There are a hell of a lot of differences. However, they do share some traits.
Both democrats and republicans lie, steal, coerce, extort, and slander to further their ideals. They both think they're right all the time and rarely listen to each other. They both care deeply about the welfare of those close to them.
It's the story of human existence. Who would you rather see in power; someone who agrees with your politics and follows your religion but is an idiot, or someone who promotes things you find abhorrent and doesn't share your religious convictions but is relatively smart?
It's just a shame when both sides use the general public's fears and convictions for monetary/political gain or whatever. Which is what i think you were talking about.
They'd find a way to get a cheap knockoff manufactured in china and sold in outdoor markets across the country. Only problem is, it would be made out of plastic.
Yeah, but who funded the research? I'm going to assume it must have been the US government and/or various large corporations, all of whom have a vested interest in polluting your brain with mind-control electromagnetic EMF wave thingys for their own profit... or world domination... something like that... whatever.
The other week i upgraded my OS from Ubuntu 5.04 to Ubuntu 5.10. I thought i had backed all of the music i'd downloaded since installing ubuntu back in august '05, but it turns out i hadn't. So I lost about 7 gigs worth of music. When i considered that it was mostly music i hadn't really had the chance to listen to properly yet, i was completely devastated. But that only lasted for about a day, then i shrugged and moved on, scouring the blogosphere for tasty new mp3s to download.
Yeah, anything that doesn't make sense must be sinister. I'm with you on the Bilderburgers. Web 2.0 is all part of their diabolical plan for world domination.
you'd care if you were a webmaster for a large database-driven site.
"what will be kinder to my servers? Sending this user the entire page again, or just sending that little bit at the bottom that needs to be updated? hmmmm...."
ajax stands to save people quite a bit of money in bandwidth fees and processor time.
was anybody even anticipating that gizmondo thing?
I remember seeing it being paraded around by some scantily clad ladies at some gaming convention in london. It didn't catch my interest much, but i can safely say that it's some sort of handheld console thing that nobody would have bought even if it did make it to market.
So this news is like a bit like "infinium labs files for bankrupcy". Only, even less people will care.
"Obviously it wasn't solely because of those two strawman reasons, so it must be because of oil."
I know you were being sarcastic, but you are almost correct. The real reason they invaded iraq was money. Oil is just the means of making money. Essentially, the war with iraq was nothing more than a business venture to Bush/Cheney.
So, using logic, we can derive that lowering the price of oil was never on the agenda. I think all bush/cheney care about is money. So when they get more oil, why would they want to keep the profit margins the same by making it cheaper? "Everyone is already paying $x.xx, they'll probably continue to pay that much, even though we've now got a larger supply. This way we make more money."
Both bush and cheney have been businessmen. They have a vested interest in making money. Fuck knows they don't have an interest in making the world a better place, which is the sign of a good leader.
"You observed Bush saying that he invaded Iraq to get cheap oil?"
No. i observed events which, when considered logically, point to the fact that he invaded iraq to make money (indirectly) from selling oil. And it wasn't tough to come to this conclusion. Mainly because of the lack of any other viable reason to invade iraq. When the only possible righteous reason can be ruled out because it applied to many other countries with greater urgency, you know something is up.
"I think you're confusing observation with speculation."
You're right. But I'm gonna call it 'educated speculation'. Which, as i mentioned before, is a darn sight better than plain old observation in the world we occupy today. You've got to think for youself, or you could end up falling victim to those who would have you believe exactly what they believe, or worse, what they want you to believe. And this goes far beyond Oil. It applies to religion, current events, and everything that you don't control. Even me. Keep questioning me. Knowledge is power. I know some of it will sink in, and some of it will seem preposterous. This is the way we acquire knowledge. but the more you question the preposterous stuff, the more you realise that it's the truth.(unless it's not the truth, in which case it works in the opposite direction).
Also, please don't assume that i want you to believe what i'm saying. I simply want you to consider it. Belief is a dangerous thing. Even i don't fully believe what i'm saying, but it seems like the most likely situation at present.
If you're suggesting that bush declared war on Iraq as revenge for his father... No, i simply refuse to believe that anyone in this world is that goddamn selfish.
It obviously wasn't to quell human rights violations, or we'd have invaded a whole bunch of other countries before we got to Iraq.
"Just where are you getting these ludicrous ideas?"
It's called observation. It may be that what i've observed is incorrect, but when all i have to go on is lies and conjecture, that's all that can be expected. I assume nothing, i look at evidence objectively, and i draw conclusions. At least i don't watch fox news and just swallow their "truth" without tasting it first.
"Did you consider that perhaps it would be a bad idea for the government to spread anxiety and dissatisfaction for a problem that no amount of public outcry is going to expedite?"
Outcry isn't what's needed. Action, on the other hand, is.
"There are numerous public and private movements to get people to stop wasting energy, and they're working. "
Well, they're not working fast enough, as is shown by TFA.
"If people choose not to follow suit, then there's no reason that they should be coerced into it."
You're right. There's no need for coercion, and i never said there was. However, some realistic advice wouldn't go amiss.
"It's more important that we buy enough time to develop technologies that make energy more common. These technologies are well on their way to implementation, but they still need more time"
All the more reason to conserve energy now! Who knows how long it will take to get alternative energy sources up to a level where they can replace oil? Just assuming it will get done in time is exactly the kind of passive behaviour i've been talking about.
Oil is priced by how much there is, and how much it costs to retrieve. The war was( and still is) pretty fucking expensive. The price of oil went up, but the security of having a larger supply was worth it, supposedly.
and i hate michael moore. He's just another member of the media. Oh right, i suppose because i'm giving a dissenting viewpoint, that automatically makes me a socialist scumbag who blindly supports left-wing propogandists because they further my ideals. Grow up.
the problem i was talking about was the problem of people carelessly wasting energy, not oil fields drying up. I was saying that Oil companies and perhaps even governments play a big role in putting people in that "everythings gonna be fine" state of mind, when simply telling them "everything isn't going to be fine, we're running out of energy fast" will help slow down the rate at which we run out of energy. Only problem is that oil comapnies will lose profit if that happens.
Maybe not just oil companies, but they certainly contribute a lot. What i'm talking about is the western public's passive nature toward the coming energy crisis. Oil is running out fast, and everyone knows it. Natural gas is disappearing even faster. But for some reason, people have this "everything's gonna be fine" attitude to the whole situation. Oil companies inflate their expected barrels/year figures to keep stocks high, the government doesn't bother telling people to conserve energy on a large scale... Bad things are going to happen if the west doesn't wake up to this problem.
"there ALWAYS will be rogue countries that will allow copyright infringement."
don't be so sure about that. Americans managed to get cannabis(an almost harmless drug, in comparison to modern perscription medicines, alcohol, and tobacco) completely outlawed in pretty much every single country in the world. I think, given enough time and money, they could do the same with intellectual propety law violation.
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There are a hell of a lot of differences. However, they do share some traits.
Both democrats and republicans lie, steal, coerce, extort, and slander to further their ideals. They both think they're right all the time and rarely listen to each other. They both care deeply about the welfare of those close to them.
It's the story of human existence. Who would you rather see in power; someone who agrees with your politics and follows your religion but is an idiot, or someone who promotes things you find abhorrent and doesn't share your religious convictions but is relatively smart?
It's just a shame when both sides use the general public's fears and convictions for monetary/political gain or whatever. Which is what i think you were talking about.
someone modded this insightful?
If you don't understand a post, you really shouldn't be moderating it. (i found it pretty funny, btw)
They'd find a way to get a cheap knockoff manufactured in china and sold in outdoor markets across the country. Only problem is, it would be made out of plastic.
Yeah, but who funded the research? I'm going to assume it must have been the US government and/or various large corporations, all of whom have a vested interest in polluting your brain with mind-control electromagnetic EMF wave thingys for their own profit... or world domination... something like that... whatever.
The point is, trust no one!
ah right, i misunderstood. My apologies. Your post was actually quite funny.
Right... Killer logic there. I suppose you'd consider it a stretch to say religious leaders are rewriting the politics?
speak softly and carry a big stick
- theodore roosevelt
perhaps, but definitely not the first post by organisms with the same intelligence level as bacteria.
or slightly more likely: they'd be making even less money than they currently are and linux use would have increased by a very, very small fraction.
The other week i upgraded my OS from Ubuntu 5.04 to Ubuntu 5.10. I thought i had backed all of the music i'd downloaded since installing ubuntu back in august '05, but it turns out i hadn't. So I lost about 7 gigs worth of music. When i considered that it was mostly music i hadn't really had the chance to listen to properly yet, i was completely devastated. But that only lasted for about a day, then i shrugged and moved on, scouring the blogosphere for tasty new mp3s to download.
Yeah, anything that doesn't make sense must be sinister. I'm with you on the Bilderburgers. Web 2.0 is all part of their diabolical plan for world domination.
On a side note, nice signature.
you'd care if you were a webmaster for a large database-driven site.
"what will be kinder to my servers? Sending this user the entire page again, or just sending that little bit at the bottom that needs to be updated? hmmmm...."
ajax stands to save people quite a bit of money in bandwidth fees and processor time.
my understanding is that Tor encrypts all http traffic from you to the tor nodes, so yes, it should render any http logs useless.
However, there are other protocols out there. I don't want my ISP keeping logs of all the porn i download from Usenet, for instance.
I'd probably still be playing my xbox regularly.
slashdot.... less biased? Surely you jest...?
I think Indymedia is about as close as you can get to unbiased, but i still find it to be skewed a little to the left.
was anybody even anticipating that gizmondo thing? I remember seeing it being paraded around by some scantily clad ladies at some gaming convention in london. It didn't catch my interest much, but i can safely say that it's some sort of handheld console thing that nobody would have bought even if it did make it to market. So this news is like a bit like "infinium labs files for bankrupcy". Only, even less people will care.
"Obviously it wasn't solely because of those two strawman reasons, so it must be because of oil."
I know you were being sarcastic, but you are almost correct. The real reason they invaded iraq was money. Oil is just the means of making money. Essentially, the war with iraq was nothing more than a business venture to Bush/Cheney. So, using logic, we can derive that lowering the price of oil was never on the agenda. I think all bush/cheney care about is money. So when they get more oil, why would they want to keep the profit margins the same by making it cheaper? "Everyone is already paying $x.xx, they'll probably continue to pay that much, even though we've now got a larger supply. This way we make more money."
Both bush and cheney have been businessmen. They have a vested interest in making money. Fuck knows they don't have an interest in making the world a better place, which is the sign of a good leader.
"You observed Bush saying that he invaded Iraq to get cheap oil?"
No. i observed events which, when considered logically, point to the fact that he invaded iraq to make money (indirectly) from selling oil. And it wasn't tough to come to this conclusion. Mainly because of the lack of any other viable reason to invade iraq. When the only possible righteous reason can be ruled out because it applied to many other countries with greater urgency, you know something is up.
"I think you're confusing observation with speculation."
You're right. But I'm gonna call it 'educated speculation'. Which, as i mentioned before, is a darn sight better than plain old observation in the world we occupy today. You've got to think for youself, or you could end up falling victim to those who would have you believe exactly what they believe, or worse, what they want you to believe. And this goes far beyond Oil. It applies to religion, current events, and everything that you don't control. Even me. Keep questioning me. Knowledge is power. I know some of it will sink in, and some of it will seem preposterous. This is the way we acquire knowledge. but the more you question the preposterous stuff, the more you realise that it's the truth.(unless it's not the truth, in which case it works in the opposite direction).
Also, please don't assume that i want you to believe what i'm saying. I simply want you to consider it. Belief is a dangerous thing. Even i don't fully believe what i'm saying, but it seems like the most likely situation at present.
sorry for going off topic.
If you're suggesting that bush declared war on Iraq as revenge for his father... No, i simply refuse to believe that anyone in this world is that goddamn selfish. It obviously wasn't to quell human rights violations, or we'd have invaded a whole bunch of other countries before we got to Iraq. "Just where are you getting these ludicrous ideas?" It's called observation. It may be that what i've observed is incorrect, but when all i have to go on is lies and conjecture, that's all that can be expected. I assume nothing, i look at evidence objectively, and i draw conclusions. At least i don't watch fox news and just swallow their "truth" without tasting it first.
"Did you consider that perhaps it would be a bad idea for the government to spread anxiety and dissatisfaction for a problem that no amount of public outcry is going to expedite?"
Outcry isn't what's needed. Action, on the other hand, is.
"There are numerous public and private movements to get people to stop wasting energy, and they're working. "
Well, they're not working fast enough, as is shown by TFA.
"If people choose not to follow suit, then there's no reason that they should be coerced into it."
You're right. There's no need for coercion, and i never said there was. However, some realistic advice wouldn't go amiss.
"It's more important that we buy enough time to develop technologies that make energy more common. These technologies are well on their way to implementation, but they still need more time"
All the more reason to conserve energy now! Who knows how long it will take to get alternative energy sources up to a level where they can replace oil? Just assuming it will get done in time is exactly the kind of passive behaviour i've been talking about.
Oil is priced by how much there is, and how much it costs to retrieve. The war was( and still is) pretty fucking expensive. The price of oil went up, but the security of having a larger supply was worth it, supposedly.
and i hate michael moore. He's just another member of the media. Oh right, i suppose because i'm giving a dissenting viewpoint, that automatically makes me a socialist scumbag who blindly supports left-wing propogandists because they further my ideals. Grow up.
Are you kidding? If oil is so unimportant, why did bush/cheney wage war against iraq. oh right... they had WMDs...
the problem i was talking about was the problem of people carelessly wasting energy, not oil fields drying up. I was saying that Oil companies and perhaps even governments play a big role in putting people in that "everythings gonna be fine" state of mind, when simply telling them "everything isn't going to be fine, we're running out of energy fast" will help slow down the rate at which we run out of energy. Only problem is that oil comapnies will lose profit if that happens.
Maybe not just oil companies, but they certainly contribute a lot. What i'm talking about is the western public's passive nature toward the coming energy crisis. Oil is running out fast, and everyone knows it. Natural gas is disappearing even faster. But for some reason, people have this "everything's gonna be fine" attitude to the whole situation. Oil companies inflate their expected barrels/year figures to keep stocks high, the government doesn't bother telling people to conserve energy on a large scale... Bad things are going to happen if the west doesn't wake up to this problem.
"there ALWAYS will be rogue countries that will allow copyright infringement."
don't be so sure about that. Americans managed to get cannabis(an almost harmless drug, in comparison to modern perscription medicines, alcohol, and tobacco) completely outlawed in pretty much every single country in the world. I think, given enough time and money, they could do the same with intellectual propety law violation.
Of course not! There are certain things in the world that are always going to be around. Water, oil, natural gas, and human stupidity.
Hmm... maybe it's just that last one. *buries head in the sand*