks or you told it wrong. They paid 30 and were reimbursed $3. So they paid a total of $27. The bellboy received $2 and the hotelier $25.
money paid = money received.
27 = 25 + 2.
... PS2 clusters have been used for calculations by the NCSA. And supooosedly (insert grain of salt) Saddam Hussein was buying up PS2's to get around those pesky export restrictions to build a computing cluster for a weapons program.
But it makes sense. There are a lot of parallels between scientific and game/graphics computing, intense mathematical operations namely. So it would make sense that a processor optimized for gaming would be good for scientific research. Look at the folding at home project, for example.
rei, ayanami?
I count 60 licenses. Qmail is NOT OSI certified. Affero is not approved either, or at least I can't find a single reference claiming it to be. So out of the 60 OSI-certified licenses, GPL stands to be the worst, you agree with me?