How did you take my "this incident doesn't relate to gun law" and turn it into a tl;dr post in favor of gun law reform? And who said anything about this guy being a Republican??
Ya! Hackers could never do something like write a virus that is engineered to seek and disable nuclear centerfuges... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuxnet)
Exactly. Mutually assured destruction only works as a deterrent when everyone who has their hand on the trigger wishes to protect themselves. This man obviously did not care what happened to him, he simply wanted to incur a maximum amount of damage (for whatever reason). More bullets flying through the air would likely have caused more damage, not less.
Most average concealed carry permit holders are much better marksmen and practice far more often.
What are you talking about? Do you have any studies, numbers, even an educated guess at those numbers? I know a lot of cops and they practice plenty often. I'm not at all worried about whether then can wield the weapon responsibly when the need arises.
Agreed. This incident should not be taken as an example either for or against gun control. Gun control would not likely have stopped the guy from getting a gun, and lack of gun control would not have allowed another armed citizen in the theatre to aim through tear gas, a dark, crowded theatre, with lots of commotion, nor even realize that this was not just an act by the theatre employees (as some people reported they first believed).
Let's try to find out why this guy did such a horrific thing instead of fighting about gun laws that wouldn't have had an effect either way.
Ya, I'm with you in that regard -- we're spending more than our current resources allow for, and the best way to fix that is to spend less and acquire more resources at the same time. This is a lot of money for something that will only (even potentially) improve teachers of four subjects. It's a great idea but it's a lot of money for an experiment, and we definitely won't see a direct recuperation of this money, even if the experiment goes well.
I don't quite follow what you mean regarding #2, but as a member of a family of teachers I totally agree with you on #1,3 & 4. It'd also help if, as a society, we held teachers in higher regard -- they are working in public service just like the police and firefighters are. You don't become a teacher to get rich, you do it because you want society to improve. Let's give them some respect. At the same time, lets have some more scrutiny about who we employ as teachers, so we can get rid of those few teachers who give no effort to improving their teaching style.
Speaking from my personal standpoint, if I was 100k dollars in debt, spending 10 dollars on some sunglasses is really of no impact to my debt.
While that's a valid point, you're equating this program to being a luxury. There are others who see educational system improvements as a necessity, and this program *could* improve our educational system. Of course, it could also have a negative impact -- I haven't done enough research on it myself to form an opinion either way, having just heard about it for the first time from this summary and the linked articles. I just want to challenge your implied assumption that this program equates to "sunglasses."
The quality of comments on this thread is significantly degraded from what I expect of the Slashdot community. The actual process being followed here is that WA has created a web application to allow voter registration. Just a web application. They are then using oauth to allow people with facebook accounts to use the information from their facebook accounts on their site. This is NOT "on facebook" at all. Facebook never touches any data that they don't already have. In fact, this is really a non-issue and should be supported by a group of technology enthusiasts that the Slashdot community used to consist of.
Thank you for bringing this up. I still play BF3 but constantly rail against the stupid web interface. Heaven forbid something on their website is down -- you can't even play the game!
Agreed wholeheartedly. The headline reads more like "Feds want to be able to easily seize things that are stored on the cloud" than "Feds won't use cloud unless they can have priority access to their data"
I don't have any mod points, but just want to second the parent. Fogbugz works great for one or two people and it's free until you get bigger than that. It's nice having something hosted and free without being forced to open-source your project.
None of the above. It doesn't mean you're lazy, dumb, or anything else. The important point is that it makes your message parse incorrectly in my mind, and that causes me to have to slow down and interpret the intent of your comment without being able to rely on my much quicker recognition patterns that have been trained my entire life to read somewhat-proper English. Therefore, if you want your point to come across quickly and accurately, it is in your best interest to provide the message using grammar and spelling which are appropriately accepted and understood by your target audience. Sometimes that means it is best to use style similar to "Ur K3wl!" but here at Slashdot, that is probably not the case.
without the effort required to interpret the message distracting from the message.
So did you forget about this part or are you just really bad at it? I had to restart reading that paragraph several times to get the content. It seems like that qualifies as a "distraction" to me.
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How did you take my "this incident doesn't relate to gun law" and turn it into a tl;dr post in favor of gun law reform? And who said anything about this guy being a Republican??
Ya! Hackers could never do something like write a virus that is engineered to seek and disable nuclear centerfuges... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuxnet)
Exactly. Mutually assured destruction only works as a deterrent when everyone who has their hand on the trigger wishes to protect themselves. This man obviously did not care what happened to him, he simply wanted to incur a maximum amount of damage (for whatever reason). More bullets flying through the air would likely have caused more damage, not less.
What are you talking about? Do you have any studies, numbers, even an educated guess at those numbers? I know a lot of cops and they practice plenty often. I'm not at all worried about whether then can wield the weapon responsibly when the need arises.
True. For example, you can deal with one another by ignoring one another, which is neither force nor reason...
Agreed. This incident should not be taken as an example either for or against gun control. Gun control would not likely have stopped the guy from getting a gun, and lack of gun control would not have allowed another armed citizen in the theatre to aim through tear gas, a dark, crowded theatre, with lots of commotion, nor even realize that this was not just an act by the theatre employees (as some people reported they first believed).
Let's try to find out why this guy did such a horrific thing instead of fighting about gun laws that wouldn't have had an effect either way.
If you can't see the assailant because of the tear gas he deployed first, then how on earth are you going to try to aim at and shoot him?
Ya, I'm with you in that regard -- we're spending more than our current resources allow for, and the best way to fix that is to spend less and acquire more resources at the same time. This is a lot of money for something that will only (even potentially) improve teachers of four subjects. It's a great idea but it's a lot of money for an experiment, and we definitely won't see a direct recuperation of this money, even if the experiment goes well.
I don't quite follow what you mean regarding #2, but as a member of a family of teachers I totally agree with you on #1,3 & 4. It'd also help if, as a society, we held teachers in higher regard -- they are working in public service just like the police and firefighters are. You don't become a teacher to get rich, you do it because you want society to improve. Let's give them some respect. At the same time, lets have some more scrutiny about who we employ as teachers, so we can get rid of those few teachers who give no effort to improving their teaching style.
While that's a valid point, you're equating this program to being a luxury. There are others who see educational system improvements as a necessity, and this program *could* improve our educational system. Of course, it could also have a negative impact -- I haven't done enough research on it myself to form an opinion either way, having just heard about it for the first time from this summary and the linked articles. I just want to challenge your implied assumption that this program equates to "sunglasses."
I have to tell you, your dickish behavior here is not winning him any votes.
Thank you, I think you're the only reply who got it.
Relax, it was a joke based on a recent misspelling of "America" by the Romney campaign, and the GP's "NSAmerCIA" headline. Hence the bold characters.
The quality of comments on this thread is significantly degraded from what I expect of the Slashdot community. The actual process being followed here is that WA has created a web application to allow voter registration. Just a web application. They are then using oauth to allow people with facebook accounts to use the information from their facebook accounts on their site. This is NOT "on facebook" at all. Facebook never touches any data that they don't already have. In fact, this is really a non-issue and should be supported by a group of technology enthusiasts that the Slashdot community used to consist of.
I'm sorry your knees are all jerking.
This is Romney's Amercia!
*whoosh* -- and I think the *whoosh* happened about 8 posts higher in the thread...
Maybe you forgot, but your eyes are directly connected to an incredibly powerful storage device.
What is this, high school?
Thank you for bringing this up. I still play BF3 but constantly rail against the stupid web interface. Heaven forbid something on their website is down -- you can't even play the game!
Agreed wholeheartedly. The headline reads more like "Feds want to be able to easily seize things that are stored on the cloud" than "Feds won't use cloud unless they can have priority access to their data"
I don't have any mod points, but just want to second the parent. Fogbugz works great for one or two people and it's free until you get bigger than that. It's nice having something hosted and free without being forced to open-source your project.
None of the above. It doesn't mean you're lazy, dumb, or anything else. The important point is that it makes your message parse incorrectly in my mind, and that causes me to have to slow down and interpret the intent of your comment without being able to rely on my much quicker recognition patterns that have been trained my entire life to read somewhat-proper English. Therefore, if you want your point to come across quickly and accurately, it is in your best interest to provide the message using grammar and spelling which are appropriately accepted and understood by your target audience. Sometimes that means it is best to use style similar to "Ur K3wl!" but here at Slashdot, that is probably not the case.
Ur... yeah, I misread that. The actual article is much less useful.
So did you forget about this part or are you just really bad at it? I had to restart reading that paragraph several times to get the content. It seems like that qualifies as a "distraction" to me.
Are you sure? It looks like you have an extra "go" to me.