In all, it's really quite a mess when at its core people try to dictate the behavior of others. If you offer an incentive and people don't take it, the solution should not be to beat them with a stick and force them to take it.
So if individuals don't stop doing something that negatively effects others even after being incentivized to stop, what do you recommend?
The program shouldn't be suspended based on unemployment rates. The unemployment rate isn't going to matter if climate is changed enough that we can't grow food or live in the new climates (drastic temperature fluctuations, more hurricans, etc). Natural systems > economy.
21 states, from California to Florida, as well as Puerto Rico have toll roads. That doesn't include toll tunnels and bridges, which is a seperate page at the US DOT website.
When people start buying toilet paper from Amazon instead of Walmart/$localgrocer, I'll worry. Part of the problem is that there's a very loud minority who doesn't believe in keeping government spending in line with a reasonable amount of tax revenue (for example, see: California).
And my infrastructure pays for parks I enjoy, roads I use, schools which educate the people around me so that they don't all turn to street crime, police to deal with the ones who do, etc. Taxes buy me civilization. I'd rather not pocket a few more bucks in returning for living a life that is solitary, poor, nasty, brutish and short.
You just outlined everything my property taxes pay for. Please feel free to outline what my sales tax gets me.
Really, though, we should all just realize that for the most part these kinds of taxes aren't supposed to make sense, they are just supposed to steal from people.
Think how much land Amazon.com uses for their fulfillment centers across the country, and the corresponding property taxes they have to pay. Chicago *paid* Boeing to move their HQ here.
Then fucking tax appropriately. Fuel tax for roads. Property taxes for schools, parks, etc in your jurisdiction, etc. Taxes should go towards what they're meant for, not a god damn slush fund.
Why should I pay a tax when I buy something at Amazon when I don't use any of the infrastructure used in supporting a brick and mortar store like WalMart? Because it's not "fair"? If your infrastructure is that expensive, I suggest you find a better way of paying for it (or, I don't know, cutting spending perhaps?) other than whining that mail order/Internet orders need to be taxed.
You misunderstood my post. I'm saying open source giveth and open source taketh away. Just as snort and other open source tools can be used to hinder rights/freedoms/etc., other open source tools can be used to bolster such rights. Each is simply a tool to be used, with the use up to the user.
And perhaps it's a great reason for people to use Creative Commons for their writings/photos/etc. nowadays (if they so desire to release their work in that manner).
Project Gutenberg has an *excellent* clearance team to determine the copyright constraints of work. I know because I use to be a PG volunteer until I ran out of free time =(
Hence the reason those of us who could purchased a Roadster and put money down on the Model S. It's not like you can invest in Tesla personally to help the EV cause out unless you know Elon personally.
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In all, it's really quite a mess when at its core people try to dictate the behavior of others. If you offer an incentive and people don't take it, the solution should not be to beat them with a stick and force them to take it.
So if individuals don't stop doing something that negatively effects others even after being incentivized to stop, what do you recommend?
The program shouldn't be suspended based on unemployment rates. The unemployment rate isn't going to matter if climate is changed enough that we can't grow food or live in the new climates (drastic temperature fluctuations, more hurricans, etc). Natural systems > economy.
Natural systems don't care what our unemployment rate is.
Ahhh, someone telling me to shove it after being proven wrong. Oh how sweet Slashdot can be at times. Enjoy your asshattery.
US DOT 2007 Toll Facilities in the United States http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/ohim/tollpage/t1part3.htm
21 states, from California to Florida, as well as Puerto Rico have toll roads. That doesn't include toll tunnels and bridges, which is a seperate page at the US DOT website.
Epic. Fail.
As someone from Illinois, I'd liken Indiana to Calcutta. Carry on complaining about actions being taken to prevent public resources from being abused.
When the pirate bay is outlawed (or sold), only outlaws will have usenet servers tunneled between each other with trust models based on invite only ;)
When people start buying toilet paper from Amazon instead of Walmart/$localgrocer, I'll worry. Part of the problem is that there's a very loud minority who doesn't believe in keeping government spending in line with a reasonable amount of tax revenue (for example, see: California).
Ahh, I see, a shotgun approach to tax collection. Another reason government spending should be reined in.
Damn it! You divided by zero!
And my infrastructure pays for parks I enjoy, roads I use, schools which educate the people around me so that they don't all turn to street crime, police to deal with the ones who do, etc. Taxes buy me civilization. I'd rather not pocket a few more bucks in returning for living a life that is solitary, poor, nasty, brutish and short.
You just outlined everything my property taxes pay for. Please feel free to outline what my sales tax gets me.
Really, though, we should all just realize that for the most part these kinds of taxes aren't supposed to make sense, they are just supposed to steal from people.
Fixed that for you.
Think how much land Amazon.com uses for their fulfillment centers across the country, and the corresponding property taxes they have to pay. Chicago *paid* Boeing to move their HQ here.
Then fucking tax appropriately. Fuel tax for roads. Property taxes for schools, parks, etc in your jurisdiction, etc. Taxes should go towards what they're meant for, not a god damn slush fund.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=230057&title=youre-welcome-california-budget
Why should I pay a tax when I buy something at Amazon when I don't use any of the infrastructure used in supporting a brick and mortar store like WalMart? Because it's not "fair"? If your infrastructure is that expensive, I suggest you find a better way of paying for it (or, I don't know, cutting spending perhaps?) other than whining that mail order/Internet orders need to be taxed.
You misunderstood my post. I'm saying open source giveth and open source taketh away. Just as snort and other open source tools can be used to hinder rights/freedoms/etc., other open source tools can be used to bolster such rights. Each is simply a tool to be used, with the use up to the user.
Doesn't the blade cut both ways? OpenSSH? OpenSSL? GnuPG/PGP?
Build the app for Android/iphone and have it tie in with Wikipedia/WikiTravel.
Someone needs to learn how to Google
And perhaps it's a great reason for people to use Creative Commons for their writings/photos/etc. nowadays (if they so desire to release their work in that manner).
Project Gutenberg has an *excellent* clearance team to determine the copyright constraints of work. I know because I use to be a PG volunteer until I ran out of free time =(
Sounds like they'll just have to scrap this orbiter early.
Hence the reason those of us who could purchased a Roadster and put money down on the Model S. It's not like you can invest in Tesla personally to help the EV cause out unless you know Elon personally.
You want to restrict their ability to get paid back for their R&D? Their expensive cars are paying for the R&D for them to make cheaper cars.