Yes, I'm perfectly aware of *BSD and actually like PCBSD for desktop use but it has it's own set of shortcomings. I especially enjoy the self-contained apps which include the libraries and necessary files and configs in one place without interfering with other apps/libraries.
As for forks, there needs to be the standardized stem to put the fork on... or maybe I'm the only one who has a matching set, it has caused me to lose my freedom though.
So you consider going from a beta version to a final version a "bug fix?" There is simply no justification and I guarantee anyone who thinks it a smart idea has never administered 1,000+ computers. (I'm responsible for over 12,000) so please fill me in how that won't be a nightmare when half the people are still running 3 beta, some are on 3 final, some went back to 2 because 3 had bugs or rendering issues (as it does with iGoogle) and on and on.
Or new installs/images when you need to create an entire new image for a number of different model computers all because the final version shipped finally. Or when someone reinstalls with the original disc, and bam, back to beta. It is a headache of epic proportions.
You may think is minor and "simple", but it simply doesn't scale. All I can say is thank Jeebus not all 12,000 run Ubuntu 8.04
Sorry, but you've missed the point. You're not alone, most people stop listening after the "one distro" bit and form an opinion not based on what I am actually saying.
I never said there had to be only one distro, or just one app or tool PERIOD, I mean imagine if Windows/OSX/whatever shipped with 3 package managers, 6 text editors, 3 browsers, 5 window managers, and on and on. It would be an epic fail. They ship with one DEFAULT set. You are free to change them, get new ones, install add-ons but at first you are given ONE. And the initial set is made with a unified look, feel, and usability. That is important.
Create a true base distro with one unified (totally unified) look, feel, UI, etc. You could eliminate tons of extra libraries, and bloat (which if it were Windows people would cry foul over) and you could streamline the entire experience FAR beyond Ubuntu/RedHat/Suse because it is so streamlined and focused.
Now that you have established a foundation, go wild building upon it, changing it, adding to it, or totally going your own direction for some niche. The important point is that the other 99% of the folks have a perfect, streamlined system and experience and you still get your freedom and customization.
I will never understand why Linux zealots think that standardizing a base system will undermine everything. YET IT IS EXACTLY HOW THE KERNEL IS HANDLED! Imagine if the kernel were handled as the rest is? Failure.
I like Linux, I've been around this block thousands of times, I just hope it dies off the desktop and stays in my server room or people get their act together and realize how much more could be accomplished if we truly worked together with some direction.
I'm sorry but your line of reasoning just doesn't do it. It falls apart because you've essentially made my point. If the full final version of FF3 is coming so soon, then you put in either just FF2 with an update to 3 when available or you include both FF2 and 3 with 2 being default until 3 is ready.
LTS means LONG TERM and beta is not something you base long term goals and plans around.
Very simply. Just as a million cool and unique and visionary buildings are built from a fairly standard basic foundation, or the plethora of cars all sharing similar chassis and components.
Having a nice stable foundation actually makes things easier and better for developers (myself included). It has NOTHING to do with removing anyones freedom.
Also, once you have a great single distro and tools/apps THEN branch off and create your variants and niche products.
I've been a Linux guy since 1995 and as much as I hate to say it, I have given up. There needs to be a singular distro at the heart of it all which is steered by either Linus or a committee that focuses on one vision and goal. Chaos is great for creating a million cool bits, but not for organizing them into one unified, cohesive unit.
Let's finally get over the aversion to one main distro, or one of each tool and app. No one cares about choice when all it means is 40 buggy half-assed apps and no single solid one. It is a lot of wasted talent, time, and effort. With some direction and drive Linux could surpass anything out there.
Until people begin to wake up, I'll keep it for servers only. Oh, and I'd personally like to thank the genius who decided to go with a beta version of Firefox for a long-term support version of an OS... now THAT is how to FAIL.
I run a fairly large private university network and I have seen a big uptick in RIAA notices lately. Personally I think it has to do with them targeting end of semester/year for some reason.
However, the increased pressure on me to "do something" about it goes way up when higher ups start seeing 4-5x the amount of notices coming in. They panic because they are a private university and can't stand up to "the man" like these public ones do.
The bigger problem is that student IP's are NAT'ed so I get notices with our Internet facing NAT addresses, not a student IP or MAC, so there is no way to properly find the student responsible. It is a silly game being played with no winners, just a ton of headaches.
RIAA if you are listening, look into the concept of Network Address Translation, because it seems to me you don't get it. Better yet, offer me a software or hardware tool to place on my side, I'd be just as happy to gain back the wasted bandwidth as you would to extort these college kids over nothing.
Because maybe when I sit down after a long day at work dealing with immature asshats, I don't want to have them in my game too (literally).
Outside of that, it is not what I'd want presented to the masses who play a game I've spent the last few YEARS of my life working on with pride. Sure, it may be funny once or twice but after that it is juts lame and tired. Also, kids/parents aren't going to want it and they are a huge market for this game.
People are people and online or not you're always going to have morons. Mark my words, this will be an issue in the life of this game.
I have been awaiting Spore for quite a number of years, since I saw it demoed the first time in person, even though it really isn't a game I would normally enjoy. Since then I have had one massive concern which is already proving out... that I am going to be totally brought out of the experience with stupid/inappropriate user generated creatures.
Sure they can be marked offensive and eventually removed, but I will still have to play against boob-shaped creatures, and flying butts. Leave it to nerds to instantly go for the juvenile garbage. Even national gaming mags have pieces where they state they can't wait to make crap like that.
Ugh, I've lost my interest. Sorry EA this is going to be the downfall. Guaranteed.
Yeah, I mean NASA is flush with knowledge and in no need of competition or innovation... How many shuttles have been in danger due to chunks of heat foam breaking off and damaging the ship again? Yeah, there is no room for improvement at all or even another set of eyes and minds.
Fuck you! Plastic is way better!!1! Moron. You obviously have a small penis and lie to make friends!/Actually I really enjoyed your reply//Sadly most geeks would shank you over your opinion on Vi vs. Emacs, Ruby Vs. Ajax, Linux vs. anything, etc.///Honestly whatever tool does the job the best, easiest, and fastest is best. Amazingly Linux, Windows and Macs all factor into that for me.
I too work for a university (network specialist) and I was given the same choice, but ultimately I had to go with a Dell. The fact that no Mac laptop comes with a serial port is a huge problem when I administer hundreds of switches and routers which require a console port. I even went so far as to take Apple up on their offer to let us try out a Macbook Pro and a USB/Serial dongle and it was pure hell.
I like Apple more and more, but they just miss the boat on industry users. There wasn't one decent terminal app available. I currently use Secure CRT and it looks like the greatest piece of software ever written vs. the Mac offerings.
I understand different strokes for different folks, but I honestly WANTED to buy Macbooks... I just couldn't imagine daily life with one in my profession.
I fully understand your point... but they are counter to the "It Just Works" principle. hidden files, command lines, etc. aren't needed or even thought about when something "Just Works" and as you've said it does in OS X which is why they are buried. It takes a whole new mindset and outlook on computer use to get into OS X, one in which I'm still trying to get to, but it really is a system that is highly polished and works as it should with little to no user intervention.
No offense, and I'm not a fanboy or even a customer, but if you truly want "Just Works" then I'd guess you'd be using OS X right now. Increasingly I can't deny Apple's products.
ATI has been a failure in the graphics driver area for as long as I can remember, I swear they have 4000 hardware/engineer/designers and 2 guys and a chimp writing drivers. It's not that just the Linux drivers are bad, that is the best they can do...
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I don't write anymore... beyond my personal blog where I throw in book reccomendations every now and then. http://teasphere.wordpress.com/
I used to do freelance reviews for video games, movies, and books. Now, I just enjoy them without the added pain in the arse of writing the reviews. It was OK when I had the extra time and needed the xtra cash, but those das are over now.
If you're at a bookstore pick up that Zen and info sec book, by the time you read the forward you'll understand completely.
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His overall writing style and constant references to himself and how awesome he and his hand-picked teams are... Navy seals, FBI interrogators, cat herders, etc. and even in his foreword he speaks of all the people who dislike him and how he enjoys that... he has all the qualities of a grade A dickwad. The book is basically a rambling unfocused mess. I write book reviews of good books, I merely state the bad ones since I already wasted enough time reading it. I also read a ton of books (computer and non-computer) so my good list is much smaller than the bad one. I'm up to 68 books this year already, and we're not out of August, so that should give you some idea of the material I cover in a year.
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I picked this up a couple days ago on a whim of geekyness and read it, I was intrigued by the fact that a network book existed that wasn't A. a basic what is a network B. a product specific advertisement or C. exam cram for some lame cert. It has some good points, it also fails in a few. The VLAN stuff gets glossed over like a Christmas ham, and seriously important areas to real life missing. Overall it is written well, and in a decent conversational tone. I'd say it is an OK add to a network library but it isn't going to be a book you run to for any specific answer or tidbit.
Also, i picked up Zen and the art of security as well and it too would get a 3 1/2 star rating from me. Nothing too great, nothing real bad... except the author seems a little stuck on himself and a bit of a dickwad.
heh, well then you seem to have built a nice little picture for yourself there... I wouldn't want to go mess it up with reality. The reality is that just last month I spent 4 hours doing interviews for a few little magazines like Wired, Forbes, and a little website called Yahoo since I run one of the nations top college networks... and it is back to school time so you'll see them on news stands all around you. I'm such a dumbass loser who doesn't know nuttin'. You win teh Intertubes. Yay.
Everyone is an expert online, and people who love to reply line to line of posts have a special place in my heart... well, not really... they tend to be morons. I've wasted enough time on you, Please just add me as a foe and ignore all of my inane and "made up" bullshit. I'm nothing, I am not up to date on things, I barely make it through my days without curling up in a fetal position and crying in a corner.
OH, but one last little thing... you seem to have ducked the one point that showed just how stupid you are... the whole bit where you tried to claim that this is a common practice widely in use! You must have forgot... or maybe it is because you then took a look at H2O Networks website and realized they are sooo revolutionary they don't even mention this service on their 1990-ish website that is devoid of any info at all. Which was why I was "so uninformed." Please tell me where you became so enlightened since neither the article nor the H2O website offers any information at all? Again, I'll wait. Dude, you've painted yourself in a corner of stupid and continuing to fight or trying to cast dispersions on me is not going to cover over that little flub you made which showed your losing hand.
I'm going with FAIL for you too. Now go die in a fire. KTHXBAI.
I just love it when online nobodies try to twist and distort things to feel cool. I'm well aware of what they are doing, just not the specific installer's methods. Also, Einstein, it doesn't take much research or thought to realize that a repair or break in a pipe is going to be a huge problem. Oh, and YES, I am an expert in networks... I don't just claim to be. Oh, please link me up to where this is a "widely deployed" method... I'll wait.
Fiber is fairly small diameter, and high capacity so I couldn't see the need for more than a few strands to each building, especially if this is some stop-gap measure as it seems. I generally run 28 pairs at a time per large building, and maybe 6-8 for a small one. I'm guessing this is some brainstorm that some vendor suckered... I mean sold them on as a quick fix.
Many universities have not kept up with the times, and this is just one more illustration of that in action. We manage to have every square foot of greenspace and outdoor area covered with WPA2 802.11(a/b/g) wireless and full 100Mbps to every room and dorm with a 100Mbps OC3 Internet connection. All with fairly limited resources and a small staff... so there really are no excuses.
OK, I'll admit I haven't researched this "technology" but I do run one of the top 50 largest university networks in the U.S. and I can see nothing but problems with this one. First, when they snake one of these pipes how do they expect not to destroy the fiber? How about pipe repairs? Your telling me your going to be able to repair/replace a pipe without cutting the fiber or the pipe? (and cutting the new pipe to install it wouldn't strike me as a great option) This is just plain stupid.
On my network we utilize the steam tunnels and access tunnels which house plumbing to run the fiber, but never *in* the pipes... that just doesn't make sense. Sounds like a shitty mess to me, best of luck with that one.
Not to self, do not buy expensive hardware for a single title. Another note to self, buying "bleeding edge" hardware is the surest way to guarantee that things will change and your hardware will be soon outpaced by commodity "mainstream" hardware at half to a third of the price. Another note to self, until hardware is "mainstream" no developers are going to invest huge amounts of time or resources on it... thus the slight difference between DX9 and DX10. Yet another note to self, you have failed to understand history as it repeats itself over and over.
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Yes, I'm perfectly aware of *BSD and actually like PCBSD for desktop use but it has it's own set of shortcomings. I especially enjoy the self-contained apps which include the libraries and necessary files and configs in one place without interfering with other apps/libraries.
As for forks, there needs to be the standardized stem to put the fork on... or maybe I'm the only one who has a matching set, it has caused me to lose my freedom though.
So you consider going from a beta version to a final version a "bug fix?" There is simply no justification and I guarantee anyone who thinks it a smart idea has never administered 1,000+ computers. (I'm responsible for over 12,000) so please fill me in how that won't be a nightmare when half the people are still running 3 beta, some are on 3 final, some went back to 2 because 3 had bugs or rendering issues (as it does with iGoogle) and on and on.
Or new installs/images when you need to create an entire new image for a number of different model computers all because the final version shipped finally. Or when someone reinstalls with the original disc, and bam, back to beta. It is a headache of epic proportions.
You may think is minor and "simple", but it simply doesn't scale. All I can say is thank Jeebus not all 12,000 run Ubuntu 8.04
Sorry, but you've missed the point. You're not alone, most people stop listening after the "one distro" bit and form an opinion not based on what I am actually saying.
I never said there had to be only one distro, or just one app or tool PERIOD, I mean imagine if Windows/OSX/whatever shipped with 3 package managers, 6 text editors, 3 browsers, 5 window managers, and on and on. It would be an epic fail. They ship with one DEFAULT set. You are free to change them, get new ones, install add-ons but at first you are given ONE. And the initial set is made with a unified look, feel, and usability. That is important.
Create a true base distro with one unified (totally unified) look, feel, UI, etc. You could eliminate tons of extra libraries, and bloat (which if it were Windows people would cry foul over) and you could streamline the entire experience FAR beyond Ubuntu/RedHat/Suse because it is so streamlined and focused.
Now that you have established a foundation, go wild building upon it, changing it, adding to it, or totally going your own direction for some niche. The important point is that the other 99% of the folks have a perfect, streamlined system and experience and you still get your freedom and customization.
I will never understand why Linux zealots think that standardizing a base system will undermine everything. YET IT IS EXACTLY HOW THE KERNEL IS HANDLED! Imagine if the kernel were handled as the rest is? Failure.
I like Linux, I've been around this block thousands of times, I just hope it dies off the desktop and stays in my server room or people get their act together and realize how much more could be accomplished if we truly worked together with some direction.
I'm sorry but your line of reasoning just doesn't do it. It falls apart because you've essentially made my point. If the full final version of FF3 is coming so soon, then you put in either just FF2 with an update to 3 when available or you include both FF2 and 3 with 2 being default until 3 is ready.
LTS means LONG TERM and beta is not something you base long term goals and plans around.
Very simply. Just as a million cool and unique and visionary buildings are built from a fairly standard basic foundation, or the plethora of cars all sharing similar chassis and components.
Having a nice stable foundation actually makes things easier and better for developers (myself included). It has NOTHING to do with removing anyones freedom.
Also, once you have a great single distro and tools/apps THEN branch off and create your variants and niche products.
I've been a Linux guy since 1995 and as much as I hate to say it, I have given up. There needs to be a singular distro at the heart of it all which is steered by either Linus or a committee that focuses on one vision and goal. Chaos is great for creating a million cool bits, but not for organizing them into one unified, cohesive unit.
Let's finally get over the aversion to one main distro, or one of each tool and app. No one cares about choice when all it means is 40 buggy half-assed apps and no single solid one. It is a lot of wasted talent, time, and effort. With some direction and drive Linux could surpass anything out there.
Until people begin to wake up, I'll keep it for servers only. Oh, and I'd personally like to thank the genius who decided to go with a beta version of Firefox for a long-term support version of an OS... now THAT is how to FAIL.
I run a fairly large private university network and I have seen a big uptick in RIAA notices lately. Personally I think it has to do with them targeting end of semester/year for some reason.
However, the increased pressure on me to "do something" about it goes way up when higher ups start seeing 4-5x the amount of notices coming in. They panic because they are a private university and can't stand up to "the man" like these public ones do.
The bigger problem is that student IP's are NAT'ed so I get notices with our Internet facing NAT addresses, not a student IP or MAC, so there is no way to properly find the student responsible. It is a silly game being played with no winners, just a ton of headaches.
RIAA if you are listening, look into the concept of Network Address Translation, because it seems to me you don't get it. Better yet, offer me a software or hardware tool to place on my side, I'd be just as happy to gain back the wasted bandwidth as you would to extort these college kids over nothing.
Because maybe when I sit down after a long day at work dealing with immature asshats, I don't want to have them in my game too (literally).
Outside of that, it is not what I'd want presented to the masses who play a game I've spent the last few YEARS of my life working on with pride. Sure, it may be funny once or twice but after that it is juts lame and tired. Also, kids/parents aren't going to want it and they are a huge market for this game.
People are people and online or not you're always going to have morons. Mark my words, this will be an issue in the life of this game.
I have been awaiting Spore for quite a number of years, since I saw it demoed the first time in person, even though it really isn't a game I would normally enjoy. Since then I have had one massive concern which is already proving out... that I am going to be totally brought out of the experience with stupid/inappropriate user generated creatures.
Sure they can be marked offensive and eventually removed, but I will still have to play against boob-shaped creatures, and flying butts. Leave it to nerds to instantly go for the juvenile garbage. Even national gaming mags have pieces where they state they can't wait to make crap like that.
Ugh, I've lost my interest. Sorry EA this is going to be the downfall. Guaranteed.
Yeah, I mean NASA is flush with knowledge and in no need of competition or innovation... How many shuttles have been in danger due to chunks of heat foam breaking off and damaging the ship again? Yeah, there is no room for improvement at all or even another set of eyes and minds.
Fuck you! Plastic is way better!!1! Moron. You obviously have a small penis and lie to make friends! /Actually I really enjoyed your reply //Sadly most geeks would shank you over your opinion on Vi vs. Emacs, Ruby Vs. Ajax, Linux vs. anything, etc. ///Honestly whatever tool does the job the best, easiest, and fastest is best. Amazingly Linux, Windows and Macs all factor into that for me.
I too work for a university (network specialist) and I was given the same choice, but ultimately I had to go with a Dell. The fact that no Mac laptop comes with a serial port is a huge problem when I administer hundreds of switches and routers which require a console port. I even went so far as to take Apple up on their offer to let us try out a Macbook Pro and a USB/Serial dongle and it was pure hell.
I like Apple more and more, but they just miss the boat on industry users. There wasn't one decent terminal app available. I currently use Secure CRT and it looks like the greatest piece of software ever written vs. the Mac offerings.
I understand different strokes for different folks, but I honestly WANTED to buy Macbooks... I just couldn't imagine daily life with one in my profession.
I fully understand your point... but they are counter to the "It Just Works" principle. hidden files, command lines, etc. aren't needed or even thought about when something "Just Works" and as you've said it does in OS X which is why they are buried. It takes a whole new mindset and outlook on computer use to get into OS X, one in which I'm still trying to get to, but it really is a system that is highly polished and works as it should with little to no user intervention.
No offense, and I'm not a fanboy or even a customer, but if you truly want "Just Works" then I'd guess you'd be using OS X right now. Increasingly I can't deny Apple's products.
ATI has been a failure in the graphics driver area for as long as I can remember, I swear they have 4000 hardware/engineer/designers and 2 guys and a chimp writing drivers. It's not that just the Linux drivers are bad, that is the best they can do...
I don't write anymore... beyond my personal blog where I throw in book reccomendations every now and then. http://teasphere.wordpress.com/
I used to do freelance reviews for video games, movies, and books. Now, I just enjoy them without the added pain in the arse of writing the reviews. It was OK when I had the extra time and needed the xtra cash, but those das are over now.
If you're at a bookstore pick up that Zen and info sec book, by the time you read the forward you'll understand completely.
His overall writing style and constant references to himself and how awesome he and his hand-picked teams are... Navy seals, FBI interrogators, cat herders, etc. and even in his foreword he speaks of all the people who dislike him and how he enjoys that... he has all the qualities of a grade A dickwad. The book is basically a rambling unfocused mess. I write book reviews of good books, I merely state the bad ones since I already wasted enough time reading it. I also read a ton of books (computer and non-computer) so my good list is much smaller than the bad one. I'm up to 68 books this year already, and we're not out of August, so that should give you some idea of the material I cover in a year.
I picked this up a couple days ago on a whim of geekyness and read it, I was intrigued by the fact that a network book existed that wasn't A. a basic what is a network B. a product specific advertisement or C. exam cram for some lame cert. It has some good points, it also fails in a few. The VLAN stuff gets glossed over like a Christmas ham, and seriously important areas to real life missing. Overall it is written well, and in a decent conversational tone. I'd say it is an OK add to a network library but it isn't going to be a book you run to for any specific answer or tidbit.
Also, i picked up Zen and the art of security as well and it too would get a 3 1/2 star rating from me. Nothing too great, nothing real bad... except the author seems a little stuck on himself and a bit of a dickwad.
OK, a few days or even a week... but a month and a half on a piece that was covered everywhere is a bit of a stretch.
heh, well then you seem to have built a nice little picture for yourself there... I wouldn't want to go mess it up with reality. The reality is that just last month I spent 4 hours doing interviews for a few little magazines like Wired, Forbes, and a little website called Yahoo since I run one of the nations top college networks... and it is back to school time so you'll see them on news stands all around you. I'm such a dumbass loser who doesn't know nuttin'. You win teh Intertubes. Yay.
Everyone is an expert online, and people who love to reply line to line of posts have a special place in my heart... well, not really... they tend to be morons. I've wasted enough time on you, Please just add me as a foe and ignore all of my inane and "made up" bullshit. I'm nothing, I am not up to date on things, I barely make it through my days without curling up in a fetal position and crying in a corner.
OH, but one last little thing... you seem to have ducked the one point that showed just how stupid you are... the whole bit where you tried to claim that this is a common practice widely in use! You must have forgot... or maybe it is because you then took a look at H2O Networks website and realized they are sooo revolutionary they don't even mention this service on their 1990-ish website that is devoid of any info at all. Which was why I was "so uninformed." Please tell me where you became so enlightened since neither the article nor the H2O website offers any information at all? Again, I'll wait. Dude, you've painted yourself in a corner of stupid and continuing to fight or trying to cast dispersions on me is not going to cover over that little flub you made which showed your losing hand.
I'm going with FAIL for you too. Now go die in a fire. KTHXBAI.
I just love it when online nobodies try to twist and distort things to feel cool. I'm well aware of what they are doing, just not the specific installer's methods. Also, Einstein, it doesn't take much research or thought to realize that a repair or break in a pipe is going to be a huge problem. Oh, and YES, I am an expert in networks... I don't just claim to be. Oh, please link me up to where this is a "widely deployed" method... I'll wait.
Fiber is fairly small diameter, and high capacity so I couldn't see the need for more than a few strands to each building, especially if this is some stop-gap measure as it seems. I generally run 28 pairs at a time per large building, and maybe 6-8 for a small one. I'm guessing this is some brainstorm that some vendor suckered... I mean sold them on as a quick fix.
Many universities have not kept up with the times, and this is just one more illustration of that in action. We manage to have every square foot of greenspace and outdoor area covered with WPA2 802.11(a/b/g) wireless and full 100Mbps to every room and dorm with a 100Mbps OC3 Internet connection. All with fairly limited resources and a small staff... so there really are no excuses.
OK, I'll admit I haven't researched this "technology" but I do run one of the top 50 largest university networks in the U.S. and I can see nothing but problems with this one. First, when they snake one of these pipes how do they expect not to destroy the fiber? How about pipe repairs? Your telling me your going to be able to repair/replace a pipe without cutting the fiber or the pipe? (and cutting the new pipe to install it wouldn't strike me as a great option) This is just plain stupid.
On my network we utilize the steam tunnels and access tunnels which house plumbing to run the fiber, but never *in* the pipes... that just doesn't make sense. Sounds like a shitty mess to me, best of luck with that one.
FAIL.
Not to self, do not buy expensive hardware for a single title. Another note to self, buying "bleeding edge" hardware is the surest way to guarantee that things will change and your hardware will be soon outpaced by commodity "mainstream" hardware at half to a third of the price. Another note to self, until hardware is "mainstream" no developers are going to invest huge amounts of time or resources on it... thus the slight difference between DX9 and DX10. Yet another note to self, you have failed to understand history as it repeats itself over and over.