Oh yes, I found out the hard way that money isn't everything. It does help, I'll grant you that, but looking forward to coming to work every morning, now that is.. how do the commercials say? "Priceless!"
And thank you for the compliment!:)
Kris
I haven't because I worry that I will be laughed right off the board. Maybe because I'm a "girl"?
Seriously, it is a great resource and when I create something that I feel will be helpful to others (and not something that is protected by the copy rights of my company) I will probably do so.
I LOVE Macs and plan on owning one again soon... I also am dying to learn Linux... sadly, though, I am one of those "underpaid" programmers. We are a small company though...
And my IT manager is a geek. He used to be just a network admin who happened to be at the right place at the right time. He is a good person, though, and I really enjoy working with him.
Exciting, well, depends on what excites you, I suppose. Learning new stuff, finding new exciting programming tools, that excites me.:) I can find a lot of people in the programming / IT world that still knows more than me, and I love learning new stuff!
As for well-adjusted, you are right, few IT people like Social Situations. The rest of our company don't understand us and we are all classified as "Weird", I just happen to be a weird female. I was a novelty at first, but now I'm weird just like everyone else. *grin*
I've been programming since high school (86-87). I am 1. Not overweight. (120 pounds) 2. Not ugly. http://www.heartlandsi.com/HeartlandServices/IT.as px (yes, the only girl here though) 3. Not bi or lesbian (although the way men are, I have certainly considered going the other way, especially after dumping my last boyfriend -- in October) 4. Definitely not transgendered
Okay, so, am I a geek then? I call myself a geek cuz I would prefer to be in front of a computer than at some party somewhere. I do okay in social situations, but I do not enjoy them.
Yeah, I was not popular in school, but I didn't turn to computers, I turned to books. Computers weren't available to me until the middle 80's and even then, my favorite escape was a good fantasy Sci/Fi book. (aha! Another Geeky thing! I suppose I shouldn't mention that I never missed a Doctor Who episode while I was young?)
A few years ago, I just finished updating myself by getting a a second degree from Devry Online. There were a LOT of females in the online environment. There were at least 5 in every class and most classes had about 10 people.
I love my job. I love programming.
It's really sad that we females have to be stuck into a stereo type just to be good at something that is normally reserved for Geeks. In fact, I would have to say that I have met few "Geeks" as defined by Caspian, I have met many handsome, interesting, fun and exciting men who are in the computer field.
So, you don't want anecdotal evidence to the contrary. Why? Do you feel the need to justify yourself and your loneliness and don't want anyone to argue with you? What makes you the expert on the females in this field? Just because you don't happen to be someplace that is open to hiring females and to giving them a chance in what is still considered "a non-traditional" field for females?
I am not a feminist. I just happen to be happy what I'm doing. Programming. I did not go into this field because there are so few women. I did it because I enjoy it. I was always really good at it and loved the challenges that came from something that changes nearly every day.
I'm me, and I resent this and many of the other comments within this discussion.
Thanks for listening, Kris (That girl in IT)
PS I just gave up my moderation of this discussion to post this.
Beautiful!! Just what I needed on this hectic End of Month full of the usual BS Monday! (And why AM I working on Halloween? Couldn't I just claim a religious holiday or something?)
Ya know, for the longest time I had serious issues with the thought of Starbuck as a female (of course, like many females back then, had a crush on the original Starbuck, which of course moved to "Face" on the A-Team).
But Katee Sackhoff has done an awesome job pulling it off, and now I don't miss a show.
SCI FI Friday's have the ONLY shows on TV that I watch anymore. (Unless you count football...)
I also really like what they did with Dr. Gaius Baltar, and how Number6 Silon has jumped into his conscious mind.. (I loved the episode where everyone else saw her too...)
When I went back to school to get my degree in computers, everyone wanted to know why? I used to be a teacher... but I was too non-traditional and I hated dealing with Admin and some parents... (I loved the kids, though...)
But computers have always been my passion, from my very first Timex computer which attached to a TV Screen, to my new as of last September degree in Programming.
Everyone said I wouldn't get a job.. the day after my graduation date I started my new job, which I totally love. (But I had to miss my graduation ceremony...)
The central US is grabbing us up like flies to honey! (Perhaps lower pay, but cost of living is also lower).
It's happening. Maybe not everywhere, but I certainly see it happening now. A co-worker put his resume on Monster and has been inundated ever since. He will be starting his new job next week, at 3X his current pay. (we won't go there)
We only had 3 decent applicants to take his position... and straight out of college (just like me) and we've been looking for additional help since early January.
Oh yes, I certainly do see the winds changing (and not just the winds in Kansas -- and no, never met Dorothy or Toto...;)
I love Firefox as well. When my co-worker introduced me, it was love at first site.
Unfortunately, some pages that we need at work require IE, and it is always a shock to have to move back into IE mode.
The Tabs are great, but they aren't the only reason I switched! I still sometimes forget to use them, and sometimes have to back track, close the new window and right click to open a new tab, but I love how little space they take up along my taskbar. (I've a bad habit of using quite a few programs at the same time (multitasking... honest!) and Firefox allows me more space and ease of switching between them).
It also truly is amazing the decrease in spyware that has infiltrated my system since I switched.
Slashdot Mirror
Oh dear.
I checked, and the web page stats says the IT Page has been hit over 800 times since I posted that note...
That's more hits than we have had in one year...
*sigh*
*blush* Why thank you! :)
I hate knitting and sewing.....
Oh yes, I found out the hard way that money isn't everything. It does help, I'll grant you that, but looking forward to coming to work every morning, now that is .. how do the commercials say? "Priceless!"
And thank you for the compliment! :)
Kris
I haven't because I worry that I will be laughed right off the board. Maybe because I'm a "girl"?
Seriously, it is a great resource and when I create something that I feel will be helpful to others (and not something that is protected by the copy rights of my company) I will probably do so.
LOL
But why did you post as an Anonymous Coward?
Oh, and fwiw, I HATE windows and microsoft...
But let's not go there...
That is sad that they actually had to create a scholarship program for Women in IT.
:)
And Kick some ASS!!
You GO girl!!
Kris
(That girl in IT)
You sound awfully bitter...
:) Maybe the online world will make a difference!!
I don't feel the same, and I've been programming off and on since 86-87. I am now a full-time programmer and loving it!
I took classes to update my knowledge base a couple years ago, through Devry Online and many times at least half of the classes were females!
There is hope!!
Kris
(That girl in IT)
My job definition is programmer.
:) I can find a lot of people in the programming / IT world that still knows more than me, and I love learning new stuff!
I LOVE Macs and plan on owning one again soon...
I also am dying to learn Linux...
sadly, though, I am one of those "underpaid" programmers. We are a small company though...
And my IT manager is a geek. He used to be just a network admin who happened to be at the right place at the right time. He is a good person, though, and I really enjoy working with him.
Exciting, well, depends on what excites you, I suppose. Learning new stuff, finding new exciting programming tools, that excites me.
As for well-adjusted, you are right, few IT people like Social Situations. The rest of our company don't understand us and we are all classified as "Weird", I just happen to be a weird female. I was a novelty at first, but now I'm weird just like everyone else. *grin*
Kris
LOL
Thanks for clarifying that it was not a personal offense.
I was reading all the replies and you just happened to be the "lucky" one I responded to...
Kris
I've been programming since high school (86-87).s px (yes, the only girl here though)
I am
1. Not overweight. (120 pounds)
2. Not ugly. http://www.heartlandsi.com/HeartlandServices/IT.a
3. Not bi or lesbian (although the way men are, I have certainly considered going the other way, especially after dumping my last boyfriend -- in October)
4. Definitely not transgendered
Okay, so, am I a geek then? I call myself a geek cuz I would prefer to be in front of a computer than at some party somewhere. I do okay in social situations, but I do not enjoy them.
Yeah, I was not popular in school, but I didn't turn to computers, I turned to books. Computers weren't available to me until the middle 80's and even then, my favorite escape was a good fantasy Sci/Fi book. (aha! Another Geeky thing! I suppose I shouldn't mention that I never missed a Doctor Who episode while I was young?)
A few years ago, I just finished updating myself by getting a a second degree from Devry Online. There were a LOT of females in the online environment. There were at least 5 in every class and most classes had about 10 people.
I love my job. I love programming.
It's really sad that we females have to be stuck into a stereo type just to be good at something that is normally reserved for Geeks. In fact, I would have to say that I have met few "Geeks" as defined by Caspian, I have met many handsome, interesting, fun and exciting men who are in the computer field.
So, you don't want anecdotal evidence to the contrary. Why? Do you feel the need to justify yourself and your loneliness and don't want anyone to argue with you? What makes you the expert on the females in this field? Just because you don't happen to be someplace that is open to hiring females and to giving them a chance in what is still considered "a non-traditional" field for females?
I am not a feminist. I just happen to be happy what I'm doing. Programming. I did not go into this field because there are so few women. I did it because I enjoy it. I was always really good at it and loved the challenges that came from something that changes nearly every day.
I'm me, and I resent this and many of the other comments within this discussion.
Thanks for listening,
Kris (That girl in IT)
PS
I just gave up my moderation of this discussion to post this.
Beautiful!! Just what I needed on this hectic End of Month full of the usual BS Monday! (And why AM I working on Halloween? Couldn't I just claim a religious holiday or something?)
:)
Thanks!
Kris
It may yet be so!!! :)
I'm a Mom on weekends and a Programmer during the week... ;) The extent of my life is so exciting...
I can't do much on Friday nights anymore, so this is perfect for me. It gives me yet another reason to look forward to the weekend!
But I can certainly see how it would cut into one's Friday night activities.. don't they have a second showing on Sunday's though?
Ya know, for the longest time I had serious issues with the thought of Starbuck as a female (of course, like many females back then, had a crush on the original Starbuck, which of course moved to "Face" on the A-Team).
:)
But Katee Sackhoff has done an awesome job pulling it off, and now I don't miss a show.
SCI FI Friday's have the ONLY shows on TV that I watch anymore. (Unless you count football...)
I also really like what they did with Dr. Gaius Baltar, and how Number6 Silon has jumped into his conscious mind.. (I loved the episode where everyone else saw her too...)
Anyway, I know what *I* am doing tonight!!!
Not always possible when you have regular meetings with people on the other side of the ocean....
I'm by no means an expert, but I do enjoy the scents, the flavors, etc. and it's fun to try to figure them out. :)
I will have to look into those you mentioned (after my next paycheck anyway.. :) Things have been tight the last few months...)
Thanks!!
I will certainly have to look into them. I do so love trying new things! :)
Thanks for the headsup!
When I went back to school to get my degree in computers, everyone wanted to know why? I used to be a teacher... but I was too non-traditional and I hated dealing with Admin and some parents... (I loved the kids, though...)
But computers have always been my passion, from my very first Timex computer which attached to a TV Screen, to my new as of last September degree in Programming.
Everyone said I wouldn't get a job.. the day after my graduation date I started my new job, which I totally love. (But I had to miss my graduation ceremony...)
The central US is grabbing us up like flies to honey! (Perhaps lower pay, but cost of living is also lower).
It's happening. Maybe not everywhere, but I certainly see it happening now. A co-worker put his resume on Monster and has been inundated ever since. He will be starting his new job next week, at 3X his current pay. (we won't go there)
We only had 3 decent applicants to take his position... and straight out of college (just like me) and we've been looking for additional help since early January.
Oh yes, I certainly do see the winds changing (and not just the winds in Kansas -- and no, never met Dorothy or Toto...
which will lead to computers creating computers and thinking machines creating thinking machines.
The horrors of sci-fi come to reality...
I'm too old to be keeping Whiskey or the Ameretto next to my computer anymore.. can't handle them as well as I used to, but a glass of wine, YES!
I will argue, however, the line about the cheap wine. I have expensive tastes... *grin*
Now, however, we need the ability to ship into Kansas.
But then, here in Kansas, we can't even teach Evolution without the courts getting involved...
Time to move perhaps?
I love Firefox as well. When my co-worker introduced me, it was love at first site.
Unfortunately, some pages that we need at work require IE, and it is always a shock to have to move back into IE mode.
The Tabs are great, but they aren't the only reason I switched! I still sometimes forget to use them, and sometimes have to back track, close the new window and right click to open a new tab, but I love how little space they take up along my taskbar. (I've a bad habit of using quite a few programs at the same time (multitasking... honest!) and Firefox allows me more space and ease of switching between them).
It also truly is amazing the decrease in spyware that has infiltrated my system since I switched.