"Honestly, I'm really not getting this. It just sounds like they created a pile of tools that lets "cloud" administrators be supremely lazy. What am I missing here?"
Only three things: 1) Most people are not really so good about their trade. 2) Youngster moreso if only because they still had no time to become any wiser but, youngsters being youngsters, still they think they know it all. 3) Due to IT advancements a lot of ignorant but otherwise full of energy youngsters can now be very vocal about how their elders knew nothing but luckily they now can do the proper thing (and reinventing all the -broken, wheels in the process).
"No dependency management or fooling around packages that require conflicting library versions, possibly near-instant "installation" (depending on if they're distributing Dockerfile-equivalents* or containers directly). Sounds good to me"
Congratulations. You have discovered static linking. Welcome to the fifties.
Now, in less than ten years you will find the problems with your approach and will also reinvent dynamic linking and I'll gladly welcome you to the sixties.
"If four members of Seal team 6 decide to save a few bucks, risking the chance that the driver is going to attack the four of them, then they should have that choice."
Even those four members of Seal team 6 are exposed for the taximan to give them the "tourist sightseeing" which makes a 20 buck trip into a 200 one.
Given that unregulating this industry would open to obvious and massive fraud and risk it is only intelligent to step before that happens both to protect the consumer *and* the industry itself, since an unreliable and risky taxi service would make into a taxi service less people is willing to use.
"Frankly, this looks to me like a blatant attempt by the standard taxi companies to keep competition out of the market"
Going against Uber certainly is *also* an attempt from the current 'statu quo' to avoid new incumbents entering the market. This part we all (and mainly the legislator) must disregard, but this shouldn't have to be an invitation to throw away the baby with the bathwater. There are very good reasons for taxi services to be regulated.
"Apropos of nothing, I note that you wouldn't use such a service, so you're suggesting a law that wouldn't affect your choices"
You can't really be so naive, can you? Of course a race to the bottom, as Uber in its current incarnation is, does affect all incumbents, including customers that wouldn't use the new option out of their will.
"The idea that we need to regulate me paying one person to transport me from one spot to another is, frankly, ridiculous."
No, it certainly isn't.
You are putting yourself on a one or two tons machine able to trump itself to about 100MPH maybe in a environment you don't know, under control of an unknown guy with a vested while desperate interest in cutting corners and make a profit out of somebody who probably won't see again in his whole life.
_Not_ having regulations on that kind of activity is what looks ridiculous.
"The legacy taxis are just utterly terrible services on so many levels. About the only thing they're useful is for trips between the downtown hotels and the airport. That's fine for tourists; but if you actually live here, taxi's are all but useless [...] Uber, Lyft, and Sidecar show up on time where you need them, don't bitch about trips to or from the avenues, don't play the "the credit card machine is broken, cash only" game, and don't stink of smoke, pee, or vomit. None of that is true of taxis."
Hummm... this is about *Spanish* taxis. I know them fairly well and you can bet no thing you said is of application here.
"The individual people and private companies are still allowed to dislike him"
Not to talk about individuals -though is quite funny that this very same people is not legally allowed to dislike them over grounds of religion or race, but companies, on one hand can't like or dislike anyone and, on the other, they are government granted entities and, as you say, these individuals are clear with the government which means no other penalites should be allowed by any other legal -not personal, entities.
"he was, by all appearances, genuinely guilty of at least one violent crime"
OK. So he was genuinely guilty of at least one violent crime, so what? He already paid what our society deemed a proper penalty and now is in the clear. Or he should be, shouldn't he?
"They didn't need to be connected to the internet. They were connected to the real world that students lived in, by means of floppy diskettes from home."
I have to say that despite Tanenbaumb's on bandwidth and stationwagons, your latency working on diskettes makes comparing your times with current ones a question of apples to oranges.
"Gees, talking about lame, only fifty organisations in then years, that's pretty lame"
And still didn't tell us what the sofistication level of those attacks was.
Given standard security practices I wouldn't be surprised if by "attack" they meant mounting an Internet-exposed SMB resource and leaving there a virus within a file named "kardashians-bottom-photos-pretty-please-dont-open.exe"
"Organized Labor always wants training and work studies to be completed and approved before anything gets rolled out."
You prefer your children to be taught by untrained people using untested methods?
"I've dealt with this working with Airlines and trust me, you don't change work rules or add tools to the environment without Union buy-in. "
In other words, you don't get to change work rules on heavier-that-air flying machines without buy-in from those that operate said machines into the air? Nonsense, I claim, great nonsense!
"You've now given 10s of thousands of tablets to kids so they can watch youporn all day. Congratulations LA Unified School District."
And then again, how and why was this a great idea?
"if it is SAVED, and something "goes to trial" or something the news media will chop, splice it to fit their agenda, as well as the police, for their agenda."
Make such a behaviour illegal and support the law with technical means (checksuming the footage).
"Individual hardware is the cheap part--although it does also need to be pretty goddamn ruggedized."
"goddamn" ruggerized? Why? I understand they can't be too cheap that they break every week but I don't see why they should be much more ruggerized than the cop's shirt.
"Departments need new infrastructure: Servers, docking stations, stuff like that."
Yes, that's true.
"It's not as easy as plug it in with USB and drag and drop your files"
Why not? In fact, it should be that easy or you risk too high failure rates -and if that's the case, the whole program gets bastardized since it would be just too easy to claim "something went wrong, that's why I can produce the footage of that nasty shotting."
You just need strong on-chip encription tied to the cop's camera and then everything else should be drag-n-drop.
"you also need to teach them policy, really drill it in there. Call it four hours"
Wrong again. Here goes all instruction cops need:
This camera is to be attached to this pin (pointing to a pin on a tab on the shirt). It has to be attached at all times when on service. Press the Big-Red-Button once and the camera is working. Press the Big-Green-Button once and the camera is not working. The camera should always be working from the moment you go out the police station to the moment you come back in except when you are in the WC. Failing to follow this rule will result in immediate termination.
"This said, going cashless, if this happens, will probably be one of the strongest blows to the back-market economy. Suppressing large US banknotes would also make drug and weapons traficking a bit harder."
So what? Paper money has another very desirable property that electronic money lacks of: anonymity.
It's nobody business where and how I expend my money. Full stop.
They love them because credit card money is "magic" money.
Not that fiduciary money is any more real in a strict sense, but while fiduciary money can only be created by gubernamental bodies, credit card money can be created by any bank.
Using your credit card reduces the declared cash reserve needs for banks as much as 10 to 1.
Apples to apples regarding the parent post's argument.
He told you can't compare Germany to USA because Germany is much smaller.
I replied that the whole EU is not shorter than USA and all their highways are built to the same standard, so comparing EU highways to USA highways should be a fair comparation, and still EU highways seem to be better than those from USA: no less than two 3.5m wide lanes each way, about 1000 meter radius on curves, gradients not higher than 4%, intersections always at different levels, etc.
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"Honestly, I'm really not getting this. It just sounds like they created a pile of tools that lets "cloud" administrators be supremely lazy. What am I missing here?"
Only three things:
1) Most people are not really so good about their trade.
2) Youngster moreso if only because they still had no time to become any wiser but, youngsters being youngsters, still they think they know it all.
3) Due to IT advancements a lot of ignorant but otherwise full of energy youngsters can now be very vocal about how their elders knew nothing but luckily they now can do the proper thing (and reinventing all the -broken, wheels in the process).
"No dependency management or fooling around packages that require conflicting library versions, possibly near-instant "installation" (depending on if they're distributing Dockerfile-equivalents* or containers directly). Sounds good to me"
Congratulations. You have discovered static linking. Welcome to the fifties.
Now, in less than ten years you will find the problems with your approach and will also reinvent dynamic linking and I'll gladly welcome you to the sixties.
"Starting early on how to think abstractly and to generalize with good interfaces is key"
And that's what maths is all about, my friend.
"There are a number of tools that give non-root users root access."
Yes. And all of them restort to already having root-level access so it is still a privilege scalation issue.
"Long term, what Linux really should have is the ability to have either signed executables or a manifest list that can whitelist or blacklist."
You are not too savvy about what Linux can and can't do, right?
"If four members of Seal team 6 decide to save a few bucks, risking the chance that the driver is going to attack the four of them, then they should have that choice."
Even those four members of Seal team 6 are exposed for the taximan to give them the "tourist sightseeing" which makes a 20 buck trip into a 200 one.
Given that unregulating this industry would open to obvious and massive fraud and risk it is only intelligent to step before that happens both to protect the consumer *and* the industry itself, since an unreliable and risky taxi service would make into a taxi service less people is willing to use.
"Frankly, this looks to me like a blatant attempt by the standard taxi companies to keep competition out of the market"
Going against Uber certainly is *also* an attempt from the current 'statu quo' to avoid new incumbents entering the market. This part we all (and mainly the legislator) must disregard, but this shouldn't have to be an invitation to throw away the baby with the bathwater. There are very good reasons for taxi services to be regulated.
"Apropos of nothing, I note that you wouldn't use such a service, so you're suggesting a law that wouldn't affect your choices"
You can't really be so naive, can you? Of course a race to the bottom, as Uber in its current incarnation is, does affect all incumbents, including customers that wouldn't use the new option out of their will.
"The idea that we need to regulate me paying one person to transport me from one spot to another is, frankly, ridiculous."
No, it certainly isn't.
You are putting yourself on a one or two tons machine able to trump itself to about 100MPH maybe in a environment you don't know, under control of an unknown guy with a vested while desperate interest in cutting corners and make a profit out of somebody who probably won't see again in his whole life.
_Not_ having regulations on that kind of activity is what looks ridiculous.
"The legacy taxis are just utterly terrible services on so many levels. About the only thing they're useful is for trips between the downtown hotels and the airport. That's fine for tourists; but if you actually live here, taxi's are all but useless [...] Uber, Lyft, and Sidecar show up on time where you need them, don't bitch about trips to or from the avenues, don't play the "the credit card machine is broken, cash only" game, and don't stink of smoke, pee, or vomit. None of that is true of taxis."
Hummm... this is about *Spanish* taxis. I know them fairly well and you can bet no thing you said is of application here.
"The individual people and private companies are still allowed to dislike him"
Not to talk about individuals -though is quite funny that this very same people is not legally allowed to dislike them over grounds of religion or race, but companies, on one hand can't like or dislike anyone and, on the other, they are government granted entities and, as you say, these individuals are clear with the government which means no other penalites should be allowed by any other legal -not personal, entities.
"They cannot make you sign, and if you're getting let go anyway, they can do nothing."
Of course they can: your severage package. Do you want a decent amount or peanuts? Then please sign on the dotted line.
"in a free country, such as ours, you can't force people to hire and/or work with someone they are afraid of either..."
Unless, of course, you are afraid of him because you consider him to be a religious nut or you find his skin's colour to be funny.
Why then, not using those same standards for the case of a man that already paid his debt to society for his past crimes?
"he was, by all appearances, genuinely guilty of at least one violent crime"
OK. So he was genuinely guilty of at least one violent crime, so what? He already paid what our society deemed a proper penalty and now is in the clear. Or he should be, shouldn't he?
"They didn't need to be connected to the internet. They were connected to the real world that students lived in, by means of floppy diskettes from home."
I have to say that despite Tanenbaumb's on bandwidth and stationwagons, your latency working on diskettes makes comparing your times with current ones a question of apples to oranges.
"Bullshit, Iran is not an ally"
And still Reagan's administration provided weapons to them.
"Gees, talking about lame, only fifty organisations in then years, that's pretty lame"
And still didn't tell us what the sofistication level of those attacks was.
Given standard security practices I wouldn't be surprised if by "attack" they meant mounting an Internet-exposed SMB resource and leaving there a virus within a file named "kardashians-bottom-photos-pretty-please-dont-open.exe"
"It was a great idea"
Why and how?
"Organized Labor always wants training and work studies to be completed and approved before anything gets rolled out."
You prefer your children to be taught by untrained people using untested methods?
"I've dealt with this working with Airlines and trust me, you don't change work rules or add tools to the environment without Union buy-in. "
In other words, you don't get to change work rules on heavier-that-air flying machines without buy-in from those that operate said machines into the air? Nonsense, I claim, great nonsense!
"You've now given 10s of thousands of tablets to kids so they can watch youporn all day. Congratulations LA Unified School District."
And then again, how and why was this a great idea?
"When we learned about computers in school it was not on locked down, corporate monitored, carefully controlled computers. "
Were they conected to the Internet?
"The real lesson these days is how to be a good little slave to your masters."
That's been the case since the XVIII century.
"if it is SAVED, and something "goes to trial" or something the news media will chop, splice it to fit their agenda, as well as the police, for their agenda."
Make such a behaviour illegal and support the law with technical means (checksuming the footage).
"Individual hardware is the cheap part--although it does also need to be pretty goddamn ruggedized."
"goddamn" ruggerized? Why? I understand they can't be too cheap that they break every week but I don't see why they should be much more ruggerized than the cop's shirt.
"Departments need new infrastructure: Servers, docking stations, stuff like that."
Yes, that's true.
"It's not as easy as plug it in with USB and drag and drop your files"
Why not? In fact, it should be that easy or you risk too high failure rates -and if that's the case, the whole program gets bastardized since it would be just too easy to claim "something went wrong, that's why I can produce the footage of that nasty shotting."
You just need strong on-chip encription tied to the cop's camera and then everything else should be drag-n-drop.
"you also need to teach them policy, really drill it in there. Call it four hours"
Wrong again. Here goes all instruction cops need:
This camera is to be attached to this pin (pointing to a pin on a tab on the shirt). It has to be attached at all times when on service. Press the Big-Red-Button once and the camera is working. Press the Big-Green-Button once and the camera is not working. The camera should always be working from the moment you go out the police station to the moment you come back in except when you are in the WC. Failing to follow this rule will result in immediate termination.
End of instruction.
"it just seems another step to pervasive surveillance."
How is it?
Those cameras won't save anything the cop is not already seeing but it will save the cops in action.
Yes this is pervasive surveillance... pointed towards police, not the citizen. I see that to be a good thing.
Wooosssh!
Of course cool.
They couldn't touch it at its usual temperature!
"If I am in a car accident, I do not want the emergency responders wondering what my blood type is"
They test it on the spot, anyway.
"or if I can pay"
More civilized countries have socialized health care systems so they don't need to ask.
"This is a solution looking for a problem."
This is 100% true. Specially once you figure the unestated: we won't carry wallets... because all of us will own an iDevice, no competitors allowed.
"This said, going cashless, if this happens, will probably be one of the strongest blows to the back-market economy. Suppressing large US banknotes would also make drug and weapons traficking a bit harder."
So what? Paper money has another very desirable property that electronic money lacks of: anonymity.
It's nobody business where and how I expend my money. Full stop.
"The credit card company loves people like you"
But not for the reasons you think.
They love them because credit card money is "magic" money.
Not that fiduciary money is any more real in a strict sense, but while fiduciary money can only be created by gubernamental bodies, credit card money can be created by any bank.
Using your credit card reduces the declared cash reserve needs for banks as much as 10 to 1.
Apples to apples regarding the parent post's argument.
He told you can't compare Germany to USA because Germany is much smaller.
I replied that the whole EU is not shorter than USA and all their highways are built to the same standard, so comparing EU highways to USA highways should be a fair comparation, and still EU highways seem to be better than those from USA: no less than two 3.5m wide lanes each way, about 1000 meter radius on curves, gradients not higher than 4%, intersections always at different levels, etc.
See a graphic of this network: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F...