The BSDs have carved out specific purposes for each other. OpenBSD wants 'security'. NetBSD wants portability. And FreeBSD wants to be the most useable on X86 processors via a combination of speed and a large number of packages.
To get security, you have to limit what you run, and that is counter to useability. (Microsoft claims to be the most useable, and look at all their secuity problems) Portability can be an issue with a large number of packages.
So:
1) No merger of Net/Open/Free
2) there is no Linux, there is over 190+ linuxes.
The only way it is 'theft' is if you do not honnor the copyright. Given the lack of a core team across the 190+ linux distro market, someone will 'steal' code.
At least with the BSD license, sharing is not mandated. So when someone shares back, you know it was because they wanted to share, not because they are forced to share.
To have microbrobes make CH4, they need to kept between 84 and 88 degrees. Rather hard/energy intensive. Not to mention 'strange off-gasses', stuff like sulfur, nitrates. All these off-gasses makes scubbers less useful and contimates fuel cells.
You can find a chemical to store hydrogen. That is how a battery works, or make a gas. These people are trying to make solid sodium and a possible product is PowerBalls Problem: It takes 2000 degrees to make solid sodium, and they use methane as part of the process....not very renewable.
You can store it as liquid H2. Getting H2 to -432 degrees takes power. And it is dangerously cold. BMW has been using this method in their hydrogen cars. A liter of liquid H2 has 39,000 watts of power. Alot of power in a small space.
You can store it as a compressed gas. At standard temp and pressure, a liter of H2 has 3.5 watts of power. Not alot of power here, is there? As you increase pressure, more H2 will work its way out of your tank, and embrittle the metal.
Finally, you can shove H2 inbetween metal. TiFe was patented in 1988, and automakers plan on selling Hydrogen cars in 2010. (Do the math, what technology becomes public domain?) Contaminated TiFe can be reclaimed (it is just like mining it) Ti Sponge (pure TI) goes for $3.80-$4.50 a pound. A research site Texico owns part of Ovonic has a few patents on this technology also.
Now, which way should one go here? LH2? Compressed H2? Chemical? or metal lattice storage?
Without good, "safe" storage, H2 won't be more than a playtoy. Anytime you generate, store or use power, there is danger. It is the preception of Hydrogen danger (hindenberg) that needs to be addressed. Some pinto drivers know how dagerous gasoline is...yet we 'accept' the dangers of Gas. Oh, wait. gasoline, Natural Gas, Propane are chemically stored Hydrogen! Eeek, the horror!
Because the power provideres LIKE their state sponsered monopoly. It is in their interest to suffer line losses, as opposed to people putting up solar, or heating their homes with co-generation solutions GE's fuel cell solution that does NOT do co-generation, and you still can't buy or this stirling cycle engine that needs to have the cool side cooled, you could use this in a radiant heat system and a hot water tank pre-heater. (Yea, if mass produced could be in a $3k range or less, but is $16K today)
How does the power company keep its monopoly? By requiring you to take out insurance to have a grid-intertied power generation JUST to reduce your load on the grid. (In my case $180 a year. That happens to be $10 less than the electricity my 'proposed' PV would have generated in a year at $0.07 kwH) Why the insurance? Because the utility workes might get a shock....nevermind if there is no AC power on an intertie unit, the unit shuts down.
Look at oil prices, at $20 a barrel. Why? Because right now, there is a vocal group calling to get off Arab-obtained oil as a way to avoid/solve the terrorist issue. By keeping oil prices low, the demand to move from cheap energy to more expensive renewable solutions will be blunted, and the 'energy independance' voices will fade, as the masses go back to driving their big SUV's and cheap power.
How many of you remember when Scully left Apple and Micheal Spindler was large and in charge?
He stood in front of the assembled masses and said "We are committed to maintaining high shareholder value."
Microsoft is now doing exactly what Apple did. Microsoft is working to maximize its cash flow, and that means taking as much as they can from the pockets of its customers. Doing anything BUT this might subject them to shareholder lawsuits.
Just like IBM once did. And Apple once did. Both companies had a crash and burn phase, and have had a rebuilding phase. Microsoft is now heading to the crash and burn phase. They will eventually rebuild, as they are a cash rich company.
If you actually LOOK at what OpenPackages is doing, not only does it work with the BSD's, some of the 190+ linux versions, but also with AIX, HP/UX and other Unix platforms.
OpenPackages is a universal solution. GNU-Darwin is less than universal.
Depends on what you want. To be inclusive or exclusive.
In 'trouble with tribbles' Odo asks Worf that "If these were klingons, where are the ridges" and worf says something like It is an internal klingon matter, we don't discuss this with outsiders.
Mentioned, yes. Resolved, well, no.
Ridged Klingon's were in the movie version before TNG.
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I'd be happy to call you....Oh, wait you are an AC, and most/. users don't hand out their number.
So, how am I supposed to call you?
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So what you are saying is you are a linux bigot, you whine when someone posts a FACT that FreeBSD had usb support before Linux.
What is amazing is that moderators are such mindless sheep to follow your whining. March off the cliff Linux Lemmings! Dance to the puppet master spencley-sales!!!!
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Hey Troll whiner.....where is your links to DISPROVE MY STATEMENT that FreeBSD had USB support before Apple and BOTH had it before Linux? Oh, wait, you have no facts....just linux hype and got a moderator to back it up.
(and for the record, NetBSD had it Before FreeBSD)
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NetBSD may have been 1st. I don't track NetBSD. I do know wihin 2 weeks of FreeBSD's announcement, Appple supported USB....and Linux lagged in this case.
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Hey, self-taught programming freak-boy......do you actually have proof that FreeBSD's annoucne suppro wans't days before Apple announced USP supprt, and BOTH parties had USB support before any Linux Distro shipped w/USP support?
You are quick to whine, quick to ask for moderators, but where is your proof that I'm wrong?
Links, whiner boy....links.
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And FreeBSD (not to mention Apple) had support for USB before GNU/Linux.
Do not get too high on your horse about how superior Linux is, cuz well, someone will knock ya down.
Windows: Where do you want to go today
Linux: Where do you want to go tomarrow
BSD: Hey! Are you guys comming or what?!?!?!
Isn't this the same HP that said in 1995-1996
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That UNIX was dead, they wern't going to do much more with HP/UX, and instead go with NT?
The losers: Alpha (duh) and VMS.
Ipaq's are a different form factor than the other HP products, so they may survive beyond the merger.
Who can stop this: The government (I doubt) and the stock market. If the market thinks this is two failing companies combining, hey will drop both stock prices.
Either way, Tue will be interesting tay for tech writers.
to be mass marketed was the eMate. The marketing included a teacher mode, networking via IR, and a rugged case with long battery life.
Many studies were done and a few schools bought them.
In fact, at a national educators conference on March 3rd, Apple reps said "The Newton is an important part of our product line" Someone pointed out that Apple dropped the line 4 days early on the 27th of Feb, as so the rep had to remove some egg from his face.
Exactly. The lousy Microsoft software *IS* damanging me by consuming my bandwidth, my resources.
If their software was not such a hazzard, there would not be things like Sir Cam or code red or..... The *REST* of the world has standards of quality and responsiblity for their products. Why not software and Microsoft?
Providers like above.net , quest et la have it far worse. They pay $400 per meg of bandwidth.
1) they have money.
2) If you are runnng, oh say unix, you didn't agree to their licence.
3) Their shoddy product is unsafe on the information superhighway, and create unsafe conditions for the others.
Microsoft has had staffers and employees state the goal is to push out new product, andding features over 'good code' or fixing old bugs. You might just get #3 to stick.
All you have to do is get a jury to buy #3. The lawyers will like 1 and 2.
Palm is more likely to be NI (Newton Intelligence)
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37~ of the Palm workers are old Newton workers. (32 of them quit on one friday and left for palm)
The new palms are ARM, just like the Newton.
Apple has been rumored to have a "palm" for 3 years. If Palm had negotiated a contract correctly, they woudl be free and clear of encumberence with Apple after 2 years after Apple dropped the option to use Palm. It has been 2 years from the last strong "rumors", and lo and behold, the ARM target is annouced.
(Why did JEff/donna leave palm? Well, graffitti was going to be slaughtered in favor of the Rosetta interface. Yup, Real printing nterface to the palm.)
In short, Be is not a choice, given the strong Newton background of the Palm staff. (Graffiti was a MP100 App. 1st)
Orrin Hatch is alledged to have said that felt the DMCA was not working as they, the congress had intended.
Does ANYONE have a collection of links to the lawmakers who have said "whoops" WRT the DMCA? The dates/places where they said "whoops"? Or, where there is a big disconnect between public statements made at the time by the DMCA supporters then VS later? (IE - We need this to protect our property in case the encryption is broken, then later say XOR is sufficent because the law protects us)
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for free Unix-like OSes (Linux + 3 BSD)
Sorry, there are 190+ Linuxes.
The BSDs have carved out specific purposes for each other. OpenBSD wants 'security'. NetBSD wants portability. And FreeBSD wants to be the most useable on X86 processors via a combination of speed and a large number of packages.
To get security, you have to limit what you run, and that is counter to useability. (Microsoft claims to be the most useable, and look at all their secuity problems) Portability can be an issue with a large number of packages.
So:
1) No merger of Net/Open/Free
2) there is no Linux, there is over 190+ linuxes.
The only way it is 'theft' is if you do not honnor the copyright. Given the lack of a core team across the 190+ linux distro market, someone will 'steal' code.
At least with the BSD license, sharing is not mandated. So when someone shares back, you know it was because they wanted to share, not because they are forced to share.
Except that if we went all nuke, there is only enough fuel to provide 10% coverage.
And solar cells may be made with 'nasty' toxins, but what is plutionium? And gamma radiation? A walk in the park?
I used to be pro-nuke, but have moderated that POV, because it has some hard to overcome problems.
No matter what, *ALL* power is solar. Some from long burned out stars, some in hydrocarbons, some in wind, and some in PV.
To have microbrobes make CH4, they need to kept between 84 and 88 degrees. Rather hard/energy intensive. Not to mention 'strange off-gasses', stuff like sulfur, nitrates. All these off-gasses makes scubbers less useful and contimates fuel cells.
Renewable, well, sorrta.
You can find a chemical to store hydrogen. That is how a battery works, or make a gas. These people are trying to make solid sodium and a possible product is PowerBalls Problem: It takes 2000 degrees to make solid sodium, and they use methane as part of the process....not very renewable.
You can store it as liquid H2. Getting H2 to -432 degrees takes power. And it is dangerously cold. BMW has been using this method in their hydrogen cars. A liter of liquid H2 has 39,000 watts of power. Alot of power in a small space.
You can store it as a compressed gas. At standard temp and pressure, a liter of H2 has 3.5 watts of power. Not alot of power here, is there? As you increase pressure, more H2 will work its way out of your tank, and embrittle the metal.
Finally, you can shove H2 inbetween metal. TiFe was patented in 1988, and automakers plan on selling Hydrogen cars in 2010. (Do the math, what technology becomes public domain?) Contaminated TiFe can be reclaimed (it is just like mining it) Ti Sponge (pure TI) goes for $3.80-$4.50 a pound. A research site Texico owns part of Ovonic has a few patents on this technology also.
Now, which way should one go here? LH2? Compressed H2? Chemical? or metal lattice storage?
Without good, "safe" storage, H2 won't be more than a playtoy. Anytime you generate, store or use power, there is danger. It is the preception of Hydrogen danger (hindenberg) that needs to be addressed. Some pinto drivers know how dagerous gasoline is...yet we 'accept' the dangers of Gas. Oh, wait. gasoline, Natural Gas, Propane are chemically stored Hydrogen! Eeek, the horror!
Because the power provideres LIKE their state sponsered monopoly. It is in their interest to suffer line losses, as opposed to people putting up solar, or heating their homes with co-generation solutions GE's fuel cell solution that does NOT do co-generation, and you still can't buy or this stirling cycle engine that needs to have the cool side cooled, you could use this in a radiant heat system and a hot water tank pre-heater. (Yea, if mass produced could be in a $3k range or less, but is $16K today)
How does the power company keep its monopoly? By requiring you to take out insurance to have a grid-intertied power generation JUST to reduce your load on the grid. (In my case $180 a year. That happens to be $10 less than the electricity my 'proposed' PV would have generated in a year at $0.07 kwH) Why the insurance? Because the utility workes might get a shock....nevermind if there is no AC power on an intertie unit, the unit shuts down.
Look at oil prices, at $20 a barrel. Why? Because right now, there is a vocal group calling to get off Arab-obtained oil as a way to avoid/solve the terrorist issue. By keeping oil prices low, the demand to move from cheap energy to more expensive renewable solutions will be blunted, and the 'energy independance' voices will fade, as the masses go back to driving their big SUV's and cheap power.
How many of you remember when Scully left Apple and Micheal Spindler was large and in charge?
He stood in front of the assembled masses and said "We are committed to maintaining high shareholder value."
Microsoft is now doing exactly what Apple did. Microsoft is working to maximize its cash flow, and that means taking as much as they can from the pockets of its customers. Doing anything BUT this might subject them to shareholder lawsuits.
Just like IBM once did. And Apple once did. Both companies had a crash and burn phase, and have had a rebuilding phase. Microsoft is now heading to the crash and burn phase. They will eventually rebuild, as they are a cash rich company.
If you actually LOOK at what OpenPackages is doing, not only does it work with the BSD's, some of the 190+ linux versions, but also with AIX, HP/UX and other Unix platforms.
OpenPackages is a universal solution. GNU-Darwin is less than universal.
Depends on what you want. To be inclusive or exclusive.
Go to Windows 3.1, or even Win 95. You could get wrong answers due to the improper division and rounding errors.
Oh, such quality!
Evans Data Corporation, a market research company focused on the software development community, is the one that called FreeBSD "A linux distro"_ id=1748
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In 'trouble with tribbles' Odo asks Worf that "If these were klingons, where are the ridges" and worf says something like It is an internal klingon matter, we don't discuss this with outsiders.
Mentioned, yes. Resolved, well, no.
Ridged Klingon's were in the movie version before TNG.
I'd be happy to call you....Oh, wait you are an AC, and most /. users don't hand out their number.
So, how am I supposed to call you?
So what you are saying is you are a linux bigot, you whine when someone posts a FACT that FreeBSD had usb support before Linux.
What is amazing is that moderators are such mindless sheep to follow your whining. March off the cliff Linux Lemmings! Dance to the puppet master spencley-sales!!!!
Hey Troll whiner.....where is your links to DISPROVE MY STATEMENT that FreeBSD had USB support before Apple and BOTH had it before Linux? Oh, wait, you have no facts....just linux hype and got a moderator to back it up.
(and for the record, NetBSD had it Before FreeBSD)
NetBSD may have been 1st. I don't track NetBSD. I do know wihin 2 weeks of FreeBSD's announcement, Appple supported USB....and Linux lagged in this case.
Hey, self-taught programming freak-boy......do you actually have proof that FreeBSD's annoucne suppro wans't days before Apple announced USP supprt, and BOTH parties had USB support before any Linux Distro shipped w/USP support?
You are quick to whine, quick to ask for moderators, but where is your proof that I'm wrong?
Links, whiner boy....links.
And FreeBSD (not to mention Apple) had support for USB before GNU/Linux.
Do not get too high on your horse about how superior Linux is, cuz well, someone will knock ya down.
Windows: Where do you want to go today
Linux: Where do you want to go tomarrow
BSD: Hey! Are you guys comming or what?!?!?!
That UNIX was dead, they wern't going to do much more with HP/UX, and instead go with NT?
The losers: Alpha (duh) and VMS.
Ipaq's are a different form factor than the other HP products, so they may survive beyond the merger.
Who can stop this: The government (I doubt) and the stock market. If the market thinks this is two failing companies combining, hey will drop both stock prices.
Either way, Tue will be interesting tay for tech writers.
to be mass marketed was the eMate. The marketing included a teacher mode, networking via IR, and a rugged case with long battery life.
Many studies were done and a few schools bought them.
In fact, at a national educators conference on March 3rd, Apple reps said "The Newton is an important part of our product line" Someone pointed out that Apple dropped the line 4 days early on the 27th of Feb, as so the rep had to remove some egg from his face.
Exactly. The lousy Microsoft software *IS* damanging me by consuming my bandwidth, my resources.
If their software was not such a hazzard, there would not be things like Sir Cam or code red or..... The *REST* of the world has standards of quality and responsiblity for their products. Why not software and Microsoft?
Providers like above.net , quest et la have it far worse. They pay $400 per meg of bandwidth.
So you are saying that the maker of an unsafe product has *NO* liability?
How about a product that is dangerous?
Damages could also include additional bandwidth consumed hat you paid for, and time to manage the damage.
Think too of including e-mailed and other viruses....All the things that make Microsoft a poor neighbor.
Benefit to the consumer? When the cost of writting good code is less than the shlock they now produce, the code will get better.
1) they have money.
2) If you are runnng, oh say unix, you didn't agree to their licence.
3) Their shoddy product is unsafe on the information superhighway, and create unsafe conditions for the others.
Microsoft has had staffers and employees state the goal is to push out new product, andding features over 'good code' or fixing old bugs. You might just get #3 to stick.
All you have to do is get a jury to buy #3. The lawyers will like 1 and 2.
37~ of the Palm workers are old Newton workers. (32 of them quit on one friday and left for palm)
The new palms are ARM, just like the Newton.
Apple has been rumored to have a "palm" for 3 years. If Palm had negotiated a contract correctly, they woudl be free and clear of encumberence with Apple after 2 years after Apple dropped the option to use Palm. It has been 2 years from the last strong "rumors", and lo and behold, the ARM target is annouced.
(Why did JEff/donna leave palm? Well, graffitti was going to be slaughtered in favor of the Rosetta interface. Yup, Real printing nterface to the palm.)
In short, Be is not a choice, given the strong Newton background of the Palm staff. (Graffiti was a MP100 App. 1st)
Orrin Hatch is alledged to have said that felt the DMCA was not working as they, the congress had intended.
Does ANYONE have a collection of links to the lawmakers who have said "whoops" WRT the DMCA? The dates/places where they said "whoops"? Or, where there is a big disconnect between public statements made at the time by the DMCA supporters then VS later? (IE - We need this to protect our property in case the encryption is broken, then later say XOR is sufficent because the law protects us)