Fighting stupid laws in someone else's country is one of the many reasons wars are started. Countries typically don't like outsiders messing in their stuff. That is like a family feud. My brother and I might have a knock down drag out, but if you step in the middle, we'll both take you down. It is our business, not yours. It doesn't matter how stupid the reason for the fight is.
I agree that the law is stupid, but that is not for outsiders to worry about. The caveat here is if the law issue involves the citizen of another country. While the visitor still has to submit to the laws of the country he is visiting, the diplomatic corps can step in and try to help without too much flack. They may are may not be successful, but at least it is less likely to be offensive to the host country.
Ridiculous laws are ridiculous. Face it: Law does not reflect the actual public opinion or values. Since its hard to remove old laws it's easy for the past to hold us prisoners. This is why we should only pass those laws that we really must have forever.
I agree again (and, yes, I did know). By the way, with my buddies in our government, my relentless comment to them is, "Don't tell me the laws you authored/supported/passed/ect., tell me about the ones you have eliminated."
The problem with the Texas law is that it requires "the average person" to apply their own "standards" (read: right wing christians dictate what's decent; Clearly a loophole bypassing Church/State separation).
You don't know the meaning of Church/State separation, if that is your belief. That is a relatively new *made up* concept that is a twisted version of the government shall not make a state religion provision. And, the concept of "right and left wings" is a great ploy by the ruling class (read as politicians) to distract us. Both "wings" are bad, but they are not separate. Actually, and for the point of illustration and simplicity, I'm to use loose terms of communism and fascism to describe them both. They are both for total government control. I'm an old-fashioned Constitutionalist. Limited government is my preference.
IMO, non enforcement should be grounds for removal. The Swedish law of latter day rape is largely unenforced as well.
If the governments actually actively and aggressively enforced all the laws of the lands, laws like these would be much easier to overturn.
Unfortunately, law making branches are there to make new laws, they can't be bothered to audit the old ones -- If there are no lobbyists against the old laws, they stay on the books.
How to create a Police State:
1. Create laws that no one obeys. 2. Do not enforce said laws. 3. Wait for someone to do something you don't like. 4. Toss them in jail for breaking one of the laws you don't normally enforce. 5. Oppress!
I would agree. However, if morals were at play here, me being Christian, I would say that the un-wed sex he was having was a sin and immoral to begin with. However, I was simply dealing with the law as written by man. And, yes, laws are interpreted by the judges. We have good and bad judges.That is why there is an appeals process, in America, at least. Other countries also have appeal processes. There are countries where you don't get to appeal, but now I'm getting off topic.
Laws are all about interpretation. Judges "interpret" the law. Layers argue their interpretations of laws to the judges. The American Constitution is constantly being re-interpreted. Heck, things not even in it are being cited as "constitutional" (e.g. Separation of Church and State). Another example is the right to keep and bear arms.
As someone above stated, fame and notoriety often means that you are treated different. Sometimes that is good (O.J. Simpson) and sometimes that is bad. In this case, bad for him.
Mistaking incompetence for evil is a common mistake. Politicians are often incompetent (true they are also often evil, but that is not the point). The CIA doesn't have to be involved for some politician to have reasons to take the guy down. It might be as simple as a craving public attention. Or it might even be a someone that thinks that, according to the intent of their laws, that not stopping when the condom breaks is rape.
When in Rome! You have to deal with the laws where you reside. Placing your culture's more's on another culture is one of the things that causes such strife in the world. Sweden is a country with the laws created by their people - not American laws.
Nor does Apple control the aftermarket for the iOS devices - yet they both do within reason. If you want to purchase a case or different headphones, Apple does not care just as GM doesn't care if you purchase a different stereo system for your car.
However, try tampering with the guts of the vehicle that is covered by their warranty and see how long your warranty is good. Same with Apple. For example, my father has a heavy duty diesel pick-up truck. A popular enhancement is to replace one of the engine computers with one that has been customized. With a switch, you can adjust whether the engine is running for power, speed, or fuel economy. (I don't know how well the work, but that is the story.) By replacing that one very small component, he voided the entire engine and drive train portions of his warranty. The analogy holds.
No, that is not exactly the same as the Apple Store for the iOS, but the main points hold up. And, yes, if you do repair work on your vehicle, if they are not "Genuine GM Parts", then you have a very high chance that your warranty can be voided (for that repair, if not the entire engine/drive-train).
Thankfully, you are in a company where you can do that. I personally know of others where that just wouldn't fly. Also, thankfully, I never have to work in those companies.
Yep, the Apple kit does tend to seem to cost a bit more. But whenever I do my purchase punch list of things that I'm likely to use, then beef up the (as example) Dell products to have what I need, they tend to cost nearly the same or even more - the the hardware quality is almost always worse! I live in Austin, TX, and have a LOT of access to the Dell products. If you knew the attitudes of the people running the company from the ground up, trust me, you would choose an example other than Dell to compare Apple kit to!!
As an example, look up the very recent article where Dell employees (from the highest to the lowest) knew that there was a huge quality problem with one of their most popular systems, and purposely chose to not tell their customers (consumer or corporate) about the problems. Rather to try to blame third part software/hardware for any problems and try not to have to repair/replace/refund as many systems as possible.
"...in free software it is your very use of the software that leads to its improvement." How is that possible? I thought that someone would have to make a code change, submit it, have it approved and merged into the trunk, the user would update their version, and continue using it. Not to mention that someone would have to submit the idea for the improvement (at least come up with an idea on their own if they are the programmer), and you would need at least one programmer to take up the cause and generate the code, test it, etc.
By the way, the programmers that generate the code, how do they eat? Someone, somewhere has to put money into the system. Thus Free software is not really free. Rather the costs are hidden and very widely distributed.
I pretty much agree with your sentiment, but take issue with the "pricey" comment. As an example, take a look at iPad and compare it to the Samsun Galaxy Tab.
iOS is still *nix. It is basically the same as the desktop OS, until you get to some layers like the user interface. That is why you use Xcode and the Cocoa frameworks to develop for the iOS stuff.
So true! I mean, look at the high profit margins and over all profits being made by the other manufacturers! I mean look there's, uh,um, well...there's hmm.
Okay, so maybe that approach won't work out because no one else is making the profit that Apple is making.
You are sooooo right. In fact, we should rail against file permissions because it allows the mean manufacturers to control file access. We should take all internet access from our computers because it allows manufacturers to get data from our computers for their own use.
Wait! Maybe those are just abuses of good ideas. Maybe on App Store for OS X will not be abused and be just a good idea. Nah, let paranoia reign.
Dude, you need a better history or news organ if you think that the Republicans (not that they are much better than the Democrats anyway), controlled both houses for the eight or even six years while Bush was president.
Hmmm AT&T already allows you to stream shows to your iOS devices if you have a U-verse account. I wonder if they'll add the Apple TV to their line-up of approved set-top boxes for streaming content similar to the Xbox option.
Hmmmwhat are you looking for that one of the ones there don't do for you? I counted 116 apps for SMS. I'm sure many don't fit the normal idea for SMS, but I know that some do.
BTWthis was all in the official iTunes Store (US).
I agree that the Apple provided Message app should have the ability to let you set your own tone. I'm sure that there are no Adroid apps that are missing something – perfection personified.
Seriously, though, if you don't like the built-in SMS app, then download another from the App store.
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Fighting stupid laws in someone else's country is one of the many reasons wars are started. Countries typically don't like outsiders messing in their stuff. That is like a family feud. My brother and I might have a knock down drag out, but if you step in the middle, we'll both take you down. It is our business, not yours. It doesn't matter how stupid the reason for the fight is.
I agree that the law is stupid, but that is not for outsiders to worry about. The caveat here is if the law issue involves the citizen of another country. While the visitor still has to submit to the laws of the country he is visiting, the diplomatic corps can step in and try to help without too much flack. They may are may not be successful, but at least it is less likely to be offensive to the host country.
When in Rome! You have to deal with the laws where you reside.
Absolutely!
In short: Do not do anything in any country if you are not 100% sure that it is legal to do so.
Pffft. Don't believe this "when in rome" crap. Hey, fellow Texan, did you know it's illegal to masturbate, women can't own more than 6 sex toys (intent to distribute obscene devices), and dildos are outright banned in Texas?
Ridiculous laws are ridiculous. Face it: Law does not reflect the actual public opinion or values. Since its hard to remove old laws it's easy for the past to hold us prisoners. This is why we should only pass those laws that we really must have forever.
I agree again (and, yes, I did know). By the way, with my buddies in our government, my relentless comment to them is, "Don't tell me the laws you authored/supported/passed/ect., tell me about the ones you have eliminated."
The problem with the Texas law is that it requires "the average person" to apply their own "standards" (read: right wing christians dictate what's decent; Clearly a loophole bypassing Church/State separation).
You don't know the meaning of Church/State separation, if that is your belief. That is a relatively new *made up* concept that is a twisted version of the government shall not make a state religion provision. And, the concept of "right and left wings" is a great ploy by the ruling class (read as politicians) to distract us. Both "wings" are bad, but they are not separate. Actually, and for the point of illustration and simplicity, I'm to use loose terms of communism and fascism to describe them both. They are both for total government control. I'm an old-fashioned Constitutionalist. Limited government is my preference.
IMO, non enforcement should be grounds for removal. The Swedish law of latter day rape is largely unenforced as well.
If the governments actually actively and aggressively enforced all the laws of the lands, laws like these would be much easier to overturn.
Unfortunately, law making branches are there to make new laws, they can't be bothered to audit the old ones -- If there are no lobbyists against the old laws, they stay on the books.
How to create a Police State:
1. Create laws that no one obeys.
2. Do not enforce said laws.
3. Wait for someone to do something you don't like.
4. Toss them in jail for breaking one of the laws you don't normally enforce.
5. Oppress!
That is certainly one way to do it.
I would agree. However, if morals were at play here, me being Christian, I would say that the un-wed sex he was having was a sin and immoral to begin with. However, I was simply dealing with the law as written by man. And, yes, laws are interpreted by the judges. We have good and bad judges.That is why there is an appeals process, in America, at least. Other countries also have appeal processes. There are countries where you don't get to appeal, but now I'm getting off topic.
So, so true.
Obviously, you are not familiar with American Federal Judges.
Insensitive? That was a compliment.
Very good! Nope, only been living here for 80% of my life - and I'm too old to think of being anything but Texan.
As the bumper sticker says, "I'm not native, but I got to Texas as fast as I could!"
Laws are all about interpretation. Judges "interpret" the law. Layers argue their interpretations of laws to the judges. The American Constitution is constantly being re-interpreted. Heck, things not even in it are being cited as "constitutional" (e.g. Separation of Church and State). Another example is the right to keep and bear arms.
As someone above stated, fame and notoriety often means that you are treated different. Sometimes that is good (O.J. Simpson) and sometimes that is bad. In this case, bad for him.
Mistaking incompetence for evil is a common mistake. Politicians are often incompetent (true they are also often evil, but that is not the point). The CIA doesn't have to be involved for some politician to have reasons to take the guy down. It might be as simple as a craving public attention. Or it might even be a someone that thinks that, according to the intent of their laws, that not stopping when the condom breaks is rape.
When in Rome! You have to deal with the laws where you reside. Placing your culture's more's on another culture is one of the things that causes such strife in the world. Sweden is a country with the laws created by their people - not American laws.
BTWI am American and live in Texas.
Nor does Apple control the aftermarket for the iOS devices - yet they both do within reason. If you want to purchase a case or different headphones, Apple does not care just as GM doesn't care if you purchase a different stereo system for your car.
However, try tampering with the guts of the vehicle that is covered by their warranty and see how long your warranty is good. Same with Apple. For example, my father has a heavy duty diesel pick-up truck. A popular enhancement is to replace one of the engine computers with one that has been customized. With a switch, you can adjust whether the engine is running for power, speed, or fuel economy. (I don't know how well the work, but that is the story.) By replacing that one very small component, he voided the entire engine and drive train portions of his warranty. The analogy holds.
No, that is not exactly the same as the Apple Store for the iOS, but the main points hold up. And, yes, if you do repair work on your vehicle, if they are not "Genuine GM Parts", then you have a very high chance that your warranty can be voided (for that repair, if not the entire engine/drive-train).
Thankfully, you are in a company where you can do that. I personally know of others where that just wouldn't fly. Also, thankfully, I never have to work in those companies.
Yep, the Apple kit does tend to seem to cost a bit more. But whenever I do my purchase punch list of things that I'm likely to use, then beef up the (as example) Dell products to have what I need, they tend to cost nearly the same or even more - the the hardware quality is almost always worse! I live in Austin, TX, and have a LOT of access to the Dell products. If you knew the attitudes of the people running the company from the ground up, trust me, you would choose an example other than Dell to compare Apple kit to!!
As an example, look up the very recent article where Dell employees (from the highest to the lowest) knew that there was a huge quality problem with one of their most popular systems, and purposely chose to not tell their customers (consumer or corporate) about the problems. Rather to try to blame third part software/hardware for any problems and try not to have to repair/replace/refund as many systems as possible.
I curious, what kind of car do you drive? I assume that you built it yourself.
"...in free software it is your very use of the software that leads to its improvement." How is that possible? I thought that someone would have to make a code change, submit it, have it approved and merged into the trunk, the user would update their version, and continue using it. Not to mention that someone would have to submit the idea for the improvement (at least come up with an idea on their own if they are the programmer), and you would need at least one programmer to take up the cause and generate the code, test it, etc.
By the way, the programmers that generate the code, how do they eat? Someone, somewhere has to put money into the system. Thus Free software is not really free. Rather the costs are hidden and very widely distributed.
I pretty much agree with your sentiment, but take issue with the "pricey" comment. As an example, take a look at iPad and compare it to the Samsun Galaxy Tab.
Yep. Provided they don't get fired for installing non-approved software on a computer owned by someone else.
iOS is still *nix. It is basically the same as the desktop OS, until you get to some layers like the user interface. That is why you use Xcode and the Cocoa frameworks to develop for the iOS stuff.
So true! I mean, look at the high profit margins and over all profits being made by the other manufacturers! I mean look there's, uh,um, well...there's hmm.
Okay, so maybe that approach won't work out because no one else is making the profit that Apple is making.
You are sooooo right. In fact, we should rail against file permissions because it allows the mean manufacturers to control file access. We should take all internet access from our computers because it allows manufacturers to get data from our computers for their own use.
Wait! Maybe those are just abuses of good ideas. Maybe on App Store for OS X will not be abused and be just a good idea. Nah, let paranoia reign.
THE SKY IS FALLING! THE SKY IS FALLING!
Dude, you need a better history or news organ if you think that the Republicans (not that they are much better than the Democrats anyway), controlled both houses for the eight or even six years while Bush was president.
Hmmm AT&T already allows you to stream shows to your iOS devices if you have a U-verse account. I wonder if they'll add the Apple TV to their line-up of approved set-top boxes for streaming content similar to the Xbox option.
Hmmmwhat are you looking for that one of the ones there don't do for you? I counted 116 apps for SMS. I'm sure many don't fit the normal idea for SMS, but I know that some do.
BTWthis was all in the official iTunes Store (US).
I agree that the Apple provided Message app should have the ability to let you set your own tone. I'm sure that there are no Adroid apps that are missing something – perfection personified.
Seriously, though, if you don't like the built-in SMS app, then download another from the App store.