I was curious about the program, so I checked the website out. Also, below is a response to a question from their customer service team:
TradeInProgram@greensight.com to me
Dear *my name removed*,
I'll be happy to answer your question. We do not send any of our equipment to China or any other country for processing. Some product is recycled within the USA in an environmentally friendly manner, other items that have some value are disassembled (at our facility) down to their component parts for use in the repair and service industry. It may be possible that a customer who purchases one or more of the resulting components for some type of repair operation may be in any country, but we do not send anything outside of the US for recycling/reprocessing. I hope this information has been helpful.
Sincerely,
*customer service rep name removed*
The CostcoTrade-In and Recycle Program Team
Our organization uses Intercon Recycling http://interconrecycling.com/ We've recycled several tons (metric) of IT equipment with them.
Disclaimer: I am in no way associated with them. We choose them solely because they guaranteed in writing that all of the IT waste would be processed in the US (not shipping to China) and that none of the IT waste would hit the landfill waste stream (everything is smelted down and recycled).
I know people (not me, of course) who have their T-Mobile HotSpot@Home-enabled phone to freely associate with access points that are a) unencrypted and b) have the SSID linksys, netgear, etc. The bandwidth usage is minimal, and the phone owner makes/receives free calls.
So what of the people who know enough about 802.11 to describe how it works (ie, everyone in this thread)?
Should we let Dale Earnhardt Jr. claim ignorance when his runaway car runs over an old lady?
Probably not, but in a lot of cases of elderly folk having accidents, most of them get a pass on any trouble (citations not withstanding) as long as no one was injured/killed.
Perhaps there's less competition because residential internet is not profitable without a monopoly? I can get 10Mbps up and down for $150 from a wireless provider. I doubt they would be able to provide the same service for $50/month (which is what Comcast charges for 8Mb down and 384k up in my area).
Really? Because I thought it was Comcast and SBC that paid the huge capital expenditures to lay the copper/fiber. Being granted the right to lay copper/fiber is not the same as getting a fist full of taxpayer dollars.
At the end of the day, it's their network. If you don't want your packets to ride their network, don't use their service. Do you care that they block Microsoft file sharing ports through their network? How about SBC/Yahoo DSL blocking port 25 outbound except to their internal mail servers? In the end, you can always go with a provider who will just give you pipe (Speakeasy), but it's going to cost you a premium (as it should).
Comcast will simply come out and say "Hey, we gave you users a chance. Now, we throttle Australian-ISP style". You'll get unlimited Internet. It'll just be at 6-8Mbps in short bursts, and the rest throttled down to 256kbps.
It comes down to people wanting champagne internet connectivity on a beer budget. Want 10Mbps up and down? Pay for a real internet connection.
You make a poor rebuttal. Carter's decision was purely political, not technical. We need a political fix to let us use the technical solution, or the next 10-50 years are going to be very ugly.
Even with these sources of oil, demand from china and india is going to push oil past $150/barrel.
Disclaimer: I am not an economist, I've just dumped about 500 hours in the past 6 months into academic research regarding energy markets, renewable energy planning, etc.
What's needed is an immediate carbon cap and trade system to force the "externalities" of carbon-producing generation methods into the bottom line. Then, "cleaner" technologies (such as nuclear) become more economically viable.
In most cases, natural gas is used in ethanol production, not coal. Still bad, but not *as* bad. I agree we should be co-locating symbiotic plants together (nuclear power plant provides excess heat to cellulosic ethanol plant as well as homes in the area).
Unfortunately (or fortunately?), technology is moving so quickly that equipment just manufactured is already obsolete due to the next revision already reaching production grade at that point. While it sucks from a consumer standpoint, from a human species perspective it kicks ass.
I've seen that throughout this thread, you've been very active answering questions. Kudos. I do indeed hope you guys are putting excess cash into a proper investment vehicle (even if it's just a big ol' corporate money market account paying 5%). Then again, I could've just cruised over to the website and read your financial disclosure statement.
Almost all datacenters have their cooling needs sized to work on the generator. You can't run the cooling system off the UPS, which is only sized to carry you from utility power to generator power. Only essential loads (i.e. routers, switches, customer equipment) should be run off of UPS power, as the cooling system should come back up when the generator farm fires up. You should be on UPS for NO LONGER then 3 minutes, as generators only take about 60-120 seconds to start up, and your UPS run time is most likely only 10-15 minutes (sometimes less).
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But they don't have to open up their fiber to competitors.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Motors
I've gotten off track though. Tax subsidies and benefits aren't taxpayer money though (although the two are confused often).
TradeInProgram@greensight.com to me
Dear *my name removed*,
I'll be happy to answer your question. We do not send any of our equipment to China or any other country for processing. Some product is recycled within the USA in an environmentally friendly manner, other items that have some value are disassembled (at our facility) down to their component parts for use in the repair and service industry. It may be possible that a customer who purchases one or more of the resulting components for some type of repair operation may be in any country, but we do not send anything outside of the US for recycling/reprocessing. I hope this information has been helpful.
Sincerely,
*customer service rep name removed*
The CostcoTrade-In and Recycle Program Team
Disclaimer: I am in no way associated with them. We choose them solely because they guaranteed in writing that all of the IT waste would be processed in the US (not shipping to China) and that none of the IT waste would hit the landfill waste stream (everything is smelted down and recycled).
Panera Bread has free wifi. I know, because I used it with my laptop and T-Mobile Wi-Fi enabled phone during breakfast this morning.
Not sure if you knew, but taking garbage put out by a residence is completely legal.
I know people (not me, of course) who have their T-Mobile HotSpot@Home-enabled phone to freely associate with access points that are a) unencrypted and b) have the SSID linksys, netgear, etc. The bandwidth usage is minimal, and the phone owner makes/receives free calls.
Probably not, but in a lot of cases of elderly folk having accidents, most of them get a pass on any trouble (citations not withstanding) as long as no one was injured/killed.
Perhaps there's less competition because residential internet is not profitable without a monopoly? I can get 10Mbps up and down for $150 from a wireless provider. I doubt they would be able to provide the same service for $50/month (which is what Comcast charges for 8Mb down and 384k up in my area).
Really? Because I thought it was Comcast and SBC that paid the huge capital expenditures to lay the copper/fiber. Being granted the right to lay copper/fiber is not the same as getting a fist full of taxpayer dollars.
You're paying for the use of their network. It's not yours. No part of it is yours. When you rent a car, you pay for it's use. It. is. not. yours.
At the end of the day, it's their network. If you don't want your packets to ride their network, don't use their service. Do you care that they block Microsoft file sharing ports through their network? How about SBC/Yahoo DSL blocking port 25 outbound except to their internal mail servers? In the end, you can always go with a provider who will just give you pipe (Speakeasy), but it's going to cost you a premium (as it should).
Amen. I would pay Comcast extra to do this.
It comes down to people wanting champagne internet connectivity on a beer budget. Want 10Mbps up and down? Pay for a real internet connection.
Easy. Damages. You've lost nothing by them blocking a bittorrent transfer. When real fraud occurs (i.e. fake check), then it matters.
You make a poor rebuttal. Carter's decision was purely political, not technical. We need a political fix to let us use the technical solution, or the next 10-50 years are going to be very ugly.
Disclaimer: I am not an economist, I've just dumped about 500 hours in the past 6 months into academic research regarding energy markets, renewable energy planning, etc.
What's needed is an immediate carbon cap and trade system to force the "externalities" of carbon-producing generation methods into the bottom line. Then, "cleaner" technologies (such as nuclear) become more economically viable.
In most cases, natural gas is used in ethanol production, not coal. Still bad, but not *as* bad. I agree we should be co-locating symbiotic plants together (nuclear power plant provides excess heat to cellulosic ethanol plant as well as homes in the area).
Unfortunately (or fortunately?), technology is moving so quickly that equipment just manufactured is already obsolete due to the next revision already reaching production grade at that point. While it sucks from a consumer standpoint, from a human species perspective it kicks ass.
While I know this info would only be anecdotal, make sure to keep track of failure rates.
I've seen that throughout this thread, you've been very active answering questions. Kudos. I do indeed hope you guys are putting excess cash into a proper investment vehicle (even if it's just a big ol' corporate money market account paying 5%). Then again, I could've just cruised over to the website and read your financial disclosure statement.
A++ Excellent sarcasm. Would definitely chuckle again.
Almost all datacenters have their cooling needs sized to work on the generator. You can't run the cooling system off the UPS, which is only sized to carry you from utility power to generator power. Only essential loads (i.e. routers, switches, customer equipment) should be run off of UPS power, as the cooling system should come back up when the generator farm fires up. You should be on UPS for NO LONGER then 3 minutes, as generators only take about 60-120 seconds to start up, and your UPS run time is most likely only 10-15 minutes (sometimes less).