Do you know why I have a grandson? Because I FUCKED my wife, and she had our daughter. And then my daughter fucked her husband, and my grandson was the result.
I know sex is foreign to a lot of people here, but you seem to have missed the entire concept of reproduction.
So it may be one of those things that balances out in the end.
Notice the use of the word may. That suggests that it is possible, but not guaranteed. And of course it's not true statistics. That's obvious to anyone. When you consider that we don't have very good data, it's pointless to try to apply formal statistical methods. Either way the results will not be of a high quality.
However, we do have these two "forces" that are counteracting each other. As such, the effects of each are diminished somewhat, even if we do not know the exact magnitude of each, or exactly how much they cancel. The point is that the effect of multiple downloads from individuals is mitigated somewhat by multiple installations from a single download by businesses/schools.
What it comes down to is pretty simple: APT/dpkg works, and RPM is a hassle.
Trying to use RPMs with APT is possible, but like I stated before, messy as all hell. And more often than not it fails quite badly.
One big issue with RPM is that it's slow. This is mainly due to its use of Berkeley DB. It's not that Berkeley DB is slow (it of course isn't, as most know), but rather because of the journalling/transaction layer they build on top of it. Of course, APT uses sensible text files that do not need to be reconstructed every now and then.
And that's just one of the main issues. There are many others. APT isn't perfect, but it is a hell of a lot better in many respects. There's no need for RPM-based systems when APT works far better, and is just as free.
Like I said, he's probably just telling them that they "must" use Outlook to make his job easier. Perhaps you could go talk to this administrator, in a friendly manner, and ask him to consider offering support for products such as Thunderbird and Seamonkey.
Instead of labelling him a "liar" or a "moron", why don't you go find out why he takes that stance? Even if he doesn't know about the alternatives, you could always enlighten him. Perhaps it'd be easier for him to recommend Thunderbird if you can point out to him how it'll be beneficial to the teachers, as well as himself.
Then you generate RTF, PS or HTML files from the LaTeX source. It works like a charm.
Indeed, it'd be great if they could come up with something better. But it seems that they can't. That's why they're running into so many problems. Indeed, being able to read the various formats is a problem, especially when they're some proprietary binary format. That's why using plaintext, LaTeX and PDF files works so well: they're well documented, non-obfuscated, and are easily transmittable.
This comes up every time such stats are mentioned.
First of all, they don't track downloads via the update feature of Firefox.
Second, while you've downloaded it ten times, there are many businesses and schools who have installed it on hundreds of workstations from a single download. So it may be one of those things that balances out in the end.
And finally, it's not so much about the exact number. It's about the general magnitude of the number. Even if they're 10 million downloads off either way, that's still an impressive number of people to reach.
Will your reps actually do anything? Do any of them have the guts to stand up to this? Are they capable of saying, "This is not in the best interest of freedom. This will not prevent terrorism. This is a bad idea."
Indeed, if there's one thing that we can learn from this whole OpenDocument debacle, it's that we should instead use LaTeX and plaintext.
Plaintext emails and memos work just fine. LaTeX is fantastic for more complex documents. And you can even output PDFs of documents, if you really want to make viewing easy and exact.
These new technologies seem to bring nothing but problems, especially when the existing formats work so well.
Have you considered why he might recommend they use Outlook? Well, the first thing that comes to mind is that it's already installed on many desktop PCs. So that saves him time from having to install it on basically every teacher's home system. Then there's the fact that he can give everyone one set of instructions on how to configure it. That also probably saves him time.
You paint him as some awful villain, as if he is trying to intentionally destroy all those teachers' systems by using Outlook Express. Perhaps he's being the opposite of a "moron," and rather just doing what makes his job easiest. That's not stupid. That's a smart thing to do, from his perspective.
If you truly want people to get away from using Microsoft products, then you'll have to make some sacrifice. Yes, you may have to help those particular teachers install and configure Thunderbird. It'd be even better if you could create and print up a single page that'll tell them exactly how it can be done. Give them pictorial instructions about what exact server address, etc., to enter, and where to enter them.
RPM, be it the various RPM package managers and the RPM package format itself, are redundant. They are both trumped by dpkg and APT, especially when it comes to being used by people who are not overly technical. RPM leads to trouble. dpkg/APT just works.
His PCMCIA wireless networking card worked just fine, without any manual configuration. I remember recalling that that may be a problem point, but it wasn't. I don't think he's much into games. He was playing TuxRacer, but wasn't too amused. He's working on learning Python, and got tired with it not working too well under Windows. I suggested he try Linux, and frankly I was surprised by how easily Ubuntu installed for him.
It's pointless to use APT with RPM files, because dpkg files work far better. APT tries to convert RPM files into dpkg files before installing them. And it quickly becomes a mess. It's perhaps even worse than the situation a decade or so ago.
Have you ever actually used APT with RPM packages? It's awful. Why is that? Because APT tries to convert the RPM to a dpkg package. And do you know what? It rarely works, even with packages that are without any major dependencies. Once you start working those in, well, you're truly screwed. That's why it's best just to avoid RPM files completely.
Yum and urpmi, amongst others, do not compare in any way to APT. They try to solve the same problem, but unfortunately they fail quite miserably. That said, the only other packaging systems comparable to APT is the FreeBSD packages/ports system, as well as pkgsrc.
Why don't you explain to her that she may not have to use Outlook, even if they say that she does? Don't get technical. Maybe even set up Seamonkey or Thunderbird for her, just to show her that it can be done and how much better off it will make her.
The problems you mention are often caused by using a distro that's based around RPM files. While revolutionary a decade or so ago, they're quite terrible today. Like you mentioned, the dependencies are a real killer. That's why it's best to use a distribution like Debian or Ubuntu, or even FreeBSD, to get around those problems. Systems like that have real packaging systems that take care of dependencies. Avoid Fedora, perhaps even Slackware, and instead stick with Debian.
You should have pulled down her pants and rubbed Tux on her clitoris. Tease her vaginal hole with his round head. Just put it in slightly, to get her really excited. Then slip his beak in her wet pink, and have it gently rub her g-spot until she orgasms in a shower of woman juice. If she still doesn't want to use Linux after that, then she's a lost cause.
Let it cultivate. That approach will only go so far. Once applications become moderately complex, that whole methodology of programming collapses. Frankly, I wouldn't mind if it took with it the people who fell for it. They probably shouldn't be working as programmers anyways.
Those are the types of issues you should expect when using distributions like Gentoo and Slackware. If you want stuff to just work right away, consider using Debian or a Debian-derived distro, or perhaps even SuSE. But stay away from Fedora. It's been nothing but problems for me, and the alternatives are far superior.
Well, your answer could potentially be Yes, No, Perhaps, Maybe, Only on Tuesdays, Sure, Yup, Nope, I don't know, or any number of other replies to such a question.
And no, his potentially incorrect analysis does not make this phenomenon itself "bullshit" (to use such an uncouth word). Much like the incorrect analysis of alchemists didn't "invalidate" the various phenomena of chemistry. After all, perhaps in the future we'll find that he was correct, and you were not. It's something that has happened many times before in the history of science. He who is wrong violently attacks those who suggest alternative theories, and yet the alternative theories turn out to be completely correct.
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Do you know why I have a grandson? Because I FUCKED my wife, and she had our daughter. And then my daughter fucked her husband, and my grandson was the result.
I know sex is foreign to a lot of people here, but you seem to have missed the entire concept of reproduction.
Let's look at my exact quote, shall we?
So it may be one of those things that balances out in the end.
Notice the use of the word may. That suggests that it is possible, but not guaranteed. And of course it's not true statistics. That's obvious to anyone. When you consider that we don't have very good data, it's pointless to try to apply formal statistical methods. Either way the results will not be of a high quality.
However, we do have these two "forces" that are counteracting each other. As such, the effects of each are diminished somewhat, even if we do not know the exact magnitude of each, or exactly how much they cancel. The point is that the effect of multiple downloads from individuals is mitigated somewhat by multiple installations from a single download by businesses/schools.
I've never actually watched an episode of Star Trek. Indeed, that is unusual around here.
You should be careful to call the more recent, XML-based format "OpenDocument", rather than "OpenDoc".
OpenDoc was a software component system developed in the early-to-mid 1990s by Apple, in response to OLE.
What it comes down to is pretty simple: APT/dpkg works, and RPM is a hassle.
Trying to use RPMs with APT is possible, but like I stated before, messy as all hell. And more often than not it fails quite badly.
One big issue with RPM is that it's slow. This is mainly due to its use of Berkeley DB. It's not that Berkeley DB is slow (it of course isn't, as most know), but rather because of the journalling/transaction layer they build on top of it. Of course, APT uses sensible text files that do not need to be reconstructed every now and then.
And that's just one of the main issues. There are many others. APT isn't perfect, but it is a hell of a lot better in many respects. There's no need for RPM-based systems when APT works far better, and is just as free.
Like I said, he's probably just telling them that they "must" use Outlook to make his job easier. Perhaps you could go talk to this administrator, in a friendly manner, and ask him to consider offering support for products such as Thunderbird and Seamonkey.
Instead of labelling him a "liar" or a "moron", why don't you go find out why he takes that stance? Even if he doesn't know about the alternatives, you could always enlighten him. Perhaps it'd be easier for him to recommend Thunderbird if you can point out to him how it'll be beneficial to the teachers, as well as himself.
Then you generate RTF, PS or HTML files from the LaTeX source. It works like a charm.
Indeed, it'd be great if they could come up with something better. But it seems that they can't. That's why they're running into so many problems. Indeed, being able to read the various formats is a problem, especially when they're some proprietary binary format. That's why using plaintext, LaTeX and PDF files works so well: they're well documented, non-obfuscated, and are easily transmittable.
This comes up every time such stats are mentioned.
First of all, they don't track downloads via the update feature of Firefox.
Second, while you've downloaded it ten times, there are many businesses and schools who have installed it on hundreds of workstations from a single download. So it may be one of those things that balances out in the end.
And finally, it's not so much about the exact number. It's about the general magnitude of the number. Even if they're 10 million downloads off either way, that's still an impressive number of people to reach.
Will your reps actually do anything? Do any of them have the guts to stand up to this? Are they capable of saying, "This is not in the best interest of freedom. This will not prevent terrorism. This is a bad idea."
Indeed, if there's one thing that we can learn from this whole OpenDocument debacle, it's that we should instead use LaTeX and plaintext.
Plaintext emails and memos work just fine. LaTeX is fantastic for more complex documents. And you can even output PDFs of documents, if you really want to make viewing easy and exact.
These new technologies seem to bring nothing but problems, especially when the existing formats work so well.
Have you considered why he might recommend they use Outlook? Well, the first thing that comes to mind is that it's already installed on many desktop PCs. So that saves him time from having to install it on basically every teacher's home system. Then there's the fact that he can give everyone one set of instructions on how to configure it. That also probably saves him time.
You paint him as some awful villain, as if he is trying to intentionally destroy all those teachers' systems by using Outlook Express. Perhaps he's being the opposite of a "moron," and rather just doing what makes his job easiest. That's not stupid. That's a smart thing to do, from his perspective.
If you truly want people to get away from using Microsoft products, then you'll have to make some sacrifice. Yes, you may have to help those particular teachers install and configure Thunderbird. It'd be even better if you could create and print up a single page that'll tell them exactly how it can be done. Give them pictorial instructions about what exact server address, etc., to enter, and where to enter them.
RPM, be it the various RPM package managers and the RPM package format itself, are redundant. They are both trumped by dpkg and APT, especially when it comes to being used by people who are not overly technical. RPM leads to trouble. dpkg/APT just works.
His PCMCIA wireless networking card worked just fine, without any manual configuration. I remember recalling that that may be a problem point, but it wasn't. I don't think he's much into games. He was playing TuxRacer, but wasn't too amused. He's working on learning Python, and got tired with it not working too well under Windows. I suggested he try Linux, and frankly I was surprised by how easily Ubuntu installed for him.
It's pointless to use APT with RPM files, because dpkg files work far better. APT tries to convert RPM files into dpkg files before installing them. And it quickly becomes a mess. It's perhaps even worse than the situation a decade or so ago.
Have you ever actually used APT with RPM packages? It's awful. Why is that? Because APT tries to convert the RPM to a dpkg package. And do you know what? It rarely works, even with packages that are without any major dependencies. Once you start working those in, well, you're truly screwed. That's why it's best just to avoid RPM files completely.
Yum and urpmi, amongst others, do not compare in any way to APT. They try to solve the same problem, but unfortunately they fail quite miserably. That said, the only other packaging systems comparable to APT is the FreeBSD packages/ports system, as well as pkgsrc.
Don't confuse stupidity with vote rigging.
Why don't you explain to her that she may not have to use Outlook, even if they say that she does? Don't get technical. Maybe even set up Seamonkey or Thunderbird for her, just to show her that it can be done and how much better off it will make her.
Did you actually try to install it, let alone use it? Just downloading the ISO images doesn't count as using it, you know.
Get her to use Ubuntu, rather than Mandrake. They'll most likely ship her CDs free of charge.
I've even seen my grandson install it, and he's 9. Yes, it really is that easy.
The problems you mention are often caused by using a distro that's based around RPM files. While revolutionary a decade or so ago, they're quite terrible today. Like you mentioned, the dependencies are a real killer. That's why it's best to use a distribution like Debian or Ubuntu, or even FreeBSD, to get around those problems. Systems like that have real packaging systems that take care of dependencies. Avoid Fedora, perhaps even Slackware, and instead stick with Debian.
You should have pulled down her pants and rubbed Tux on her clitoris. Tease her vaginal hole with his round head. Just put it in slightly, to get her really excited. Then slip his beak in her wet pink, and have it gently rub her g-spot until she orgasms in a shower of woman juice. If she still doesn't want to use Linux after that, then she's a lost cause.
Let it cultivate. That approach will only go so far. Once applications become moderately complex, that whole methodology of programming collapses. Frankly, I wouldn't mind if it took with it the people who fell for it. They probably shouldn't be working as programmers anyways.
Those are the types of issues you should expect when using distributions like Gentoo and Slackware. If you want stuff to just work right away, consider using Debian or a Debian-derived distro, or perhaps even SuSE. But stay away from Fedora. It's been nothing but problems for me, and the alternatives are far superior.
Well, your answer could potentially be Yes, No, Perhaps, Maybe, Only on Tuesdays, Sure, Yup, Nope, I don't know, or any number of other replies to such a question.
Well, now you know.
And no, his potentially incorrect analysis does not make this phenomenon itself "bullshit" (to use such an uncouth word). Much like the incorrect analysis of alchemists didn't "invalidate" the various phenomena of chemistry. After all, perhaps in the future we'll find that he was correct, and you were not. It's something that has happened many times before in the history of science. He who is wrong violently attacks those who suggest alternative theories, and yet the alternative theories turn out to be completely correct.