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Actually I think that Apple are about to catch up with Microsoft when they switch to i386 chips. Just 'cause it's newer doesn't necessarily mean it's better.
God, what a literal soul you are! I was making a - obviously somewhat obscure - comment about all these "xxx hardware doesn't work with Linux" remarks.
Look at it the other way round: Athlon 64 doesn't work with OS/X, Pentium doesn't work with OS/X, iSeries doesn't work with OS/X, Amiga doesn't work with OS/X, Sparc doesn't...
Glad the "douches" could perceive the slight tinge of sarcasm and get to the (informative) point of my remarks.
Does that make any more sense?
Nothing sadder than those who complain when the moderators don't accord with their predjudices!
But do I want to have to buy expensive (and yes Apple hardware is expensive!) new hardware just so that I can run a particular OS?
At least with Linux I can run it on my PC, a Mac (if I had one), my old Amiga, a Zaurus handheld,... I can even run it on IBM iSeries, zSeries, Solaris boxes - you name it!
It's not really surprising that there are (alledgedly) fewer hardware problems with OS/X - it runs on an extremely limited hardware base.
"Living off his former glory" but he still manages the odd Grammy and Oscar. I'd be surprised if any of today's performers are remembered in forty years time.
People have been saying that Dylan was finished ever since the mid sixties, but he still keeps going. If you don't like it don't listen to him.
The amount of comment this has aroused tells me that Dylan is still relevant today.
Power is profitable without Apple. It's an inherent component of IBMs big machines. I don't see the loss of the Apple contract affecting it's profitibility in any substantial way.
Forgive me if I misunderstood you, but I thought you were arguing that the loss of the Apple sales will affect the development of the Power chip and sytems based on it. It won't because IBM's big money spinners are based upon it.
If IBM were just a chip manufacturer the loss of those sales might affect the whole future of the chip. But becasue they use it in their mid- and top-range machines it's not going to bother them at all. Selling one big iSeries or pSeries is worth a wealth of mini-Macs.
If that's not what you meant perhaps you could elaborate.
I think that you're falling into the trap of looking at the PowerPC chip as an alternative to x86- or 68000-class chips. But have a look at the diversity of systems that use these IBM chips. It's not just PCs or low-level servers but goes all the way through the IBM range. We're talking about really serious heavy metal here.
Losing Apple's custom is just a fleabite and won't have any appreciable effect of the development of PPC applications, Linux or other. We're not talking Dell or Apple here, it's a whole different ballgame.
An OpenPower 710 will cost you about $3500 (you might even be able to find it cheaper) as opposed to $3000 for a comparable X Server. It's not that big a difference! I'd pay an extra $500 for the openness and reliability of IBM kit. (No - I don't work for IBM! I'm just a satisfied customer.)
Not quite that obvious. OpenPower refers to a line of servers specifically designed to run Linux (hence the "Open") part. This is a small, very small, part of the IBM lineup (which includes some serious heavy metal).
A more accurate comparison would be:
"AMD promoting Athlon64 Systems"
Even that is not much of a comparison as the Athlon64 range is a much greater percentage of AMD's product than OpenPower servers are of IBM's.
It's a very difficult problem. Being charged with implementing Spam filtering measures for my company I know how difficult a line it is to walk. When you're handling mail for 600+ users you do get a different perpective on the problem.
We ended up by deciding to temporarily block mail from servers on certain blacklists (Spamhaus and Spamhaus XBL), sending a message back to the sender which allows them to release the mail. We also use SpamCop, but in a looser way; only if the mail comes from a SpamCop listed server and fails certain other tests do we, again temporarily, quarantine it. Otherwise we mark it as Spam, pass it through, and ask the recipient to tell us if it was Spam so that we can block it next time.
In either case the original sender, presuming it's a real person, has the ability to release the mail. (Of course we check all released mail, and if it's Spam the sender goes on our own permanent blacklist!).
I'm all too aware that this has the potential to add more useless mail to the system, but in practice most of these relase messages never even leave our server because the original came from a non-valid address. And it does work pretty well.
These, and other, rules allow us to block most of the Spam, which amounts to about 2/3 of all the mail we receive. And I've had a lot of compliments from the end users, so they appreciate what we're doing.
The moral is you can't trust the blacklists absolutely, but they have a very useful advisory role to play.
Lighten up! You seem to be getting a bit obsessed by mod points in your last few posts. It's not real! It's all just a game. Mod points aren't going to make your life any better.
So this link's been used before (not in the last 12 google stories though). How do you think I found out about it in the first place? But it's still funny and there are still people who haven't seen it (else why does it get modded up?). Let's not deprive them of the pleasure that we've both had from this glorious spoof.
I think you must be feeling a bit unloved so I'm going to make you my first "friend".
Peace and Love Henry
(PS Don't get too serious - I know you're not called Nick, any more than I'm called Henry.
You are, perhaps, being a little unfair to the Slashdot Editors here. It's the community that does most of the modding, not the Editors.
It would be foolish to contend that there isn't something of a pro-Linux leaning on Slashdot, rather than pro-Microsoft, but that just represents the community that use it.
I think you're missing the oh wait this is Slashdot comment. I think the inference there is that everyone on Slashdot is anti-Microsoft. (Not true of course - post something vaguely anti-Microsoft and you'll soon have a host of pro-Microsoft replies.)
I agree that it's difficult to know for sure. So I run behind a NATed router, run anti-virus software, keep scrupulously up-to-date with security patches, and use a firewall to block all incoming ports and all outgoing ports that I don't use.
You're right that I can't be absolutely sure but it's a lot safer bet than the idiot whose running without patching or anti-virus.
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Actually I think that Apple are about to catch up with Microsoft when they switch to i386 chips. Just 'cause it's newer doesn't necessarily mean it's better.
God, what a literal soul you are! I was making a - obviously somewhat obscure - comment about all these "xxx hardware doesn't work with Linux" remarks.
...
Look at it the other way round: Athlon 64 doesn't work with OS/X, Pentium doesn't work with OS/X, iSeries doesn't work with OS/X, Amiga doesn't work with OS/X, Sparc doesn't
Glad the "douches" could perceive the slight tinge of sarcasm and get to the (informative) point of my remarks.
Does that make any more sense?
Nothing sadder than those who complain when the moderators don't accord with their predjudices!
But do I want to have to buy expensive (and yes Apple hardware is expensive!) new hardware just so that I can run a particular OS?
... I can even run it on IBM iSeries, zSeries, Solaris boxes - you name it!
At least with Linux I can run it on my PC, a Mac (if I had one), my old Amiga, a Zaurus handheld,
It's not really surprising that there are (alledgedly) fewer hardware problems with OS/X - it runs on an extremely limited hardware base.
Why, just last year, I tried to get you to work with my 23" Apple Cinedisplay.
...
OS/X - why just yesterday I tried to get you to work with my Athlon 64 PC and
Hmm - I think that it's a case of once bitten twice shy. I wouldn't trust any software on my computer from the guy who invented Kazaa.
"Living off his former glory" but he still manages the odd Grammy and Oscar. I'd be surprised if any of today's performers are remembered in forty years time.
People have been saying that Dylan was finished ever since the mid sixties, but he still keeps going. If you don't like it don't listen to him.
The amount of comment this has aroused tells me that Dylan is still relevant today.
Power is profitable without Apple. It's an inherent component of IBMs big machines. I don't see the loss of the Apple contract affecting it's profitibility in any substantial way.
Forgive me if I misunderstood you, but I thought you were arguing that the loss of the Apple sales will affect the development of the Power chip and sytems based on it. It won't because IBM's big money spinners are based upon it.
If IBM were just a chip manufacturer the loss of those sales might affect the whole future of the chip. But becasue they use it in their mid- and top-range machines it's not going to bother them at all. Selling one big iSeries or pSeries is worth a wealth of mini-Macs.
If that's not what you meant perhaps you could elaborate.
Makes you wonder how the survive, doesn't it?
If IBM were just a chip manufacturer I'd agree with you. But that's not how they make their money.
I think that you're falling into the trap of looking at the PowerPC chip as an alternative to x86- or 68000-class chips. But have a look at the diversity of systems that use these IBM chips. It's not just PCs or low-level servers but goes all the way through the IBM range. We're talking about really serious heavy metal here.
Losing Apple's custom is just a fleabite and won't have any appreciable effect of the development of PPC applications, Linux or other. We're not talking Dell or Apple here, it's a whole different ballgame.
An OpenPower 710 will cost you about $3500 (you might even be able to find it cheaper) as opposed to $3000 for a comparable X Server. It's not that big a difference! I'd pay an extra $500 for the openness and reliability of IBM kit. (No - I don't work for IBM! I'm just a satisfied customer.)
Not quite that obvious. OpenPower refers to a line of servers specifically designed to run Linux (hence the "Open") part. This is a small, very small, part of the IBM lineup (which includes some serious heavy metal).
A more accurate comparison would be:
"AMD promoting Athlon64 Systems"
Even that is not much of a comparison as the Athlon64 range is a much greater percentage of AMD's product than OpenPower servers are of IBM's.
No, Spamhaus wasn't the list being criticized in tfa.
Yes, you are confused.
I think that you have succinctly stated what to do if you don't like the direction that Slashdot goes.
Spamhaus do not list just individual hosts. They certainly do list whole network ranges, in some cases an x.x.x.x/16 range.
I agree that they are by far the most reliable of the blacklists, but they are certainly not infallible.
We ended up by deciding to temporarily block mail from servers on certain blacklists (Spamhaus and Spamhaus XBL), sending a message back to the sender which allows them to release the mail. We also use SpamCop, but in a looser way; only if the mail comes from a SpamCop listed server and fails certain other tests do we, again temporarily, quarantine it. Otherwise we mark it as Spam, pass it through, and ask the recipient to tell us if it was Spam so that we can block it next time.
In either case the original sender, presuming it's a real person, has the ability to release the mail. (Of course we check all released mail, and if it's Spam the sender goes on our own permanent blacklist!).
I'm all too aware that this has the potential to add more useless mail to the system, but in practice most of these relase messages never even leave our server because the original came from a non-valid address. And it does work pretty well.
These, and other, rules allow us to block most of the Spam, which amounts to about 2/3 of all the mail we receive. And I've had a lot of compliments from the end users, so they appreciate what we're doing.
The moral is you can't trust the blacklists absolutely, but they have a very useful advisory role to play.
Nick
Lighten up! You seem to be getting a bit obsessed by mod points in your last few posts. It's not real! It's all just a game. Mod points aren't going to make your life any better.
So this link's been used before (not in the last 12 google stories though). How do you think I found out about it in the first place? But it's still funny and there are still people who haven't seen it (else why does it get modded up?). Let's not deprive them of the pleasure that we've both had from this glorious spoof.
I think you must be feeling a bit unloved so I'm going to make you my first "friend".
Peace and Love
Henry
(PS Don't get too serious - I know you're not called Nick, any more than I'm called Henry.
Your fan Henry)
You are, perhaps, being a little unfair to the Slashdot Editors here. It's the community that does most of the modding, not the Editors.
It would be foolish to contend that there isn't something of a pro-Linux leaning on Slashdot, rather than pro-Microsoft, but that just represents the community that use it.
I think you're missing the oh wait this is Slashdot comment. I think the inference there is that everyone on Slashdot is anti-Microsoft. (Not true of course - post something vaguely anti-Microsoft and you'll soon have a host of pro-Microsoft replies.)
I prefer the official Google explanation:
http://www.google.com/technology/pigeonrank.html
I honestly don't know anyone without a DVD player.
I agree that it's difficult to know for sure. So I run behind a NATed router, run anti-virus software, keep scrupulously up-to-date with security patches, and use a firewall to block all incoming ports and all outgoing ports that I don't use.
You're right that I can't be absolutely sure but it's a lot safer bet than the idiot whose running without patching or anti-virus.
If real programmers think it's OK to run Windows without patching or a virus checker I think that I'll stick to being a sysadmin.
Your naivity would be amusing if it wasn't such a pain to those of us who have a job to do. Are you sure you're old enough to be using a computer?