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  1. In this quote, replace "Flynn" with "Jack Bauer" or "Carrie Mathison" and tell me it truly sounds like incompetence.

    Those are fictional characters and this is real life. The real life consequences of his actions may have resulted in real damage to national security.

    You don't even know what happened. You don't know if that rogue internet connection was connected to his workstation or if he just wanted to use his personal iPad at work.There's no information there to show anything but a guy that doesn't behave like a mindless robot who follows orders blindly.

  2. It's amazing how many of you US experts on Islam there are on the Internet, with all of your deep knowledge about a large fraction of the Earth's population.

    Dude, that's on wikipedia and this "house of islam" ideology has been abundantly communicated in multiple declarations by various muslim radical groups. If your strategy is to accuse people of making shit up, provide facts and sources to support your view, right now you're just being a bigot.

  3. White nationalist nut jobs in America and Europe probably approach 75 million when you combine active members and support. They don't have much of a religious bent to them but that's not really comforting to the rest of us.

    I don't think people understand large scale numbers. Here's the figure for white supremacy in the USA:

    Levin estimated fewer than 50,000 people are members of white supremacist groups, but he says their influence is growing with a more sophisticated approach

    http://www.civilrights.org/pub...

    Use whatever semantics or math you want, there's just no way you can get to 75 million people that condone violence made by white supremacy group. It's just not the case. Find another ideology or group if you want to make the 75 million pro-terrorist muslims look like something else than a massive number of fanatics.

    those who deliberately emphasize that propaganda are deliberately helping ISIS.

    I don't follow your logic. When someone like me says that ISIS is mass murderers, or that 75 millions muslims out of 1.5 billions endorse and support violence as a way to promote their religious view, I'm not involved in propaganda, and I'm not "confusing" those 75 million fanatics with the 1.425 billion non-fanatics.

    They DO exist, and there's shitloads more of them than there are extremists of other religions or ideologies, and refusing to see that on account of some politically correct bullshit is madness. There comes a point where trying that hard not to be a bigot makes you a fool.

    This all reminds me of that Rotherham situation where a pakistani pedophile ring was left alone for years because the cops didn't want to look racist by investigating them.

    Members of the British-Pakistani Muslim community condemned both the sexual abuse and the fact that it had been covered up for fear of "giving oxygen" to racism

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    The same shit happened at Rochdale too:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    Same shit: white people wanting so badly to not be racists that they let criminals abuse children for years.

    So the lesson here is simple: stop being offended on behalf of muslims when someone mentions that a small percentage of them are a bunch of fanatics. You're helping nobody, including the muslims. If you have energy to spend, defend the people who are murdered or the girls who are passed around as sex slaves in the ISIS Caliphate.

  4. Why is it so hard to understand that just because a religion or an interpretation of it in theory requires a violent act doesn't mean all followers actually follow through? This speaks more about bigotry.

    What speaks more about bigotry is how liberals will get their panties in a bunch when someone mentions jihadist mass murderers, as if acknowledging the problem is the same as not making the difference between "normal muslims" and radicals.

    Here's real numbers for you. Around the world, there are roughly 75 million muslims that condone and/or support terrorist activities. It's a small percentage (there's around 1.5 billion muslims total) but there's no other religion with such a massive following of fanatics.

    http://www.pewglobal.org/2006/...

    Now if you want to make your mission in life to defend the honor of the remaining 1.425 billion (that nobody except for their own lunatic fringe is putting on trial by the way), go for it. Maybe if someone you care about happens to be in a stadium or supermarket when "freedom fighters" show up with bomb vests and AK-47 your perspective will change. One thing is for sure, if that happens, it's not a Bible or a Torah that those "freedom fighters" will carry with them.

    But it's ok, coward. Go on and make me (or anyone who doesn't embrace the politically correct bullshit) the bad person while ISIS is out there burning, raping, torturing and killing people. I'm not a real threat and I don't have bombs so it's easier to focus your anger on people like me while safely draping yourself in the cloth of the self-righteous.

  5. Flynn broke rules he thought were stupid. He once told me about a period he spent assigned to a C.I.A. station in Iraq, when he would sometimes sneak out of the compound without the “insane” required approval from C.I.A. headquarters, in Langley, Virginia. He had technicians secretly install an Internet connection in his Pentagon office, even though it was forbidden. There was also the time he gave classified information to nato allies without approval, an incident which prompted an investigation, and a warning from superiors. During his stint as Mullen’s intelligence chief, Flynn would often write “This is bullshit!” in the margins of classified papers he was obliged to pass on to his boss, someone who saw these papers told me.

    So this is information the reporter collected from sources which include Flynn himself.

    In this quote, replace "Flynn" with "Jack Bauer" or "Carrie Mathison" and tell me it truly sounds like incompetence.

    Mavericks and people who thrive in large, heavily hierarchical organizations without losing their free will are awesome. I mean, maybe this Flynn guy is some kind of idiot but that's not something that is clearly established in that article. If anything he sounds like someone I would have loved to work with.

  6. Right, 80% is completely bogus. it's not 80%, it's to kill or enslave whoever isn't a Muslim.

    It's even more strict than that. In order to be spared, a country must be part of "the House of Islam" (Dar al-islam), which is defined by 3 rules:

    1. Muslims must be able to enjoy peace and security with and within this country.
    2. The country should be ruled by a Muslim government
    3. It has common frontiers with some Muslim countries.

    Everything else is heathens.

    There are lesser targets (like Dar al-Dawa, pro-Muslim countries that don't match the 3 rules) but they're also slated for extermination if they don't become proper Muslim countries.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    The only Dar al-Islam region in recent history was Afghanistan under the Taliban rule. Anything else was at best al-Dawa.

    Of course some people see a reality TV real estate buffoon as the Pure Evil that will destroy the planet with war and intolerance, I'll be curious to see how those people will thrive under the rule of radical Islam.

  7. Its kinda stunning that (most) of the GOP is going along with a wholesale appointment of incompetence.

    He doesn't owe them. They did not help him get elected, at all. So at the moment they have no leverage whatsoever. Later there will be some quid pro quo going on because they will need each other, but in the meantime he's a kid in a candy store and he's picking people who won't prevent him from Making America Great Again.

  8. Here's the relevant parts of the summary.

    According to ... according to ... apparently ... doesn't provide a clear picture as to why... It's likely ... or possibly ... If ... It's also possible ...

    Everything else in the summary is conjecture.

  9. Re: What an empty life on Right-Wing and Fake News Writers Are Now Going After Elon Musk (qz.com) · · Score: 1

    Gandhi was no wild eyed extremist. Martin Luther King was also no hatred spewing radical.

    I'm sure they would have gone along just fine. As described on Wikipedia:

    In 2016, a group of Ghanaian academics, students and artists called for the removal of a statue of Mahatma Gandhi from a university campus. They accused Gandhi of being racist towards black people by holding the view that Indians were higher than them. This view was also held by two South African professors Ashwin Desai and Goolam Vahed who claimed that Gandhi described black Africans as “savage,” “raw” and living a life of “indolence and nakedness”. Gandhi also demanded separate entrances for blacks and Indians at the Durban post office while he was living in South Africa.

  10. Re: What an empty life on Right-Wing and Fake News Writers Are Now Going After Elon Musk (qz.com) · · Score: 1

    "white devil"

    You been watching too many 70s flicks, son.

    Even better, in attempting to be reasonable you compare them to an animal protection organisation.

    The irony is very, very thick.

    Once you remove the stick that's up your ass, look at this:

    "When the tragic shooting of Trooper Dermyer happened right here in my own city and it directly impacted my community," said Capps. "I took it personally. I wanted to do something about it."

    And so the 16-year-old conservative blogger, who has interned with national news outlets like Fox News, decided to organize a Blue Lives Matter rally.

    Critics of the rally point to the recent Black Lives Matter movement that spawned in response to the killings of young black men at the hand of white officers. They took offense and slammed Emma as a "White Devil" on social media.

    http://meredithaz.worldnow.com...

    or:

    UC Berkeley Student Columnist Maggie Lam Attacks the “White Devil,” “Skinny White Girls”

    http://heatst.com/culture-wars...

    or any other results that google will give you for "black lives matter white devil".

    Also apparently you don't know what irony means.

  11. Re: What an empty life on Right-Wing and Fake News Writers Are Now Going After Elon Musk (qz.com) · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't think BLM is about every individual case (there's the ACLU for that), and we can all see that in some of those situations things are not that "black & white" (so to speak). In some demonstrations we can also see some form of hatred (against cops, against "white devil", etc).

    I think BLM is more of a reaction to institutionalized racism that persists to this day - things like black drivers being pulled over because they're black, which is real. The constant grind of discontent leads to this. Just like PETA they're a bit over the top and often biased and unfair, but they're the only way society can move forward. Middle-of-the-road opinions don't bring change.

  12. Re: What an empty life on Right-Wing and Fake News Writers Are Now Going After Elon Musk (qz.com) · · Score: 3, Funny

    Fake news has been a thing for a long ass fucking time, why are they JUST NOW making a big deal out of it? Examples of really old fake news sites:

    prisonplanet.com

    That site could fool anyone with their fake news; how could someone know that the current headline ("Butt-Hurt Losers Demand Election Recount!") is not impartial, objective news?

  13. What we're seeing is you not seeing any of the arguments actually presented against Devos. Ever. Ever. Ever.

    What arguments? instead of linking random, irrelevant sites, explain those arguments yourself, in your own words.

    Of course you won't because just like the whole Clinton campaign this is just more vague, baseless accusations that only surf on "trump=bad" with zero substance whatsoever. If you had had any real point to bring up you would already have done so instead of trying to paint me as the one who doesn't stay on topic. Your trolling is weak, pal.

  14. Yeah it does feel a bit like playing dodge ball in high school and the only people left to pick for your team are the rejects, the nutjobs and the wheelchair kids.

    Can you imagine having to give Teabaggers a position in your administration, that must be fun.

  15. You're the one who linked to a liberal "Dear Abby" website to defend your position about Devos. Don't come here crying about the fact that it's a completely ridiculous way to back an already biased position.

  16. Also, bear in mind, that once it is done, it's way too late to start warning people about it.

    It's not Trump and his followers that people need to worry about, it's the disgruntled liberals and their extreme anger and intolerance which is a path to dictatorship. Trump didn't send people to disrupt Clinton events, his followers didn't try to take companies hostage because of the political affiliation of one of their board members.

    As for Trump catastrophically ignorant decisions: so far all the damage that can be truly attributed to him is some ruffled feathers and extravagant declarations during the campaign; if anything, he's already an asset to the country because of his stance with the TPP.

    Obviously the liberals are now blowing a gasket over this and accusing him of all the evils, and yet here's what Wikipedia has to say:

    In 2014, linguist and political activist Noam Chomsky warned that the TPP is "designed to carry forward the neoliberal project to maximise profit and domination, and to set the working people in the world in competition with one another so as to lower wages to increase insecurity." Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT) argues that trade agreements like the TPP "have ended up devastating working families and enriching large corporations." Professor Robert Reich contends that the TPP is a "Trojan horse in a global race to the bottom."

    Clinton would have never had the guts to pull the plug on this, she would have happily sold the country to foreign interests, just like she changed her stance on bankruptcy to please her Wall Street backers.

  17. What we're seeing is you not seeing any of the arguments actually presented against Devos. Ever.

    Ever.
    Ever.
    Ever.

    Sorry, but when considering picks for running the Department of Education, I'd put her on the typical right-wing DESTROY PUBLIC SCHOOLS BECAUSE THEY HATE GOD committee.

    You really gonna post links to Mother Jones and nymag and use that as references? Did you miss the recent scare about fake news?

    For instance, here's what's on the front page of nymag right now:

    Ask Polly: How Do I Deal With My Trump-Voter Dad?

    How do I mesh the man I loved and respected with the man who voted for Trump? How do I stay friends with people who voted Trump? Please help me. I’m really struggling with how to move forward.

    http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/1...

    Someone is asking how she can respect her father, knowing that he voted for Trump. What kind of person can get that far in their brainwash? That's the kind of question people would ask in Hitler Youth.

    And here's the best part:

    I tried talking calmly to my dad and just got a steady stream of Fox News bull$&@!

    Someone is writing to NYMAG saying that they can no longer respect their father because he voted for Trump, and in the same breath they go and complain that he's the one spewing propaganda.

    Really, wtf. One has to wonder how, as a society, we got to a point where the intolerance of the liberals has reached the point where they reject their own parents for voting Republican.

  18. You really want those idiots in charge of the F35 in charge of developing economical space travel?

    As opposed to the Skylab, space shuttle disasters and other failures? Yes.

  19. We're fanatics ? Because we fear that a fascist may act like a fascist and create a dictatorship - or start a nuclear war, both of which would prevent another election from happening.

    Yes.

    See, here's the thing with fanatics, villains and terrorists. They're always convinced they're on the "right" side. Nobody in his right mind is going to see himself as a fanatic.

    But see, you lost your election and now you're talking about Trump creating a dictatorship. That's not a healthy, moderate behavior. That's severely disturbed and if you can't see it, that's probably because you've gone too far already. This has gone beyond getting your panties in a bunch, you're part of an extremely dangerous group hysteria that really, really need to calm down.

    Print this fucking thread and read it again in a few months, you'll see how insane you sound.

  20. Instead of making wild accusations, why don't you explain exactly what's wrong with Trump's nominee for Education? The only thing she's truly famous for is her stance on right-to-choose and vouchers.

    See, it takes more than "it's a Trump nominee" to label someone an incompetent. We're seeing the same pattern as during the election; there's nothing to support arguments, it's always just Trump=bad.

    If you disagree with this nomination, explain why.

  21. The sad reality is that this may very well have been the very last election in the USA.

    Are you for real? You lose one election and all of a sudden democracy is dead?

    From what I see, we actually dodged a bullet because Clinton supporters are apparently a bunch of fanatics like you.

  22. Trump is not choosing the finest people for a role from all of the USA but instead from a tiny bunch of cronies

    First, that's what all presidents do. Why do you think Wall Street people ended up in charge of treasury.

    Second, Trump is a bit different because he has very, very few "cronies". With the exception of Thiel he was basically alone during his campaign. He owes nothing to no one. I can't tell at the moment if it's a good or bad thing, but it's new, that's for sure.

  23. I'm glad you had the opportunity to use the expression "road warrior psycho dystopia", unfortunately it doesn't make sense in the context of this thread.

    I'm not saying there should be no government or no government agencies, I'm saying the military (which is part of the government) is better suited for the kind of work NASA is failing at.

  24. I think you don't understand defence - aerospace was a critical industry and the US government fed bids to competing firms alternately purely to keep them alive for supplier diversity rather than on technical merits. NASA's role in creating the actual practice of spaceflight can't be overstated, nor their research.

    American Astronauts currently have to hitch a ride on a Russian spaceship designed in the 60s. I think that says it all.

  25. Don't tempt him to rewrite physics books. He appears to be willing and able, since ignorance is on his side.

    Too late. No doubt his nominee for Department of Education will do it for him.

    I take it that you don't want poor black kids to be able to go to school in your wealthy neighborhood?