They're just specialist memory allocations, however, since they have a particular purpose they can be optimised more than a few calls to malloc would be, and easier to use from an API point of view too.
Never said it was a good thing;) just that you don't need the entire DE.
Thankfully though, the only time I ever load anything other than GNOME libraries is when doing music work -- I load VST instruments in WINE; Rosegarden+Qtjackctl with Qt; Jack-rack, Audacity and the rest of my DE in GNOME.
Despite having only 256MB RAM and a slow hard drive, it still performs well. The thing I dislike most is the way they look so different, swapped buttons, different design guidelines and such.
I don't think that KDE and GNOME will ever combine, since they're totally different in design principle, but what I do think will happen is that all the core libraries and things (gecko, hal, jack, gstreamer, alsa...) will all have their DE specific interfaces implemented quite easily with minimal code duplication.
Well, if you don't want to watch it all compile, use a binary distribution. Or use something that just rebuilds what's changed, rather than rebuilding the whole lot, hell, even ccache. Not only that, you don't need to install a micro version update unless it's fixing something you need fixed.
Either way, to have any sort of button (or entire toolkit as Qt or GTK provide), something's going to have to be compiled/assembled somewhere along the line unless you're willing to write it all in machine code or something. Qt does take a long time to compile, but mostly because g++ is slow. For most developers though, runtime speed is far more important than compile time.
Well I think quite a lot of GNOME/GTK stuff uses the glib functions to allocate memory (including specialist functions like memory slices and memory chunks which malloc doesn't provide). Probably for abstraction/cross-OS-ness too.
I suppose they've rewritten the glib stuff to make it faster than it was before AND faster than malloc.
I think you don't understand the above poster: He is saying there is no absolute right and wrong.
You and I might think that it's wrong, but there are people who wouldn't think it's wrong. Unless you believe in a higher power, it is *impossible* for there to be an absolute right and wrong, and any right and wrong that we understand is from either social conditioning or inherited instincts.
In your case, someone, a complete anarchist for example, might have just said "Well he's not wrong, you should have protected yourself better."
Some people believe different things are right and wrong. If there was an absolute scale, you could say things like there is a 5/6 probability that the action was 35.23% wrong.
Also, isn't this more of a survey of the security flaws of the software running on the operating systems, rather than the operating systems themselves anyway? The summary linked article seems to imply that it's an OS flaw.
7-Zip isn't an OS vulnerability, nor is 4d web star.
Couldn't this be tilted against linux/unix/whatever due to the larger amount of crappy server/networking software available for it?
It sounds like a desperate attempt to sound 'cutting edge'...
But you must agree it perfectly describes their leveraging of the latest technologies, providing a quantum leap ahead to new paradigms? This new inspirational company methodology will certainly inspire solutions to speed up the information superhighway!
Not only does it work perfectly, standalone and as a plugin, it's better than the Windows Real* players. And, if you don't want to use the plugin, you could just view the html of the page and get the link to it, then open it in a standalone player... mplayer, realplayer, vlc.. etc.
The flaw is still present in XP, so you could say it's an "XP flaw";)
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Yeah, GNOME user here, but what I thought was a good idea when browsing that list was the file overwrite dialogs. Many times I've wanted to see a file preview before I overwrite it and have to browse to it manually. Though, it could look a tad better than it does on KDE....
I still couldn't use KDE however... I'm not very good with reading (my eyes jump with text, slowing me down) and I struggle badly with the Windows and KDE interfaces.
Yeah, I have seen this sort of stuff... and I have done the Windows customisation (and I occasionally use the version without IE too), but I find the whole package management type systems on Linux distros make life a lot easier with things like netboot and customising the install CDs.
What's easier: Install a distro marketed as "Linux for home users", or try to work your way through an uber-complex install process that's suited for every sort of system? Remember, every option the user doesn't want to see decreases usability...
Not only that, there are multiple versions of Windows with unclear purposes. Vista will have 7 versions, I think. Customising the Windows installer is pretty difficult too, moreso than any Linux distro installers I've customised... and the base WinXP install is a lot worse than most distros.
There is one distro that can be suited to a heck of a lot of systems: Gentoo. You can customise that for pretty much anything, but it doesn't make it easy to use.
Well, not sure about other distros, but Gentoo has been putting the x11 into the/usr/{lib,bin...} folders, and just has/usr/X11R6 as a symlink: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 2005-04-16 06:30/usr/X11R6 ->../usr
My ISP doesn't provide an E-mail address (to cut down admin costs apparently), and I live in an area with a small ISP holding a monopoly on broadband. They also block off listening on port 25 since it's used by spambots. Would I be locked out of performing edits unless I bought my own mailserver? Also, many ISP email services are below-par... And for the smaller ISPs, it's not uncommon to find security holes in their services. Not sure I fancy the idea of someone hijacking valid accounts...
Voice verification is an interesting idea though, it would stop me from being able to make immediate edits from my school, but that doesn't really matter. They block off our school's IP so much due to people taking advantage of the proxy to make edits without revealing their identity. IPv6 would be a nice way to help combat that, the admin could link their IP address with their username or something.
One thing they should introduce (if they haven't since I signed up with them) is one of them things where you enter letters that you read from an image, or hear read if you're blind. Then store the IP address you've signed up with in the account. This way you would feel a bit nervous about distributing your account details with a spambot, since it could be used to identify where the account creator comes from. Obviously if they hacked someone else's computer all bets are off. The only way to get around that would be with digital signatures and such....
If that-major-operating-system was more secure and didn't let users login as administrators, and by default required secure passwords if enabling remote access, spambots and hackers would be much less of a problem.
administrate
- verb administer; carry out administration.
Source: Compact Oxford English Dictionary
Okay so it was originally formed by an invalid back-formation of administrator/administration, but now it's apparently used enough to be considered a word by Oxford. After all, that's how English seems to work....
In my experience, Windows devs are pseudo-technical. They know a there's 1024 b's in a k, but not why.
Same goes with most people involved with Windows, admins and the like. Microsoft push this as an advantage though. It's probably the reason they usually struggle with Linux development... personally I've found most APIs on Linux to be far easier to develop with but Windows devs I know "just don't understand them".
This restart manager just seems like such a hack, doesn't it?
Can't they have it so that all non-essential processes and drivers are *completely* restartable/removable if not in use? (like sound, filesharing, all network stuff, most drivers, plug'n'play etc.) and so, as you say, the inode gets left in place after unlinking it. That way when anything files are updated it will just update to the newer file.
Though, I really can't see any reason from a userspace point of view why Microsoft can't leave an inode in place after unlinking... and from the kernel... well.. they've got the resources to fix that surely.
Maybe next they can fix the Windows System Update Services forcing users to stare at a progress bar while it updates Microsoft Office before they log in.... as I understand it, that's due to the file-locking isses... well that's what an MCSA told me.
I thought the problem was whether this view should be taught in science classes or not. Personally I believe it should be left for discussion in philosophy classes...
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They're just specialist memory allocations, however, since they have a particular purpose they can be optimised more than a few calls to malloc would be, and easier to use from an API point of view too.
Hopefully, MP3 support will soon not be an issue: http://www.fluendo.com/press/releases/PR-2005-05.h tml
Never said it was a good thing ;) just that you don't need the entire DE.
Thankfully though, the only time I ever load anything other than GNOME libraries is when doing music work -- I load VST instruments in WINE; Rosegarden+Qtjackctl with Qt; Jack-rack, Audacity and the rest of my DE in GNOME.
Despite having only 256MB RAM and a slow hard drive, it still performs well. The thing I dislike most is the way they look so different, swapped buttons, different design guidelines and such.
I don't think that KDE and GNOME will ever combine, since they're totally different in design principle, but what I do think will happen is that all the core libraries and things (gecko, hal, jack, gstreamer, alsa...) will all have their DE specific interfaces implemented quite easily with minimal code duplication.
Well, if you don't want to watch it all compile, use a binary distribution. Or use something that just rebuilds what's changed, rather than rebuilding the whole lot, hell, even ccache. Not only that, you don't need to install a micro version update unless it's fixing something you need fixed.
Either way, to have any sort of button (or entire toolkit as Qt or GTK provide), something's going to have to be compiled/assembled somewhere along the line unless you're willing to write it all in machine code or something. Qt does take a long time to compile, but mostly because g++ is slow. For most developers though, runtime speed is far more important than compile time.
Actually, to run a KDE app in gnome you just need Qt and kdelibs, not the entire DE.
Well I think quite a lot of GNOME/GTK stuff uses the glib functions to allocate memory (including specialist functions like memory slices and memory chunks which malloc doesn't provide). Probably for abstraction/cross-OS-ness too.
I suppose they've rewritten the glib stuff to make it faster than it was before AND faster than malloc.
I think you don't understand the above poster: He is saying there is no absolute right and wrong.
You and I might think that it's wrong, but there are people who wouldn't think it's wrong. Unless you believe in a higher power, it is *impossible* for there to be an absolute right and wrong, and any right and wrong that we understand is from either social conditioning or inherited instincts.
In your case, someone, a complete anarchist for example, might have just said "Well he's not wrong, you should have protected yourself better."
Some people believe different things are right and wrong. If there was an absolute scale, you could say things like there is a 5/6 probability that the action was 35.23% wrong.
Also, isn't this more of a survey of the security flaws of the software running on the operating systems, rather than the operating systems themselves anyway? The summary linked article seems to imply that it's an OS flaw.
7-Zip isn't an OS vulnerability, nor is 4d web star.
Couldn't this be tilted against linux/unix/whatever due to the larger amount of crappy server/networking software available for it?
It sounds like a desperate attempt to sound 'cutting edge'...
But you must agree it perfectly describes their leveraging of the latest technologies, providing a quantum leap ahead to new paradigms? This new inspirational company methodology will certainly inspire solutions to speed up the information superhighway!
Why must everyone keep saying that you can't use realplayer stuff (embedded or not) in Linux?
https://player.helixcommunity.org/
Not only does it work perfectly, standalone and as a plugin, it's better than the Windows Real* players.
And, if you don't want to use the plugin, you could just view the html of the page and get the link to it, then open it in a standalone player... mplayer, realplayer, vlc.. etc.
The flaw is still present in XP, so you could say it's an "XP flaw" ;)
Yeah, GNOME user here, but what I thought was a good idea when browsing that list was the file overwrite dialogs. Many times I've wanted to see a file preview before I overwrite it and have to browse to it manually. Though, it could look a tad better than it does on KDE....
I still couldn't use KDE however... I'm not very good with reading (my eyes jump with text, slowing me down) and I struggle badly with the Windows and KDE interfaces.
Yeah, I have seen this sort of stuff... and I have done the Windows customisation (and I occasionally use the version without IE too), but I find the whole package management type systems on Linux distros make life a lot easier with things like netboot and customising the install CDs.
What's easier: Install a distro marketed as "Linux for home users", or try to work your way through an uber-complex install process that's suited for every sort of system? Remember, every option the user doesn't want to see decreases usability...
Not only that, there are multiple versions of Windows with unclear purposes. Vista will have 7 versions, I think. Customising the Windows installer is pretty difficult too, moreso than any Linux distro installers I've customised... and the base WinXP install is a lot worse than most distros.
There is one distro that can be suited to a heck of a lot of systems: Gentoo. You can customise that for pretty much anything, but it doesn't make it easy to use.
Richard Stallman
*ducks*
I'd love an AiW for my box... the ATI Linux support just isn't there yet.
Well, not sure about other distros, but Gentoo has been putting the x11 into the /usr/{lib,bin...} folders, and just has /usr/X11R6 as a symlink: /usr/X11R6 -> ../usr
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 2005-04-16 06:30
My ISP doesn't provide an E-mail address (to cut down admin costs apparently), and I live in an area with a small ISP holding a monopoly on broadband. They also block off listening on port 25 since it's used by spambots. Would I be locked out of performing edits unless I bought my own mailserver? Also, many ISP email services are below-par... And for the smaller ISPs, it's not uncommon to find security holes in their services. Not sure I fancy the idea of someone hijacking valid accounts...
Voice verification is an interesting idea though, it would stop me from being able to make immediate edits from my school, but that doesn't really matter. They block off our school's IP so much due to people taking advantage of the proxy to make edits without revealing their identity. IPv6 would be a nice way to help combat that, the admin could link their IP address with their username or something.
One thing they should introduce (if they haven't since I signed up with them) is one of them things where you enter letters that you read from an image, or hear read if you're blind. Then store the IP address you've signed up with in the account. This way you would feel a bit nervous about distributing your account details with a spambot, since it could be used to identify where the account creator comes from. Obviously if they hacked someone else's computer all bets are off. The only way to get around that would be with digital signatures and such....
If that-major-operating-system was more secure and didn't let users login as administrators, and by default required secure passwords if enabling remote access, spambots and hackers would be much less of a problem.
Yes. They crash my system when I quit X, I'm afraid. It's not an uncommon problem either... check the rage3d forums on it.
administrate
- verb administer; carry out administration.
Source: Compact Oxford English Dictionary
Okay so it was originally formed by an invalid back-formation of administrator/administration, but now it's apparently used enough to be considered a word by Oxford. After all, that's how English seems to work....
I love the Nvidia drivers are better than ATI drivers myth.
Myth? Guess you've never used their Linux drivers then...
In my experience, Windows devs are pseudo-technical. They know a there's 1024 b's in a k, but not why.
Same goes with most people involved with Windows, admins and the like. Microsoft push this as an advantage though. It's probably the reason they usually struggle with Linux development... personally I've found most APIs on Linux to be far easier to develop with but Windows devs I know "just don't understand them".
This restart manager just seems like such a hack, doesn't it?
Can't they have it so that all non-essential processes and drivers are *completely* restartable/removable if not in use? (like sound, filesharing, all network stuff, most drivers, plug'n'play etc.) and so, as you say, the inode gets left in place after unlinking it. That way when anything files are updated it will just update to the newer file.
Though, I really can't see any reason from a userspace point of view why Microsoft can't leave an inode in place after unlinking... and from the kernel... well.. they've got the resources to fix that surely.
Maybe next they can fix the Windows System Update Services forcing users to stare at a progress bar while it updates Microsoft Office before they log in.... as I understand it, that's due to the file-locking isses... well that's what an MCSA told me.
I thought the problem was whether this view should be taught in science classes or not. Personally I believe it should be left for discussion in philosophy classes...