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Wikileaks Founder Arrested In London
CuteSteveJobs writes "The founder of WikiLeaks, Julian Assange, has been arrested by London police on behalf of Swedish authorities on allegation of rape. Assange has admitted that he is exhausted by the ongoing battle against authorities. The Swiss Government has confiscated $37K in his Swiss Bank account. PayPal and Mastercard have frozen Wikileak's accounts, hampering Wikileaks from raising any more funds."
...just two starstruck women sympathetic to WikiLeaks' cause — one of whom was a longtime activist and even a part of an organization that arranged one of his talks, and thus obviously not a CIA "sparrow".
All the sordid details here. It's a must-read for people who think US intelligence agencies are somehow behind this.
Would this have been able to happen without Sweden's strange "rape" laws? No, probably not. Would the case have received as much attention from authorities if it was an ordinary person? Again, perhaps not, but that's the price of fame and notoriety: famous and well-known people often get different treatment — and what treatment they do get garners massive news coverage.
Here's a just published Register article that discusses the strong criticism of Wikileaks by John Young of Cryptome:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/12/07/cryptome_on_wikileaks/
...and hope that his site will continue to 'spill the beans.'
Will Assange's people put the money where his mouth is and release the key to the insurance file?
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"... you're nicked slaaag!" A more senior police officer added. "We'll stitch you up like a kipper!" While the Met Commander finished with "You're goin' down, you grass!"
If he's the Walrus then can I be a penguin please?
Are we expected to believe that based on a non-violent rape allegation (which was dropped, brought up, dropped) - in which he was not even taken into custody - that Britian is arresting a Swedish national to extradict?
I wonder if he'll magically disappear off the grid and end up in one of the US's inhumane 'prisons'.
He isn't accused of rape, reminder available here.
He also voluntarily turned himself in at a police station.
If you're in London and can make it out NOW, please consider protesting.
Had submitter even bothered to read articles he has linked to? Government has not 'confiscated' Assange's money. Bank closed his account, but Julian is free to pick up his money and make deposit in another bank.
Time to decode that insurance file.
And, with what I assure you is no humor, I hope on behalf of all honest human beings, lovers of justice, haters of sniveling cowards, and believers in justice and truth whatever brand it carries, that what is in that file hurts the fuck out of the liars and thieves that stand in places of power.
Don't let Julian Assange be the last real man on earth.
wonder if this means he plans on leveraging his 'Insurance' File to get out of this mess.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/12/05/wikileaks-ready-release-massive-insurance-file-shut/
Assange has admitted that he exhausted by the ongoing battle against authorities.
Is it too much to ask for a little proof reading? Oh..wait..Slashdot. Nevermind!
Since when do Swiss banks or government care about where the money comes from?
Hypocrite assholes.
Recently, the Swedish authorities have changed their mind about Assange more times than they have changed their underwear. (Captain Obvious: That is a sign of them trying to find a reason to nail the man.)
Who's up for a bloody revolution?
If we could devote even one tenth the resources that were allocated to finding just this one guy and put it towards finding all the serial rapists and child molesters who are at large, imagine how many real threats to society could be taken off the streets!
"he is certainly a man of strong sexual appetites"
I think the key to the above is "man" no?
Lets not forget (in the future) that searching for "Wikileaks" on Google takes you to 213.251.145.96 Google is US company, just like eBay/PayPal or Amazon. So, no excuse any more for those "low-abiding" dickheads.
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hahaha for RAPE ffs?!?!? considering what wikileaks has been responsible for, I hardly think arresting him for rape is even worth it, let alone justified...
Gosh, it just repeats itself 1:1. Josef Stalin was the first ethnic minority leader.
What's next? An exclusive from the Sun's "News in Briefs"?
Chief prosecutor dropped the case, saying there was nothing to make a case about. two girls also did not make any accusations or allegations.
but then, a swedish politician intervened. after the intervention of that dipshit, the case was reopened, and a MORONIC interpretation of the law was made, saying that 'not stopping after a condom broke is rape'.
the asswipes, INVENTED a new law, right on the spot.
and you are saying that cia was not involved. speaking of which, i have a bridge to sell you.
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On a late night politics show on the BBC yesterday, they were talking about Assange and WikiLeaks, with Ms Colleen Graffy, former deputy US assistant secretary of state one of the guests. If that woman is the best the US have, no wonder they should be embarrassed over the leaked cables. Intelligent is one thing you would not say she was.
You get burned. End of.
On what charge can they seize his bank account? On what charge can they seize any money? This is it people. This is how the globalist react to a threat. I am here in America. It is disgusting me, watching the news each day, radio-talk show host, they all condemn Assuage, sucked into the ad hominem attack that was crafted by the power that be. Check Google Trends, look at 'WikiLeaks', then look at 'Assuage'. The powers that be know how to coddle the masses, give them a drama piece, mention some sex, and they will go wild. The character assassination has worked, not because they took down Assuage with repeated 'turrorist', 'think of da children', 'hes a spy' ramblings, but because to people, Assuage is WikiLeaks. Listen to Eric Holder. Listen to Hillary. Their fucking power struggle for the spread of the plutocracy is threatened by freedom of information, see how violently they are reacting. In my experience, those who are guilty and have something to hide will act the most defensive and get extremely belligerent when somebody tries to expose and correct said bad behavior. Enter the US Government.
Do you fear your government? You should, but it didn't always have to be this way. It used to be that you were the government. There was at least some voice. Now, nameless and faceless pockets full of international money control the puppet. We've seen it in the elections. We go from extreme conservative to extreme democrat president, and its more or less the same. Less freedom. Hell, the latest white-house has honored FOIA request about as 'great' as his predecessor. Oldboss, newboss, that gig.
This is just a rant. But I am sure all of you that come here for the insightful comments (this is not one) are tired of listening to the fucking talking heads in the mainstream media reiterate the same points. 'He's a terrorist', 'He should be charged', 'He this' 'He that'. How about the talk about the fucking cables themselves, how about they talk about how this is similar to the pentagon papers, how about they talk about why the government is reacting so violently to this in light of the fact that these cables are mostly common knowledge amongst the powers that be and anybody that knows anything. I know why they don't talk about it. Because they drink the fucking coolaid. Or maybe they're co-conspirators. Or both. Fuck it. Check off this citizen on another bullshit watch list. Wouldn't surprise me.
Like George Carlin said, just getting fucked by that big red white and blue dick.
'We are trying to prove ourselves wrong as quickly as possible, because only in that way can we find progress.' RPF
If Allah doesn't want me to have sex out of marriage, he should give me a call; I'm sure he knows where to find me.
And millions upon millions of Muslims are filthy pervert paedophile homosexuals, just like their disgusting prophet (shit be upon him).
So go fuck yourselves you bunch of camel fucking deviants.
OH..google up "islam and homosexuality" and you'll soon find out that all the little Muslim boys get fagged up by the disgusting Muslim men, and then when they turn 18 "it never happened".
It's true.
That's what happens when you create dysfunctional societies where they have no access to women, just each others anuses.
Not in the handling of Assange, but his own double standards. Apparently WikiLeaks is being controlled from "secret locations", yet he isn't disclosing them! (BBC News) How is it fair and consistent to disclose the US's "list of vital sites" (which no-one need know) but not WikiLeaks' "list of vital control sites"? ;)
"Today's actions against our editor-in-chief Julian Assange won't affect our operations: we will release more cables tonight as normal"
http://www.justiceforassange.com/
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Can someone correct me if I am wrong, but didn't he mention that he will release all the documents if he gets arrested?!
The lunatic is in my head
No, not Osama Bin Laden. Don't be silly.
They moved heaven and earth to get this guy. I think that shows us all, where their priorities lie.
...I hope it was worth it and he had a threesome with those two women.
I don't understand why you are modded up, you want to make the US a Shariah state? That would mean even less freedom, which is exactly what Julian A. is fighting against. Do you really think they would need something like an arrest warrant if the US became an Islamic dictatorship?
"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. "A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. "Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome." Sir Winston Churchill (The River War, first edition, Vol. II, pages 248-50, London: Longmans, Green Co., 1899).
I think I'll cast my vote (our method of stomping out morons such as yourself) for freedom and let each person decide their religion, lifestyle, etc. individually. Want to be a promiscuous man-whore...great, you're likely to die of any number of disease. These things have a way of sorting themselves out. Take you Shariah law with you on the way out of the US.
It's completely possible to like and dislike different aspects of the same person.
Assange has done something laudable with Wikileaks. For this he deserves out admiration. At the same time, he has problems with transgression in the sexual arena of his life, and he must answer for his crimes in Sweden. It is possible to see both aspects of the same person at the same time. Assange is human, like all of us, not some demigod beyond reproach.
But what politics does is insist we view him as an angel or a devil only. So many comments here insist that it is only possible to process the identity of Assange as an angel. It's silly. Just admire the man, and insist he pay for his crimes, at the same time. Can some of you do that please? He does not get a walk on his crimes because of the good he has done. Does OJ Simpson deserve to walk on murder charges because he was a celebrity? Obviously no. But he DID walk. Why? Because of the same psychology you see on display in the comments here: admiration for the man clouds your ability to keep different aspects of his life as separate in your judgment of the man.
So anyone who forgives Assange, or downplays his crimes: congratulations, you think just like the fools on the OJ Simpson jury that let OJ Simpson walk. Do you consider the fact that a jury let OJ Simpson walk an outrage? Good: then stop defending Assange, or otherwise, you are a hypocrite.
Look: Wikileaks will continue after Assange. And the facts of Assange's crucial role in Wikileaks creation will never go away and will always serve as his virtue. No matter what crimes Assange committed, he did something very good in Wikileaks, and he deserves our thanks for that. But he committed a crime in Sweden, so he must pay for it. BOTH realities are true.
The cause does not die. We are humans, and we are fallible, and we fail. But the cause goes on. Remember that, and don't whitewash Assange in your mind because you suffer from the same cult of personality delusions as the most shallow TMZ watcher.
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
Dude, are you drinking this early in the morning?
Trying to burn Karma?
Most Muslims I know mind to their own spiritual and moral life and aren't interested imposing their values on others - they love Western freedom. Unlike those states you mentioned, here in the West, they don't get harassed or killed of they're Sufi or whatever form of Islam they practice.
That form of "Islam" you refer to isn't Islam - it's really Saudi fucked up mental illness in the guise of Islam.
As a Muslim, I honestly think you should STFU.
Being such a nutjob on public forums just gives bad publicity to our religion.
Seriously, "righfully stoned" & "Sharia in the US"??? Get lost, and please stop using our religion as an excuse to be a prick.
Thank you.
Millions of people in the West lead sexually promiscuous appalling lives, and government does not give a flying arrest warrant
Unless one of those encounters claims that it was a sexual encounter by force, not by choice. I think rape is illegal in most Western nations.
(or let them free, as Polanski, for example)
What are you talking about? The country where he committed the alleged crimes issued the warrant but he was very crafty about avoiding arrest. The Swiss let him go because the U.S. failed to provide documents regarding his sentencing. I don't think he's welcome back in the United States though.
yet, in the case of the whistle blower, they go all Taliban on his ass.
Yeah, Taliban. I'm guessing you don't live under their rule.
Don't get me wrong, J.A. would be rightfully stoned in the Shariah state (in shaa'a Allah, one day it will come here, to US)
Advocating stoning without a trial? God willing, that will come to the USA? You know, people like you make it really easy for Glenn Beck to spread fear about Muslims. And you really make me, as an atheist, question the many times I have defended Muslims.
but in this case much more important that the Western hypocrisy is revealed itself in it's naked promiscuous ugly truth.
Seriously, go live in Iran. I don't care.
LOL, they've never made this much noise about the Talibans, or Bin Laden, or any other muslims.
Sharia will never come to the U.S. or anywhere else in the western world. It's a barbaric practice that has unfortunately infected millions of people. The call to kill the Christian woman and her family in Pakistan (which will most likely come to pass, alas) comes to mind here. Islam is frankly an immature religion, the equivalent of a murderous two-year old, where great offense is taken over nothing at all (drawing an image of muhammad), and where punishment is at its basest. Stonings? Beheadings? Ridiculous.
Far from feeling smug about your perceived high vantage point of "purity" over impure Western morals, you should realize that a large portion of Muslim society is the one that is depraved and, frankly, one of the necessary tasks for humanity is to rid itself of destructive memes such as radical Islam (and Christianity, for that matter).
Sharia will never be tolerated in enlightened Western societies. Why would we want to go backwards? Truly, it is only something that needs to be completely and utterly eradicated, as I'm sure it eventually will. "Inshallah."
Don't get me wrong, J.A. would be rightfully stoned in the Shariah state (in shaa'a Allah, one day it will come here, to US), but in this case much more important that the Western hypocrisy is revealed itself in it's naked promiscuous ugly truth.
Ma vaffanculo. You're just able to lapidate women. Hypocrites.
He's location is "unknown", but britsh and sweden authorities have access to him. That could very well mean that he's dead.
Rethinking email
expect him to 'disappear' as he is taken to one of the cia's black sites.
Women from all the world celebrate that they can now compalin to the interpol if their lovers choose to use no condom with the security that they will chase him with full resources in all the brave new world.
Millions of people in the West lead sexually promiscuous appalling lives, and government does not give a flying arrest warrant (or let them free, as Polanski, for example), yet, in the case of the whistle blower, they go all Taliban on his ass.
Don't get me wrong, J.A. would be rightfully stoned in the Shariah state (in shaa'a Allah, one day it will come here, to US), but in this case much more important that the Western hypocrisy is revealed itself in it's naked promiscuous ugly truth.
"Rightfully stoned"?
I'm sorry, but what people do on their own time doesn't matter a god damned bit. People who think otherwise are jealous of a world that is far better than the one that their restrictive and abusive take on religion allows them to see. You're simply projecting all of your hate and envy into this fake manifestation and using it as a license to hurt others. And you know it, too.
Humanity will be so much better when people like you are gone. Much of the hatred in the world is from fucking religious zealotry. Leave us alone. Go kill yourself for the crimes you yourself committed against your fake personalized god and stop harming people who have done nothing wrong. Or better yet, gain some perspective and become positive contributor to society. Go donate to a abused women shelter or feed some unfortunate homeless people.
Tell "your" Allah to go fuck himself. He's certainly fucking with you.
Two women scorned conspiring to get revenge on a cheating guy.
The "crime" is not RAPE. It is something else. Call it what it is or you are perpetuating the problem.
The Swiss account was CLOSED but the money in it is NOT confiscated.
Assange TURNED HIMSELF IN. To say he was arrested is technically accurate but does not depict the reality of the situation.
The media is strangely against Assange. He stands for everything the media is supposed to stand for. So not only has the media forgotten itself, it seems to actually combat its own principles.
Some might say that these are merely inaccuracies. When repeated in this way, it becomes lies. This stuff has got to stop.
Sexual promiscuity is not immoral, it is in fact completely natural.
What is immoral is transgression: when you go against the wishes of your sexual partner.
In the West, you can live the most debauched sexual life you want, without judgment, as long as anyone partaking of that lifestyle with you does so as a freely consenting equal adult. The principle concepts here are freedom and equality between the sexes. But as soon as you do something with someone by force, you are a criminal. There is no hypocrisy or contradiction here, as long as you understand the most important principles in play.
Meanwhile, it seems to many of us in the West that in the Muslim world (as well as in the conservative Jewish or fundamentalist Christian worlds as well) women are forced into lives by conservative religious and cultural teachings that are very much about coercion and force about how to behave, including violent punishments for choosing their own path. Therefore, we in the West view these conservative religious and cultural teachings as far more immoral than the most debauched orgy. Because we don't view the expression of simple natural human sexuality as a crime. But we view force and transgression against the notion of equality and freedom as a crime.
Women don't seem to be treated as equals by conservative religious and cultural teachings emanating from the traditional religious conservative societies in the Muslim world (or traditional Christian or Jewish worlds). This is immoral. These cultural and religious teachings to us are a form of transgression, in which the woman is not seen as an equal. And therefore, according to a morality that values freedom and equality, conservative Muslim, Christian, and Jewish teachings are immoral, where they devalue the lives and freedom of women.
Human sexuality is not a crime. Forcing someone to do something and not treating them as an equal is a a crime. In this regard, the way the conservative religious world (Muslim, Christian, or Jewish) treats woman is the real crime, and a woman in the West enjoying her completely natural sexuality is not in any way whatsoever criminal. Nor is there any logic whereby a woman or a man enjoying their natural sexuality is a crime.
So I ask you to stop judging human sexuality, and start judging the use of force against women into roles they did not choose of their own free will. In order to be a more moral person.
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
This is such a bummer.
Five people saying you're a dick, and you saying everyone EXCEPT YOU is a dick... those two statements don't have the same weight.
Errors in your post:
* Claiming he is wanted for suspicions of being promiscuous. He's not, so not trialing those millions is not an argument. Western justice systems do trial sex crimes all the time.
* Claiming the "West governments" are going after Assange and not Polanksi, when there are different jurisdictions in effect. Polanski was in France and Switzerland, Assange in the UK. Different jurisdictions, not different treatments by the same government.
* Claiming "sharia law will come to the US", which is ridiculous considering the Muslims in the US are less than 2.5% and many:
* Are native born
* Don't come from countries with Sharia law (e.g. India)
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The guy sure got extremely rapey after releasing all of this sensitive information. Must be because of the stress. Good thing Interpol is routinely looking into broken condom cases.
Read TFA. The money was not confiscated. The account was simply closed because he gave false information. He can get his money back just by sending his new account information to the Bank.
Oh get off it. In a shariah state both women would be stoned until dead and "J.A.", as you call him, would be elevated to public office.
I believe what you are saying is that we really can't be sure until USPS issues a stamp with their faces on it?
That IS the official protocol regarding moles, double agents and provocateurs, right?
However, Assange views Wikileaks as a tool to bring down Western governments (the U.S. in particular) that he views as "totalitarian".
what is the scare quotes used there for ? are you talking to a bunch of kids, or are you an idiot yourself ?
maintaining a 'free' storefront and doing freedom rhetoric, but, moving heaven on earth to prevent from finding out the truth, is not totalitarian ?
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Take your meds dear, you're frothing at the mouth again.
"Promiscuous" /= "sexual assault".
"This post is an artistic work of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact."
Assange doesn't hate the USA, Assange hates all governments. He's more like the archetypal anarchist from the late 1800s than your common garden variety USA hater in the world today.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/official-wikileaks-greatest-danger-loss-trust/story?id=12263971
What does that mean? Assange hates Brazil? No, Assange hates all authority. Next he's going after corporations, big banks. I heartily applaud that.
Assange is not anti-American. He hates the American government as much as any other government. He's a bomb thrower in the traditional anarchist sense of a century ago. He hates all authority.
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
I arrived as a foreigner in Switzerland well before 9/11, and was not permitted to open any bank account, nor sign any lease agreement, without first providing proof of a legitimate work or residency permit. The Swiss have had these requirements for a long time. Of course, the "private" banks have all manner of tricks of concealing sources of funds and owners, but that's not your average joe, nor your average bank balance, and at the time Julian opened his account, he certainly was still an average joe.
The comments below about the UBS/US kerfuffle are another matter altogether, nothing to do with a Post Office bank account, which was, unless Julian was a resident, an illegal action on his part. The gummint haven't taken his money - the Post Office have merely closed the account from any and all transactions, and will reimburse him every centime any time he asks for it.
If you value democracy then you should understand that the backlash from the WL episode will be a push for laws and technology to control communications at the direct expense of democratic ideals which require free speech. Anonymity and secure peer-to-peer communications, already at risk, will be further threatened under the premise of terrorism. If you want to help ensure that democracy prevails in the face of reactionary politics, then run a TOR server ( http://www.torproject.org/ ) now, and consider any of these alternatives.
Does this mean he turned himself in? That is, the police requested his presence at the station and arrested him when he arrived. Summary should have made that clearer. I (and perhaps most people here) was thinking they busted his door down and dragged him away. Not to imply that not doing so softens the image of the authorities or anything. I'd just never thought he'd turn himself in.
your thin skin doesn't make me a troll
"which is ridiculous " So, you know the future? Andalus was Christian, then Muslim, then Christian, then secular.
Population change with time and you do not know how it turned out. My expression was expression of religious belief, your expression is an expression of atheistic know-it-all arrogancy.
I do not believe in karma. "Funny"=-6. Do good and forbid evil. Yours, Oft-Offtopic Flamebaiting Troll.
I am glad nobody argues about hypocrisy. Show me one single case where a man would be prosecuted for broken condom...
I do not believe in karma. "Funny"=-6. Do good and forbid evil. Yours, Oft-Offtopic Flamebaiting Troll.
Fortunately, this will only lend more power to Assange's cause. Polls show that 70% of Americans approve of the leaks, and he is very widely considered to be a hero by many people. Imagine what would happen if that insurance file of his happens to be huge news, like evidence of 9/11 being an inside job or something. Just sayin'.
> Reason: Mastercard rules say you cannot use account for illegal activities.
This is just disgrace.
Facts:
1) Assange haven't been convicted for any crime and
it seems unlikely he will at most get only fined or something.
2) Do Mastercard cancel all accounts when its holder has committed some crime. I think not.
3) It is clear that this decision was made because of Assange's political activities.
The funny thing is there was an Mastercard advertisement
on the same page I read this news. No I really know who to trust to.
Character assassinating his accusers do nothing to help anyone. You post a lot in Assange threads, and I can tell you're a passionate supporter, but postings like this only undermine the public image of his support base.
your thin skin doesn't make me a troll
"Mistaking incompetence for evil is a common mistake. Politicians are often incompetent (true they are also often evil, but that is not the point). The CIA doesn't have to be involved for some politician to have reasons to take the guy down. It might be as simple as a craving public attention. Or it might even be a someone that thinks that, according to the intent of their laws, that not stopping when the condom breaks is rape." by jscotta44 (881299) on Tuesday December 07, @08:29AM (#34472340)
Well, well, look @ that: An 8 digit "Brand-New" registered user ID here and all - and, you're not some "spin-control" plant put here to keep things "under control"? Please... give us a break!
Plus, per the person you replied to? The girls involved didn't raise a stink, and yet suddenly, it's a suddenly created new law that was just made apparently? "Gee, I wonder why" (not). The timing's a little TOO convenient, especially since it involved Julian Assange, and targets him, directly!
(It really doesn't take a brain to figure out that Assange is being targetted by those his leaked cables threaten to expose anymore than it does to see you here executing "spin-control" P.R. crap either!)
Do you think you & yours really "fool anyone"? Oh, yes, I keep forgetting that "you & yours" think the public are sheep to be easily led.
'As a white middle-class suburban teenager going through that rebellious phase'
FTFY.
If they are, where did my €20 just went?
I really thought that allegory was headed in a totally different direction.
Postfinance (not a bank, but that's a detail) merely shut down Assanges account and is ready to transfer the money to an account named by Assange. CuteSteveJobs, please read the articles you link to before making false summaries.
all that bastardry, all that treachery, villainery, corruption, double dealing, betrayal of high principles, bullying, killing people, torturing people, greed, then justifying all these in the name of 'freedom' and calling it democracy, and WE, as 'the people', bearing the brunt of all this,
and afterwards we are expected to be calm and serene.
why.
really, why ?
are we mazoschists ? or, are we morons so that we will do nothing to the people who undo millions of others for their own tiny profit, so they will just keep doing that over and over, and we pay for it ?
"they are exploiting, repressing, suppressing, lying, deceiving us, but, see, i am calm, for some fucking unknown reason, i am STILL calm"
is it ?
no i wouldnt say that calm, i would say either idiot, or mazoschist. or, keep staying calm. so that you are exploited forever in that calmness.
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i would not want the u.s. to do ANYthing. for, ANYthing they are doing is being detrimental to both the world and their own citizens.
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Considering that in the last few days Wikileaks has violated it's promise not to name names and put people in danger, this is a positive development.
Furthermore Assange's recent "threats" to reveal fully uncensored information are damaging to long term Internet freedom. What do you think is more likely: that governments will be blackmailed into leaving him alone, or that they will pass laws in the future to permit an easier takedown of sites like Wikileaks? And once those laws are passed, you know they will be used more widely than originally intended.
Maybe now we will know what is in the insurance file... http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5723136/WikiLeaks_insurance
thomasdamgaard.dk.
He clearly has a personal problem with Assange, and while he might have a modicum of arguments to criticize that organization, they sound quite a bit like post facto rationalization of his personal feelings to me.
It's good to know when they put their minds to it, the US government can get results. I just wish they would do it for the good of the nation and its people and not just to save their own greedy asses.
Actually, it seems that certain elements of the media are against him. Strangely, these seem to be the right wing, pro-strong government sections of the media. Especially those owned by Murdoch.
You don't know that. It's all conspiracy theory-grade guessing, made to fit your own preconceived notions. If it isn't the feminist conspiracy, it's the american conspiracy, or maybe both. Until we get to hear both sides directly, noone but Assange and the women know.
Also, there are reports that when Assange had sex with the women and they asked him to stop, he didn't. That makes it non-consecual sex and a crime. No violence needed.
But thank you for revlealing yourself to be a total misogynist. Now we now.
Quoting a high lord of a monarchy that ruled the world at the point of a gun, treated millennial cultures as "savages" and "lower beings" isn't exactly proving anything except his own and his society's 19th century prejudices and institutionalized racism.
FFS Just using "slovenly" as a derogatory word insults half the population of Europe.
And as for "every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property" - how old was Churchill in 1899 when The River War was published? 2?
Cause, by Jingo, I can't see how else he could muster such audacity to "call the kettle black".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_women's_rights_(other_than_voting)
1870: Great Britain: Legal majority for unmarried women; this law is improved in 1874, 1882, and in 1893.
1873: Britain: Mothers are granted guardianship for children at divorce. Custody of Infants Act 1873.
1876: Great Britain: Women formally allowed to study.
1878: Great Britain: Abuse is recognized as grounds for divorce.
1882: Great Britain: Married women are granted separate economy and legal majority (Married Women's Property Act 1882).
1886: Britain: Josephine Butler puts a stop to the prostitution reglement. (Read up on that one - up until then age of consent was 13 in the UK.)
1919: Great Britain: The Sex Disqualification (Removal) Act 1919.
1928: Women received the vote on equal terms as men (over the age of 21) as a result of the Representation of the People Act 1928. And there is whole other timeline regarding that.
Hmm... Could it also be that he was a racist asshole.
Indian independence
See also: Simon Commission and Government of India Act 1935
Churchill opposed Mohandas Gandhi's peaceful disobedience revolt and the Indian Independence movement in the 1930s, arguing that the Round Table Conference "was a frightful prospect".[91] Later reports indicate that Churchill favoured letting Gandhi die if he went on a hunger strike.[92] During the first half of the 1930s, Churchill was outspoken in his opposition to granting Dominion status to India. He was a founder of the India Defence League, a group dedicated to the preservation of British power in India. Churchill brooked no moderation. "The truth is," he declared in 1930, "that Gandhi-ism and everything it stands for will have to be grappled with and crushed."[93] In speeches and press articles in this period he forecast widespread unemployment in Britain and civil strife in India should independence be granted.[94] The Viceroy Lord Irwin, who had been appointed by the prior Conservative Government, engaged in the Round Table Conference in early 1931 and then announced the Government's policy that India should be granted Dominion Status. In this the Government was supported by the Liberal Party and, officially at least, by the Conservative Party. Churchill denounced the Round Table Conference.
At a meeting of the West Essex Conservative Association specially convened so Churchill could explain his position he said, "It is alarming and also nauseating to see Mr Gandhi, a seditious Middle-Temple lawyer, now posing as a fakir of a type well-known in the East, striding half-naked up the steps of the Vice-regal palace... to parley on equal terms with the representative of the King-Emperor."[95] He called the Indian National Congress leaders "Brahmins who mouth and patter principles of Western Liberalism".[96]
Two incidents damaged Churchill's reputation greatly within the Conservative Party in this period. Both were taken as attacks on the Conservativ
Interesting fact: Nothing non-consensual happened in this case whatsoever. It's rape in name only.
Good advice: Don't sleep with feminazis. When you're on the run from the law, stay away from authoritarian surveillance states with extradition treaties located on islands.
Off-topic note: Whoa Assange looks way more manly in the pic in that article than shaven with long hair. A badass, handsome man's man? These are the ingredients for a man crush my friend.
"When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
beakerMeep, careful your bias is showing.
"evidence based on the latest rebuttal posted by a Slashdot AC"
beakerMeep you have very evidently used a straw man argument, where you have intentionally misrepresented the argument and then tried to belittle your misrepresentation. You ignored the AC gave a web link to an English translation of a Swedish newspaper article, referring to "The web site newzglobe.com published an article in Swedish today confirming Anna Ardin as one of the women who accused Assange for rape." ... Anna Ardin is ... "The political secretary of the Swedish Christian Socialdemocrats"
I should also add that history of government spying shows that kind of role in a political group is precisely the kind of role a government spy would be put into to spy on Socialist plans and campaigns.
Also spies have been used in so called Honey Traps (The fact we even have the phrase "Honey Trap" for such behaviour shows people do know about such behaviour).
Also Assange's lawyer has said for some time they have been followed, so that highlights all the Interpol manhunt stories as complete rubbish as the governments knew where he was all the time, so the manhunt stories are just for the media to make us think he is this big criminal that must be hunted down. This is a Honey Trap, pure and simple, to take him down any way they can.
Although whatever they do to him, it doesn't change the fact we have now had our suspicions confirmed that our so called government representatives lie endlessly to us and so don't really represent us, they actually work against us, and all the time they are continuing to impose ever more authoritarian control over us (again working against us and we have already had years of them doing this to us all). The more we all see, the more this is turning into a battle for freedom of speech (something we should already have in a Democracy! .. but then they are showing its not really a Democracy because their wishes don't really represent the wishes of the people!). (Don't ever forget 3 million had access to that info, so all countries must have at least one spy to get all this info for their country, so they all know what the other side does and thinks of them!, so the only people who don't know what has been happening is all of us!. THEREFORE WE ARE THE REAL PEOPLE THEY TRY TO KEEP THEIR SECRETS FROM! They lie to us so they can do whatever they want. That also shows up all their media protests as lies, yet more lies where they try to say diplomatic work cannot continue in the open, its all a lie, because they already know what is going on, its us they keep in the dark!. We are the ones the secrets and lies are used against!. So all of this is just going to continue to build public anger against the people in power.
Alas, I ate all my points already.
we know that. internet has circulated with the blog post, and the routes the two woman took, going to police only after discovering that the guy slept with both of them, plainly states the fact.
the 'reports' that say when assange didnt stop, when told to stop (probably deep in penetration), are from the mouths of the women he slept with.
that is, leaving aside the hilarious fact that, the biology of human orgasm makes the male unable to stop, moving like motor-reflex like functions during sex intercourse. which is what the nature designed the male/female mechanic on this planet.
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There have been no charges for rape in Sweden as far as I'm aware, but still that's what all newspapers are touting.
What exactly are the charges against him?
so you are naive and not too deep in your observations .... here :
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1899690&cid=34473606
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no, im talking as a citizen. and that is my personal opinion about the women involved, since a long time.
they are of the same character that betrays their ideals for selfish purposes.
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The US no longer stands for freedom. Not in any way. Maybe 200 years ago, but not now. In fact, with the recent DHS/TSA fiasco we may be one of the least free countries on the planet. "I am going to squeeze your balls, citizen. You are permitted to cough. Resistance is futile." USA = Police State. Time to wake up, comrade.
Quite an experience to live in fear, isn't it? That's what it is to be a slave.
Media is against him because he's cutting into their business, for free.
Democrats or Republicans. They are both taking us to the same place and they are not afraid of us anymore.
http://www.google.com/search?q=wikileaks+accuser+linked+to+cia&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
7 Dec 2010 ... Wikileaks Assange 'Rape' Accuser Linked To Notorious CIA Operative Swedish prosecutors told AOL News last week that Assange was not wanted ....
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Assange has been "remanded in custody" (i.e. refused bail), pending a hearing on December 14th.
I'm scared for these women, what will happen to them once 'Anonymous' and other internet mobs manage to get their real identities?
1) It weren't centralized. Tor can be taken down with coordinated action against its auth servers by a handful of governments.
2) It was faster. Tor was basically only intended for web pages, and simple ones at that. It chokes on large multimedia stuff.
3) It weren't anti-P2P... which should be a big no-no in any activists book.
4) It could offer some kind of automatic redundancy/mirroring.
Tor is starting to look antiquated / inadequate because it was designed based on assumptions from 1999.
I suggest you try I2P at the link below where you can get access to anything Wikileaks has published, anonymously and relatively quickly.
It is what happens to slashdotters. When they have sex, it is suprising.
Or for the girl involved, depressing. If I was a woman and found myself having have had sex with a nerd, I would call the cops too. Somethings just can't go unpunished?
Not funny? No indeed, the entire collapse of our illusion of freedom is NOT funny.
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
Millions of people in the West lead sexually promiscuous appalling lives
As do millions of Muslims, don't kid yourself.
As I understand it, some of Mohammad's many wives were as young as nine years old.
Also, as I understand it, Iran has more google searches for stuff like bestiality, than any other nation.
Also, as I understand, Muslim nations tend to unbelievable backwards, and brutal.
I guess "The founder of WikiLeaks, Julian Assange, has been arrested by London police on behalf of Swedish authorities on allegation of rape." sounds more juicy than:
"After an arrest warrant was issued for Julian Assange in England, he (likely at the advice from his lawyer) turned himself in."
Sure technically he was arrested, just the little detail that he turned himself in and submitted himself. It wasn't as if the police just found him in a raid or something...
String the filthy Jew bastard up.
The US and the WEST in general remain the beacon of hope and freedom
Assange is clearly being arrested on trumped-up charges. This is nothing but a 100% unprovable case of he-said-she-said. Since when does Interpol become involved in such a case? Since when do we have a massive international man-hunt over something like that? This stinks to high-heaven and you know it.
And why now? Wikileaks has been around 2006, but it has not been until banks were threatened that it became such a BFD.
I thing the US and West would have more credibility if they acted more properly.
The dude is 39, what is he doing chasing tail? Settle down already. Just cause you were a nerd in your 20s and didn't know you were supposed to get laid is no excuse.
This is just more of the security theater we have all come to love. First of all I think we should question why most of these secret documents were secret in the first place. Is it really a surprise to anyone that Iran’s neighbors don’t want them to have nukes. I’m sure Canada and Mexico would be happier if the US didn’t have huge stockpiles of nukes and God knows what else. Wikileaks and Julian Assange are not doing anything wrong, the government officials just don’t like to be seen as fools. How much trouble would it be to just not say things that might be insulting to people, or at least not to write them down. If I did something like this I would be called unprofessional, they scream about being caught and how some “traitor” has betrayed the country. I agree that some things need to be kept under wraps for a time, but when you make everything a secret people are bound to open their mouths up, particularly when the things you are trying to hide make you look foolish or if the person judges them to be immoral. Wikileaks is performing a valuable service bringing these things to the forefront. As to the sexual allegations against Mr. Assange, I seem to recall several US Presidents being accused of promiscuity.
Looks to me like the authorities are grasping for straws for some excuse to arrest the guy. Was this alleged misconduct even recent?
That certainly isn't in the referenced article - where do you find that she appealed to him to stop and he did not?
Sweden Issues Warrant for WikiLeaks Founder
By JOHN F. BURNS and RAVI SOMAIYA
Published: November 18, 2010
The money quote:
According to accounts the women gave to the police and friends, they each had consensual sexual encounters with Mr. Assange that became nonconsensual. One woman said that Mr. Assange had ignored her appeals to stop after a condom broke. The other woman said that she and Mr. Assange had begun a sexual encounter using a condom, but that Mr. Assange did not comply with her appeals to stop when it was no longer in use.
The big problem that I see is that there's some media right now whose "reporting" is basically repeating Assange's lawyers' statements at length.
Are you adequate?
Sounds like the typical love triangle to me. Everyone was all yeah and happy until the women started scheming. Sorry but that's pretty typical outcome in my experience.
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I would like males out there to consider that all this talk about motor reflexes and lack of control is silly. The only explanation I can find is that people consider 'sex' to only be the part when you are finally past the gates, hip-deep in the well, and within moments of giving up the seed.
Anyhow, I don't use birth control with my partners and have been faithfully pulling out all my adult life. Give it a try sometime. Forget about your own biological imperative - put it off even - and I'm guessing both you and your partners will be pleasantly surprised at your new found attention to detail.
I'm also guessing that the amount of actual fucking will decrease as your lady starts to seek sexual contact without wanting the mess and intensity of having a cock throb off inside her belly. It really is amazing how many five minute asides can be fit into a busy day, and how hot a woman gets when you let her keep her panties firmly in place and leave her nipples unmolested.
It's almost like she starts thinking you are hot for HER and not her doll parts ;)
Anyhow, all this talk isn't helping or hurting Julian - but it has probably spooked a large number of women. It is kinda scary to think about half the species losing self control at the touch of a bit of skin... It is also a myth unless you choose to make it true or (I would imagine) legitimately fucking for immediate survival.
1) If Assange had actually done anything illegal by posting leaks he would have been arrested for it.
2) I think it's quite possible that one or more governments cyrpto arms have already broken the insurance file.
My wikileaks tweets are either suppressed or delayed long enough that I lose hope of ever finding them. If you use a twitter app then there's a chance your tweet will be searchable. Interestingly enough, "Assange Arrested" trended for a quite a bit today! So we know where Twitter's interest lies.
Great now there are crazy-ass Muslim fundies on Slashdot. Just great...
Why don't you go join up with the Taliban in their caves, where they don't have computers.
"When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
It looks like you need a lot more than $37K in a Swiss bank account to stay a threat to the US Military/Industrial/Banking complex. Probably helps if your threats mean $TRILLIONS in war/intel budgets.
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http://dailycaller.com/2010/12/06/leftist-bloggers-point-to-cia-connections-in-assange-rape-case/
I'm not a lawyer, but I play one on the Internet. Blog
How can she tell it broke? You know, the vag is quite sensitive, but I don't think it's quite sensitive enough to note when a very thin piece of rubber gets a hole in it before culmination.
Not so long ago a guy was tortured and killed because he plotted to act against the "state". This is just another 5th of November...
The actions of MasterCard, PayPal, Amazon etc. are examples of the privatization of the suppression of dissent. The US, British, and French governments have been unable to legally do anything about Wikileaks and are likely to be unable to anything legally, because they have not committed a crime. The publication of leaked documents is not a crime. Instead like incarceration, many military and police operations, and security, suppression of undesirable information has been privatized. These companies have taken it upon themselves to enforce the new corporate order. Right now this suits the governments program, maybe later it won't.
It takes many daring leaps of logic, however, to get from there to "'take your dick out of my pussy' means I can continue."
Are you adequate?
Though these charges do not involve him posting the stolen documents, I am glad to see him in custody and hope he stays there a very, very long time.
Just like the fair trial of the operators of the torrent search engine called pirate bay, eh?
He did deal with the charges when he was still in Sweden. He offered on multiple occasions to come in for interrogation and asked if he was free to leave the country before he left.
And we know that's true because Assange's lawyers said it!
Are you adequate?
Did you notice that to make sure no one saw the story, they even made sure the arrest took place on the SAME DAY as the launch of WoW Cataclysm? That's how bad they wanted this one to fly under the radar.
Yeah, they love it to pieces...
You understand shit.
I do not believe in karma. "Funny"=-6. Do good and forbid evil. Yours, Oft-Offtopic Flamebaiting Troll.
Given that a condom breaking is relatively low probability event if he wasn't being setup and relatively high probability event if he was being set up, the fact that there was a broken condom points to him being setup.
idiot, it is the status you are in. of course, its understandable, for, in order to see that one may need a long education in finance, and a hobby of history reading to complement it, and having friends, colleagues in important career positions in global megacorporations. so, you may lack these, and therefore come up believing the bullshit you are fed because you cant see the backside of what is being fed you.
but actually, one can do even without these. for, for a sufficiently dedicated researcher, there is enough material on the internet to make out the interest relationships and the conglomerates that span the world.
no, its not conspiracy. its shareholdership information, stake ownership, financial partnerships. they are all legitimate, officially declared and audited information that shows who owns what and who.
only the morons who have a half-assed dedication to using their brain can fall for the multiple branding, and think that there is actually competition, more than one interest in any given economy/country.
the truth is whatever you see, end up being owned by a few conglomerate interest holderships. these are not hidden information. they are all declared in balance sheets and income statements to public. but public, naive fools like you, do not get interest in these boring financial details. however they are actually the info which shows who owns you. it goes through dozens of proxy companies and international partnerships, but their ownership ends up in the few individuals.
you are as free as any middle ages english serf, who thought they were free, because, unlike the ones in france, they were sometimes allowed to move and migrate, and own small lots of land. compared to french serfs who could not move and own land by purchase, they thought themselves free. however, wherever they moved, they fell under the rule of one of the 5 major dukes ruling england.
you are similar to them. you can move, and change where you live, and own small property, but you will still be owned by any of the 5-10 dukes owning whatever country you are in.
the only difference is that, the king is now elected from among the patricians which these dukes support. and you think that is freedom.
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Now the tricky part for him is to avoid drinking any tea. The CIA has polonium, too, and its access to UK justice system facilities is virtually unrestricted.
I would like males out there to consider that all this talk about motor reflexes and lack of control is silly. The only explanation I can find is that people consider 'sex' to only be the part when you are finally past the gates, hip-deep in the well, and within moments of giving up the seed.
there is a point after which the movement becomes hysterical. it is what is designed to increase the speed of the mating so that it will result in ejaculation, and hopefully pregnancy, by nature.
it is also the reason why the mating is too short, unfortunately, opposite to what we would desire. all the effort there is designed for the ejaculation part for pregnancy. nature wanted to make sure pregnancy happens, and the process does not get interrupted by either party losing interest due to any reason or other kinds of urges, desires, overcoming the mating process at its final stages.
you should file your complaints with nature. you cant change biology and physiology with political correctness. blunt reality of life.
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Dutch PowNed runs its own mirror. Major newspapers work closely together with Wikileaks on the leaks to properly redact them.
So most US media and the BBC and the NOS have shown their true colors. Nobody in their right mind trusted those anyway.
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
Why so much success in arresting some guy who had sex with a broken condom, but no success what so ever in arresting a pedophile rapist like Roman Polanski?
as perpetrated in other countries
now, make believe the usa disappeared into a lake tomorrow
do you believe anything you have written in your list of the crimes of the usa would stop?
#1: if the usa aids a government or a faction operating in a foreign country, that government or faction will still exist, and still perpetrate those crimes
#2: russia, china, india, brazil... other countries besides the usa are meddling in foreign governments just as much as the usa
you only hold the usa guilty for what every country does. you don't see that the crimes you hate the usa for are really the crimes of all governments
if the usa disappears, nothing changes about every crime you dislike. the foreign factions the usa supports will not collapse, because they are not solely the puppets of the usa. they have domestic support, within the countries they operate in. sure, some factions may lose if the usa disappears. probably because the factions they fight, still enjoy the support of china, or iran, or russia, etc. but you don't hold those other countries also guilty of foreign meddling. you only hold the usa guilty. why is that?
crimes that are committed by partisans in other countries may enjoy the support of the usa. or maybe another country. or maybe no foreign support at all, you just believe the usa supports them, because it fits your low iq fanciful prejudices
every country in the world messes internally with every other country. as soon as you understand that, you may continue to prosecute the usa for its crimes... and russia, and china, etc... if it is in your interest to be intellectually honest and adhere to your principles
rather than atavistically single out and hate the usa alone, for simple common tribal prejudicial reasons that makes you a person of no value in this world, since people who think simplistically and tribally like you are a dime a dozen, whether for or against the usa. the tribal idiots balance each other out in this world. only people with genuine principles, who adhere to them logically and internally in the words they write, only such people matter in this world. you are obviously not such a person, because you only prosecute the usa for crimes which are not unique to the usa, nor even obviously the cause of the usa. you only have creative and fanciful and dumb ways of explaining why certain things are solely the cause of the usa, just because the usa supports a faction, gives them aid, or even just talks to them: suddenly the usa is completely culpable for every bad thing that faction does. and then you ignore what russia, china, etc. are doing internationally. insanity and stupidity
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
Extrapolation not a good idea. The Daily Mail, by no means the most nutso paper in the UK, is pretty extremely biased. To find the happy middle ground, you need to find some paper so extremely biased in the other direction.
Outside of special interests rags like University Newsletters and Communist Party newsletters, you won't find someone as extremely biased the other way.
Or, in other words, the accurate medium may be between Daily Mail and The Guardian, but I can guarantee you that on ANYTHING, it will be a lot closer to the guardian than the daily mail.
This "the truth is in the middle" meme is also a problem because the nuts (e.g. Daily Mail) can win their argument by going FURTHER to the extreme than their real position and then getting, if not their real position, something closer than if they'd stated their position honestly.
And so the most insane people win the argument.
I'm glad I donated via the "Wau Holland Stiftung", rather than wiring directly to his Swiss account, this one still seems to be intact.
The "Wau Holland Stiftung" is the 3rd option on his donation page.
Assange was denied bail, and it sounds like he will be held for 60 days before extradition.
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2010/1207/Why-Britain-is-likely-to-send-WikiLeaks-Assange-to-Sweden-on-rape-charges
"The ability to delude yourself may be an important survival tool" - Jane Wagner -
For anyone not familiar with the term: "hydrophobia" is another name for rabies
The Swiss Government has confiscated $37K in his Swiss Bank account.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101206/ap_on_re_us/wikileaks
"Swiss bank freezes Julian Assange's account". A real Swiss Bank never
does such things. I don't know about Postfinance, but for Swiss banks
there's only one exception in such matters, and that is when the
'client' has made remarks or moves which has endangered the Zionist
Community, just as happened with Bobby Fischer in Rekyavik. After
arriving in Iceland in 2006, the UBS Bank of Switzerland confiscated all of
Fischer's savings. UBS for the first time showed its real face, instead
of the polished face of independent banking.
UBS and the Icelandic government collude to plunder all of Bobby's savings account at UBS
http://crashrecovery.org/home.att.ne.jp/moon/fischer/index.html
Unless it contains detailed documentation proving that Dick Cheney along with members of the CIA/NSA and the Military Industry Complex conspired with Israel and the Moussad to create 9/11.
I can not fathom what harm it could cause to make anyone think twice.
Fixed that for you. The "reporters" at most media outlets are just jealous that he and his staff are doing what they can't: reporting real, hard-hitting truth. Why can't they? Because the media moguls that sign their paychecks are part of the ruling elite that stand to lose a lot if these leaks get unbiased public attention without a spin in favor of the oligarchy.
Their activism involves a CIA-organization that works against Castero. So they have ties to CIA.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_Manning
Manning was arrested by agents of the U.S. Army Criminal Investigation Command in May 2010 and held in pre-trial confinement in a military jail at Camp Arifjan in Kuwait.[1][2][3] On July 5, 2010, two misconduct charges were brought against him for "transferring classified data onto his personal computer and adding unauthorized software to a classified computer system" and "communicating, transmitting and delivering national defense information to an unauthorized source".[2][7] The charges included unauthorized access to Secret Internet Protocol Routers network computers, download of more than 150,000 United States Department of State diplomatic cables, download of a classified PowerPoint presentation, and downloading a classified video of a military operation in Baghdad on July 12, 2007. Manning is also charged for forwarding the video and at least one of the cables to an unauthorized person.[15] The maximum jail sentence is 52 years.[1]
Manning faces a pretrial hearing under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, following which his lawyer expects a court-martial in the spring of 2011.[8][1]
Worth noting that this morning there is no Wikileaks.org to be found in Mexico. At least thru the Alestra ISP, DNS cannot resolve the name and hence they are inaccessible. Big Brother is triumphant?
Oh, no. The crime IS rape. Haven't you read the checklist?
http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Rape_Checklist
I suggest you read "confessions of an economic hitman", because if you had you would not have made such an incorrect assertion as:
"you imagine the usa has these vast powers over governments and people outside its borders that simply. do. not. exist. really, they don't exist"
That's what makes these leask interesting; looking for evidence in which those attached to the mission act on behalf of the Chamber of Commerce and its constituency.
resist propaganda
Be careful about grouping all news organizations together as "the media". That's the kind of mental shortcut that makes it easy to manipulate public opinion. Someone might say "the media" is in the Obama Administration's pocket? Would they be including Fox? Would they then fallback to the "liberal media"? "The mainstream media"?
I've been reading The New York Times coverage of this story for awhile and I haven't felt like they were against Assange.
I'm not trying to be pedantic or nit-picky here. I think it's very important to not fall prey to oversimplifications that are much too freely used in discussions today. And for the record I have felt like "NBC Nightly News" and the other two major network nightly newscasts seemed strangely against Assange as you so correctly point out.
New slogan: :P
Apple and Fox News for Nerds, does that stuff matter?
6. Repeat if necessary
The media, quite simply was bought long ago. People were so scared that government would absorb business than they didn't realize it when business absorbed government. This is a corporatocrazy now, the government and big media are one and the same, with all the bad implications that entails.
But... the future refused to change.
The media is strangely against Assange. He stands for everything the media is supposed to stand for. So not only has the media forgotten itself, it seems to actually combat its own principles.
People get pissed off if you show the world they suck at doing their job, and it's not that hard to do it right. I mean, here's one guy who started a corporation that's outshining all of the newspapers and television stations without big corporate backing, and he's managed to do so in only a few short years.
Look up "post-penetration rape", which is what Assuage is accused of. This is a relatively new legal concept. In the US, a few states consider that illegal. Most don't. Does Sweden?
Obama may be president, but seeing that he's following Bush's footsteps: Julian, enjoy your stay at Guantanamo!
There's plenty of recreation like getting electrocuted, making man-pyramids, and sleep deprivation.
Is it legal? No. Is it necessary? Of course not. But we do it anyway, because we have savages running the show.
At least Obama won't outright execute him, which Bush definitely would have. But I'm not expecting much better.
Excellent song by a UK comedian which summarises this nicely.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eBT6OSr1TI
You're only saying that because we have the highest number of people in jail per capita (higher than Russia and China). Let freedom ring!
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"The media is strangely against Assange. He stands for everything the media is supposed to stand for. So not only has the media forgotten itself, it seems to actually combat its own principles."
-- Not strange at all. He's embarrassing them as much as he is embarrassing governments by showing what a worthless pile of idiotic yes-men they are. They get off quite well at status quo and he has to come along and ruin it for them all. Maybe they'll even be forced to be real journalists after this. Doubtful.
but it's worth noting here that being a longtime activist would be good cover for an agent.
Therefore it MUST BE TRUE!!!!!!!
Is that enough exclamation points? I have more. !!!!!! See? :-)
The principle of proportionality. Remember that revenge will not only match the deed in size but also in nature. A good revenge is linked to what has been done against you.
Bullshit. The best revenge is one that stuns the target into an eternal state of "WTF?!" and guarantees that the target will never give cause for revenge ever again.
Surely the fact that he turned himself in is worth mentioning in this paragraph ...
Guess they should bring rape charges against Bin laden too?
Your doing it wrong speedy.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
Sadly, it's more probable that he will team up with the AC that constantly rails against "Niggers". (Gawd I hate that AC. He's such a douche.)
And we know that's true because Assange's lawyer told us!
Are you adequate?
I recall reading it in the news at the time.
The media is strangely against Assange. He stands for everything the media is supposed to stand for. So not only has the media forgotten itself, it seems to actually combat its own principles.
I'm guessing this is for the same reason why many people side with a bully or stand quiet instead of speaking up for the bullied: Fear of becoming the target themselves. By distancing themselves from Wikileaks and avoiding to call it a journalistic organisation, media hope to escape restrictions of the freedom of press potentially being applied to them, when politicians and others go after Wikileaks.
Of course, as in the case with bullying, the only reason it can continue is because people who don't agree with it don't stand up against it.
Yes, there seems to be a blog post about revenge from one of the women. Suspicious at most, but it still proves absolutely nothing.
That men are unable to stop having sex once they've started is the lamest excuse I've heard in a long time. You're just making excuses for men who don't care about consent. The misogyny continues.
Why are we accepting the attacks on wikileaks seemingly being tied to their founder who isn't the organization but the man being targeted? It seems that all these attacks on the organization are being smoke screened by the founder's personal problems (due to his involvement in the group and volunteering to be the frontman/target for it.)
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...some inmate of a swedish prison will find strange letters on the wall saying something like 'a738f92dfd009ff3d8aab51'.
USA orders the Swedish peasants to find something to take him out; every nation has crazy laws on something. They find their rape laws are really easy and the bonus is that they looks bad; "The master (USA) will be pleased..."
Then they find some women (somehow) to decide to turn against him and even if it is not true, they can pressure those women to give evidence against him-- Remember, if the SWEDISH GOVERNMENT can be forced certainly they can force a few women to go along enough to get him into court. The can make anybody 'regret' having ever known him... Even if dropped they get a smokescreen and propaganda from it. Remember, it didn't work initially until they found the right Swedish stooge to play along.
Read some of the leaks, the USA heavily pressures others to do its bidding against all laws,ethics,morals of their own country on issues that are FAR WORSE than just nailing a foreigner on rape charges.
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If you only you could realize that your attitude is what give Islam a bad name, not being affiliated to any religion at all, I just wish people like you just shut up and don't try to force your views into anyone else.
Also, Sharia law in USA? Andalus? That happened hundreds of years ago when you didn't have too much of a choice regarding the religion in the place where you were living. The only natural next-step for ALL religions in the world is to disappear once and for all. No, I'm not atheist I believe in God I just don't care about the various bureaucracy schools around him/her/it
Not being an American I can't see how USA would accept something like Sharia Law, I mean, Next someone is going to give us their "expression of religious belief" and propose child defilement. Sharia Law and child defilement are things very well related in that they go against basic human rights.
Or maybe you're just reverse-trolling so people hate Islam. Anyway STFU
there are no societal norms about what goes on in the bedroom, because society isn't in your bedroom. there are societal norms about workplace behavior, telephone etiquette, driving rules, etc: arenas in life that involve public social interaction
but what happens in the privacy of your own bedroom is something society has nothing to do with, knows nothing about, and has no moral or logical reason to know about or judge. the whole purpose to society and morality is to govern our behavior in civil situations. in private, there are no norms to follow save what you want to do and what you don't want to do. if you don't want to do something, don't do it. if someone forces you to do something in the bedroom, THEN you have reason to complain publicly, as your right to freedom and equality has just been violated. otherwise, society has no right or reason to judge or interfere
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
That men are unable to stop having sex once they've started is the lamest excuse I've heard in a long time.
you are either not a man, or havent had sex yet. or, you are not sexually mature.
this is an evolutionary design. the pregnancy needs to be ensured. ejaculation is the means to do it. it should take place as soon as possible, from nature's view.
considering the monkeys which are these bodies evolved from were nested in trees at the start, and had to mate among branches, hanging about.
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would that it were so, i used to think that way when i was 10 as well. but thanks to pvc Manning and wikileaks we have yet more incontrovertible proof that you are extremely clueless.
look sig is kool
Having sex is not immoral, and is completely natural. Jumping from partner to partner is a series of one-night stands or short term relationships is harmful. It is an addictive behavior where the person involved does it to get a momentary high, then is left feeling empty afterward. People who engage are often in denial about the consequences their actions (either to themselves or to others).
One thing that people who engage in this behavior like to point out is that the people on the side of "sexual morality" often have it even worse. They get over involved in relationships early on and are stuck with a bad marriage for years which ends in a contentious divorce. Or they spend their entire lives chasing after the illusion of an ideal relationship that is unattainable. Or they join a religious following that encourages them to blow themselves up to advance someone's political agenda. The problem with this thinking is that simply pointing out that the other person is more wrong than you, does not prove that what you are doing is right.
The claim of "casual sex" is dangerous because it is hard to draw from ones experience an example of it working out well (I am speaking from my own experience). And from a logical perspective, it doesn't make sense to claim that sex is no big deal and then expend a lot of energy and endure a number of risks to pursue it.
Anna Ardin does appear to have been on the U.S. payroll for anti-Communist activities though
there is your evidence of prostitution. professional to boot.
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Reading the article, the second woman that appears out of the blue looks nothing else but a CIA job.
The media doesnt want to know their lack of credibility is what made alternatives like wikileaks a reality
Julian Assange’s chief accuser in Sweden has a significant history of work with anti-Castro groups, at least one of which is US funded and openly supported by a former CIA agent convicted in the mass murder of seventy three Cubans on an airliner he was involved in blowing up.
http://my.firedoglake.com/kirkmurphy/2010/12/04/assanges-chief-accuser-has-her-own-history-with-us-funded-anti-castro-groups-one-of-which-has-cia-ties/
It's no use, they have Internet enabled cellphones.
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From what I gather, the condom actually broke during intercourse with one of the women and Mr Assange was asked to stop, and he didn't.
They always taught me that when I got a flat, I was supposed to pull over to the side of the road and decelerate slowly. Perhaps they just didn't give him a chance.
Have gnu, will travel.
Visa says it has suspended all payments to WikiLeaks pending an investigation of the organization's business.
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2010/12/07/wikileaks_17/index.html
Muslims are migrating Everywhere but their own spacious home countries. Your attitude is the reason for that. It's your religion, it's the reflection in Your mirror, it's the food you eat, it's because someone else is having a better day than you, it's because you don't have time in your busy schedule to do the things you want to do: you just blame everyone else but yourselves.
Is this why Muslims are emigrating, because they want to bring their culture to the rest of the world: how you are justified more than the hosting countries that TOLERATE your kind, or is it because you think the countries that ALLOW your kind to emigrate into them are examples of broken mis-managed infidels fighting amongst eachother?
What's it going to be? You aren't here to be peaceful, not even say anything good of what WHITE cultures and societies accomplished while Islam continually cuts-off and decapitates the verry inspirations that their STRUGGLE should be embracing to preserve and handicap to fend off their Judgement Day.
Just remember, your Culture puts people to death for JUSTIFIED REASONS and steals property from both living and dead for JUSTIFIED REASONS, while in WHITE cultures and societies there is something known as Love and the 10 Commandments: we know that Love is the law, yet anyone that needs to be COMMANDED to NOT STEAL and NOT MURDER is not an example of a superior culture but a bunch of disobedient children that were DISCIPLINED by the Most High authority. Islam is a zit on an ass, and Jews are the Bleached/whitened Arabs that allowed Muslims into Anglo-Saxon culture and you will find-out why the difference between Obedient Children and Muslims.
Bout case is a useful study in how the Obama administration could be exerting pressure on the British and Swedish governments. Ironically, what we know about the Bout case comes from secret cables released by WikiLeaks. ... an aggressive lawyer could drag out an extradition case against Assange -- whoever the requesting country -- for as long as two years. But as bond has been denied, he might spend that time in a prison cell.
http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2010/12/07/julian_assange_extradition/index.html
The US no longer stands for freedom. Not in any way. Maybe 200 years ago, but not now. In fact, with the recent DHS/TSA fiasco we may be one of the least free countries on the planet. "I am going to squeeze your balls, citizen. You are permitted to cough. Resistance is futile." USA = Police State. Time to wake up, comrade.
We lose more freedom every day. Not because of the government but because the people are willing to take it up the ass as long as they feel safe Funny thing is it really doesn't make you much safer with all these airport security laws and relaxed liberties. not to mention the funding of HS could go to local police who would actually make people more safe Fisto reporting for duty, Please assume the position
I am a man and I find it quite offensive that you think I lose all control as soon as a woman touches my dick.
It's a bad excuse for bad behavior. But then it's typical of misogynists to make vague references to biology as support for their negative attitudes towards women.
I am a man and I find it quite offensive that you think I lose all control as soon as a woman touches my dick.
thats because you have reading comprehension issues.
what parts of 'ejaculation' and vicinity of time near ejaculation you dont understand ?
please, next time you are having real good sex, try stopping right at the time you are going to ejaculate and pull yourself out.
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Regarding the worldwide reactions of mainstream media to a Swedish prosecutor's poor and possibly biased paperwork, see Naomi Wolf's brillant, and sarcastic, commentary on Assange's alleged (just that - alleged) wrongdoings, written in the form of an Open Letter:
"Dear Interpol:
As a longtime feminist activist, I have been overjoyed to discover your new commitment to engaging in global manhunts to arrest and prosecute men who behave like narcissistic jerks to women they are dating.
I see that Julian Assange is accused of having consensual sex with two women, in one case using a condom that broke. I understand, from the alleged victims' complaints to the media, that Assange is also accused of texting and tweeting in the taxi on the way to one of the women's apartments while on a date, and, disgustingly enough, 'reading stories about himself online'in the cab.
[...]
Thank you again, Interpol. I know you will now prioritize the global manhunt for 1.3 million guys I have heard similar complaints about personally in the US alone
[...]"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/naomi-wolf/interpol-the-worlds-datin_b_793033.html
The "crime" is not RAPE. It is something else. Call it what it is or you are perpetuating the problem
I'm Swedish. Sneaking of a condom or deliberately breaking a condom during sex is definitely rape of the worst kind in my mind (the other person only accepted to have one kind of sex, one without any risks, not any other kind of sex, the point that he/she admitted to have some other kind of sex is irrelevant to a Swede when it comes to how nasty a rape is). To promise someone not to squirt in her/his mouth during oral sex and then deliberately do it anyway (and laugh about it and ridicule the victim), that is also rape in my mind. I think I'm typical Swedish when it comes to this.
In the first case, Swedish law happen to agree with me. The second case is more of a legal grey zone (that it is rape, not that it isn't criminal). This doesn't mean Assange will be convicted, the prosecutor have to prove that he did those things deliberately (and we don't yet even know if this is what he is being accused of).
The media is strangely against Assange. He stands for everything the media is supposed to stand for. So not only has the media forgotten itself, it seems to actually combat its own principles.
Who owns the media though? It isn't as free and unbiased as it used to be.
As the leaks show, its just how the USA works. They threaten the other government in many ways, possibly even blackmail using that DNA, passwords, credit card info that they have been gathering...
Details are not need, simply tell your slave its their problem you just want results ASAP or else! They will come up with something on their own. Sex is a common tool to use and the locals must know they have bad laws on rape... In the process of looking into the man, they'd figure out there was more than 1 woman rather quickly and when the women find out about each other is the best time to make your move. Wouldn't be hard to let the women find out about each other.
Then you have the pressure employed on the gov to do the dirty work for the USA, they employ their own pressure to get their job done. Possibly more since they are desperate to get the pressure off their back and onto the target. The women may give in to pressure as well and if they do not they will likely have a harder time.
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Left vs Right is a false dichotomy to begin with.
The typical "left" is usually less opposed to changes to new things than the "right" which tends to cling to past memories or current status. The "real world" is complex and not likely to map to any world view so the side who's less attached to their current state is going to have less cognitive dissonance to deal with. The "right" generally has A TON of cognitive dissonance going on these days you are probably better off defining them by that because its the most common thread they have.
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How can we help you?
Govt must constitute a panel to rewrite US Constitution and Quran
Nope, he's not married and there are no 4 witnesses etc, so no stoning for you.
Sex without risks is called masturbation.
Jesus was all right but his disciples were thick and ordinary. -John Lennon
Good catch, maa shaa'a Allah. You are right, but only if he does not confess in relations. If he does, then he would still get lashing.
I do not believe in karma. "Funny"=-6. Do good and forbid evil. Yours, Oft-Offtopic Flamebaiting Troll.
I am not forcing my views on you. Where did you get that? It's your armies that are killing my brothers and sisters.
I do not believe in karma. "Funny"=-6. Do good and forbid evil. Yours, Oft-Offtopic Flamebaiting Troll.
That wasn't the issue here. Assange isn't accused of not being able to stop en orgasm, but to stop having sex before that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Wills_(security_guard)
Are you saying they have mobile Internet out in the mountainous border regions of Afghanistan? I can't get a reliable mobile connection where I am, and we have multi-story office buildings and roads and cars and everything :-(
"When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
When are the leaks about Wikileaks coming out?
people's base motivations and the ways to manipulate them did not change throughout history. it is always repeating itself.
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