... The guy with a gmail address think mozilla doesn't sell him down the river? Seriously?
Correction, the guy with a private gmail address who also happens to be a Mozillian... No, he really, doesn't see that happening:)
Regarding the gmail address, I do wish I could easily migrate, but gmail is just too convenient at this point.
(Maybe I'll migrate someday).
Who pays Mozilla to use them as the default search engine... Which I turn harvests every bit of data possible.
Well, there is a reason why in Firefox you search using the search-bar and not using the address bar. At least not everything doesn't get streamed to google.
Either way, the labs projects I've heard about seems to focus more on empowering users to decide what data to share. Which could be a win-win, I mean, let's not forget that sharing metadata can also be in the users interest (personalized search, or personalized news, etc...).
Either way. I have no doubts Mozillas intentions are pure. But you have to be pragmatic and make compromises, you can always improve the situation later...
Prison operation is now private and they want to grow the business.
I believe you on that one... But if cops and prison guards are advocating for more arrests and longer sentences in order to secure their jobs, you guys really need to fix that...
Maybe, offer a decent unemployment support so they don't have to be homeless if fired:)
Either way, cops should be trying to create more business for themselves. That's a problem to fix before trying to legalize soft drugs..
Because they themselves admitted they have no reason to believe this is actually harmful at the moment. They're preemptively banning things, which should be considered unacceptable in any truly free country.
They are proposing that an exception is revoked, so that all components of the industrialized food chain can be traced. Whether, this particular decision in that matter is of significance, is hard to say...
Either way, head lines such as "Beer prices could go up" is not the way to debate this:)
It's pretty difficult to argue with them when they haven't provided a reason for why we need to keep a safe, nutritious, low-cost food out of the hands of farmers.
From TFA it seems you might in fact be right.. Quote:
“We don’t know of any problems,” McChesney said. “But we’re trying to get to a preventative mode.”
But that quote could in fact be a misrepresentation... More so, it seems from TFA that they are talking about ending an exception for breweries. IMO it is important to be able to trace food poisoning to their sources. All other components in the industrialized food chain can be traced. It certainly seems unreasonable that large breweries, to which is would incur little cost, doesn't have proper testing and tracking.
Cry freedom all you want, but when something goes bad in the industrialized food chain, millions of innocent people are affected. And if there is no trace, fixing the problem may take months or years.
Either way, I suspect slashdotters aren't experts in risk analysis for this field, so maybe we should just leave it to the experts. It's just proposed, farmers and breweries still have a say.
i guarantee that at the slightest perceived provocation NK will shut off the gas. KIS is even more of a petulant child than KJI was.
Well... we'll see it easy for North Korea to be outraged over "the slightest perceived provocation" when they have nothing to loose.
Maybe if we give them something to loose, they think twice before deciding to give it up...
It's not like the impoverishing measures currently in place has much effect.
The only places we've recently seen the population rise and demand democracy is in the middle east, wealth, internet, computer, etc. is required to facilitate this.. Right now, most North Koreans are probably more concern with securing their next meal, than fighting their oppressive government. A don't think a new approach on North Korea can hurt, it's not like the current one works:)
Isn't it obvious at this point that everyone who can spy on you, will? There is no legal regulation, or simple pragmatic or moral restraint.
Remember Obama saying about the NSA, 'maybe just because we can gather some data doesn't mean we should' (paraphrased). It doesn't seem like others are even thinking about it, except Mozilla.
And the EU... but yeah, Mozilla, EFF, FSF are the primary private entities working for privacy.
Sure. But it would also take money/power from the police, police unions, prison guards unions, etc.
Come on, I refuse to believe that these entities are actively working to put more people in prison for no good reason.
That's bullshit, police unions represents police officers, usually union policies are made by vote.
I refuse to believe that most police officers want to lock up people for no good reason
That said, they may very well have insights into why weed is bad. They may have experience traffic accidents, etc.
In that line, I think it's more likely that private prisons advocate for more prison time, etc. That would be the American thing to do:)
You must be kidding me. San Francisco has more resources for homeless people than any other US city. Food, shelter (Tenderloin), treatment, charity. That's why they flock here. It's like we're asking for it. And indeed, people voluntarily come, or get sent by other cities to come here. Haven't you had enough of it?
That's possible, by read the article... the guy is trying to get off the street...
So hypothetical, if you were kicked out tomorrow, without any possessions other than a blanket and your back account, assets etc. was gone... How would you get on top again?
There is 9k homeless in sf 1k shelters.. How do make yourself representable so you can apply for an unskilled job? How do you keep a room, apartment anything for 10 USD/hour? Will you be better off in another city and can you risk moving? How do you move?
The opportunity to ask Putin about surveillance... Surely Putin could be lying, who knows...
And yes, it was likely staged, Snowden was likely asked to ask the question and told specifically what to ask.
But getting the answer is still worth while, sure Putin could go back on his word. But the more he does that the more he is going to lose credibility.
You can catch someone lying if you don't ask the questions you expect them to lie about.
That said, Russia properly doesn't have the resources to do the same scale of surveillance, if so mr-former-KGB would probably implement it.
No. When the government is doing it, then it becomes a right to a resource that the person is entitled to.
Food, shelter, education and health care is not unreasonable rights:)
Anyways, private charity will never cover the need, never... I'm from a country where government works, and it does provide opportunity for people to get back on their feet.
There is still private charity for poor people, but they focus mainly on social aspects, or on the cases where a few fall through the state provided safety net.
My point is, private charity, will never cover more than edge cases. It's never enough to cover everybody, or even the majority of those in need.
The rest are mostly taken care of, if you just have mental or money problems you won't be the streets and you won't have to beg for a living.
In Norway:)
I recently moved from Denmark to San Francisco... And whilst I do see many homeless people with mental issues, I also hear that there is not treatment facilities available.
Many homeless, here also looks like they are feeding an abuse. But I certainly also see homeless people who doesn't look like drug addicts or have mental issues.
In San Francisco you "have to see the poor" daily as well.
True,
The trouble with the homeless is that they are not just poor, there are usually multiple problems at work including mental issues... so seeing them and giving them money is usually not helping much.
The problem with the homeless, is also mental issues, etc... but all of this is a political issue. The US is allegedly a rich country, that your government chooses not to help is the problem.
Anyways, I've always wondered how god-fearing republicans can choose to not the help poor people, and then pretend they're doing the lords work.
Or just paying attention and buying a laptop with AMD instead of Nvidia.
Made that mistake 4 years ago... it wasn't any better...
I find the only thing that just works (tm) is Intel Graphics, but those are hard to find in highend laptops.
My current Thinkpad W530 has Nvida primus, so I disable just disabled the Nvida card and use the builtin intel card, which then won't connect to external screens.
The problem that others are having with DevOps is that they seem to be defining it differently than you are.
It's like agile... when it became hip to be agile, some people started reading thick books about it - at which point - the point is missed:)
DevOps is possible because you can rely on hosted services, like github, travis-ci, heroku (the whole push-to-deploy movement), EC2, AWS S3, Azure table Storage, and various other vendors like CloudAMQP, Heroku hosted postgres, etc...
All of these hosted services means that there is much less administration and maintenance, plus, these services can be provisioned with the push of a button, rather than filing a bug with IT and waiting 3 months for a result.
The problem is that some people misunderstand DevOps, and miss the point just like some people did with agile development.
Also just like agile development, DevOps isn't the right tool for everything.
True, my point was that if you wanted to revoke (or just require rekeying) of certificates for hosts that was exploited... You would get a lot of exposed hosts by just dealing with those are still exposed:)
I think there is enough low hanging fruit that dealing with people who did patch and rekey their certificates immediately is overkill... Or at least less critical than dealing with those still exposed.
"Hidden cost" I was talking is the cost to the producers that you don't see.. Such as unpacking your $201 arm sling:)
"The profit" is what you claim they don't hide anymore... And yeah, you're probably right.
$ 201 for an arm sling sounds like a decent business model.
Is it time to nationalize healthcare completely, just kidding. That's not realistic, but IMO, you need to remove or minimize the profit aspect of healthcare.
On an individual basis we're all willing to pay whatever we're asked, especially, since our insurance pays. But that is the problem, there is no optimization for value.
Conclusion: The free market healthcare is not cost efficient, which is why the US pays twice what other industrialized nations pays for healthcare per citizen.
A solution is a heavily regulated or more nationalized health care system. But I'm sure there are other solutions too. But good luck with that:)
You know what's even more user-friendly?
Just clicking the little update icon in the bottom right corner, entering your root password, and clicking OK.
I know how your type likes to hate on everything Linux without having any clue what you're talking about, but seriously, upgrading your distro isn't rocket science.
In all fairness, fixing a broken update can, however, be close to rocket science:)
I use linux, and will continue to... But in this day and age, with all desktops going towards composite window managers, sucky nvidia drivers is a pain in the ass.
But it's a matter of luck when buying a laptop...
The doctor may then take the now very high cost of the the item and build in his time to fit, assess, and follow up with you into the price of the item inflating it even higher.
True, there are hidden costs which you don't see if you 3D print your own hand:)
But, it not unreasonable to assume that there is no (or very little) competition on price in the medical industry. Especially, in the US.
Where there is profit to be made, patents to control and patients with insurances.
On topic, if I need a robohand, I would certainly prefer an open source finger; I mean if ever a security audit would be worth the effort... this would certainly be a case
- also it's would be ironic to write free software using a proprietary hand...
Unfortunately I have often seen old mechanical workhorses get tossed in the garbage bin and replaced with cheap plastic for trivial reasons such as faded letters or because it didn't have volume controls or media keys.
Which only tells us they're patched now, it doesn't tell them how much time the site was vulnerable.
There is probably still a great deal of unpatched openSSL deployments out there.. and it'll probably be a while before they're all patched (if ever)...
Slashdot Mirror
... The guy with a gmail address think mozilla doesn't sell him down the river? Seriously?
Correction, the guy with a private gmail address who also happens to be a Mozillian... No, he really, doesn't see that happening :)
Regarding the gmail address, I do wish I could easily migrate, but gmail is just too convenient at this point.
(Maybe I'll migrate someday).
Who pays Mozilla to use them as the default search engine ... Which I turn harvests every bit of data possible.
Well, there is a reason why in Firefox you search using the search-bar and not using the address bar. At least not everything doesn't get streamed to google.
Either way, the labs projects I've heard about seems to focus more on empowering users to decide what data to share. Which could be a win-win, I mean, let's not forget that sharing metadata can also be in the users interest (personalized search, or personalized news, etc...).
Either way. I have no doubts Mozillas intentions are pure. But you have to be pragmatic and make compromises, you can always improve the situation later...
California prison-guard unions are/were well known for lobbying for stricter drug laws
I'll believe that... But:
to increase their client base ;)
Really, if so... You have a different problem to solve first :)
Prison operation is now private and they want to grow the business.
I believe you on that one... But if cops and prison guards are advocating for more arrests and longer sentences in order to secure their jobs, you guys really need to fix that... :)
Maybe, offer a decent unemployment support so they don't have to be homeless if fired
Either way, cops should be trying to create more business for themselves. That's a problem to fix before trying to legalize soft drugs..
Because they themselves admitted they have no reason to believe this is actually harmful at the moment. They're preemptively banning things, which should be considered unacceptable in any truly free country.
They are proposing that an exception is revoked, so that all components of the industrialized food chain can be traced. Whether, this particular decision in that matter is of significance, is hard to say...
:)
Either way, head lines such as "Beer prices could go up" is not the way to debate this
It's pretty difficult to argue with them when they haven't provided a reason for why we need to keep a safe, nutritious, low-cost food out of the hands of farmers.
From TFA it seems you might in fact be right.. Quote:
“We don’t know of any problems,” McChesney said. “But we’re trying to get to a preventative mode.”
But that quote could in fact be a misrepresentation... More so, it seems from TFA that they are talking about ending an exception for breweries. IMO it is important to be able to trace food poisoning to their sources. All other components in the industrialized food chain can be traced. It certainly seems unreasonable that large breweries, to which is would incur little cost, doesn't have proper testing and tracking.
Cry freedom all you want, but when something goes bad in the industrialized food chain, millions of innocent people are affected. And if there is no trace, fixing the problem may take months or years.
Either way, I suspect slashdotters aren't experts in risk analysis for this field, so maybe we should just leave it to the experts. It's just proposed, farmers and breweries still have a say.
Also, it's only 10B... talking about foreign debt this is peanuts...
That said, getting debt paid off helps them make new debt and buy things from Russia or China...
i guarantee that at the slightest perceived provocation NK will shut off the gas. KIS is even more of a petulant child than KJI was.
Well... we'll see it easy for North Korea to be outraged over "the slightest perceived provocation" when they have nothing to loose.
:)
Maybe if we give them something to loose, they think twice before deciding to give it up...
It's not like the impoverishing measures currently in place has much effect.
The only places we've recently seen the population rise and demand democracy is in the middle east, wealth, internet, computer, etc. is required to facilitate this..
Right now, most North Koreans are probably more concern with securing their next meal, than fighting their oppressive government.
A don't think a new approach on North Korea can hurt, it's not like the current one works
Isn't it obvious at this point that everyone who can spy on you, will? There is no legal regulation, or simple pragmatic or moral restraint.
Remember Obama saying about the NSA, 'maybe just because we can gather some data doesn't mean we should' (paraphrased). It doesn't seem like others are even thinking about it, except Mozilla.
And the EU... but yeah, Mozilla, EFF, FSF are the primary private entities working for privacy.
Sure. But it would also take money/power from the police, police unions, prison guards unions, etc.
Come on, I refuse to believe that these entities are actively working to put more people in prison for no good reason.
:)
That's bullshit, police unions represents police officers, usually union policies are made by vote.
I refuse to believe that most police officers want to lock up people for no good reason
That said, they may very well have insights into why weed is bad. They may have experience traffic accidents, etc.
In that line, I think it's more likely that private prisons advocate for more prison time, etc. That would be the American thing to do
You must be kidding me. San Francisco has more resources for homeless people than any other US city. Food, shelter (Tenderloin), treatment, charity. That's why they flock here. It's like we're asking for it. And indeed, people voluntarily come, or get sent by other cities to come here. Haven't you had enough of it?
That's possible, by read the article... the guy is trying to get off the street...
So hypothetical, if you were kicked out tomorrow, without any possessions other than a blanket and your back account, assets etc. was gone... How would you get on top again?
There is 9k homeless in sf 1k shelters.. How do make yourself representable so you can apply for an unskilled job? How do you keep a room, apartment anything for 10 USD/hour? Will you be better off in another city and can you risk moving? How do you move?
The opportunity to ask Putin about surveillance... Surely Putin could be lying, who knows...
And yes, it was likely staged, Snowden was likely asked to ask the question and told specifically what to ask.
But getting the answer is still worth while, sure Putin could go back on his word. But the more he does that the more he is going to lose credibility.
You can catch someone lying if you don't ask the questions you expect them to lie about.
That said, Russia properly doesn't have the resources to do the same scale of surveillance, if so mr-former-KGB would probably implement it.
No. When the government is doing it, then it becomes a right to a resource that the person is entitled to.
Food, shelter, education and health care is not unreasonable rights :)
Anyways, private charity will never cover the need, never... I'm from a country where government works, and it does provide opportunity for people to get back on their feet.
There is still private charity for poor people, but they focus mainly on social aspects, or on the cases where a few fall through the state provided safety net.
My point is, private charity, will never cover more than edge cases. It's never enough to cover everybody, or even the majority of those in need.
The rest are mostly taken care of, if you just have mental or money problems you won't be the streets and you won't have to beg for a living.
In Norway :)
I recently moved from Denmark to San Francisco... And whilst I do see many homeless people with mental issues, I also hear that there is not treatment facilities available.
Many homeless, here also looks like they are feeding an abuse. But I certainly also see homeless people who doesn't look like drug addicts or have mental issues.
In San Francisco you "have to see the poor" daily as well.
True,
The trouble with the homeless is that they are not just poor, there are usually multiple problems at work including mental issues... so seeing them and giving them money is usually not helping much.
The problem with the homeless, is also mental issues, etc... but all of this is a political issue. The US is allegedly a rich country, that your government chooses not to help is the problem.
Anyways, I've always wondered how god-fearing republicans can choose to not the help poor people, and then pretend they're doing the lords work.
I recently mangled yum by running out of RAM mid-updates. That was ugly. Really ugly. Fixed it, but more through luck than skill.
Lol, that's impressive :)
Or just paying attention and buying a laptop with AMD instead of Nvidia.
Made that mistake 4 years ago... it wasn't any better...
I find the only thing that just works (tm) is Intel Graphics, but those are hard to find in highend laptops.
My current Thinkpad W530 has Nvida primus, so I disable just disabled the Nvida card and use the builtin intel card, which then won't connect to external screens.
The problem that others are having with DevOps is that they seem to be defining it differently than you are.
It's like agile... when it became hip to be agile, some people started reading thick books about it - at which point - the point is missed :)
DevOps is possible because you can rely on hosted services, like github, travis-ci, heroku (the whole push-to-deploy movement), EC2, AWS S3, Azure table Storage, and various other vendors like CloudAMQP, Heroku hosted postgres, etc...
All of these hosted services means that there is much less administration and maintenance, plus, these services can be provisioned with the push of a button, rather than filing a bug with IT and waiting 3 months for a result.
The problem is that some people misunderstand DevOps, and miss the point just like some people did with agile development.
Also just like agile development, DevOps isn't the right tool for everything.
So, nothing new...
That's what I do... Just get it runnning... then later, someone can fix it... Or not... And it can run until it crashes and burns...
:)
Unless, you're doing something really important "running it right" is often overkill
True, my point was that if you wanted to revoke (or just require rekeying) of certificates for hosts that was exploited... You would get a lot of exposed hosts by just dealing with those are still exposed :)
I think there is enough low hanging fruit that dealing with people who did patch and rekey their certificates immediately is overkill... Or at least less critical than dealing with those still exposed.
"Hidden cost" I was talking is the cost to the producers that you don't see.. Such as unpacking your $201 arm sling :)
:)
"The profit" is what you claim they don't hide anymore... And yeah, you're probably right.
$ 201 for an arm sling sounds like a decent business model.
Is it time to nationalize healthcare completely, just kidding. That's not realistic, but IMO, you need to remove or minimize the profit aspect of healthcare. On an individual basis we're all willing to pay whatever we're asked, especially, since our insurance pays. But that is the problem, there is no optimization for value.
Conclusion: The free market healthcare is not cost efficient, which is why the US pays twice what other industrialized nations pays for healthcare per citizen.
A solution is a heavily regulated or more nationalized health care system. But I'm sure there are other solutions too. But good luck with that
These debts are mostly from SSI aid to dependent children. The money is sent to the parents, but strictly speaking the children are the beneficiaries.
Interesting logic, so as a parent you could take out a loan with your child as liable for the debt... What could possibly go wrong :)
You know what's even more user-friendly? Just clicking the little update icon in the bottom right corner, entering your root password, and clicking OK.
I know how your type likes to hate on everything Linux without having any clue what you're talking about, but seriously, upgrading your distro isn't rocket science.
In all fairness, fixing a broken update can, however, be close to rocket science :)
I use linux, and will continue to... But in this day and age, with all desktops going towards composite window managers, sucky nvidia drivers is a pain in the ass.
But it's a matter of luck when buying a laptop...
The doctor may then take the now very high cost of the the item and build in his time to fit, assess, and follow up with you into the price of the item inflating it even higher.
True, there are hidden costs which you don't see if you 3D print your own hand :)
But, it not unreasonable to assume that there is no (or very little) competition on price in the medical industry. Especially, in the US.
Where there is profit to be made, patents to control and patients with insurances.
On topic, if I need a robohand, I would certainly prefer an open source finger; I mean if ever a security audit would be worth the effort... this would certainly be a case
- also it's would be ironic to write free software using a proprietary hand...
Unfortunately I have often seen old mechanical workhorses get tossed in the garbage bin and replaced with cheap plastic for trivial reasons such as faded letters or because it didn't have volume controls or media keys.
Or because it was dirty :)
Which only tells us they're patched now, it doesn't tell them how much time the site was vulnerable.
There is probably still a great deal of unpatched openSSL deployments out there.. and it'll probably be a while before they're all patched (if ever)...