I agree. It's of course by practice and not law. And the banks using BankID (the product requiring java) are probably complaining too and I hope to see this change. However, bills and mortgages have to be paid in the meantime so if you live in Norway Java is required (or queue up at the bank office).. The law should say that there wouldn't be just 1 point of entry to use online banking (by e.g. allowing a free java alternative or something else entirely).
There is a mobile offering, but it's using GSM, so I don't feel it's secure.
I think it's more of an "emotional choice". That's why this won't' work.
When you ignore the warning signals your body sends you, it's because you're either in a fuckitall state, super bravery or simply in denial. Not because you didn't have any warning.
Any glowing ice cubes will be dismissed as malfunction.
I made a project like this at my previous work, since people were all over the world. But I couldn't justify the bandwidth usage in third world countries so IRC ftw!
I'm just guessing here, but it's probably a political issue since investigations show that some 80% of restaurants/bars were using dual records, one official and one unofficial.
The discussion doesn't make sense after the fact. The deed is done. And we should have helped him choose otherwise.
However, most ethical frameworks regards the choice to end your own freedom as an unfree choice. Kant goes as far as saying that it is immoral; it is an attack on his humanity and ours as well (thus, we should not kill ourselves with regards to others, like others have a moral responsibility to help us not commit suicide).
I think the discussion's _really_ about having a productive attitude towards understanding. As long as people have that, we learn new things about our selves and the world. But at some point understanding requires more time and effort than a hobby, and that's when people bring in "but this isn't in my job description". They may still have a productive attitude towards it.
As an aside, I find it rather strange that we have completely missed the point about "basic programming", namely, that it is formal logic. So better tools of programming literacy (for novices) should perhaps start with logics and not their representatives in different languages..
Btw, the local retirement home has advertised for a volunteer to teach people "the Internet", and I am looking into applying for it:)
You are reading way too much into it. What people say isn't a binary:)
I'm just saying that it isn't practical nor desirable for everyone to have the same skills. To have a basic understanding of e.g. history, is desirable. To be a historian I leave up to the historians. Same for programming. But a programmer should know the basics of history, it will only serve her/him in real life.
See? It's as though we didn't even have a disagreement to begin with!
Windows is pervasive in schools and academia. Like Adobe CS is for creative ad studies.
If Linux wants more than a foothold in the business world (client side) she needs to be the go-to experience people have from they are young.
The reason it doesn't happen is not only because MS drops prices when such projects are planned, but lack of public funding. Make an official, standardized, _national_ Linux distro that satisfy both formal as well as democratic requirements.
MS for instance, is anti-transparent. Transparency is important in democracy. F/OSS is democratic.
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I agree. It's of course by practice and not law. And the banks using BankID (the product requiring java) are probably complaining too and I hope to see this change. However, bills and mortgages have to be paid in the meantime so if you live in Norway Java is required (or queue up at the bank office).. The law should say that there wouldn't be just 1 point of entry to use online banking (by e.g. allowing a free java alternative or something else entirely).
There is a mobile offering, but it's using GSM, so I don't feel it's secure.
In some countries this is not an option.
All online banking in Norway requires Java. And it doesn't work with the F/OSS alternatives.
Going to the local bank office is not an option for many, it could be several hours driving.
I think it's more of an "emotional choice". That's why this won't' work.
When you ignore the warning signals your body sends you, it's because you're either in a fuckitall state, super bravery or simply in denial. Not because you didn't have any warning.
Any glowing ice cubes will be dismissed as malfunction.
However, would be nice conversation topic!
touchscreens may be literally out of reach.
Get a cane. Or, use some free chopsticks from the restaurant, you cheapskate!
I sometimes boggle the concept of booting FC17 with Gnome, and then the first thing I do is fire up a terminal.
Usually I'll not do anything outside the terminal before shutting down, perhaps just Firefox. CLI is really powerful.
My money will go to the manufacturers who will provide "old school" displays.
Here's your VT100 sir.
I had the same conviction when I ordered my T61 when widescreen was just a fad.
I get some puzzled looks when I fire up my 4:3 ratio laptop at the uni. Many of them have never seen it before (!).
You couldn't be more right, sir. It's hard and can land you several years in prison.
So. Who's up for some methamphetamine?
I made a project like this at my previous work, since people were all over the world. But I couldn't justify the bandwidth usage in third world countries so IRC ftw!
Can I root for no one to win, but for it to remain a stalemate with several competitors?
Or do we all need to wave the flag for one uncaring corporate juggernaut or another?
No.no.no
If you want to wave a flag, you're talking semaphore, something like the kinect.
This is touch.
I wonder how they could be found guilty of stealing them.
That's because you follow logic. Big corporations follow the law.
Incidentally, they own it as well.
I'd like them to start widespread persecution so we the people could get rid of them once and for all.
164K should be enough for anyone.
I'm just guessing here, but it's probably a political issue since investigations show that some 80% of restaurants/bars were using dual records, one official and one unofficial.
The discussion doesn't make sense after the fact. The deed is done. And we should have helped him choose otherwise.
However, most ethical frameworks regards the choice to end your own freedom as an unfree choice. Kant goes as far as saying that it is immoral; it is an attack on his humanity and ours as well (thus, we should not kill ourselves with regards to others, like others have a moral responsibility to help us not commit suicide).
I think the discussion's _really_ about having a productive attitude towards understanding. As long as people have that, we learn new things about our selves and the world. But at some point understanding requires more time and effort than a hobby, and that's when people bring in "but this isn't in my job description". They may still have a productive attitude towards it.
As an aside, I find it rather strange that we have completely missed the point about "basic programming", namely, that it is formal logic. So better tools of programming literacy (for novices) should perhaps start with logics and not their representatives in different languages..
Btw, the local retirement home has advertised for a volunteer to teach people "the Internet", and I am looking into applying for it:)
Variation is key. Sometimes, stand on your desk.
Functional definition:
Planet. Place to beam the away-team. (Related: phasers, red shirts, Scotty)
Or as the Buddha said: "Time? Don't' think about time."
ITSATRAP!
You are reading way too much into it. What people say isn't a binary:)
I'm just saying that it isn't practical nor desirable for everyone to have the same skills. To have a basic understanding of e.g. history, is desirable. To be a historian I leave up to the historians. Same for programming. But a programmer should know the basics of history, it will only serve her/him in real life.
See? It's as though we didn't even have a disagreement to begin with!
Windows is pervasive in schools and academia. Like Adobe CS is for creative ad studies.
If Linux wants more than a foothold in the business world (client side) she needs to be the go-to experience people have from they are young.
The reason it doesn't happen is not only because MS drops prices when such projects are planned, but lack of public funding. Make an official, standardized, _national_ Linux distro that satisfy both formal as well as democratic requirements.
MS for instance, is anti-transparent. Transparency is important in democracy. F/OSS is democratic.
You are saying it is more like literature.
Not knowing the grammar (+culture) is bad programming.
When you actually know how to write, style of execution is individual.
Hang on, sirs. We _must_ consider the consequences!
4K porn?
*shudder*
Which is equivalent to saying the knife was responsible for the stab wound.
Aristotle writes (Metaphysics VIII-IX): "A movement in which the end is present is an action."
Or using Anscombe's example. If I poison the well it wasn't the inhabitants that killed themselves by drinking the water.
You always pull the trigger to shoot, even if you're controlling a drone on another planet. Everything between is just an extension of your intention.
If you want to investigate absurdly intricate murders, check out Philosophy of Action;)
Wasn't copyright an invention for kings to benefit from and censure publications?
Perhaps we should find an arrangement for _democracy_?