If you've got real work to do now get yourself a G4 and get on with it. Don't wait for Corel (and their mediocre content creation software). Get a Mac - the machine that the Adobe products are written for.
I've been thinking about this a lot lately - with the amount of video and photos (not to mention copies of the old family albums) I'll need a huge array and a (DLT or two). I think it would be worth it though if I can get the money to do it ($$$). Tear this idea apart guys....
I'm a mech. engr. major and we didn't get into any history either. Even in a town like Ottawa, with a very historic canal system running through it (The Rideau Canal) there was no mention or discussion about its history or the man who "built" it (Colonel By).
It's a shame really, I would have really enjoyed something like this as an elective when I did my degree - would be a lot better than the current practice (randomly picking an arts elective to fill the free elective).
They shouldn't drop the ball - last I heard after talking to my buddy at QNX over beers - it was mostly done. Of course the last 5% takes 95% of the effort.
r@m
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I agree with the spirit of what you are saying. I'm an advocate of anything un-MS like until MS releases their own Linux distro (just a matter of time now).
I'm just tired of the Amiga name been run up the flag pole at all the neat tech companies and then Amiga turning 180 degrees and doing something else.
I'm not anti-non-MS, I'm anti-Amiga waffling I guess. My comments were directed at Amiga specifically. At this point I don't care until I see something real that proves they can deliver at least something.
I guess I'm still bitter about the QNX thing - it made so much sense...
Comparing the other windowing systems (Win/GDI, Mac, etc.) is like comparing a PeeCee to a UNIX workstation or a toy yard tractor to a back hoe.
X makes graphical client-server work. Other models that I've seen vary from marginal (WinFrame) to pretty schnazzy (QNX-Neutrino).
WinNT, etc. is not even in the game when it comes to this aspect. If I had a nickel for every time I had to run into the server room at a client site to do something at the console on an NT host I'd be as rich as Billy Gee. With a real OS: gee, just telnet in and/or export your display. It ain't rocket science.
Comparing GUIs, well that is just look and feel. Windows sucks, imnsho. Great way to rip neat features from other GUIs (notably NeXT) and then screw up the implementation. It's one fugly ucker. OS/2 WPS was butt ugly in a Motif kind of way (ugh!) but at least it did the object oriented desktop environment properly.
The Mac OS is very refined for look and feel - so much so that I use the E-Mac GTK/E-themes on my personal machines.
BeOs is cute looking. Grates on my nerves after a little while, kind of like Rasterman's funky E themes. Looks pretty but functional?
I was wondering if the Amiga group had any business sense or if they are just playing around and using up grants/investor's money.
To dump QNX and use Linux is a very stupid move, imnsho.
QNX does RT. Does it properly. It was designed with RT in mind from the ground up. Multimedia without proper RT is a bad thing. Look at how much hardware you have to throw at the existing OS's to do MM properly.
QNX is small and complete.
Changing to Linux at this point strikes of a under-priveldged sibling calling out "I want a blue one too!" even if there is a perfectly good red one sitting in their lap.
Re: free software versus payware. Do you really think that Amiga will be free? QNX is _heavily_ discounted based on projected number of units sold - the cost of using QNX vs Linux is negligible - especially when you factor in R&D costs. At least with QNX there is someone being paid to write driver X on a schedule as opposed to having some people on the 'net coding it up in their free moments.
Don't get me wrong, I love Linux and use it exclusively on my personal machines (some have never even seen a Windows disk(ette)).
For Amiga to be changing the underlying substructure at this point sounds like a nail in the coffin. Maybe the final one?
Most "journalists" seem to miss the central theme about Linux: there is no splintering to be done - Linux is so splintered already who would notice the difference?
I truly believe that 90% of all industry journalists out there that write about Linux, FreeBSD, OpenSource, et al have no concept of what these technologies are about, where they came from, and what was the reason why they occured in the first place.
But that's OK. I fear the day that any of the free OSes make the transition to mainstream. Things are just peachy the way they are.
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Holy crap!
If you've got real work to do now get yourself a G4 and get on with it. Don't wait for Corel (and their mediocre content creation software). Get a Mac - the machine that the Adobe products are written for.
Sheesh!
Some people's kids...
Thank dog for themes and different window managers - that's one fugly looking interface.
r@m
www.vmware.com
It works, is stable, runs everything.
Hmmm, I got a copy - no big deal. Get a friend going to a local college/university to buy it for you.
Btw, it works very well. I'm in the middle of designing a truck frame (in 3D) and haven't found any weirdness relative to the commercial versions.
Don't know.
It doesn't run on a TRS-80 or a Vic 20 either...
The hand built swamp buggy will take you more places though...
Way to obfuscate the shared line issue...among other points.
Security? If you don't know what you're doing get a Mac.
I've had very good success capture from a Hi-8 camera to this card to Mpeg.
Just another datapoint on the hardware side.
I've been thinking about this a lot lately - with the amount of video and photos (not to mention copies of the old family albums) I'll need a huge array and a (DLT or two). I think it would be worth it though if I can get the money to do it ($$$). Tear this idea apart guys....
...is emminent...at least that's what we've been told.
Not sure if it will be the next "point" release or 4.0
http://www.bmc.com
...go to themes.org and make you Linux box look like one.
That's as close as you're going to get!
...he pulled the plug on QNX and now there isn't a snowballs chance in hell of making the deliverables any time soon.
QA? What's that?
Transmeta? Don't hold your breath - VC sponsored wankfest with no product to be ever delivered.
Sco who?
That's the dumbest thing I've read today.
I don't like it one bit!
Paper? Printed? Pashaw!
LDP. Get the LDP on a nicely integrated, professional looking website.
Thats where its at.
Will IDG "donate" their printing presses (contracted out facilities)? I don't think so.
Yoda 96% - openness
Tarkin 46% - conscientious
Hoth Ice Monster (Wampas) 15% - extraversion
Darth Vader 44% - agreeableness
Chewbacca 60% - neuroticism
Hmmm... Not sure I like this - none of these guys are really all that "nice".
Oh yeah, I'm not really that "nice" either.
;)
I don't think it is the age of the field.
I'm a mech. engr. major and we didn't get into any history either. Even in a town like Ottawa, with a very historic canal system running through it (The Rideau Canal) there was no mention or discussion about its history or the man who "built" it (Colonel By).
It's a shame really, I would have really enjoyed something like this as an elective when I did my degree - would be a lot better than the current practice (randomly picking an arts elective to fill the free elective).
Hey, what's the deal with all the Captain OKs in the corral today?
No wonder they don't know who or what the article was about. There wasn't an OK button to click on so they are lost.
Some people's kids...
Hey kid, here's a quarter.
Go buy yourself a real computer.
I expect to see it settle back down between $15-25 depending what the hype is when it gets back down there.
If you've got stock now - SELL!!!
r@m
They shouldn't drop the ball - last I heard after talking to my buddy at QNX over beers - it was mostly done. Of course the last 5% takes 95% of the effort.
r@m
I agree with the spirit of what you are saying. I'm an advocate of anything un-MS like until MS releases their own Linux distro (just a matter of time now).
I'm just tired of the Amiga name been run up the flag pole at all the neat tech companies and then Amiga turning 180 degrees and doing something else.
I'm not anti-non-MS, I'm anti-Amiga waffling I guess. My comments were directed at Amiga specifically. At this point I don't care until I see something real that proves they can deliver at least something.
I guess I'm still bitter about the QNX thing - it made so much sense...
Eh, more vapour.
They sure are good at blowing smoke.
Rob - don't post anymore Amiga BS until we see something in shrink wrap!
Comparing the other windowing systems (Win/GDI, Mac, etc.) is like comparing a PeeCee to a UNIX workstation or a toy yard tractor to a back hoe.
X makes graphical client-server work. Other models that I've seen vary from marginal (WinFrame) to pretty schnazzy (QNX-Neutrino).
WinNT, etc. is not even in the game when it comes to this aspect. If I had a nickel for every time I had to run into the server room at a client site to do something at the console on an NT host I'd be as rich as Billy Gee. With a real OS: gee, just telnet in and/or export your display. It ain't rocket science.
Comparing GUIs, well that is just look and feel. Windows sucks, imnsho. Great way to rip neat features from other GUIs (notably NeXT) and then screw up the implementation. It's one fugly ucker. OS/2 WPS was butt ugly in a Motif kind of way (ugh!) but at least it did the object oriented desktop environment properly.
The Mac OS is very refined for look and feel - so much so that I use the E-Mac GTK/E-themes on my personal machines.
BeOs is cute looking. Grates on my nerves after a little while, kind of like Rasterman's funky E themes. Looks pretty but functional?
I was wondering if the Amiga group had any business sense or if they are just playing around and using up grants/investor's money.
To dump QNX and use Linux is a very stupid move, imnsho.
QNX does RT. Does it properly. It was designed with RT in mind from the ground up. Multimedia without proper RT is a bad thing. Look at how much hardware you have to throw at the existing OS's to do MM properly.
QNX is small and complete.
Changing to Linux at this point strikes of a under-priveldged sibling calling out "I want a blue one too!" even if there is a perfectly good red one sitting in their lap.
Re: free software versus payware. Do you really think that Amiga will be free? QNX is _heavily_ discounted based on projected number of units sold - the cost of using QNX vs Linux is negligible - especially when you factor in R&D costs. At least with QNX there is someone being paid to write driver X on a schedule as opposed to having some people on the 'net coding it up in their free moments.
Don't get me wrong, I love Linux and use it exclusively on my personal machines (some have never even seen a Windows disk(ette)).
For Amiga to be changing the underlying substructure at this point sounds like a nail in the coffin. Maybe the final one?
Indeed!
Most "journalists" seem to miss the central theme about Linux: there is no splintering to be done - Linux is so splintered already who would notice the difference?
I truly believe that 90% of all industry journalists out there that write about Linux, FreeBSD, OpenSource, et al have no concept of what these technologies are about, where they came from, and what was the reason why they occured in the first place.
But that's OK. I fear the day that any of the free OSes make the transition to mainstream. Things are just peachy the way they are.