In the first release of this paper, we said "Vista is still 32-bit" â" and this was true when we wrote it. Now, in December 2006, there is, in fact, an x86_64 build on the Vista CD-ROM now shipping. But it doesn't actually work â" even Microsoft's own preferred development tools don't run on it. It is unclear how much of this is due to problems specific to the 64-bit port versus how much of it is generic to Vista. Nor does that distinction matter much; the point is, the codebase Microsoft is counting on to carry it into the 64-bit world has serious problems.
It's really outdated badly. I have been using 64bit Windows from a long time at both home and work with nary a problem. Of course, I don't have an ancient printer with no 64bit drivers. But that's a problem with other OSes too. Linux/BSD might have it better coz they can recompile the OSS drivers into 64bit.
1. In any story about Vista/Windows 7, extolling XP/2K/98/98SE/95/DOS as the best OS ever gives you moderator love. Mentioning that you run Vista will either get you modded down or ignored.
2. In a story about Macs, mentioning that you use any form of Windows will take you to karma hell, praising OS X will get you modded up, mentioning Linux will affect your karma based on your luck of draw moderators depending on which kind of fanboy they are. In any case, you will get a ton of long highly modded up replies about how OS X is better
3. In a story about Linux, mentioning that you use any form of Windows will take you to karma hell, praising Linux will get you modded up, mentioning OS X will affect your karma based on your luck of draw moderators depending on which kind of fanboy they are. In any case, you will get a ton of long highly modded up replies about how Linux is better.
4. In any other story, mentioning that you use any form of Windows will take you to karma hell, and praising Linux, OS X, BSD, Plan 9, OS/2, BeOS etc. will take you to karma heaven.
Anyone wanna make a graphical represenation of the above to make it easier to understanding on a glance?
So, Vista/Windows 7 stories are the only opportunity for Windows users to come out of the woodwork and not pretend they like other OSes. It's amazing how many of them there are actually are around these parts.
Now, if they're only released a 64 bit for OEM (forcing new computers to have support), that could help the switch.
Then we would have a headline on Slashdot shouting "MS forces 64bit down the throats of people" and stories about how poor grandmas are unable to run their 32bit drivers for knitting.
WinFS was dropped from Vista like 4 years ago and the was was integrated into SQL Server. And it was never talked about again by MS. Where have you been?
The new system will come with Windows 7. Adding more cores and threads will make Windows 7 seem faster than a slower system on XP. Same with cheap RAM and disks. Windows 7 is supposed to be running really well on netbooks.
That reasoning sounds like bull to me. So, a software company should not release new advanced versions so that it will stagnate and competitors will catch up? Also, Vista took 5 years to finish.
When they've reached the unique position of having near 100% market penetration in their two primary markets, the only thing they can do to keep the serious money coming in is provide upgrades that people are willing to pay for, and Vista was so far off-target that substantial chunks of the market actively chose to go for Windows XP instead. If Windows 7 is another cock-up on that scale, then we could realistically be looking at the beginning of the end for Microsoft.
Do people pay in Monopoly plastic money for XP which MS cannot use and hence will kill it?
And, along the way, I've actually got Vista growing on me. The only thing I really don't like about it is that the start bar doesn't have "run" on it the way XP does, but other than that, Vista is better.
You can add it back in the start menu preferences. The Run option is better than the search bar sometimes because it has history in it and the search bar doesn't complete system.exes (like mstsc), just program names.
It was a bug that was introduced in a overzealous attempt to give multimedia playback priority over network download speeds. It was promptly fixed. SP1 included that fix, it had nothing to do with DRM whatsoever and that bug doesn't even exist now if you installed updates.
Really? Mono is related to Microsoft in every way except having MS code in it. All the specifications that Mono is built to are developed at Microsoft.
I think that Ubuntu is one hell of a Distro, and GNU/Linux is one hell of an OS. Ubuntu, however is not geared for the market where we squeeze every CPU cycle we can. For that you have to do a _LOT_ of cleaning, replace your kernel to something a bit more fit for a server environment. Ubuntu is, and will always be a distro that is Easy to use first, even if that comes at the expense of some kruft. Each distro is becoming more bloated...
So... You mean to say Ubuntu is becoming like Windows then?
I almost died laughing after reading your reply, really. Keep it up. Maybe it's an insightful post if you're under an RDF. Programmers(Windows cenric or not) in general code if they interest or if there is demand(money). If not, they 'Just don't care'. Who will bother about writing complicated programs when they know there will be hardly any demand for it?
Anyway, going by your own logic, if someone's incompetent, it's Apple-based developers for not being able to develop anything having even half the features of MS Office, Exchange and Sharepoint.
Well, don't let me point facts contrary to your RDF, or your head might explode due to cognitive dissonance.
You can read/write Office files on Mac, with OO.o or MS Office, but there is no program on Windows to read iWork files is what he means I think. I hope that gets past the RDF.
Sony has had LED backlit laptops and dual graphic cards that you can switch with a button(intel integrated + nvidia discrete) for much more than a year(I'm typing on one right now). Apple is more about hype for ill informed people than anything else.
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In the first release of this paper, we said "Vista is still 32-bit" â" and this was true when we wrote it. Now, in December 2006, there is, in fact, an x86_64 build on the Vista CD-ROM now shipping. But it doesn't actually work â" even Microsoft's own preferred development tools don't run on it. It is unclear how much of this is due to problems specific to the 64-bit port versus how much of it is generic to Vista. Nor does that distinction matter much; the point is, the codebase Microsoft is counting on to carry it into the 64-bit world has serious problems.
It's really outdated badly. I have been using 64bit Windows from a long time at both home and work with nary a problem. Of course, I don't have an ancient printer with no 64bit drivers. But that's a problem with other OSes too. Linux/BSD might have it better coz they can recompile the OSS drivers into 64bit.
2. In a story about Macs, mentioning that you use any form of Windows will take you to karma hell, praising OS X will get you modded up, mentioning Linux will affect your karma based on your luck of draw moderators depending on which kind of fanboy they are. In any case, you will get a ton of long highly modded up replies about how OS X is better
3. In a story about Linux, mentioning that you use any form of Windows will take you to karma hell, praising Linux will get you modded up, mentioning OS X will affect your karma based on your luck of draw moderators depending on which kind of fanboy they are. In any case, you will get a ton of long highly modded up replies about how Linux is better.
4. In any other story, mentioning that you use any form of Windows will take you to karma hell, and praising Linux, OS X, BSD, Plan 9, OS/2, BeOS etc. will take you to karma heaven.
Anyone wanna make a graphical represenation of the above to make it easier to understanding on a glance? So, Vista/Windows 7 stories are the only opportunity for Windows users to come out of the woodwork and not pretend they like other OSes. It's amazing how many of them there are actually are around these parts.
Why not compare with 2K ? Also, 2K is better than XP by the same metrics you mentioned. Then why are you running XP?
Now, if they're only released a 64 bit for OEM (forcing new computers to have support), that could help the switch.
Then we would have a headline on Slashdot shouting "MS forces 64bit down the throats of people" and stories about how poor grandmas are unable to run their 32bit drivers for knitting.
WinFS was dropped from Vista like 4 years ago and the was was integrated into SQL Server. And it was never talked about again by MS. Where have you been?
The new system will come with Windows 7. Adding more cores and threads will make Windows 7 seem faster than a slower system on XP. Same with cheap RAM and disks. Windows 7 is supposed to be running really well on netbooks.
That reasoning sounds like bull to me. So, a software company should not release new advanced versions so that it will stagnate and competitors will catch up? Also, Vista took 5 years to finish.
When they've reached the unique position of having near 100% market penetration in their two primary markets, the only thing they can do to keep the serious money coming in is provide upgrades that people are willing to pay for, and Vista was so far off-target that substantial chunks of the market actively chose to go for Windows XP instead. If Windows 7 is another cock-up on that scale, then we could realistically be looking at the beginning of the end for Microsoft.
Do people pay in Monopoly plastic money for XP which MS cannot use and hence will kill it?
And, along the way, I've actually got Vista growing on me. The only thing I really don't like about it is that the start bar doesn't have "run" on it the way XP does, but other than that, Vista is better.
You can add it back in the start menu preferences. The Run option is better than the search bar sometimes because it has history in it and the search bar doesn't complete system .exes (like mstsc), just program names.
It was a bug that was introduced in a overzealous attempt to give multimedia playback priority over network download speeds. It was promptly fixed. SP1 included that fix, it had nothing to do with DRM whatsoever and that bug doesn't even exist now if you installed updates.
mono != moonlight != patented video codecs in moonlight
Like running a system (Windows) that crashes even if it not doing anything special.
The 90s called, they want your trolling back.
Bounds checking, to prevent buffer overflow, is an example of a patch that will slow down the kernel.
A similar thing was made compulsory in Vista and wasn't turned on much in XP.
Really? Mono is related to Microsoft in every way except having MS code in it. All the specifications that Mono is built to are developed at Microsoft.
I think that Ubuntu is one hell of a Distro, and GNU/Linux is one hell of an OS. Ubuntu, however is not geared for the market where we squeeze every CPU cycle we can. For that you have to do a _LOT_ of cleaning, replace your kernel to something a bit more fit for a server environment. Ubuntu is, and will always be a distro that is Easy to use first, even if that comes at the expense of some kruft. Each distro is becoming more bloated...
So... You mean to say Ubuntu is becoming like Windows then?
Slowdowns due to security didn't prevent everyone here from berating Vista for being slow.
Wow, I was wondering how quickly Microsoft would be somehow blamed for this. Didn't take long at all!
You know nothing about anything do you? If you knew about Linux you would know about this. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05/21/massive_debian_openssl_hangover/
Anyway, going by your own logic, if someone's incompetent, it's Apple-based developers for not being able to develop anything having even half the features of MS Office, Exchange and Sharepoint.
Well, don't let me point facts contrary to your RDF, or your head might explode due to cognitive dissonance.
You can read/write Office files on Mac, with OO.o or MS Office, but there is no program on Windows to read iWork files is what he means I think. I hope that gets past the RDF.
Furthermore pretty much all VPN client software (excluding Microsoft shite, of course) is NAT-T aware.
Uhh? I thought XP SP2 enabled NAT-T and updates have been available for Windows 2000 and plain vanilla XP to enable NAT-T.
Sony has had LED backlit laptops and dual graphic cards that you can switch with a button(intel integrated + nvidia discrete) for much more than a year(I'm typing on one right now). Apple is more about hype for ill informed people than anything else.
Ohh, The first one has no capital letters at all, but the second one has the first letters of Open and Source capitalized.
That's the only the logo. The term is not trademarked and cannot be.
The capital letters are not significant, if it says it's open source it has to have the rights specified by the OSD.
Says who?