A lot of evidence points into google treating it as an internal security leak , and is conducting an internal audit on all its China employee. It seems Google has very good external security but is very vulnerable from inside.In the hacking very likely some google China employee was found to have leaked information that facilitate the attack. And that explain Google management's fury
as it would be a moment as shocking for them as the “Cambridge Five” for British government .
Firstly it would mean Google can no longer count on its Chinese employee’s loyalty when it clashes with their loyalty to China, so if it wants to operate in China it has to continue with a tainted staff, though that should have been expected for any corporation operating in a foreign country.
Secondly it would mean there are serious security loopholes in Google internal management as it failed to implement a safety mechanism to check or limit inside attack.It this is true, pile on the fact that Google is already facing increasing privacy scrutiny in the US and Europe,it would be a heavy blow to Google’s reputation as a whole as it sends out the message that Google cannot be trusted with your data IN ANY COUNTRY.
In my opinion Google failed to take care of its own fences,However
Google’s genius lies in politicizing this incident,as it completely shadows the question of Google’s own internal security vulnerability, as evidenced by the blanket omitting of this question in most of the news reports I have seen.It became a Good vs Evil in the news , and you cannot criticizing Good ole Google without being grouped with the Evil Chinese Communist, can you?
I'm surprised none of the stories about this mention how easy it is to VPN out of China and thus bypass any blocks they throw up.
The problem is that ordinary citizens in China doesn't know what happen on Tiananmen Square in 1989. Do you seriously expect the average Chinese citizen to be able to get VPN out og China, and risk his/her life/career on it because the sites are illegal.
The ordinary citizens in China (at least those over 20) know quite well what happened on Tiananmen in 1989,just talk to any Chinese cab driver.
As for Tiananmen square most think it will resolve over time .
Even a lot of 1989 demostrators support the Chinese government.Here is an interesting
interview.
Here I quote the most relevent part
"
Q. But what Deng achieved - could he not have done it within a more democratic system? Did there have to be the ruthlessness?
After going to the US for five or six years, I saw that the level of democracy there can only happen in a society with a certain level of education. What the people of China now need is leadership. China is one century behind the US, and you canâ(TM)t expect us to change that fast.
This is why many Asians resent it when Americans try to insist that the Chinese adopt their style of democracy. Shanghai may be ready, but if you go out to the surrounding areas, youâ(TM)ll see it just isnâ(TM)t possible, that it will take more time. I believe that one day, China will have Taiwan-style democracy, but it has to be built on a strong economy.
Q. I agree that Western-style democracy isnâ(TM)t right for China today. But canâ(TM)t there be a compromise? Canâ(TM)t the government be strong, without tolerating abuse of the poor by corrupt officials, without tolerating the marginalization of AIDS victims, without arresting kids who write about government reform on the Internet?
The way we view human rights is so different from the Westâ(TM)s. We have 1.3 billion people and many of them go hungry. Putting food on the table and a roof over its peopleâ(TM)s heads is what our government has to worry about. AIDS, corruption, the Internet - that is all secondary to the leadership of 1.3 billion people. If I were running China today, I would not be able to hear all the different parties. I would have to have my own agenda and stick to that agenda. I believe that if a secret vote were held today most people in China would vote for the CCP.
For more than 150 years, starting with the Opium Wars, our national pride has been bullied by the Europeans, the Russians, then the Japanese. Now China is an economic and a military power. And it has no intentions of being aggressive. So I am not giving up my Chinese citizenship. Ten years ago I would have jumped to do that.
Looking back, I firmly believe the government did the right thing, though they could have handled it better. We paid a high price. Our leaders in 1989 could have shown greater human skills and greater negotiating skills. But letâ(TM)s live with Communism for now and change things one thing at a time. The Chinese now have a much better life than they did 100 years ago. Not so long ago, my house was the first in our hutong to have a television set. The whole neighborhood would come to our backyard and sit on the ground to watch. It was just a 9-inch TV, and we put a la
I am Chinese and I received this poem circulating in the Chinese circle which I think captures the sentiment of ordinary Chinese rather well . A LETTER FROM AN ORDINARY CHINESE
When we were seen as "Sick Men from East Asia", we were called The Peril. When we strived to get stronger, we are called The Threat.
When we closed our doors to the world, you forced them open with drugs and guns. When we finally embraced Free Trade, you blame us for taking away your jobs.
When we were falling apart, you marched in your troops and robbed us blind. When we put the broken pieces back together again, "Free tÂbet" you screamed, it was an invasion!
So, we tried Communism, you hated us for being Communists. Then we learned from Capitalism, you hated us for being Capitalists.
When we had a billion people, you said "The planet is starving." So we tried to limit our population, you said it was Human Rights Abuse.
When we were poor, you think we are dogs. When we loan you cash, you blame us for your debts.
When we build our industries, you blame us for global warming. When we sell you goods you can afford, you blame us for dumping inferior products.
When we buy oil, you called that exploitation and assisting genocide. When you fight for oil, you called that Liberation of Its People.
When we were lost in chaos and rampage, you wanted Rules of Law for us. When we uphold our law and order against violence, you called that Violating Human Rights.
When we were silent, you said we have No Free Speech. When we are NOW silent no more, you say we are merely "Brainwashed".
"Why do you hate us so much?" We asked. "No" You answered, "We don't hate you." Truth is we really don't hate you either, but do you understand us? "Of course we do" You said, "We have BBC, CNN and AFPs." So we ask you now "What do you really know and want from us?" And "Why do you find it SO hard to accept us?"
instead of a common laptop. This is not intended as a desktop replacement that needs to be placed on a desk to comfortably use, it is a truly portable pc as a complement to your beefy pc that you can slap out anywhere,any time, in the class,on the bus, sitting , standing, you name it. With a weight of 2lb, I can comfortably hold this baby with one hand for extended length of time. It will be perfect for me as a student to put in my book bag.
And for taking notes, writing papers , surfing the net, checking email,you don't need a bloated modern laptop(most can burn you if you try to use on you lap)weighting more than 6 lb, with screaming dual core intel processor and wide screen lcd. And if I want some heavy lifting I can easily ssh to my desktop.
I have been wanting something like this for a long time, and the only alternatives before is the tablets like the thinkpad X series with a price tag easily over 1k$,as a poor student I can hardly afford. The EEE is just priced right for me, I will happily snatch one at launch.
As for light and cheap laptop i have to point out the Asus EEEhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asus_Eee.
2lb,
7inch LCD,
900 MHz Pentium M ,
512 MB DDR2-400,
4 or 8 GB flash Solid state drive,
Starting at $200,
perfect for portable needs
As a Chinese who have gone through the Chinese university entrance exams, I have to say while it is certainly not a great system(And quite painful to undertake for even once),it may be the only feisible system for now from a Chinese point of view.Given the number of students waiting to enter college each year ( 8 million in 2006), guarantee the fairness of grading the exam alone is a enormous task, the American system of reviewing simply cannot not work. While it may encourage cheating and discourage creativity , it may be more fair to the students than what will be if Chinese universities copy the American system, since the Chinese educational system is now among the less corrupted systems in China.What is most unfair is not the exam but the disctrict discrimination between major cities (Beijing,Shanghai) and else of China.Since the major universities are concentrated in Beijing ond Shanghai,students in these cities have a much greater chance of entering universities than a student from other district which have far more population than Beijing but only about the same or less number of enrollment .
Slashdot Mirror
This is congruent with another report that mentioned
Google put its Google China staff on paid leave and
suspended their access after the incident:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/jan/18/china-google-cyber-attack
A lot of evidence points into google treating it as an internal security leak .In the hacking very likely some google China employee was found to have leaked
, and is conducting an internal audit on all its China employee. It seems
Google has very good external security but is very vulnerable from inside
information that facilitate the attack. And that explain Google management's fury
as it would be a moment as shocking for them as the
“Cambridge Five” for British government .
Firstly it would mean Google can no longer count on its Chinese
employee’s loyalty when it clashes with their loyalty to China, so if
it wants to operate in China it has to continue with a tainted staff, though that
should have been expected for any corporation operating in a foreign country.
Secondly it would mean there are serious security loopholes in Google
internal management as it failed to implement a safety mechanism to
check or limit inside attack.It this is true, pile on the fact that
Google is already facing increasing privacy scrutiny in the US and
Europe,it would be a heavy blow to Google’s reputation as a whole as
it sends out the message that Google cannot be trusted with your data
IN ANY COUNTRY.
In my opinion Google failed to take care of its own fences,However ,as
Google’s genius lies in politicizing this incident
it completely shadows the question of Google’s own internal security
vulnerability, as evidenced by the blanket omitting of this question
in most of the news reports I have seen.It became a Good vs Evil in the news ,
and you cannot criticizing Good ole Google
without being grouped with the Evil Chinese Communist, can you?
I'm surprised none of the stories about this mention how easy it is to VPN out of China and thus bypass any blocks they throw up.
The problem is that ordinary citizens in China doesn't know what happen on Tiananmen Square in 1989. Do you seriously expect the average Chinese citizen to be able to get VPN out og China, and risk his/her life/career on it because the sites are illegal.
The ordinary citizens in China (at least those over 20) know quite well what happened on Tiananmen in 1989,just talk to any Chinese cab driver.
Most Chinese don't think it has much relevance to today's business. While they agree the government in 1989 committed horrible crimes, hell it is two decades ago and both China and Chinese government has changed a lot. Most of Chinese are happy with the current government.
As for Tiananmen square most think it will resolve over time . Even a lot of 1989 demostrators support the Chinese government.Here is an interesting interview.
Here I quote the most relevent part
" Q. But what Deng achieved - could he not have done it within a more democratic system? Did there have to be the ruthlessness?
After going to the US for five or six years, I saw that the level of democracy there can only happen in a society with a certain level of education. What the people of China now need is leadership. China is one century behind the US, and you canâ(TM)t expect us to change that fast.
This is why many Asians resent it when Americans try to insist that the Chinese adopt their style of democracy. Shanghai may be ready, but if you go out to the surrounding areas, youâ(TM)ll see it just isnâ(TM)t possible, that it will take more time. I believe that one day, China will have Taiwan-style democracy, but it has to be built on a strong economy.
Q. I agree that Western-style democracy isnâ(TM)t right for China today. But canâ(TM)t there be a compromise? Canâ(TM)t the government be strong, without tolerating abuse of the poor by corrupt officials, without tolerating the marginalization of AIDS victims, without arresting kids who write about government reform on the Internet?
The way we view human rights is so different from the Westâ(TM)s. We have 1.3 billion people and many of them go hungry. Putting food on the table and a roof over its peopleâ(TM)s heads is what our government has to worry about. AIDS, corruption, the Internet - that is all secondary to the leadership of 1.3 billion people. If I were running China today, I would not be able to hear all the different parties. I would have to have my own agenda and stick to that agenda. I believe that if a secret vote were held today most people in China would vote for the CCP.
For more than 150 years, starting with the Opium Wars, our national pride has been bullied by the Europeans, the Russians, then the Japanese. Now China is an economic and a military power. And it has no intentions of being aggressive. So I am not giving up my Chinese citizenship. Ten years ago I would have jumped to do that.
Looking back, I firmly believe the government did the right thing, though they could have handled it better. We paid a high price. Our leaders in 1989 could have shown greater human skills and greater negotiating skills. But letâ(TM)s live with Communism for now and change things one thing at a time. The Chinese now have a much better life than they did 100 years ago. Not so long ago, my house was the first in our hutong to have a television set. The whole neighborhood would come to our backyard and sit on the ground to watch. It was just a 9-inch TV, and we put a la
Here is one of the deepest discussion on Tibet I have seen which include many reference including statistics from academic source which may relate to your questions.
http://discussions.pbs.org/viewtopic.pbs?t=68073&sid=ce0b20590dd445725153c83b5ef21c7f
I am Chinese and I received this poem circulating in the Chinese circle which I think captures the sentiment of ordinary Chinese rather well .
A LETTER FROM AN ORDINARY CHINESE
When we were seen as "Sick Men from East Asia", we were called The Peril.
When we strived to get stronger, we are called The Threat.
When we closed our doors to the world, you forced them open with drugs and guns.
When we finally embraced Free Trade, you blame us for taking away your jobs.
When we were falling apart, you marched in your troops and robbed us blind.
When we put the broken pieces back together again, "Free tÂbet" you screamed, it was an invasion!
So, we tried Communism, you hated us for being Communists.
Then we learned from Capitalism, you hated us for being Capitalists.
When we had a billion people, you said "The planet is starving."
So we tried to limit our population, you said it was Human Rights Abuse.
When we were poor, you think we are dogs.
When we loan you cash, you blame us for your debts.
When we build our industries, you blame us for global warming.
When we sell you goods you can afford, you blame us for dumping inferior products.
When we buy oil, you called that exploitation and assisting genocide.
When you fight for oil, you called that Liberation of Its People.
When we were lost in chaos and rampage, you wanted Rules of Law for us.
When we uphold our law and order against violence, you called that Violating Human Rights.
When we were silent, you said we have No Free Speech.
When we are NOW silent no more, you say we are merely "Brainwashed".
"Why do you hate us so much?" We asked.
"No" You answered, "We don't hate you."
Truth is we really don't hate you either, but do you understand us?
"Of course we do" You said, "We have BBC, CNN and AFPs."
So we ask you now "What do you really know and want from us?"
And "Why do you find it SO hard to accept us?"
instead of a common laptop. This is not intended as a desktop replacement that needs to be placed on a desk to comfortably use, it is a truly portable pc as a complement to your beefy pc that you can slap out anywhere ,any time, in the class,on the bus, sitting , standing, you name it. With a weight of 2lb, I can comfortably hold this baby with one hand for extended length of time. It will be perfect for me as a student to put in my book bag.
And for taking notes, writing papers , surfing the net, checking email,you don't need a bloated modern laptop(most can burn you if you try to use on you lap)weighting more than 6 lb, with screaming dual core intel processor and wide screen lcd. And if I want some heavy lifting I can easily ssh to my desktop.
I have been wanting something like this for a long time, and the only alternatives before is the tablets like the thinkpad X series with a price tag easily over 1k$,as a poor student I can hardly afford. The EEE is just priced right for me, I will happily snatch one at launch.
As for light and cheap laptop i have to point out the Asus EEEhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asus_Eee. 2lb, 7inch LCD, 900 MHz Pentium M , 512 MB DDR2-400, 4 or 8 GB flash Solid state drive, Starting at $200, perfect for portable needs
When shall we see government issue branded as forgettol? And any good candidate for acceptol?
As a Chinese who have gone through the Chinese university entrance exams, I have to say while it is certainly not a great system(And quite painful to undertake for even once),it may be the only feisible system for now from a Chinese point of view.Given the number of students waiting to enter college each year ( 8 million in 2006), guarantee the fairness of grading the exam alone is a enormous task, the American system of reviewing simply cannot not work. While it may encourage cheating and discourage creativity , it may be more fair to the students than what will be if Chinese universities copy the American system, since the Chinese educational system is now among the less corrupted systems in China .What is most unfair is not the exam but the disctrict discrimination between major cities (Beijing,Shanghai) and else of China.Since the major universities are concentrated in Beijing ond Shanghai,students in these cities have a much greater chance of entering universities than a student from other district which have far more population than Beijing but only about the same or less number of enrollment .