Isn't this bundling? Is this one of the very things for which M$ is defending itself? Isn't this the same sort of practice that got folks free machines when M$ and others were forced to cancel obligatory online services? How is NetPliance getting away with the same practice that others have not?
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Man, with all our concerns about privacy being eroded daily, I'm not so sure I want my john chatting up myh MD's office with instant messages that are sure to be slanged as "craptions"... Now, my fridge could always tell me when my favorite liquor store has Mackeson in stock. THAT would be useful!
I just wanted to drop a note of thanks for the blockfile you whipped up. I've been meaning to play with Junkbuster for some time now, and you just removed my last excuse not to do so.
Even the old bindery days of Novell are better than this AD shit. I'll give you an example.
Take a statewide network, make a change to a user account's ACL in NDS and the repicas make the information known to the network. In ADS, it's a fucking file copy. So, take that statewide network, make a 4bit file grow to 11 megs by the end of it's travels as it updates all the servers because M$ doesn't like partioning replicas based on geographic location.
That is a mighty fine piece of coding there, huh?
Retro feel? Are you, or are you not using NWAdmin32? If you're still on 3.12 or 3.2, then you're still not stuck with the old syscon interface, you moron. Go and download WinSyscon and quit your M$ GUI-dependant bitching!
As far as removing the client, try using the appropriate UNC32.exe to uninstall the client. If you knew what you were doing, or bothered to look things up, then you'd not have fucked up your laptop.
Yeah, the ad thing is horrible. I mean, I'm obviously a Novell gan, but it's hard to support an underdog that doesn't even tout itself in the same media as its competitors... Oh, I'm not shocked about BM not being listed. Again, who, other than admins, knows about it? About their site, well, recently they switched providers. I think their backbone is now...hang onto your CNE...GoodNet! You can't get good performance from a a shitty backbone. -Jake
Actually, Oracle 8 ships with Netare 5. It handles databases quite well. It's application serving that has traditionally been its weak point, and where they have welcomed NT. They've also recently partnered with IBM for new Java-based app serving to attempt to correct that oversight of theirs.
BorderManager is an excellent webserver, and kicks IIS's ass (as if that's difficult to do, really). I'm curious why you believe it to be so bad.
As far as the GUI interface, well, that's because end-user mgt make decisions, and it looks just like their every day desktops...so why not go with that thingy!?
But, you're right about marketing. Novell is destined for extinction if all they continue to do is rest upon their laurels as they have done. When was the last time you saw a Novell magazine ad, ad banner or television commercial? Who was the last Novell executive to be interviewed on the Today show?
Outside of LAN admins, nobody knows Novell. Hell, even Linux and FreeBSD are more recognizable than the Novell! They are so lacking in self-promotion it's pathetic.
Anyone remember the Linux benchmark fiasco? M$ has a tried and true history of stating blatant falsehoods in their many FUD campaigns. Why are we labelling Novell's responding to such false allegations (as in the NDS cannot support more than 1000 objects, when it will hold a billion) as FUD instead of as defending themselves just as *nix/Linux users have been doing for so long? So far, I have yet to find anything untrue on any of Novell's alleged "FUD" pages. Shouldn't Novell be viewed as a sort of "brother in arms" when their trials and tribulations with the M$ media machine are compared to Linux's own? -Jake
Gartner Group has recommended to several state governments to unite all their agencies under NDS and to avoid Win2K until 2001 or 2002. I'd like to be able to point you to the reports, but you must subscribe and pay thousands to be able to read them...
I hang out on a message board about urban legends, we debunk them and generally ridicule all people who get suckered by them. You know, people like/. that post stupid things like the post office taxing email...
Believing in a global conspiracy to cover up Y2K problems is monumentally stupid.
Anyway, I work in state government. If the levels of organization at this level is any indication of governmental organizational skills, I seriously doubt the existence of a global Y2K cover-up conspiracy.
Further, it is patently stupid to believe that the media would willingly pass up what they would undoubtedly trump up as "the story of the millennium!" Therefore, the cover-up would have to be with all governments working together to keep things quiet...that just ain't gonna happen. Hell, Yeltsin just resigned. They don't stay in one place long enough to construct a global cover-up!
So, I'd just like to remind you that there are other television programs besides the X-Files.
However, as the article notes as well, the main competition for them, Office 2000 will not be out until roughly the same time. Nope, wrong. Office 2000 is out already. The article only comments on M$'s plans for Internet distribution. Right now, you still have to truck your ass down to a store, or find another retailer online (who will probably sell it cheaper than M$ direct will).
Then I'm unsure of the business angle, other than HEAT being used by Sega.
I'm still unconvinced that there are enough homes in the country with LANs, or enough LANs that permit users to connect gamedecks to the workplace network to persuade Sega of the marketability of such an option.
If you learn to use correct words to convey your ideas, you'll go quite far yourself.
I'm not looking at performance issues in terms of the network, you're quite correct in your assessment of infrastructure stability. I'm considering how my end-user, paycheck signing supervisors and managerial staff will react to my decision to permit Sega machines to be jacked into their network.
If I am obviously an admin, then you are obviously a gamer. Different priorities. I run my LAN to enable workflow. You want to play whenever, and wherever possible.
You're also conveniently forgetting the simple fact that Sega will have a difficult time making money off of you if you may simply plug their machines into your LAN. What they want is a pay-per-play setup, and LAN capablities just won't permit that. It's business.
Just think about where most LANs exist, in the workplace. How many workplaces do you think would allow Sega machines to be plugged into the LAN at the office? I'm a LAN admin myself, and I'd rather shoot any one of my users in the head rather than allow them to play games on my LAN.
I can't even fathom why you'd think they dropped the ball. How specialized do you want them to market something designed for mass consumption? This is a comsumer product, not an Uber-geek accessory. They want gamers online, and they'll more than likely want them to do it via their connection service. That will allow them to make more money. How will allowing a marginal segment of their consumer population (personal LANs, or lax work environments) to circumvent their connection method (either their own dial-up or some sort of service you access to meet up with other gamers...pay per play) help them make more money?
-eBay charges sellers fees for listings and more for completed sales. -Meta searches expose those auctions to a wider audience, thereby increasing eBay revenue derived from completed sales. -eBay derives revenue from banner ads.
If eBay is not interested in exposing its sellers' auctions to the widest possible audience, which source of revenue do you think is more important to them? Which source of revenue do you think will (and currently is) get greater support from eBay?
How will removing load on eBay's servers from remote search engines and placing that very same activity back on the eBay servers (NT boxes that are always crashing and require a weekly four hour reboot) alieviate server load on eBay's notoriously unreliable servers?
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Isn't this bundling? Is this one of the very things for which M$ is defending itself? Isn't this the same sort of practice that got folks free machines when M$ and others were forced to cancel obligatory online services? How is NetPliance getting away with the same practice that others have not?
Man, with all our concerns about privacy being eroded daily, I'm not so sure I want my john chatting up myh MD's office with instant messages that are sure to be slanged as "craptions"...
Now, my fridge could always tell me when my favorite liquor store has Mackeson in stock. THAT would be useful!
-Jake
I just wanted to drop a note of thanks for the blockfile you whipped up. I've been meaning to play with Junkbuster for some time now, and you just removed my last excuse not to do so.
They claimed that NDS can't contain more than one thousand objects per container, when it will contain more than one billion for starters.
These really aren't that difficult to find if you actually read the documents rather than post URLs...
Even the old bindery days of Novell are better than this AD shit. I'll give you an example.
Take a statewide network, make a change to a user account's ACL in NDS and the repicas make the information known to the network. In ADS, it's a fucking file copy. So, take that statewide network, make a 4bit file grow to 11 megs by the end of it's travels as it updates all the servers because M$ doesn't like partioning replicas based on geographic location.
That is a mighty fine piece of coding there, huh?
Retro feel? Are you, or are you not using NWAdmin32? If you're still on 3.12 or 3.2, then you're still not stuck with the old syscon interface, you moron. Go and download WinSyscon and quit your M$ GUI-dependant bitching!
As far as removing the client, try using the appropriate UNC32.exe to uninstall the client. If you knew what you were doing, or bothered to look things up, then you'd not have fucked up your laptop.
You're A+ certified, aren't you?
Yeah, the ad thing is horrible. I mean, I'm obviously a Novell gan, but it's hard to support an underdog that doesn't even tout itself in the same media as its competitors... Oh, I'm not shocked about BM not being listed. Again, who, other than admins, knows about it? About their site, well, recently they switched providers. I think their backbone is now...hang onto your CNE...GoodNet! You can't get good performance from a a shitty backbone. -Jake
Actually, Oracle 8 ships with Netare 5. It handles databases quite well. It's application serving that has traditionally been its weak point, and where they have welcomed NT. They've also recently partnered with IBM for new Java-based app serving to attempt to correct that oversight of theirs.
BorderManager is an excellent webserver, and kicks IIS's ass (as if that's difficult to do, really). I'm curious why you believe it to be so bad.
As far as the GUI interface, well, that's because end-user mgt make decisions, and it looks just like their every day desktops...so why not go with that thingy!?
But, you're right about marketing. Novell is destined for extinction if all they continue to do is rest upon their laurels as they have done. When was the last time you saw a Novell magazine ad, ad banner or television commercial? Who was the last Novell executive to be interviewed on the Today show?
Outside of LAN admins, nobody knows Novell. Hell, even Linux and FreeBSD are more recognizable than the Novell! They are so lacking in self-promotion it's pathetic.
Anyone remember the Linux benchmark fiasco?
M$ has a tried and true history of stating blatant falsehoods in their many FUD campaigns. Why are we labelling Novell's responding to such false allegations (as in the NDS cannot support more than 1000 objects, when it will hold a billion) as FUD instead of as defending themselves just as *nix/Linux users have been doing for so long?
So far, I have yet to find anything untrue on any of Novell's alleged "FUD" pages.
Shouldn't Novell be viewed as a sort of "brother in arms" when their trials and tribulations with the M$ media machine are compared to Linux's own?
-Jake
Gartner Group has recommended to several state governments to unite all their agencies under NDS and to avoid Win2K until 2001 or 2002. I'd like to be able to point you to the reports, but you must subscribe and pay thousands to be able to read them...
Landfill.com with a mixture of rotting baby diapers, old beer and hobo urine with just a hint of decaying animal carcasses.
I hang out on a message board about urban legends, we debunk them and generally ridicule all people who get suckered by them. You know, people like /. that post stupid things like the post office taxing email...
Believing in a global conspiracy to cover up Y2K problems is monumentally stupid.
Anyway, I work in state government. If the levels of organization at this level is any indication of governmental organizational skills, I seriously doubt the existence of a global Y2K cover-up conspiracy.
Further, it is patently stupid to believe that the media would willingly pass up what they would undoubtedly trump up as "the story of the millennium!" Therefore, the cover-up would have to be with all governments working together to keep things quiet...that just ain't gonna happen. Hell, Yeltsin just resigned. They don't stay in one place long enough to construct a global cover-up!
So, I'd just like to remind you that there are other television programs besides the X-Files.
However, as the article notes as well, the main competition for them, Office 2000 will not be out until roughly the same time.
Nope, wrong. Office 2000 is out already. The article only comments on M$'s plans for Internet distribution. Right now, you still have to truck your ass down to a store, or find another retailer online (who will probably sell it cheaper than M$ direct will).
-Jake
Then I'm unsure of the business angle, other than HEAT being used by Sega.
I'm still unconvinced that there are enough homes in the country with LANs, or enough LANs that permit users to connect gamedecks to the workplace network to persuade Sega of the marketability of such an option.
-Jake
And that was supposed to sound charming?
-Jake
Poor quoting skills, coward-boy.
I said "look where most LANs exist.
Get it right next time.
-Jake
"you'll go farther in your courier and in life"
If you learn to use correct words to convey your ideas, you'll go quite far yourself.
I'm not looking at performance issues in terms of the network, you're quite correct in your assessment of infrastructure stability. I'm considering how my end-user, paycheck signing supervisors and managerial staff will react to my decision to permit Sega machines to be jacked into their network.
If I am obviously an admin, then you are obviously a gamer. Different priorities. I run my LAN to enable workflow. You want to play whenever, and wherever possible.
You're also conveniently forgetting the simple fact that Sega will have a difficult time making money off of you if you may simply plug their machines into your LAN. What they want is a pay-per-play setup, and LAN capablities just won't permit that. It's business.
-Jake
...it's just an unrealistic expectation.
Just think about where most LANs exist, in the workplace. How many workplaces do you think would allow Sega machines to be plugged into the LAN at the office? I'm a LAN admin myself, and I'd rather shoot any one of my users in the head rather than allow them to play games on my LAN.
I can't even fathom why you'd think they dropped the ball. How specialized do you want them to market something designed for mass consumption? This is a comsumer product, not an Uber-geek accessory. They want gamers online, and they'll more than likely want them to do it via their connection service. That will allow them to make more money. How will allowing a marginal segment of their consumer population (personal LANs, or lax work environments) to circumvent their connection method (either their own dial-up or some sort of service you access to meet up with other gamers...pay per play) help them make more money?
Jake
I'll wager that they applied all five NT security...oops, I mean service packs.
-eBay charges sellers fees for listings and more for completed sales.
-Meta searches expose those auctions to a wider audience, thereby increasing eBay revenue derived from completed sales.
-eBay derives revenue from banner ads.
If eBay is not interested in exposing its sellers' auctions to the widest possible audience, which source of revenue do you think is more important to them? Which source of revenue do you think will (and currently is) get greater support from eBay?
How will removing load on eBay's servers from remote search engines and placing that very same activity back on the eBay servers (NT boxes that are always crashing and require a weekly four hour reboot) alieviate server load on eBay's notoriously unreliable servers?
-Jake
Bianca's Smut Schack is still around, and still under the same name as always.
Looks to me like she and her trolls beat the Radio Shack twits soundly.
Jake