Articles about things other people would not not do is not news, so following your logic the new Slashot tagline should be "Fiction for nerds. Stuff that we made up but could definitely happen". I have no problem with Slashdot pivoting but someone should come out and say it.
There is no actual information in that article. Some dude says: a lot of business people go to China and come back with spyware, but nobody finds the spyware or when they find it they don't report it... So how the fuck does that guy know it actually happens?
That's the paid expert version of Baghdad Bob or Tokyo Rose, only instead of doing propaganda for a country it's just for ads and traffic. Lame.
Interesting, but the point of the OP is that he used torrents so he would not have to deal with metadata. Unless one can plug that thing directly in the pipe it does not solve the problem!
Like many people I use this tool, pretty convenient and it is linked to a few online catalogs/guessers: http://www.mp3tag.de/en/
Seriously I could now see the whole Slashdot thing moved to a single Facebook page. The editors would post their stories and people would make comments and Like or Unlike other comments. What is the point of running a big infrastructure and maintain a large codebase if all that shows on the front page is half-baked.
Actually I have downloaded torrents of CDs I own. It tends to be faster than ripping and someone else has already gone to the trouble of doing all the metadata, downloading album art and most importantly checked the quality of the rip.
You must not be picky with metadata tags accuracy. I gave up on torrents when I stumbled upon songs like Brown Eyes Girl by Jim Van Morrison or Red Red Wine by Neil Young.
Retina or no retina does not change the fact that high-frequency refresh is tiresome for the eyes and make long reading sessions unpleasant - it does not matter if you read slightly slower or faster if you give up after 15 minutes. There is no refresh with e-ink (except when flipping the page) hence it is as pleasant to read as actual paper. So I guess my hope is that they will come up with higher quality e-ink.
Meanwhile being able to change the font size, paper color, text density, etc. on the Kindle turns out to be pretty convenient. I've been using the device for a while and I found out that I sometimes enjoy having more or less text on the page (usually more text for fiction and less for non-fiction). But yeah, diagrams and images are an eyesore and I usually just ignore them.
Much as I love my Kindle, it's not quite there for PDFs. While great for text (e.g. novels), it can't reflow a PDF well (or at all?), and the screen size makes it too small to reasonably view most PDFs at full size. A Kindle DX might be better, but still not ideal. Obviously color will be a no-go.
I would recommend an iPad or something similar for technical documents and most other PDFs. Goodreader + Dropbox is a great combination.
I agree for the PDFs and even eBooks that have diagrams or pictures, Kindle is not convenient. However a few months ago I lost my Kindle and decided to read stuff on my tablet, and what happened is that I basically stopped reading. Instead of sitting for a few hours and reading books I ended up picking up the tablet, firing up the eReader app but quickly switching to email, web browsing and games. I stayed less longer in coffee shops, doodling around on the tablets and getting restless quickly.
Then I bought a new Kindle and immediately I went back to reading a lot (usually two books a week). My tablet is now a living room fixture for when I watch a movie; when I go to a coffee shop I bring my Kindle and use my phone if I want to check my emails, which happens a lot less often when I read.
With my first Kindle I used to turn the wifi off to save battery but with the new one I find that I actually like the always-connected approach. I like to take notes and it's convenient that they follow my Amazon account, it makes it easier for me to go and buy a few books to dig a little more in a topic I found interesting. The Kindle is as convenient for buying books than the iPod Touch for buying music.
Tablets are great to read articles, emails and view diagrams. For books there is nothing like the Kindle (it's even better than actual books!).
The rest of it rings true, but this is just too far fetched. Ethernet cables are like wire coat hangers - they breed. I try to keep them confined to my study/shed, but they have to be purged regularly to stop them taking over the house.
That's why wireless cables are so convenient, they take less space. Also even if the 802.11n jacks are more expensive than RJ45s at least they are not just the right size to allow someone to plug in a USB cable by mistake.
But he'll be one of a few sites on the server, not one of hundreds. And the sites on this server are mostly maintained by professional developers, not some guy installing an outdated Joomla or vulnerable PHP in 24 Hours code. Admittedly, my goal is to get more of the little guys on the server and thus there will be more vulnerable code on the server, but it is nowhere near the mess that is running on Bluehost servers (yet).
So what you describe is a situation where the value of your service will go down as your sales go up... At least you deserve some credit for being honest!
1. Which of the following is a form of censorship? A) Microsoft offering computers and software to public schools as a way to support computer literacy while promoting their own products. B) Apple deciding to put asterisks instead of the proper title for a Naomi Wolf book in its iBookstore. C) Linus Torvalds forcing a lousy SCM system (twice) on everyone that wants to contribute to the Linux kernel project. D) Facebook asking people to pay to have their posts floating slightly closer to the surface in the waves of uninteresting content submerging their servers.
To be honest the right answer to both quizzes is to mod my comment down as flamebait so for once the crowd appears to be right!
Still, the original point would be that mass murder *is* a form of censorship.
Reminds me of a tech certification exam, where sometimes the right answer is the overkill one.
1. Which of the following is a form of censorship*: A) Noam Chomsky complaining to Larry King during his primetime show that a conservative conspiracy prevents him from having access to mainstream medias. B) The Muslims of the Handschar units using mass murder as a way to eradicate the communist resistance against nazis in former Yugoslavia in the 40s. C) Spencer Tracy winning an Oscar for his role in Inherit the Wind, a movie that makes fun of 44% of the American population (those who totally reject the Theory of Evolution, as opposed to the 39% accepting the Theory as long as it includes a mention of God being somehow involved and the 10% rejecting God's role altogether). D) The Hamas launching 2,256 rockets at Israel in 2012, to an average cost of $800 per rocket, while complaining in complacent liberal medias that the Palestinian people is starving.
*While each and every one of these situations is biased towards a specific position, only one qualifies as censorship.
It's not always cost-effective to host your own platform - you need hardware, power and cooling, a reliable internet connection with good upload speed, maintenance, backup, etc. and you get to live with a pager, There are plenty of cheap Linux hosts out there where all the possible software is available. As an example there is Bluehost where the $5/month hosting plan comes with a SimpleScripts subscription which allows you to deploy just about any application in a jiffy (including all the CMS, blogging and social media stuff you can think of, including Drupal).
Don't go with Bluehost, I myself tested them a few months ago and I just moved a client off them last month. I don't think I've ever seen a system load below 20 on their machines (at least they do provide SSH access) and I've seen it get scarily close to 100. The performance is exactly what you would expect on such a loaded server.
I'm now doing reseller hosting for some clients. I can get you a very decent hosting setup, and customize it to your needs, and install a CMS for you, for $10 monthly. It would be comparable to what you'd pay about double that anywhere else, and honestly, resource-wise it will seem like you've got just about the whole server to yourself. Email me, my Gmail username is the same as my Slashdot username.
Here is my current system load, unedited right off the server: $ uptime
Ok so basically the guy would have to pick : 1) an established provider that is hosting millions of domains (says them) in their 50,000 square ft data center in Utah for $5 2) some dude who is doing fly-by-night reselling for an unknown host and is advertising his 9-day uptime server for free on Slashdot and of course offers better performance (says him) for $10
I don't have a dog in this fight but if I had I'd go with the Mormons and use the $5 I saved to keep a mirror site on another cheap provider.
Most cities, even the small ones, will have some form of technology infrastructure in place. If you need to get a new server in, then they should have the budget to maintain it. Any companies that start to provide services to a city will need to get picked through an RFP process, which generally cuts out the budget web hosting services.
This is not correct. In any level of government there is a threshold under which there is no need for a costly RFP process, and since the OP is basically saying they don't have money, there is no point in going that route. Anyways no decent provider will waste time responding to a personnalized RFP for a webhosting kind of budget, it would have to be included in a bucket of IT services and that's a whole other story.
I made it clear in my comment that I would advise a full-scale cloud provider (such as Azure) but given the choice between a local frankenserver connected to internet with a cheap DSL modem and volunteer-like support or a cheap webhost it's a no-brainer.
It's not always cost-effective to host your own platform - you need hardware, power and cooling, a reliable internet connection with good upload speed, maintenance, backup, etc. and you get to live with a pager, There are plenty of cheap Linux hosts out there where all the possible software is available. As an example there is Bluehost where the $5/month hosting plan comes with a SimpleScripts subscription which allows you to deploy just about any application in a jiffy (including all the CMS, blogging and social media stuff you can think of, including Drupal). Of course for that price you can't expect stellar performance, there will be hundreds of other websites on the same machine.
If you want something more robust and you are open to other things than FOSS than have a look at Microsoft Azure. It's more expensive than cheap Linux hosting but for $25-$50/month you can have a very robust cloud setup (load balancing, backup, etc) and no additional license cost. And the nice thing on Azure is that you can deploy an configure a new CMS (like Joomla or DotNetNuke) using a click wizard, it's even more user-friendly than SimpleScripts, you get to choose the various options, not just the admin password. Also with Azure you get a 3 months free trial to see if you like it. And if you somehow can't sleep with the idea of a.Net webapp you can deploy PHP stuff - you can even host a Linux VM and run whatever you want on it but that would kinda defeat the purpose of using cloud services.
Whatever you do make sure you don't become the "owner" of a local setup. People will start to have unrealistic expectations and will be mad at you when "your" server is down because of a power or internet failure. If you really can't afford a few dollars a month go see an elected official and ask for guidance, I'm sure they can find a federal program to get you pennies.
In its last quarter, Apple made about 50 billions and achieved an increase of around 25% of its earnings. Yet the value of its stock dropped because analysts expected more. What kind of message do you think this situation sends to executive?
If the executive is math literate, it sends the message that the street's valuation lead the harvesting of value.
No, it sends the message that the market is hell-bent on speculation and that in a world where a company that pays dividends is accused of having "no imagination" the only way to please shareholders is to make the stock price go up no matter what. This leads to short-term plans and a plethoras of shallow business trends like "pivoting".
I hope you've got youth, because you're light on discernment.
Well I have enough discernment to see that you have no idea that being shrewd has nothing to do with when you buy a stock but rather on how much money you make with it - which by any possible interpretation of Wall Street history is done by investing in companies that pay dividends, not by playing zero-sum games where you make a penny only when someone else gets fucked.
I think that's as much horseshit as thinking 40 and under make an ideal company. If you ask me the biggest problem with the economy and business isn't republicans or democrats, it's that people whose best years and best ideas are behind them, but they want to squeeze the last drop of blood out and make sure every last cent is off the table (even at the expense of greater profit in 2-5 years with investment). If they can do so with 6 month initiatives and lots of processes and Jack Welchian business practices, they will (and believe me, they do). Investors are no doubt leery of older people who are too experienced.
In its last quarter, Apple made about 50 billions and achieved an increase of around 25% of its earnings. Yet the value of its stock dropped because analysts expected more. What kind of message do you think this situation sends to executive? Focus on long-term growth?
Everybody cries about programmed obsolescence and incompatible adapters and software assurance and all other quick-money-making schemes, yet they sell their f*cking stock when one of the most profitable companies in the world does not meet analysts predictions on the last quarter. It's easy to blame those evil executive or those crooked bankers but the truth is that their own job is on the line if they don't make the silly numbers a bunch of charlatans are pulling out of thin air. And just about anyone with a trading account or a 401(k) is complicit to this madness.
I left that place when I was 32 - after I sold my creations (plural) there to the highest bidders
Reminds me of a scene from the book Microserfs (Douglas Coupland):
Ethan: "I have brought four products to market myself. Four very successful products. (Unspoken sentiment hangs in the air like dying fart: "Yeah, but your companies all tanked within a year.")
They now lead the way for 1.6% of the market... Meanwhile an IDC study says that for the first time Apple and Android devices are about to beat RIM in the enterprise.
Thanks to those scientists we now know that the Higher Power that created the universes is either using a templating system or has very strict design patterns, which means that if someone finds a flaw in internet the exploit could possibly be reused to hack the human brain or even destroy the universe. Let's hope the terrorists don't find out!
The lower the pH gets, the better chlorine will work. Being closer than ever to pool-quality water in the ocean, the Antarctic people should spin this and enjoy a boom in tourism! I bet they can't wait to see more people that those bearded scientists who don't spend a dime on penguin art.
As part of the evaluation, we spoke to close to a dozen other companies that recently went through the same process, and pretty much got the same response - that the users overwhelmingly refused to have anything to do with a RIM product, and wanted the flashy new iPhone or GIII.
I'd be curious to know where people put the Windows 8 phone in that lineup.
Articles about things other people would not not do is not news, so following your logic the new Slashot tagline should be "Fiction for nerds. Stuff that we made up but could definitely happen". I have no problem with Slashdot pivoting but someone should come out and say it.
There is no actual information in that article. Some dude says: a lot of business people go to China and come back with spyware, but nobody finds the spyware or when they find it they don't report it... So how the fuck does that guy know it actually happens?
That's the paid expert version of Baghdad Bob or Tokyo Rose, only instead of doing propaganda for a country it's just for ads and traffic. Lame.
American SS? Do they have cool uniforms like the German ones?
Interesting, but the point of the OP is that he used torrents so he would not have to deal with metadata. Unless one can plug that thing directly in the pipe it does not solve the problem!
Like many people I use this tool, pretty convenient and it is linked to a few online catalogs/guessers:
http://www.mp3tag.de/en/
Seriously I could now see the whole Slashdot thing moved to a single Facebook page. The editors would post their stories and people would make comments and Like or Unlike other comments. What is the point of running a big infrastructure and maintain a large codebase if all that shows on the front page is half-baked.
Actually I have downloaded torrents of CDs I own. It tends to be faster than ripping and someone else has already gone to the trouble of doing all the metadata, downloading album art and most importantly checked the quality of the rip.
You must not be picky with metadata tags accuracy. I gave up on torrents when I stumbled upon songs like Brown Eyes Girl by Jim Van Morrison or Red Red Wine by Neil Young.
Retina or no retina does not change the fact that high-frequency refresh is tiresome for the eyes and make long reading sessions unpleasant - it does not matter if you read slightly slower or faster if you give up after 15 minutes. There is no refresh with e-ink (except when flipping the page) hence it is as pleasant to read as actual paper. So I guess my hope is that they will come up with higher quality e-ink.
Meanwhile being able to change the font size, paper color, text density, etc. on the Kindle turns out to be pretty convenient. I've been using the device for a while and I found out that I sometimes enjoy having more or less text on the page (usually more text for fiction and less for non-fiction). But yeah, diagrams and images are an eyesore and I usually just ignore them.
Much as I love my Kindle, it's not quite there for PDFs. While great for text (e.g. novels), it can't reflow a PDF well (or at all?), and the screen size makes it too small to reasonably view most PDFs at full size. A Kindle DX might be better, but still not ideal. Obviously color will be a no-go.
I would recommend an iPad or something similar for technical documents and most other PDFs. Goodreader + Dropbox is a great combination.
I agree for the PDFs and even eBooks that have diagrams or pictures, Kindle is not convenient. However a few months ago I lost my Kindle and decided to read stuff on my tablet, and what happened is that I basically stopped reading. Instead of sitting for a few hours and reading books I ended up picking up the tablet, firing up the eReader app but quickly switching to email, web browsing and games. I stayed less longer in coffee shops, doodling around on the tablets and getting restless quickly.
Then I bought a new Kindle and immediately I went back to reading a lot (usually two books a week). My tablet is now a living room fixture for when I watch a movie; when I go to a coffee shop I bring my Kindle and use my phone if I want to check my emails, which happens a lot less often when I read.
With my first Kindle I used to turn the wifi off to save battery but with the new one I find that I actually like the always-connected approach. I like to take notes and it's convenient that they follow my Amazon account, it makes it easier for me to go and buy a few books to dig a little more in a topic I found interesting. The Kindle is as convenient for buying books than the iPod Touch for buying music.
Tablets are great to read articles, emails and view diagrams. For books there is nothing like the Kindle (it's even better than actual books!).
I can't find a spare ethernet cable
The rest of it rings true, but this is just too far fetched. Ethernet cables are like wire coat hangers - they breed. I try to keep them confined to my study/shed, but they have to be purged regularly to stop them taking over the house.
That's why wireless cables are so convenient, they take less space. Also even if the 802.11n jacks are more expensive than RJ45s at least they are not just the right size to allow someone to plug in a USB cable by mistake.
Forget all this MMU nonsense, what this thing need is MMX!
But he'll be one of a few sites on the server, not one of hundreds. And the sites on this server are mostly maintained by professional developers, not some guy installing an outdated Joomla or vulnerable PHP in 24 Hours code. Admittedly, my goal is to get more of the little guys on the server and thus there will be more vulnerable code on the server, but it is nowhere near the mess that is running on Bluehost servers (yet).
So what you describe is a situation where the value of your service will go down as your sales go up... At least you deserve some credit for being honest!
Ok here is the same quizz, techie edition.
1. Which of the following is a form of censorship?
A) Microsoft offering computers and software to public schools as a way to support computer literacy while promoting their own products.
B) Apple deciding to put asterisks instead of the proper title for a Naomi Wolf book in its iBookstore.
C) Linus Torvalds forcing a lousy SCM system (twice) on everyone that wants to contribute to the Linux kernel project.
D) Facebook asking people to pay to have their posts floating slightly closer to the surface in the waves of uninteresting content submerging their servers.
To be honest the right answer to both quizzes is to mod my comment down as flamebait so for once the crowd appears to be right!
Still, the original point would be that mass murder *is* a form of censorship.
Reminds me of a tech certification exam, where sometimes the right answer is the overkill one.
1. Which of the following is a form of censorship*:
A) Noam Chomsky complaining to Larry King during his primetime show that a conservative conspiracy prevents him from having access to mainstream medias.
B) The Muslims of the Handschar units using mass murder as a way to eradicate the communist resistance against nazis in former Yugoslavia in the 40s.
C) Spencer Tracy winning an Oscar for his role in Inherit the Wind, a movie that makes fun of 44% of the American population (those who totally reject the Theory of Evolution, as opposed to the 39% accepting the Theory as long as it includes a mention of God being somehow involved and the 10% rejecting God's role altogether).
D) The Hamas launching 2,256 rockets at Israel in 2012, to an average cost of $800 per rocket, while complaining in complacent liberal medias that the Palestinian people is starving.
*While each and every one of these situations is biased towards a specific position, only one qualifies as censorship.
It's not always cost-effective to host your own platform - you need hardware, power and cooling, a reliable internet connection with good upload speed, maintenance, backup, etc. and you get to live with a pager, There are plenty of cheap Linux hosts out there where all the possible software is available. As an example there is Bluehost where the $5/month hosting plan comes with a SimpleScripts subscription which allows you to deploy just about any application in a jiffy (including all the CMS, blogging and social media stuff you can think of, including Drupal).
Don't go with Bluehost, I myself tested them a few months ago and I just moved a client off them last month. I don't think I've ever seen a system load below 20 on their machines (at least they do provide SSH access) and I've seen it get scarily close to 100. The performance is exactly what you would expect on such a loaded server.
I'm now doing reseller hosting for some clients. I can get you a very decent hosting setup, and customize it to your needs, and install a CMS for you, for $10 monthly. It would be comparable to what you'd pay about double that anywhere else, and honestly, resource-wise it will seem like you've got just about the whole server to yourself. Email me, my Gmail username is the same as my Slashdot username.
Here is my current system load, unedited right off the server:
$ uptime
20:58:34 up 9 days, 10:57, 1 user, load average: 0.16, 0.15, 0.11
Ok so basically the guy would have to pick :
1) an established provider that is hosting millions of domains (says them) in their 50,000 square ft data center in Utah for $5
2) some dude who is doing fly-by-night reselling for an unknown host and is advertising his 9-day uptime server for free on Slashdot and of course offers better performance (says him) for $10
I don't have a dog in this fight but if I had I'd go with the Mormons and use the $5 I saved to keep a mirror site on another cheap provider.
Don't recommend they get a budget webhost!
Most cities, even the small ones, will have some form of technology infrastructure in place. If you need to get a new server in, then they should have the budget to maintain it. Any companies that start to provide services to a city will need to get picked through an RFP process, which generally cuts out the budget web hosting services.
This is not correct. In any level of government there is a threshold under which there is no need for a costly RFP process, and since the OP is basically saying they don't have money, there is no point in going that route. Anyways no decent provider will waste time responding to a personnalized RFP for a webhosting kind of budget, it would have to be included in a bucket of IT services and that's a whole other story.
I made it clear in my comment that I would advise a full-scale cloud provider (such as Azure) but given the choice between a local frankenserver connected to internet with a cheap DSL modem and volunteer-like support or a cheap webhost it's a no-brainer.
It's not always cost-effective to host your own platform - you need hardware, power and cooling, a reliable internet connection with good upload speed, maintenance, backup, etc. and you get to live with a pager, There are plenty of cheap Linux hosts out there where all the possible software is available. As an example there is Bluehost where the $5/month hosting plan comes with a SimpleScripts subscription which allows you to deploy just about any application in a jiffy (including all the CMS, blogging and social media stuff you can think of, including Drupal). Of course for that price you can't expect stellar performance, there will be hundreds of other websites on the same machine.
If you want something more robust and you are open to other things than FOSS than have a look at Microsoft Azure. It's more expensive than cheap Linux hosting but for $25-$50/month you can have a very robust cloud setup (load balancing, backup, etc) and no additional license cost. And the nice thing on Azure is that you can deploy an configure a new CMS (like Joomla or DotNetNuke) using a click wizard, it's even more user-friendly than SimpleScripts, you get to choose the various options, not just the admin password. Also with Azure you get a 3 months free trial to see if you like it. And if you somehow can't sleep with the idea of a .Net webapp you can deploy PHP stuff - you can even host a Linux VM and run whatever you want on it but that would kinda defeat the purpose of using cloud services.
Whatever you do make sure you don't become the "owner" of a local setup. People will start to have unrealistic expectations and will be mad at you when "your" server is down because of a power or internet failure. If you really can't afford a few dollars a month go see an elected official and ask for guidance, I'm sure they can find a federal program to get you pennies.
If the executive is math literate, it sends the message that the street's valuation lead the harvesting of value.
No, it sends the message that the market is hell-bent on speculation and that in a world where a company that pays dividends is accused of having "no imagination" the only way to please shareholders is to make the stock price go up no matter what. This leads to short-term plans and a plethoras of shallow business trends like "pivoting".
I hope you've got youth, because you're light on discernment.
Well I have enough discernment to see that you have no idea that being shrewd has nothing to do with when you buy a stock but rather on how much money you make with it - which by any possible interpretation of Wall Street history is done by investing in companies that pay dividends, not by playing zero-sum games where you make a penny only when someone else gets fucked.
I think that's as much horseshit as thinking 40 and under make an ideal company. If you ask me the biggest problem with the economy and business isn't republicans or democrats, it's that people whose best years and best ideas are behind them, but they want to squeeze the last drop of blood out and make sure every last cent is off the table (even at the expense of greater profit in 2-5 years with investment). If they can do so with 6 month initiatives and lots of processes and Jack Welchian business practices, they will (and believe me, they do). Investors are no doubt leery of older people who are too experienced.
In its last quarter, Apple made about 50 billions and achieved an increase of around 25% of its earnings. Yet the value of its stock dropped because analysts expected more. What kind of message do you think this situation sends to executive? Focus on long-term growth?
Everybody cries about programmed obsolescence and incompatible adapters and software assurance and all other quick-money-making schemes, yet they sell their f*cking stock when one of the most profitable companies in the world does not meet analysts predictions on the last quarter. It's easy to blame those evil executive or those crooked bankers but the truth is that their own job is on the line if they don't make the silly numbers a bunch of charlatans are pulling out of thin air. And just about anyone with a trading account or a 401(k) is complicit to this madness.
I left that place when I was 32 - after I sold my creations (plural) there to the highest bidders
Reminds me of a scene from the book Microserfs (Douglas Coupland):
Ethan: "I have brought four products to market myself. Four very successful products. (Unspoken sentiment hangs in the air like dying fart: "Yeah, but your companies all tanked within a year.")
They now lead the way for 1.6% of the market... Meanwhile an IDC study says that for the first time Apple and Android devices are about to beat RIM in the enterprise.
The dude from Morgan Stanley sums it up: "While some of the new features on BB10 seem innovative, we had a similar reaction to Palm’s WebOS when we saw it at CES in ‘09".
(See http://www.thestar.com/business/article/1293791--rim-tumbles-as-blackberry-s-u-s-market-share-drops-to-1-6-per-cent)
How come there is no tiles? Give us tiles!
Thanks to those scientists we now know that the Higher Power that created the universes is either using a templating system or has very strict design patterns, which means that if someone finds a flaw in internet the exploit could possibly be reused to hack the human brain or even destroy the universe. Let's hope the terrorists don't find out!
The lower the pH gets, the better chlorine will work. Being closer than ever to pool-quality water in the ocean, the Antarctic people should spin this and enjoy a boom in tourism! I bet they can't wait to see more people that those bearded scientists who don't spend a dime on penguin art.
I think Fama would disagree with you
As part of the evaluation, we spoke to close to a dozen other companies that recently went through the same process, and pretty much got the same response - that the users overwhelmingly refused to have anything to do with a RIM product, and wanted the flashy new iPhone or GIII.
I'd be curious to know where people put the Windows 8 phone in that lineup.