I'll trade you, I had a similar problem with my extensa 5620.
Turns out for mine that the Intel chipset is BUGGY, BUGGY, BUGGY. Bad Integrated Video design. (because of this, I cannot have video playback and Beryl at the same time) Bad Sound design, the linux people are solving this. Poor wireless design. They are getting this one solved as well, but I had to let the install set up ndis instead of native.
Intel used to make such good chipsets. Intel is messing up so bad, I can play Battlefield 2 in XP on this laptop, but it won't even limp along in Vista. They claim Intel is having problems with the chipsets these days...
Anyway, I did a search on the net, and someone had solved my problem with sound in linux already. I hope you have as much luck.
I really need to stick to AMD, my (wifes)AMD Acer Laptop plays much better with linux. I think AMD is really getting the chipset thing mastered.
Mine came up rather fast too (as mentioned, half the stuff takes another minute to complete startup)
And then I installed 4 gigs and a NVidia 7600. It doubled the boot time! Don't know what is to blame, but since I only occasionally boot into Vista, I have not invested the time to find out.
Meanwhile, the Video Card and Memory did not impact my Linux install at all. But even MY Linux on a much faster dual core does not go as fast as Acer is claiming. I will be impressed when I get one and it boots at this speed.
Your right, it is huge. Acer's largest rival is probubly ASUS. I wonder if the sweetheart relationship that ASUS has with MS is driving this announcement.
I predict that ASUS will keep the price of the Linux UMPC's higher than the MS ones. This will be part of the agreement with MS that saved them a ton of cash.(my speculation)
This would provide Acer an opportunity to make shure ASUS does not grab volume at the low end.
If ANYONE can get sleep to work, they should after all THEY MAKE THE LAPTOP!
Once all the manufacturers start producing Linux Computers, we are going to see driver/chipset compatibility issues going away forever. To stay in business every chipset and board manufacturer will have to produce documentation for Linux devs or produce the drivers themselves.
I know this was supposed to be funny, but it is so 5 years ago.
Example,I do not see a difference between Dell and Acer. Both have decent hardware most of the time, often crappy customer support.
I have had such good experience with Acer as of late, that on Dec 27, I bought two well optioned Laptops at $499 each. The slightly better spec'd one was a Toshiba, and the other an Acer. When I got home a week later, I sold the Toshiba to my cousin, and KEPT the Acer. YMMV
Will Acer change directions and reap the cash?
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Two Scenarios
1. Acer will stay the course, and refuse incentives from MS. 2. MS will give Acer such a good deal that they will announce "it turns out that Linux was a bad fit for most of our product line".
I have tried hard to find his email address, with no success. I leave messages on his email webpage, but It must not work, as I keep getting the messages.
Any solid help from anyone would be appreciated. It is very frusterating
You missed the third model, employed by companies like Symantic and CA. They buy companies and then never really improve a product or fix bugs... they just milk it till it dies.
Linux can rule the world, and still only be associated with 5% of the server revenue, as the servers can be sold with no OS or another OS, then run linux. Secondly, A few old Unix licences could cost more than a whole universe full Linux licences. Free times 100 trillion is still free.
I think you are the troll... thus posting as AC
P.S. By your metrics, candy bars and pop could be considered more important to the world than water, as water only counts for a fraction of sales in stores. (same goes for oil and water, water is way more important, yet oil generates FAR more revenue)
Ya, rating the importance of something by revenue generated seems like a lame idea now, doesn't it?
OK Nick You sold out... and your proud that you recieved NOTHING from MS for doing it? OK, that is just plain stupid. At least when I sell my soul to my employer, they pay me.
This is not over. Until Ebay/skype make big contributions to open source, we will remember that they are the enemy of the free, and though they lost, have not repented.
I know ebay treats the customers and seller poorly, but this shows what is really inside that corp. Nothing but greed.
Your post is almost a troll, but you didn't mean it that way I am sure.
Linux works well with far more hardware than OSX! So don't use OSX as the posterboy for hardware compatibility, please.
OSX does work well if you stick to the hardware that is sold or supported by Appl.(But Linux works well on hardware that is listed as supported as well). And as lousy as MS is as a company, they have traditionally done an excellent job in the compatibility area.
I realize that you are probubly mocking some "year of the Linux desktop" reporter, but man, is this old line ever getting TIRED. Please let it die!
Linux will have its own year of the desktop in the same century as Apple. Yep, that is right, it will never happen for either. Migrations are far too gradual to pinpoint to any year.
SUMMARY: Linux will have a 90% marketshare someday, and NEVER have had a "year of Linux on the desktop"
I work in a rather large IT shop. I can say we have had a large increase in the number of IT people who use APPL at home, but on the corporate desktop we are mostly all windows. The only exception is a few people who have moved to Linux(and a few more who have done so unofficially just to make working easier). And yes, they do everything on Linux(our email system is based on Lotus Notes).
I can see eventual pressure to bring in the Silver and white equipment, but not from the point of getting the job done the best. Instead, it will be people who want to appear cool.
That is great because most 3rd world kids will want to upgrade to a new gaming card.. oh wait. Ya because they will need to be able to print on the newest color laser printer... oh wait.
Ok, what does the slight lead window has in driver availability have ANYTHING to do with this discussion????
I wrote well, except for one statement. "What is being taught in schools about evolution is mostly demonstrable."
If you look at most textbooks being used in school to teach evolution, you would be disapointed. They use misleading statements and embrace half truths(lies). Time to clean up the texts and stick with truthful representation.
It does not take much to rile up the people who hold "evolution" as a religion.
Sorry, on/. the only worse thing than not saying Apple is perfect is pointing out the acts of Evolutionist zelots.
If this post stays flamebait -1, I need to start looking into Big Bang Evolution alternitives, any group this reactionary does not feel too secure about what they believe in.
Lets save flamebait modding for true flamebait... like "Appl sux, none of the stuff works" and "only idiots believe evolution". Pointing out an example of where a person was oppressed by a creationist or evolutionist or MS fan or Apple fan IS NOT FLAMEBAIT.
1. Lets take a shape that has so much aerodynamic drag that opening the window won't have a great effect. 2. Then lets run it at a low speed, where parasitic drag is the lowest. 3. Then, lets find a vehicle with an air conditioner that could cool a house. 4. Then instead of finding a comfort point, turn it on full so the occupants have to wear winter jackets.
DUH - the open window(s) appear to be more efficient. This is offensive to the extreme, AND CAUSES HARM TO THE ENVIRONMENT as 80% of the US now thinks that it is more efficient to open windows, and now some may do so on the HWY.(while/.ers seem to think the show is entertainment, I find most people seem to think it is factual)
(If this test had been done on a car with low drag at 60 or 70, the result would have been SO different)
You said "If you've ever read Joel's article about the file formats, you'd understand that there are some behaviors that simply can't be described other than to say "here is the piece of code that produces that output"."
LOL DON'T EVER SAY THIS AT A RATIONAL CONFERENCE. You will be laughed out of the building if someone doesn't kill you first.
Show me anything that can't be described by finite state diagrams/uml or Use Cases. Go ahead, I assure you it is not these file formats!
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I'll trade you, I had a similar problem with my extensa 5620.
...
Turns out for mine that the Intel chipset is BUGGY, BUGGY, BUGGY.
Bad Integrated Video design. (because of this, I cannot have video playback and Beryl at the same time)
Bad Sound design, the linux people are solving this.
Poor wireless design. They are getting this one solved as well, but I had to let the install set up ndis instead of native.
Intel used to make such good chipsets.
Intel is messing up so bad, I can play Battlefield 2 in XP on this laptop, but it won't even limp along in Vista. They claim Intel is having problems with the chipsets these days
Anyway, I did a search on the net, and someone had solved my problem with sound in linux already. I hope you have as much luck.
I really need to stick to AMD, my (wifes)AMD Acer Laptop plays much better with linux. I think AMD is really getting the chipset thing mastered.
Obviously a 512MB Laptop. Yes, no PC with Vista should ship with that amount of memory.
But it really is not the fault of the PC design, as much as a poor memory choice. BTW, for another 25-50 dollars you can have 2 more gigs, right?
Mine came up rather fast too (as mentioned, half the stuff takes another minute to complete startup)
And then I installed 4 gigs and a NVidia 7600. It doubled the boot time! Don't know what is to blame, but since I only occasionally boot into Vista, I have not invested the time to find out.
Meanwhile, the Video Card and Memory did not impact my Linux install at all. But even MY Linux on a much faster dual core does not go as fast as Acer is claiming. I will be impressed when I get one and it boots at this speed.
Your right, it is huge.
Acer's largest rival is probubly ASUS. I wonder if the sweetheart relationship that ASUS has with MS is driving this announcement.
I predict that ASUS will keep the price of the Linux UMPC's higher than the MS ones. This will be part of the agreement with MS that saved them a ton of cash.(my speculation)
This would provide Acer an opportunity to make shure ASUS does not grab volume at the low end.
If ANYONE can get sleep to work, they should after all THEY MAKE THE LAPTOP!
Once all the manufacturers start producing Linux Computers, we are going to see driver/chipset compatibility issues going away forever. To stay in business every chipset and board manufacturer will have to produce documentation for Linux devs or produce the drivers themselves.
I know this was supposed to be funny, but it is so 5 years ago.
Example,I do not see a difference between Dell and Acer. Both have decent hardware most of the time, often crappy customer support.
I have had such good experience with Acer as of late, that on Dec 27, I bought two well optioned Laptops at $499 each. The slightly better spec'd one was a Toshiba, and the other an Acer.
When I got home a week later, I sold the Toshiba to my cousin, and KEPT the Acer. YMMV
Two Scenarios
1. Acer will stay the course, and refuse incentives from MS.
2. MS will give Acer such a good deal that they will announce "it turns out that Linux was a bad fit for most of our product line".
We will now see what kink of company Acer is.
Is the ISO rewriting the rules so the protest and appeals cannot happen again?
or
Is the ISO rewiting the rules so the corruption cannot occur again?
I would not bet my life on the second.
I have tried hard to find his email address, with no success. I leave messages on his email webpage, but It must not work, as I keep getting the messages.
Any solid help from anyone would be appreciated. It is very frusterating
I don't think Michael Robertson has a shred of legitimacy.
First, I KEEP trying to get off his spam list for Michael's Minutes, and Linspire. Do they ever remove my name? NOOO
What can I do to get these unrepentant spammers off my back? Does anyone have any ideas?
(second, he sold out to MS, a whole other problem)
You missed the third model, employed by companies like Symantic and CA. They buy companies and then never really improve a product or fix bugs... they just milk it till it dies.
Using the 12.7 % figure is totally lame.
Linux can rule the world, and still only be associated with 5% of the server revenue, as the servers can be sold with no OS or another OS, then run linux. Secondly, A few old Unix licences could cost more than a whole universe full Linux licences. Free times 100 trillion is still free.
I think you are the troll... thus posting as AC
P.S. By your metrics, candy bars and pop could be considered more important to the world than water, as water only counts for a fraction of sales in stores. (same goes for oil and water, water is way more important, yet oil generates FAR more revenue)
Ya, rating the importance of something by revenue generated seems like a lame idea now, doesn't it?
OK Nick
You sold out... and your proud that you recieved NOTHING from MS for doing it?
OK, that is just plain stupid. At least when I sell my soul to my employer, they pay me.
This is not over. Until Ebay/skype make big contributions to open source, we will remember that they are the enemy of the free, and though they lost, have not repented.
I know ebay treats the customers and seller poorly, but this shows what is really inside that corp. Nothing but greed.
Your post is almost a troll, but you didn't mean it that way I am sure.
Linux works well with far more hardware than OSX! So don't use OSX as the posterboy for hardware compatibility, please.
OSX does work well if you stick to the hardware that is sold or supported by Appl.(But Linux works well on hardware that is listed as supported as well). And as lousy as MS is as a company, they have traditionally done an excellent job in the compatibility area.
I realize that you are probubly mocking some "year of the Linux desktop" reporter, but man, is this old line ever getting TIRED. Please let it die!
Linux will have its own year of the desktop in the same century as Apple.
Yep, that is right, it will never happen for either.
Migrations are far too gradual to pinpoint to any year.
SUMMARY: Linux will have a 90% marketshare someday, and NEVER have had a "year of Linux on the desktop"
I work in a rather large IT shop. I can say we have had a large increase in the number of IT people who use APPL at home, but on the corporate desktop we are mostly all windows. The only exception is a few people who have moved to Linux(and a few more who have done so unofficially just to make working easier). And yes, they do everything on Linux(our email system is based on Lotus Notes).
I can see eventual pressure to bring in the Silver and white equipment, but not from the point of getting the job done the best. Instead, it will be people who want to appear cool.
That is great because most 3rd world kids will want to upgrade to a new gaming card.. oh wait.
Ya because they will need to be able to print on the newest color laser printer... oh wait.
Ok, what does the slight lead window has in driver availability have ANYTHING to do with this discussion????
I wrote well, except for one statement. "What is being taught in schools about evolution is mostly demonstrable."
If you look at most textbooks being used in school to teach evolution, you would be disapointed. They use misleading statements and embrace half truths(lies). Time to clean up the texts and stick with truthful representation.
Wow,
/. the only worse thing than not saying Apple is perfect is pointing out the acts of Evolutionist zelots.
It does not take much to rile up the people who hold "evolution" as a religion.
Sorry, on
If this post stays flamebait -1, I need to start looking into Big Bang Evolution alternitives, any group this reactionary does not feel too secure about what they believe in.
Lets save flamebait modding for true flamebait... like "Appl sux, none of the stuff works" and "only idiots believe evolution". Pointing out an example of where a person was oppressed by a creationist or evolutionist or MS fan or Apple fan IS NOT FLAMEBAIT.
In my experience, the Fit got good(well, at least OK) gas mileage around town, no complaints.
On the HWY the fuel mileage was not much different than large cars I've driven.
I believe old civic was better, I blame the Fit for excessive drag, but I don't know what the real problem is.
That mythbusters episode really repulsed me.
/.ers seem to think the show is entertainment, I find most people seem to think it is factual)
1. Lets take a shape that has so much aerodynamic drag that opening the window won't have a great effect.
2. Then lets run it at a low speed, where parasitic drag is the lowest.
3. Then, lets find a vehicle with an air conditioner that could cool a house.
4. Then instead of finding a comfort point, turn it on full so the occupants have to wear winter jackets.
DUH - the open window(s) appear to be more efficient. This is offensive to the extreme, AND CAUSES HARM TO THE ENVIRONMENT as 80% of the US now thinks that it is more efficient to open windows, and now some may do so on the HWY.(while
(If this test had been done on a car with low drag at 60 or 70, the result would have been SO different)
That is like launching ICBM's and as soon as they detonate, calling for a ceasefire.
NO, I will only stop when the corrupt organization that is ISO is dead, or remedies the wrongs, and makes sure they cannot happen again!
You said "If you've ever read Joel's article about the file formats, you'd understand that there are some behaviors that simply can't be described other than to say "here is the piece of code that produces that output"."
LOL DON'T EVER SAY THIS AT A RATIONAL CONFERENCE. You will be laughed out of the building if someone doesn't kill you first.
Show me anything that can't be described by finite state diagrams/uml or Use Cases. Go ahead, I assure you it is not these file formats!
lies lies lies
Ok, lets pretend that p4p is benign...
Even if that is true, It was not market forces that brought it about.
Comcast could clearly see they were about to be regulated... It was the fear of legislation, not market forces that made them adapt.