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Intel's New Slogan Clarified

OctoberSky writes "We already knew that Intel was changing its slogan. The new tagline will be 'Leap Ahead', replacing the 10 year old 'Intel Inside'. The move was initially reported here on Slashdot yesterday. The official announcement includes the slogan's replacement." From the article: "Intel shares, up 7.2 percent this year, fell 37 cents to $25.07 yesterday in Nasdaq Stock Market composite trading. The change in Intel's brand is the first step in a $2.5 billion marketing campaign, BusinessWeek reported earlier, without making clear where it got the information. Intel spokesman Bill Calder declined to comment on the number. "

279 comments

  1. Leap Ahead? by mnmn · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Hmm, so hard to crack jokes at Leap Ahead. Maybe they made that with slashdot crowd in mind...

    Sounds like some Chinese government plan. Maybe theyre just trying to leap eastwards to cut costs.

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  2. Cracks are starting to show by IntelliAdmin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Obviously they are still a powerhouse in processors, but still one must wonder how they could have lost the number 1 position to AMD when it comes to 64 bit processors. A company only makes moves like this when they feel they need to make a change.

    1. Re:Cracks are starting to show by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      64-bit processors huh? Cause AMD has something to compete with the Itanium series? Nope. Oh yeah, lets call them 64-bit processors because have an aribtrary amount of a 64-bit instruction set and a 64-bit memory address space. How exciting. Maybe intel didn't invest too heavily in x64 because there's no real demand for it, or maybe its just because it was all AMD's marketing hype.

    2. Re:Cracks are starting to show by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny
      Cause AMD has something to compete with the Itanium series?

      No, AMD has is not currently offering any 5-year late, underperforming, multibillion dollar boondoggle, total market failure products at this time.

    3. Re:Cracks are starting to show by Trejkaz · · Score: 1

      Indeed. I read this as them admitting that AMD is ahead of them again and that they want to "leap ahead" to get back ahead again.

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    4. Re:Cracks are starting to show by NutscrapeSucks · · Score: 1

      one must wonder how they could have lost the number 1 position to AMD when it comes to 64 bit processors.

      Intel outsells AMD five to one in 64-bit chips.

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    5. Re:Cracks are starting to show by Halfbaked+Plan · · Score: 1

      Yes, but those few AMD parts outrun the Intel parts. Like the highly successful Alpha parts did in their time.

      Don't you see? There's a pattern here.

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    6. Re:Cracks are starting to show by kimvette · · Score: 1

      Score is only 1, funny? Come on, that AC post was worth more than a 1.

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    7. Re:Cracks are starting to show by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      But alphas couldn't run the exact same software. No recompiles or code changes are necessary to make a program operate correctly on an AMD chip as opposed to an Intel Chip.

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    8. Re:Cracks are starting to show by Halfbaked+Plan · · Score: 1

      Are you telling me the Itanium instruction set and whatever AMD is calling their 64 bit architecture this week's instruction set are identical? I thought there were specific differences where the 64 bit features come to play.

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  3. I find it remarcable that there was NO SLOGAN by crovira · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The Bloomberg piece talks about it but doesn't show it.

    That is lousy reporting.

    Somebody was getting paid by the word when a picture would have done a much better job of it.

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    1. Re:I find it remarcable that there was NO SLOGAN by Andrewkov · · Score: 1

      Intel spent millions developing this new slogan .. and good thing they did, or it might have sucked.

  4. Re:Leap Ahead? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    ROFL. I can see it now: "The Great Leap Ahead" campaign. All Intel marketing people will be required to journey into the countryside to spread the news of the Revolution, and volunteer for work on the glorious hydroelectric dam projects needed to power all those P4 chips.

  5. Re:Leap Ahead? by Bananatree3 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Well, Mao did try The Great Leap Forward, but as expected, it was a great step backward.

  6. Uh-oh... by Stormwatch · · Score: 4, Informative
    1. Re:Uh-oh... by mattkime · · Score: 1

      let me get this straight - you think "Leap Ahead" is refering to China?

      How should AMD respond? "At Least We're Not Communists"

      ???

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    2. Re:Uh-oh... by Pyrion · · Score: 1

      No, the last thing AMD needs to do is waste money and time pointlessly redefining itself.

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    3. Re:Uh-oh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly, I'll rather pay for more processor power then more (G$ 2.5!) marketing.

    4. Re:Uh-oh... by ajs · · Score: 1

      Ignorning the connotations from the Chinese side of the world (since most Intel consumer's won't recognize the connection), I'd like to point out that right now, when people think "leap ahead" and "CPU" they don't think of Intel. Interesting choice on their part, and makes me wonder if it will backfire.

      It does make me think, though. Did Apple set as a condition of using Intel processors that they would not have that cheesy logo—long associated with the grey box phenomenon—to grace the outside of their systems once they converted to Intel processors?

  7. Re:Leap Ahead? by Gabest · · Score: 1, Funny

    Should have been "Leap second ahead". Happy new year!

  8. Leap ahead by baylanger · · Score: 0

    Ahead of what?

    I always bought Intel CPUs. The last one is a P4 3Ghz bought 2 years ago -- and that was the last one ever, or until they "leap ahead AMD".

    1. Re:Leap Ahead by iceanfire · · Score: 1

      centrino seems to be doing pretty damn good and when you think about it.

    2. Re:Leap Ahead by iceanfire · · Score: 1

      *and when you think about it, notebooks are the future.

    3. Re:Leap Ahead by trelanexiph · · Score: 1

      Other than being a marketing coup (which costs money running the marketing) the Centrino is outsold in the retail market by the AMD Sempron based simply on cost (you can't get a centrino in the $500-700 price point). Businesses buy it up in droves but as Dell adopts AMD (I'd love to see them pick up Via too), we'll see what happens.

    4. Re:Leap Ahead by krunk4ever · · Score: 1

      Well, it depends if it the slogan was intended for Intel or the user. imo, I think they are referring to those who use their products can 'leap ahead' of their competitors, and not them leaping ahead.

    5. Re:Leap Ahead by -kertrats- · · Score: 4, Funny

      I also wonder how much the new slogan cost, per word.

      Well, lets see...we have 2.5 billion, and two words, so...carry the 1...uh...

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    6. Re:Leap Ahead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      references?

    7. Re:Leap Ahead by Com2Kid · · Score: 1
      Other than being a marketing coup (which costs money running the marketing) the Centrino is outsold in the retail market by the AMD Sempron based simply on cost


      Maybe in the low margin market, but in general, as much as I love AMD, Pentium M chips offer more scalablility (from ultra mobile 1.2GHz chips, to speeding 2.12GHz chips) from a pure performance point of view.

      That and all Centrino really means is that you have an Intel MoBo, AND an Intel Wireless device, you can get a laptop that is identical to a "Centrino" model except for having a non-Intel wifi card in it, that alone will cause it to lose the Centrino mark.

      But the Pentium M does rock. :)


      (you can't get a centrino in the $500-700 price point).


      You can't get a real MOBILE laptop at the $500-$700 price point. I was stupid and bought one of those budget laptops as my first laptop, I ended up with a huge honking machine that is being used as a nice linux desktop box. Sure it has an LCD screen (with a highly limited viewing angle), but at over 7Lbs, it is a desktop!

      Laptops, 4.5LB or under.

      If OEMs are stupid enough to back themselves into yet another low margin product line, then fine, they can go ahead and be that stupid.
    8. Re:Leap Ahead by basic70 · · Score: 1

      According to my Intel PC, the cost is 1.24999999984 per word.

    9. Re:Leap Ahead by commodoresloat · · Score: 1
      Isn't naming the strategy "Leap Ahead" a tacit admission that they are in fact, across the board behind?

      Actually, they want to really go with this whole "leaping" metaphor. They are planning to roll out a new game kind of like Twister with a giant mat you put on the floor with all these conclusions written on them; the game will be called "Leap to Conclusions"...

    10. Re:Leap Ahead by ebooborg · · Score: 0

      went to hire someone capable of making better processors
      at intel here in ireland they have some of the smartest engineers and techicians

      they are not the problem its the management and marketing people who are asleep at the wheel while AMD bumps them in the rear

    11. Re:Leap Ahead by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      You would think, in a market with basically two players and HORDES of media coverage, much of which is benchmark crazy, you could just build a better product and skip the advertising. Guess not. Something's broken.

    12. Re:Leap Ahead by dogwelder99 · · Score: 1
      That is a little weird... almost sounds like Intel's so preoccupied with its losing race against AMD they stuffed it into the slogan itself. Does the average PC user really want an emblem stuck on their machine reminding them they're part of some competition or technogeek arms race? They already paid for the damn thing, let em enjoy their email and porn.

      What if other companies put their corporate issues right there in the customer's face?

      • Microsoft: Now 86% DOJ approved!
      • Burger King: Have it your way, or at least not THEIR way
      • Sony: Our CDs give you great music... and so much more!
    13. Re:Leap Ahead by jonnythan · · Score: 1

      $700 gets you a 5-pound Compaq that's 1.3" thick and has a 14" widescreen.

    14. Re:Leap Ahead by turgid · · Score: 1

      I also have to note that they might be better off if that $2.5 billion went to hire someone capable of making better processors.

      I suspect, with intel, as with many other old, fat, complacent mega-corporations, that it is not the staffers who can't design great processors, but rather it's the PHBs and marketeers who tell them what stupid features to build at the expense of properly engineered solutions.

  9. Leap Frog? by legality · · Score: 1, Funny

    Is it just me or does the new phrase make you all think of the educational toys I buy for my three year old?

    1. Re:Leap Frog? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      leap frog, and Leap Ahead! (www.smartkidssoftware.com)

      What about KanDoo the frog ass wipes. (Great spelling too)

  10. Re:Leap ahead? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    no

  11. your late by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    too bad i lept ahead last summer when i got my amd 4400+. In benchmarks its still ahead of intels next dual core line...

  12. Re:Leap Ahead? by ozmanjusri · · Score: 4, Informative

    Sounds like some Chinese government plan.

    I suspect they'd prefer to achieve something more than the other Great Leap Forward http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Leap_Forward. I don't think it'll be all that impervious to Slashdot jokes either.

    Intel's not having a good time right now, and sloganeering instead of engineering won't fix that.

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  13. Great Leap Forward by Devil's+BSD · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Maybe they finally realize they've fallen behind AMD and need to "Leap Ahead"... This sort of sounds like how the Communist party in China had the Great Leap Forward program to modernize China after they realized China was way behind the rest of the world.

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    1. Re:Great Leap Forward by Halfbaked+Plan · · Score: 1

      China didn't 'realize' they were behind. The Party knew that all along. The Great Leap Forward was just their clone of a Leninist rapid-industrialization blitz, a copy of the Russian bloodbath from earlier in the century.

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  14. Top 10 Rejected Intel taglines? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    10. We keep your house warm

    9. Twice the price for half the performance

    continue...

    1. Re:Top 10 Rejected Intel taglines? by mister_llah · · Score: 2, Funny

      8. Intel: Where Unfair Business Practices Meet Unfair Prices

      7. Intel: Hey, At Least We Aren't Cyrix ... next!

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    2. Re:Top 10 Rejected Intel taglines? by ScaryFroMan · · Score: 0

      6: Intel: We're not terrorists. *Wink Wink* *Nudge Nudge*

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    3. Re:Top 10 Rejected Intel taglines? by DavidHOzAu · · Score: 4, Funny

      5. All Your Transistor Base Are Belong To Us.

    4. Re:Top 10 Rejected Intel taglines? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      4. Add water for a complete steamroom solution!
      3. Think fast.TM And while you're at it, please teach our processes how to as well.

    5. Re:Top 10 Rejected Intel taglines? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      2. Yesterday's technology - tomorrow!

    6. Re:Top 10 Rejected Intel taglines? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where did you want to go yesterday?

    7. Re:Top 10 Rejected Intel taglines? by SlashdotMeNow · · Score: 5, Funny

      1. Apple Outside

    8. Re:Top 10 Rejected Intel taglines? by RealityMogul · · Score: 2, Funny

      9. Twice the price for half the performance

      Typical. Those Intel slackers can't think up their own taglines so they just steal Oracle's.

    9. Re:Top 10 Rejected Intel taglines? by lasindi · · Score: 1, Insightful

      10. We keep your house warm

      Although that gave me a chuckle, I can't say I agree with it. The only CPU I have had overheat on me was an AMD Athlon XP 3200, and a large reason for why AMD has trouble getting into the laptop market is that it hasn't invested as much in bringing its CPU temperatures down.

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    10. Re:Top 10 Rejected Intel taglines? by heinousjay · · Score: 1

      Don't let facts get in the way of a good old fashioned hatefest directed at success.

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    11. Re:Top 10 Rejected Intel taglines? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      my p4 cpu (non overlocked) is able to keep my library nice and toasty, (around 78-80, more when rendering video. I have a hard time keeping people from wandering in and sitting down for a while. In summer though, its another matter. you open up the sides of the case, stick a box fan next to it and vent it out the door.

      So no, Intel does quite literaly heat my house.

    12. Re:Top 10 Rejected Intel taglines? by kailoran · · Score: 2, Funny

      0. Our CPUs can count to 10, honest!

    13. Re:Top 10 Rejected Intel taglines? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      -1: Superiority through the threatening of motherboard manufacturers. Wait, shit, that didn't work out for us. Help!

    14. Re:Top 10 Rejected Intel taglines? by Halfbaked+Plan · · Score: 1

      When you 'open up the sides of the case' you entirely undermine the designed airflow of the case, and it's easy to make critical parts of the system hotter. Perhaps you have your cables routed poorly and are blocking airflow. Or perhaps you're just 'showing off' by cracking that case to demonstrate you're a real tech wiz. ("He knows how to hold a phillips screwdriver. He must be a real Computer Wiz")

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    15. Re:Top 10 Rejected Intel taglines? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      -2: Why stop at zero?

    16. Re:Top 10 Rejected Intel taglines? by dangitman · · Score: 1

      -3: Have we reached the event horizon yet? Have we reached the event horizon yet? Have we reached the event horizon yet?

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    17. Re:Top 10 Rejected Intel taglines? by OldManAndTheC++ · · Score: 2, Funny

      8. "Intel. It's whats for dinner" - AMD

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    18. Re:Top 10 Rejected Intel taglines? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      0.9999999999999999999. Now with a brand new FPU!

    19. Re:Top 10 Rejected Intel taglines? by Dun+Malg · · Score: 1
      When you 'open up the sides of the case' you entirely undermine the designed airflow of the case, and it's easy to make critical parts of the system hotter. Perhaps you have your cables routed poorly and are blocking airflow.

      Or perhaps he, like most of use, has the usual chinese $10 stamped sheet metal computer case that is engineered more for ease of manufacture than performance, and on hot days the heat output of a P4 is too much for those tiny fans. If you aim a box fan at the exposed motherboard, the "designed airflow" is essentially moot because you're pushing 10x the CFM. You see, carefully planned airflow is only necessary when the fans moving the air are small.

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    20. Re:Top 10 Rejected Intel taglines? by sjames · · Score: 1

      When you 'open up the sides of the case' you entirely undermine the designed airflow of the case, and it's easy to make critical parts of the system hotter.

      True if that's ALL you do. However, if the box fan is well placed, it WILL result in a lot more airflow than the case fans could ever provide. As long as you make sure that extra airflow goes through the heatsinks it's a big win. However, if you just point the fan at the MB and create a little isolated bubble around the CPUs, you'll lose.

    21. Re:Top 10 Rejected Intel taglines? by sjames · · Score: 1

      The Athlon XP was yesterday's news the day before yesterday. Where have you been? Opteron looks a LOT better in terms of heat/MIPS. It's just as fair for me to say that my old Xt with V20 processor didn't have a heatsink at all.

    22. Re:Top 10 Rejected Intel taglines? by 26242 · · Score: 0

      Haha. Loved that one :) Reminds me of Windows: Where do you want to go today? Mac: Where do you want to be tomorrow? Linux: Are you coming or what?!

    23. Re:Top 10 Rejected Intel taglines? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      -4.000000000000091: Whoops, missed it!

    24. Re:Top 10 Rejected Intel taglines? by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      Tomorrow's technology offline today!

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    25. Re:Top 10 Rejected Intel taglines? by imstanny · · Score: 1

      1a. (Tagline appears in front of the Blue Man Group) 'Don't hold your breath.'

    26. Re:Top 10 Rejected Intel taglines? by lasindi · · Score: 1

      The Athlon XP was yesterday's news the day before yesterday. Where have you been? Opteron looks a LOT better in terms of heat/MIPS.

      Perhaps AMD will get better in terms of heat in the future; I was merely commenting on what I'm currently using. Don't get me wrong; I love AMD (in fact, I only have one (running) Intel CPU out of about half a dozen processors in my house). I'd also remark that the Athlon XP, while not at all cutting edge anymore, is more representative of what most people today are running (in fact, mine is still probably a little bit above average). The general public won't be using 64 bit processors for a while still; so although the Athlon XP isn't "today's news," it's really because the Athlon XP has moved from the papers into people's computers.

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    27. Re:Top 10 Rejected Intel taglines? by sjames · · Score: 1

      I can buy that there are Athlons still in use, but if we're looking at who has the technical lead today, or what to buy next, it's not worth considering Athlon XP's heat at all. In fact, currently, AMD is a little COOLER for the same computing power at the high end.

  15. Leap Ahead by trelanexiph · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Isn't naming the strategy "Leap Ahead" a tacit admission that they are in fact, across the board behind? They are losing market share in every major sector. CPU's, Memory, Networking. I predict it will have to be a big leap, or we're going to see Intel face real competition. I also have to note that they might be better off if that $2.5 billion went to hire someone capable of making better processors. I also wonder how much the new slogan cost, per word.

  16. Something unique... by DavidHOzAu · · Score: 1

    ``That they're going to focus on `Leap Ahead' makes me think about the technology,'' said Freedman. ``Not, `buy me because I'm inside,' but `buy me because I'm doing something unique.''' ...like x86 linux?

    wait...

  17. Narrowly beat out: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    More of the same.

  18. That's not impressive. I suggest an alternative. by mister_llah · · Score: 5, Funny

    Leap Ahead? ...

    That is bloody disappointing, honestly. It sounds like a desperate attempt to sound 'cutting edge'...

    They should've stuck with something like:
    Intel: The processor that won't explode and kill you ... it would make no subliminal bold claims about their performance while simultaneously suggesting their competitors will explode and kill you... without directly saying it.

    GENIUS!

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  19. I have such a new computer case by baylanger · · Score: 1, Funny

    It's written on my case: Intel Leap Ahead and when I look INSIDE, I see a AMD CPU!

  20. look by Evilhomer2300 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Look before you Leap Intel. AMD isn't leaping, they are starting to sprint past you. While your dancing like a schoolgirl.

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  21. Re:Leap Ahead? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hmm, so hard to crack jokes at Leap Ahead. Maybe they made that with slashdot crowd in mind...

    Indeed. We slashdotters have always enjoy a good challenge. :)

  22. In a way by davmoo · · Score: 1

    Its kind of amusing to hear all these comments on Intel's decline. I've been hearing predictions of Intel's decline and impending doom as long as I've been hearing the same comments about Microsoft and IBM.

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    1. Re:In a way by Melfina · · Score: 1

      Indeed... But in 20+ years when Intel, Microsoft, and IBM are all gone-ish everyone can look back and go "I told ya so!".

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    2. Re:In a way by ImaNihilist · · Score: 1

      People are just silly. They act like AMD is the holy grail. There is only a single modern chipset for the entire AMD line-up that even passes for decent, and that the nForce Pro for Socket-940. Everything else for Socket-754 and Socket-939 is absolute garabage ATM.

      What good is your Athlon X2 4800+ if you have to match it with some piece of crap nForce 4 based motherboard?

    3. Re:In a way by Jonny_eh · · Score: 1

      And your point is? What does one have to do with the other? (Except that IBM PCs built with Intel processors run MS OSes).

    4. Re:In a way by davmoo · · Score: 1

      That's what they said about IBM...35 years ago.

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    5. Re:In a way by ilovepolymorphism · · Score: 1

      Must be getting kinda close now then... :-D

    6. Re:In a way by Devistater · · Score: 1

      IBM changed the way they did business. They expanded and went into other sectors. They left that silly PS/2 proprietary stuff behind. They got out of the PC business just recently. The loss of sales from mainframes didn't kill them. They ADAPTED.

      Now you have intel. The one who just got beat for a couple months in a row at desktop retail sales. (september was one of the months). Its more than AMD is on the incline than intel is declining... so far. Intel still owns the laptop market and has best CPU line there, and thats a very important and growing market. The question is, why do they keep shooting themselves in the foot in desktop market? Recalls on cpus, motherboards, products canceled, no viable 64 bit strategy (I include itanium in this). And they surely are going to pay millions for this change, to "leap ahead"? How sucky is that logo? What, are intel owners no longer proud that they have "intel inside"? I've seen so many case badges with twists on that logo, people like the intel inside logo. And now, leap ahead. ahahahahahhahah.

  23. Leap ahead... by kars · · Score: 1

    Backward user.

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    1. Re:Leap ahead... by Mars2020 · · Score: 1

      They could combine it with M$ new logo: "Leap ahead" to the "blue screen of death".

  24. Re:Leap Ahead? by gQuigs · · Score: 4, Funny

    Leap Ahead, Fall Back.

  25. Re:Leap Ahead? by arth1 · · Score: 5, Funny
    Hmm, so hard to crack jokes at Leap Ahead.


    A few anagrams:

    A LEAD HEAP
    LA PEAHEAD
    LA APEHEAD
    PLEA AHEAD


    I'm sure others can do better...

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  26. how about the logo? by heov · · Score: 1

    anyone got a link to a pic of the logo?

    1. Re:how about the logo? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    2. Re:how about the logo? by FlopEJoe · · Score: 1

      And without the words: intel

  27. Alternatives to Intel and AMD? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I used Intel almost from the start, then became an AMD fanboy back in 2000 when they beat Intel to the 1GHz at the turn of the millenia. Recently I've been into VIA, my last few machines have been VIA Mini ITX (although I realise they are mostly 'Intel' architectures inside). Very recently I've been studying Transmeta, since they proposed a Mini ITX board, although this seems to be vapourware to me, does anybody know anywhere I can actually BUY ONE? But what I want to ask is, does anybody have any good info on other alternative processors that happily run Linux. The 300-500MHz range is just fine for me, I want ultra low power though because electricity is a problem. I want to not support the big consumer corporations so is there any such thing as an Open Source hardware company that make processors and motherboards?

    1. Re:Alternatives to Intel and AMD? by uop · · Score: 2, Informative

      In the x86 Arena, you might want to check out AMD's Geode processors. These are lame ducks when it comes to performance but they are sufficient for powering simple devices (e.g. PIC).
      If you're not tied to x86 then you could definitely jump the ARM or Power wagons.

    2. Re:Alternatives to Intel and AMD? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What exactly does Open Source Hardware company mean? Isn't Open source about having OPEN SOURCE CODE?

      Open source is such a buzword it's being used inappropriately in some cases

    3. Re:Alternatives to Intel and AMD? by SpinJaunt · · Score: 2, Informative

      The Geode NX is based on old Athlon tech so performance should atleast be above par for low powered devices in the 6-14 watt market, like VIA's C3 or Intel's PII. Obviously, Geodes do not compare to the likes of ULV Pentium M and Turion.

      Although finding a Geode NX is another story, but to put some limelight on prices, I have seen a Geode NX + Mobo for the same price of a Sempron here in the UK.

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      /. is good for you.
    4. Re:Alternatives to Intel and AMD? by Crackez · · Score: 1

      I have a neat little toy at work. It is an HP thin client. It came with only 128MB of RAM in it, but I upgraded that to 256, and it has a Transmeta Crusoe processor in it, clocked at 733MHz I believe. It's been along time since I dug it out to play with it. It has a 32MB Flash drive in it, so it's rather limited in how much you can cram onto it, but it netboots Linux just fine. If I could find the right cable, I could hook up a laptop harddrive to it I think. It has the same pin configuration as a laptop drive at least.

      So, 733MHz, 256MB DDR, 32MB Flash, 10/100 Ethernet, all in a neat little package. This one came with WinCE on it. Maybe ebay has them? Some of them come with linux preinstalled, so maybe you'll get lucky and find one with linux on it already.

  28. Re:Leap Ahead? by DavidHOzAu · · Score: 1

    I think you are referring to the inbuilt features of this device.

  29. concise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    i always thought intel inside was a great way to put it, very concise, and it appealed to me.

    1. Re:concise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah, undoubtably true at least

  30. Eh... Uhm... by corvus_corax_by · · Score: 1

    They will build frog farms, not CPUs now, right?

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  31. Alternate slogans? by plover · · Score: 4, Funny
    Rather than just anagrams, how about twists?

    Leap ahead to AMD.
    Lame ahead.
    Look at AMD before you leap ahead?
    Or, my favorite: "So what if we're not AMD? We got APPLE, bitch!"

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    1. Re:Alternate slogans? by Mars2020 · · Score: 1

      Premonitory: Flop Ahead A touch of geekness: FLOP Ahead Subliminal message: Leap Ahead....DIE AMD BITCH, DIIIIIIIIIEE! New AMD Slogan: Leap Ahead Intel Inside....Choose AMD!

    2. Re:Alternate slogans? by MojoStan · · Score: 1
      "So what if we're not AMD? We got APPLE, bitch!"

      Also, Intel is the Apple CORE.

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  32. Hm. by n.e.watson · · Score: 1

    http://www.leapfrog.com/ All the power of a LeapPad Learning System.

  33. Marketing first, R&D second.. by kestasjk · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A better use for the money would be R&D. The reason AMD's gaining traction isn't because it's winning on the marketing front, it's because they've got a better processing power to cost ratio.


    AMD's Athlon 64 X2 4800+ is roughly equal in performance to Intel's latest Pentium Extreme Edition 955. The AMD 4800+ costs ~USD$495, and Intel's 955 costs ~USD$995! That extra money clearly isn't going into R&D, so where could it be going? Marketing of course..

    No-one who's aware of AMD's offerings are going to pay an extra USD$500 for a 'Leap ahead' sticker, and as the mass market becomes aware of AMD Intel's marketing campaigns will only get less and less effective..


    Intel went the wrong direction chasing 10GHz because of the marketing dept, and apparently no lessons have been learnt.. They need to take an about face and stop letting the marketing team lead, or a once great company is going to go to shit.

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    1. Re:Marketing first, R&D second.. by ImaNihilist · · Score: 1

      You forgot something though. There isn't a good chipset for the AMD Athlon 64 X2.

    2. Re:Marketing first, R&D second.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Yeah, there is. nForce4 - so good, even Intel wanted a piece of it.

    3. Re:Marketing first, R&D second.. by ImaNihilist · · Score: 1

      nForce 4 is total crap.

  34. Heat ahead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They should start classifying their processors by temperature rating, that would put them ahead of AMD alright.

  35. Re:Leap Ahead? by DavidHOzAu · · Score: 1

    Hmm, so hard to crack jokes at Leap Ahead. Maybe they made that with slashdot crowd in mind... In Korea, only old people crack jokes at Leap Ahead.

  36. Cracks, indeed... by mister_llah · · Score: 1

    As you say, "a company only makes moves like this when they feel they need to make a change" ...

    This is indeed, true, and the slogan changing is generally done when the company doesn't really know what to do to fix itself... I see it as the equivelant of throwing up your hands in confusion.

    Perhaps it is meant to be internally motivational (that is, to its employees) as much as it is supposed to be (ha) externally inspiring...

    Either way, it should be interesting (especially as these anti-trust lawsuits pan out)

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  37. AMD Fanboy Reality Distortion by Animaniac · · Score: 5, Informative

    Disclaimer: I don't particularly care if AMD or Intel has the best technology. I know Slashdot is all about going with the groupthink, but what is with all these AMD fanboys and their awful wordplay on "Leap Ahead"? Have any of you even read one word about what this new marketing campaign is designed to announce and promote? Read up on the technology behind Intel's 2006 chips, namely Yonah, Merom and Conroe. The facts don't lie. By perofrmance per watt and even by absolute performance, despite sticking with 32-bit technology, Intel is going to trounce AMD in 2006 in both mobile, desktop, and server markets. Intel is announcing completely redesigned processors, and essentally all AMD is going to do is push the clockrate of their current designs. Here are some links to back up these claims. http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx? i=2627 http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx? i=2648 http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=28602 http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=28624

    1. Re:AMD Fanboy Reality Distortion by Skowronek · · Score: 1

      This is not *despite*. You can get better performance per watt with a 32-bit datapath than with a 64-bit one, isn't it obvious?

    2. Re:AMD Fanboy Reality Distortion by kestasjk · · Score: 1

      What you're saying is we shouldn't prefer AMD's offerings because Intel say that next year they'll come out with great new products?

      IIRC late 2004 Intel weren't saying "Dear stockholders: In 2005 we plan to consistently release comparatively poor products."; they were telling us much of the same revolutionary breakthrough NetBurst roadmap bullshit they're telling us again now.

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    3. Re:AMD Fanboy Reality Distortion by Jarlsberg · · Score: 1
      Yes, well, but you sound a bit like an Intel fanboy, and a desperate one at that. Sure, Intel is going to make new processors next year, but the proof is in the pudding. Let's wait and see if they really manage to trounce AMD, or whether they'll be overly noisy and not that much better than their last gen.

      Personally, I use AMD whenever I can - Intel just can't (or rather, won't) beat the price/performance of AMD procs.

    4. Re:AMD Fanboy Reality Distortion by RzUpAnmsCwrds · · Score: 4, Informative

      Disclaimer: I don't particularly care if AMD or Intel has the best technology. I know Slashdot is all about going with the groupthink, but what is with all these AMD fanboys and their awful wordplay on "Leap Ahead"? Have any of you even read one word about what this new marketing campaign is designed to announce and promote? Read up on the technology behind Intel's 2006 chips, namely Yonah, Merom and Conroe. The facts don't lie. By perofrmance per watt and even by absolute performance, despite sticking with 32-bit technology, Intel is going to trounce AMD in 2006 in both mobile, desktop, and server markets.

      That's not by any means a certainty. While I have personally used Intel's "Next Generation Microarchitecture", let me tell you - Athlon 64 F stepping is no slouch and it is going to ramp very fast. Intel's NGA is so impressive because Prescott was such a flop.

      Moreover, there are no facts that can or cannot lie. Intel has - as of yet - shipped nothing but a few engineering samples. When we see real parts with real availablility, maybe we can compare. But right now all the Intel fanboys can do is compare Intel's as-of-yet unreleased parts to AMD parts that are already shipping. And even then, Intel isn't looking so great - 5% faster than 6-month-old AMD64 parts isn't going to be impressive.

      Intel is announcing completely redesigned processors, and essentally all AMD is going to do is push the clockrate of their current designs. Here are some links to back up these claims.

      F stepping introduces major optimizations, DDR2 support, and faster HT. AMD will ship 65nm parts in 2006, which will lower power usage. AMD64 scales extremely well - with DDR2, faster HT, 65nm, and higher clocks, F stepping will have no problem remaining compeitive with inte's NGA.

    5. Re:AMD Fanboy Reality Distortion by Pyrion · · Score: 1
      Have any of you even read one word about what this new marketing campaign is designed to announce and promote?

      Two words are all that's necessary.

      Marketing campaign.

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    6. Re:AMD Fanboy Reality Distortion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Be honest -- you only like AMD because its a profit-free operation, providing you with welfare chips.

      If it wasn't for the US Govenment preventing Intel from practicing Natural Market Capitalism, AMD would have been bankrupt years ago. AMD Processors == Communism at its finest.

    7. Re:AMD Fanboy Reality Distortion by JamesTRexx · · Score: 1

      It doesn't matter what the campaign is supposed to promote, the slogan by itself should inspire and attract interest. Leap ahead doesn't do anything, it's boring. Maybe Intel will come up with something great next year, but it sure doesn't reflect on the slogan.

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    8. Re:AMD Fanboy Reality Distortion by jelle · · Score: 1

      Bullshit. They made a profit last quarter, and will make a bigger profit in Q4.

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    9. Re:AMD Fanboy Reality Distortion by toddestan · · Score: 1

      I know Slashdot is all about going with the groupthink, but what is with all these AMD fanboys and their awful wordplay on "Leap Ahead"?

      What? Just because we make fun of a marketing slogan makes us AMD fanboys? Maybe we are all just making fun of it because it's just plain stupid?

    10. Re:AMD Fanboy Reality Distortion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did it ever occur to you that AMD is keeping quiet about their stuff so that Intel can shoot all their bullets and then have no more tricks left when it's AMD's turn to counter?

      What you're talking about are mostly paper processors. When the silicon hits the shelves, then we'll see who's the best.

    11. Re:AMD Fanboy Reality Distortion by crimson30 · · Score: 1

      If it wasn't for the US Govenment preventing Intel from practicing Natural Market Capitalism, AMD would have been bankrupt years ago. AMD Processors == Communism at its finest.

      Regulated capitalism is not communism. And, likely against your intentions, you make a good point against unregulated capitalism.

  38. Price correction by kestasjk · · Score: 2, Informative
    Oops I got the prices wrong there, here are the right prices:

    Pentium Processor Extreme 955

    Price: $1,112.37 - $1,393.49

    AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ 2.4GHz, Toledo, Dual-Core, 2x1MB L2 Cache, Socket 939, 64-bit Processor

    Price: $780.74 - $1,185.00
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  39. 10 years? by silverkniveshotmail. · · Score: 3, Informative
    1. Re:10 years? by PhreakOfTime · · Score: 1

      Of course it is older than that! All you have to do is simply read the editor that posted the story - Zonk.

      Its obvious that there is ZERO fact checking or followup, and this guy just posts articles that could be completely wrong or incomplete without a care in the world.

      Every time I browse to slashdot and dont have zonk blocked under my preferences, I see some story that is horribly written. Which only confirms the reason that he was placed on that 'do-no-display' list in the first place.

      Lets face it, if you are an editor on slashdot, and you dont notice that you just posted something that claims 'intel inside' is a TEN year old slogan, then perhaps you are not qualified to be an editor here.

      Not to be demeaning, but it is pathetic. In the real sense of the word. Try this, do a search for 'zonk' on slashdot. It may clear some things up for you. Suffice it to say, he does not have many fans. I would be curious to see how many users have his contributions blocked.

  40. Chip it. by Phariom · · Score: 5, Funny

    Crack that chip,
    Give the stocks a slip,
    Step up on and hack,
    Break your boss' back.

    When a problem comes along,
    You must chip it,
    Before the screen sits on too long,
    You must chip it,
    When something's going down,
    You must chip it.

    Now chip it,
    Into shape,
    Shape it up,
    Code it straight,
    Go forward,
    Leap ahead,
    Try to detect it,
    It's not too late,
    To chip it,
    Chip it good.

    When Intel turns math around,
    You must chip it,
    Intel won't ever live it down,
    Unless you chip it,
    They'll never get their way,
    Until they chip it.

    I say Chip it,
    Chip it good.

    1. Re:Chip it. by JimiSpier · · Score: 0

      Awesome!

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    2. Re:Chip it. by Phariom · · Score: 1

      Thank ye! :-)

      Feel free to use that if you like. I see that you compose and play music. I don't believe anyone has writen a similar parody as yet so I'm sure nobody would make a fuss.

    3. Re:Chip it. by sgt_toeclipping · · Score: 1

      Very nice work... Hopefully Intel will read these threads and use that cactchy bass-line for there slogan as well? It would be a lot better than that annoying 4 note chime thing we have been forced to hear for so long now!!

  41. can't resist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The LeapFrog Leapster handheld helps children leap ahead to the next level of learning while being thoroughly engaged by favorite characters and fun animated activities.

  42. Re:Leap Ahead? by jZnat · · Score: 1

    I doubt you found out about this year having a leap second the way I did: by seeing it in the libc source code for timezones. :)

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  43. Mocks by tgraupmann · · Score: 1

    'Leap Ahead' is easier to mock than 'Intel Inside'. With 'Intel Inside' you can only mock with 'Intel Outside' or 'AMD Inside'. But there are way more mocks with 'Leap Ahead'. 'Leap Behind' 'Leaped Over' 'Leap Cog' I could go on and on....

    1. Re:Mocks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Isn't it 'Lept over'?

      Oh feh ...

    2. Re:Mocks by developer7 · · Score: 0

      "Idiot inside...?"

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    3. Re:Mocks by zlogic · · Score: 1

      You forgot "Idiot outside".

  44. ...the rest will follow? by John+Pfeiffer · · Score: 1

    Is this new slogan an Intel attempt at willing themselves into actually ACHIEVING a leap ahead? (After which they'd still be about a quarter mile behind AMD's chips, and losing ground steadily...) At any rate, ditching 'Intel Inside' was the right thing to do, it's become like a warning sticker...atleast 'A Leap Ahead' doesn't say 'Intel', so they might catch some consumers unaware. :P

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    1. Re:...the rest will follow? by Jekler · · Score: 1

      That was pretty clever, I got a chuckle out of that warning label comment =)

      I agree with you, and every technical professional knows that Intel has been steadily behind AMD for the last 5 or so years. I really wish companies would spend more time and resources on development rather than marketing. Maybe it's not feasible in our time, but in the future I hope "doing" becomes more popular than "bragging". Einstein (physics), Kasparov (chess), and Newton (physics) didn't need to market themselves or their developments. Their works were marvelous in and of themselves, no need for an ad campaign. When what you do is great, the world knows it, you don't need to convince them.

  45. 2.5 Billion Marketing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    2.5 Billion spent just on selling something. (Or developing a brand).

    Two thousand five hundred million on marketing. I'm struggling to get my head around that. I guess that the act of selling shit to others must just about be the biggest business in the first world.

  46. But if you compare the low end... by kf6auf · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Let's talk processor's someone might buy (prices from Fry's):
    PentiumD 820 2.8 GHz = $250
    AMD X2 3800+ 2.0 GHz = $330

    Sure, the AMD X2 3800+ is probably a little better, but it's not 35% better so the Intel has the better performance/price ratio. More importantly, you simply can't get a dual core AMD processor for what most people consider a reasonable price for a processor (I consider $250 the most I will spend or suggest someone spend).

    I don't understand your complaining that the marketing department is running things. Marketing departments are supposed to be the ones who pick a slogan. Intel finally got their marketing department out of their engineering meetings, and it looks like they are trying to maximizing performance/power now, which is something most people would love to see. If anything, they are going less to shit now than they were from 2002-2004.

    1. Re:But if you compare the low end... by kesuki · · Score: 1

      But the benchmarks show that the PD 820 is equivalent to a Single core A64 3800+ the dual core, being almost twice at fast is at least 90% better than the P-D 820 at multi-threaded apps... and at least 35% better at single threaded applications... well there you go the PR numbering has become askew... a 3800+ is really running on a par with a pentium OCed and liquid cooled to 4.8 ghz. the latest FX processor is really running applications as fast as an overclocked and nitrogen cooled 6.0 ghz pentium. kinda sad. an air cooled AMD chip is out perfmorming the fastest overclocks using nitrogen for the pentium...

      If you'd been following benchmarks you would have Known this. Until intel launches a 64-bit processor core they are screwed, they are a generation behind AMD, and AMDs chips will Keep Getting faster for another 2+ years before they need a new generation of core...

      now, intel could have skunkworked up a 64-bit chip, with x86 backwards compatability, that runs 32-bit code as fast or faster as it runs 64-bit code... but barring that they're going for hype to fool the unsuspecting masses. by a year or two AMD will be rolling out FX chips that perform equivalent to a 8-10 GHz intel... their 'discount' chips will still be running faster than a 4ghz clocked pentium (reguardless of what their pr numbers are) AMD saw intel's road map, and engineered chips that would keep them in the game.

      Intel's roadmap was dreamed up by their marketing department who fucked around with the engineers attempt to make something feasible happen.... i thought that maybe things had gotten turned around at intel, but clearly no. the only thing their engineers have managed to do is build lower and lower power chips with higher performance for the notebook and pda markets. AMD owns the performance and gaming and server markets thanks to intel's 'series of unfortunate events' but intel will retain the performance per watt crown in notebooks, blades, and hand held computing devices... and intel will of course retain the ability to produce high volumes of those chips... no matter how good AMD is, without 10-20 more fabs the size of their largest dresden fab, they simply can't produce the volume of chips needed to 'replace' intel. good news though is that they're going to build maybe 2-3 more fabs, which will put them at the capacity to output ~20% of the chips the market currently buys...

      hey, even the inquirer printed that intel would have 6 ghz chips in 2005, and 10 ghz chips by 2010, and clearly amd took it as a serious piece of news, and planned to if not beat them to the punch, deliver products that could compete with what intel was supposed to be offering.

      kinda like AMD was the first to deliver 1.0ghz chips in volume 9 months before intel's 1.0ghz pentiums were available in volume, even though intel had announced them as launched before the amd chips.

      Intel is still flush with cash, they could always turn things around, but it would take someone like donald trump to say 'You're fired' to all the marketing and managment people who got intel into this mess in the first place. otherwise they're going to keep loosing markets to amd.. and amd will keep getting investors to help them build many many more fabs, so they can replace intel with vendors like dell.

  47. Slogan? by Zorque · · Score: 0

    Sounds more like a To-Do list to me.

  48. In other words: AMD is killin' Intel by BadassJesus · · Score: 2, Informative

    Intel's board sees numbers going south and CEO of AMD Hector Ruiz is such a pain in their asses. AMD is indeed very happy with Ruiz, his paycheck is about half a mil bigger then Intel CEO's $1.8M, also Intel's CEO and other high officers were selling shares like crazy recently.

    http://www.reed-electronics.com/eb-mag/article/CA6 287342

    Intel's insider selling: http://finance.yahoo.com/q/it?s=INTC

  49. "Leap Ahead to 3 GHz!" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is it just me or have things not really change much with processors in the last 2 or 3 years?

    Leap ahead, indeed.

  50. I don't care how old it is by presidentbeef · · Score: 1

    Seriously, I don't think this is a good idea for Intel.
    "Intel Inside" has practically become part of U.S. culture. And they are going to throw that away...for "Leap Ahead" ??? Come on! An earlier poster said that all that cash from those expensive processors is going to marketing? I don't think so!

    Don't forget, most consumers have been incredibly confused since Intel stopped numbering their processors Pentium I, Pentium II, etc. "Pentium M? What's that? I want a Pentium 4, dude! 4 is greater than M! (I think)"

    Well, actually, maybe I should take that stuff back...most people probably won't even notice or care that their logo has changed...

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  51. Re:Leap Ahead? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I'm sure others can do better...

    Suck on it, bitch.

  52. In terms of Intel and AMD by phorm · · Score: 1

    I think it should be "lawsuits ahead"

    1. Re:In terms of Intel and AMD by mikek3332002 · · Score: 1

      What about 'patents inside'?

  53. They'll be replacing the jingle with... by wo1verin3 · · Score: 1

    the crazy frog ringtone :)

  54. A recognition of loosing to AMD by kylie69 · · Score: 0

    It's the only reason Intel why is changing its branding and marketing slogan. Had the thing worked out, there would be no change. But there are several years of AMD leadership in x86(_64) processors, and the new Intel processors don't seem to stand the Opterons or the Athlon64's, so they have to break it with the past and bring something completely new on the market.

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  55. Re:That's not impressive. I suggest an alternative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Intel: The processor that won't explode and kill you ... it would make no subliminal bold claims about their performance while simultaneously suggesting their competitors will explode and kill you... without directly saying it.

    People are not afraid of violence. How about, "Intel: The processor that won't rape your children."

  56. Re:I find it remar*k*able that there was NO SLOGAN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You mean logo. The slogan, "Leap Ahead", is already in the article, along with numerous references to the new (but unpictured) logo.

  57. How will AMD feel. by Stan+Vassilev · · Score: 1

    AMD's always been the little bastard brother of Intel, and always try to copy what they do, to keep up (marketing wise).

    Intel's got 586, AMD got 5K (5xx numbering).
    When later Intel pushed "Pentium", AMD also forgot numbers and went with Athlon.
    Intel's got Celeron, AMD got Duron (later Sempron) - they sound so alike.

    Now with Intel's Grand Vision for a Better World, I expect AMD will feel little and try to follow...

    Oh wait, check their site, they are already doing it. The banner on their home page is showing photos of African people with slogan "our vision for a connected world".

    Damn, now they only need a new slogan :)

    NOTE: I'm not making fun of AMD, it's hard to stay in business, but it's still an interesting to mention.

    1. Re:How will AMD feel. by dow · · Score: 1
      Intel's got 586, AMD got 5K (5xx numbering).

      Actually Intel never had a 586, iirc Cyrix and maybe AMD did, but intel came up with the pentium. If they'd continued with the numbering scheme would have been 585.95551 anyway.

      When later Intel pushed "Pentium", AMD also forgot numbers and went with Athlon.

      Actually, they came up with the K6, about the same time as Pentium MMX. Then Intel came up with the Pentium II, so AMD had a k6-2. Then about the time of the Pentium III, AMD came up with a k6-3 which was so fast it was undercutting their new Athlon range due to its large cache, so they shelved it, which was a great shame as it was one of the fastest socket 7 chips ever made.

      Intel's got Celeron, AMD got Duron (later Sempron)

      I find it amusing when a new, super fast architecture comes out thats going to blow away everything else. So then instead of continuing to make the older range for the budget end of the market, they make a retarded version of the new chip, because there isn't actually that much difference in speed when all things like cache are equal. Is the cache the expensive bit in modern procesors or what?
    2. Re:How will AMD feel. by mikis · · Score: 1

      Yes, I see the pattern. Intel was first to drop CPU speed from the processor name, first with 64bit x86 architecture, first with Dual Core, first with on-chip memory controller... AMD just copied that.

      Oh, wait...

    3. Re:How will AMD feel. by toddestan · · Score: 1

      Actually Intel never had a 586, iirc Cyrix and maybe AMD did,

      AMD had a 586 chip (I think it might of been called 5x86) Anyway, it ran at 133Mhz and was designed for a 486 motherboard. It was the fastest socket 3 chip ever made, and I have heard reports of people successfully running them at 160Mhz and even 200Mhz.

  58. Can't stop my... self... by ImaLamer · · Score: 1

    I for one welcome our communist, indium antimonide clad overlords!

  59. Minor quibble by Overly+Critical+Guy · · Score: 1

    From summary:

    The move was initially reported here on Slashdot yesterday.

    Slashdot simply linked to someone ELSE's reporting. I see this all the time, Slashdot claiming it reported on something previously. No, it linked to another person's work.

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  60. quick response re: R&D vs marketing by Bob-o-Matic! · · Score: 1

    Dec 05 IEEE Spectrum reports Intel Corp spent $4.778B on R&D in 2004, up 9.6% from 2003, making them the #13 R&D spender on the Spectrum top 100 list. What blows my mind is that some jackass(es) set policy that it is acceptable for the industry leader to piss away over half as much (have been seeing the figure of $2.5B) on a marketing campaign.

    Other interesting numbers:
    #7 Microsoft, $6.5B, down 20.5% from 2003
    #11 IBM, $5.167B, up 2%
    #16 Samsung Electronics, $4.529B, up 35.7%
    #89 AMD, $935M, up 9.5%

    See IEEE Spectrum's Top 100 table here

  61. English-centric slogan = bad by Max+von+H. · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I think it's a bad slogan for the simple reason "Intel Inside" was pretty much understood worldwide, even by non-English speakers. "Leap Ahead", besides sounding like a Chinese maoist revolutionary motto, won't appeal to the global populace the same way, unless they begin translating it in every language. Furthermore, it is a lot more difficult to articulate than "intel inside", to the point I seriously doubt a Frenchman or Spaniard could say it properly, let alone understand it first-hand.

    I guess the marketroids in charge should travel a little more outside the USA, just to get a grasp of the global Marketing English understanding in non-english-speaking countries (there's a lot of them, mind you).

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    1. Re:English-centric slogan = bad by Devistater · · Score: 1

      EXCELLENT point. I hadn't thought about the global implications of this slogan. Sounds like some VP's pet project. I'm predicting this logo thing is going to be trouble for intel.

    2. Re:English-centric slogan = bad by k01w · · Score: 1

      Very true. There are lots of examples where things like this went wrong. Remember that Douglas Stores slogan in Germany "Come in and find out!" Most Germans misuderstood for something like ~Come in and find your way out!~ Current trend is either use very basic english words or better just stick to the native language (Douglas, McDonalds, etc.) even if it sounds less ~cool~ -k

  62. Its like the Patriot Act by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Everything these days is labeled its opposite.

  63. Fairytales? by fatmal · · Score: 1

    The slogan Leap Ahead brings to mind a frog - haven't seen the logo yet - and with Intel now going to be the new supplier to Apple, all I can think of is fairytales. Let's hope it has a happy ending!

  64. October 1991 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    For some reason, I remember a full-page "Intel Inside" ad appearing in the October 1991 issue of National Geographic.

    1. Re:October 1991 by silverkniveshotmail. · · Score: 1

      Do you remember when the little four note chime for intel used to have them saying/singing "in-tel in-side"
      I wonder how long that's been.

  65. So... when will they drop "Pentium" then? by GozerBrothers · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The Intel Inside campaign dates to 1991... but the Pentium brand dates to 1993 [see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium], and has been used to label multiple generations of processors now. When will Intel stop labelling its processors Pentium and come up with a new brand name?

    1. Re:So... when will they drop "Pentium" then? by slashdotmsiriv · · Score: 1

      Yonah, Conroe, Merom. Need more?

    2. Re:So... when will they drop "Pentium" then? by MojoStan · · Score: 4, Informative
      When will Intel stop labelling its processors Pentium and come up with a new brand name?

      Next month, starting with Yonah and likely following with Merom (64-bit notebooks) and Conroe (post-P4 desktops).

      According to the article I linked to (and other articles), Intel will emphasize Yonah's platform (Centrino-like bundle of CPU/chipset/wireless) and refer to the CPU component as "Core Duo" and "Core Solo."

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    3. Re:So... when will they drop "Pentium" then? by FidelCatsro · · Score: 1

      I'm waiting for the Intel Han Solo , which comes with a little Chewie in every package to make sure your system keeps on running , no matter how many Tie Fighters you have on your tail.

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    4. Re:So... when will they drop "Pentium" then? by mikis · · Score: 1

      Yes. Those are the code names.

    5. Re:So... when will they drop "Pentium" then? by Tim+C · · Score: 1

      But on the boxes, it still says "Pentium"; they're just the code names, in the same way that Longhorn will be shipping with "Vista" on the box.

    6. Re:So... when will they drop "Pentium" then? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So they're dropping the old pentium name, and going with names like Intel Yonah? Talk about trading one bad name for another...

    7. Re:So... when will they drop "Pentium" then? by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 1

      And, as I understand it, Core Solo will ship first...

      I'm sorry. It had to be said...

  66. LIMP AHEAD! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Intel Limping ahead with P4 as a chain ball. Now you can have P4 D with 2 balls.

  67. leap ahead by prezz · · Score: 1

    what are we arguing for, the slogan 'leap ahead' is horrible I for one rarely leap, its a dangerous attempy at accompishing something that could be as easy as walking

  68. Re:That's not impressive. I suggest an alternative by someone300 · · Score: 1

    It sounds like a desperate attempt to sound 'cutting edge'...

    But you must agree it perfectly describes their leveraging of the latest technologies, providing a quantum leap ahead to new paradigms? This new inspirational company methodology will certainly inspire solutions to speed up the information superhighway!

  69. we all have it wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the new slogan is actually: Leap A Head It was taken from thier instructions of fun office games

  70. Re:That's not impressive. I suggest an alternative by rolfwind · · Score: 1

    They should have kept "Intel Inside"

    I know, back in the day, that slogan it meant something, where one paid the premium rather than go with some 'cheap' knockoff like the K5 (AMD) or a Cyrix chip.

    Now that slogan has little revelance.

    But "Leap Ahead" is so utterly uninspiring, with a designed by committee or consultant feel, where the overall effect is similiar to that of a '82 dodge with 300K miles getting a new $199 paint job by Maaco.

    Intel isn't Apple (Think Different.) It would have done better if it stuck to it's old slogan but make it mean something again with better product.

  71. Hardware? by Weedlekin · · Score: 1

    How does a new company slogan get lumped in under the "hardware" category? It is a marketing-related topic that has no more relevance to hardware than a new McDonalds slogan does to nutrition. Who edits this stuff?

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  72. it's better than by circletimessquare · · Score: 1
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  73. Re:That's not impressive. I suggest an alternative by Rob_Warwick · · Score: 1
    It sounds like a desperate attempt to sound 'cutting edge'...

    That kinda does sound like it might kill me.

  74. I don't see an issue here. by ScottCooperDotNet · · Score: 1
    How does a new company slogan get lumped in under the "hardware" category? It is a marketing-related topic that has no more relevance to hardware than a new McDonalds slogan does to nutrition. Who edits this stuff?

    Intel is a hardware company: processors, chipsets, etc. It's listed first under Intel and then under Hardware, I don't see an issue here.

    1. Re:I don't see an issue here. by Weedlekin · · Score: 1

      Quote from the original subject: "The change in Intel's brand is the first step in a $2.5 billion _marketing campaign_, BusinessWeek reported earlier" (emphasis mine).

      This is a piece of business news, not hardware news. That's why it's in BusinessWeek, and mentions things like stock prices and what executives had to say, while completely ignoring what Intel actually make. They could be a manufacturer of hamburgers or hammers, and the story would be equally applicable. This one should be under the general "IT" category, not hardware.

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  75. $2.5 billion? by __aahlyu4518 · · Score: 1

    A $2.5 billion marketing campaign? No wonder their chips are so much more expensive than AMD's !

  76. Re:Leap Ahead? by smittyoneeach · · Score: 1
    Flew Lufthansa back from Europe last week.
    Some fashion show on the screen.
    Strange peach-colored dress draped on the bulemic girl
    Wore a cloth covering her entire head, save a bit of hair in the back.
    Most terrifying was her handbag, which leads to this variation:
    Leap A(human)head.
    Maybe the commercial has a Mongol horde swooping through, decapitating a bunch of blue men, and then coke-addled fashionistas accessorizing. Nahhh, too conservative.
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  77. Remember Yoga Inside? by lostjay888 · · Score: 1

    When should we expect Intel's next round of lawsuits against things which have absolutely nothing to do with their market for infringing upon their trademark? I already see "Leap Ahead Phonics" and "Leap Ahead Math."

  78. hmm by bmc152006 · · Score: 1

    Personally, leap ahead sounds more generic than Intel Inside

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  79. Re:Leap Ahead? by commodoresloat · · Score: 1
    Well, Mao did try The Great Leap Forward, but as expected, it was a great step backward.

    Maybe Mao was using one of the old Pentium IIs with the math bug?

  80. Re:Leap Ahead? by MadJo · · Score: 1

    Quantum Leap Ahead
    Limp ahead
    Elope ahead
    galop ahead

    wait will they now sue everyone who uses the word "ahead" in their slogan?

  81. Re:Leap Ahead? by commodoresloat · · Score: 5, Funny
    The Intel guys didn't want their slogan to sound too authoritarian but their choices were poor to begin with. Just look at the slogans they rejected:
    • The Final Solution
    • Processor chip of the Proletariat
    • Intel Macht Frei
    The new Intel chips will be a lot more complicated, but don't worry, they will come with a Little Red Manual.
  82. Perhaps better slogan would be... by layer3switch · · Score: 1

    Leap "A" Head
    Every "leap" Intel makes, a little CEO's head gets chopped off somewhere in the world.
    Last time, it was Fiorina. I have my money on Larry Ellison!
    ...Well second thought, did I mention I'm not much of a gambler?

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  83. Limp Ahead by catdriver · · Score: 2, Funny

    Intel, Limp Ahead -- It has a nice ring.

  84. Re:Leap Ahead? by ozmanjusri · · Score: 1
    Nice thought, especially given their interest in DRM - how about
    • Big Brother is watching you. With Intel.
    • Computing without tears, that's what Intel is.
    • When you look into an Intel, the Intel also looks into you."
    This'd be a good time for some shill to join the thread and accuse us of thoughtcrime...
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  85. does this mean by darth_linux · · Score: 1

    every other organization using "leap" and/or "a" and/or "head" in their slogans will have to change? I seem to remember people using slogans in the form of " Inside" were hunted by Intel. Even non-profits with nothing to do with computers had to watch out.

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  86. Re:Leap Ahead? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That sticker will be a hit in toilets.

    intel
    leap ahead - IT IS NOT AS LONG AS YOU THINK

  87. Well the logo is odd by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 1
    It is on wikipedia (if I need to give you the keyword you are not worthy of oxygen) and it is a lot wider then the intel inside logo.

    So either it is not the real final logo OR it will be much smaller when used on a new computer case OR all computer cases will have to be redesigned for the larger sticker?

    WTF am I talking about? Well all grey boxes come with a little hole in the front where the builder can put his Intel or AMD logo. Since the new logo is far wider then high it doesn't fit. Shrink it and you would have a lot of whitespace.

    It seems an odd design for me. Granted the high end cases that people actually display don't even have a ugly sticker place and dirt cheap cases people will not give a shit but still it seems odd.

    I can't think that companies like Dell or HP are glad to have to do an adjustment to all their cases to fit the new logo. Perhaps that is where part of the 2.5 billion dollars is going to?

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  88. Why not keep the old one as well? by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I mean, "Intel inside" so you can "leap ahead" of the rest (cue businessmen beating their competitors, gamers getting that extra kill etc etc)

    Now they are trowing away a widely known slogan in the hope of recreating the success of the old one. Does McDonalds replace the M even if it tries to change its image of greasy fastfood? Does Coca-Cola launch a new blue and white bottle?

    No, you don't destroy slogans/names unless you feel that to not get a new image is going to kill you or if your marketting department has been let loose out of the basement.

    Intel inside has a lot of spoofs but that is good. Only the well known can be spoofed. Neither does Intel have a bad name among the general public. AMD is nibbling away but is that the time to go for a new slogan? Right when you want people to think "Hmmm well that machine looks hot but why doesn't it have that Intel Inside logo? I don't trust it. What is AMD anyway a chinese clone?" you remove that.

    I think this is the case of the runaway marketting department, any person living in a country were a national industry has been privatised can tell you what that is like. Were a name like "PTT" is twisted around and recoloured and resloganed so many times and people still call it by the old name because people don't change. For the dutch how many new names has your medical insurance company or elec/gas company had in the last decade?

    I say that the moment we are finished with shooting the lawyers we move on to the marketing people. Who is with me?

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    1. Re:Why not keep the old one as well? by deaddrunk · · Score: 1

      In the UK we went one better. The Post Office was renamed to Consignia and it hasn't even been privatised. And then the name was dropped because it was stupid and the clown in charge (one of those captains of industry that supposedly can make public services better) has gone to spend more time with his stock options.

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    2. Re:Why not keep the old one as well? by Ingolfke · · Score: 1

      Times have changed. "Intel inside" signified performance as well as a standard tried-and-true processing platform. It meant, "no knock offs" and "Windows and your other applications will work here fine". Now, AMD has a strong competitive position and have proven that they can produce chips that outperform and are as reliable as Intels... "Intel inside" has lost most of it's relevance. Cost and performance are the major concerns today and so Intel has adopted "Leap Ahead" to help position itself as the performance leader which will help them justify higher costs (slightly or not so slightly). They may also use this "Leap ahead" to signify that their chips and chipsets have more capabilities.

    3. Re:Why not keep the old one as well? by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      Multitask. Shoot them at the same time.

      How much MORE advertising am I going to have to avoid now that Intel has two BILLION dollars to spend making emotional appeals to try to convince me their product is better?

    4. Re:Why not keep the old one as well? by Dun+Malg · · Score: 1
      In the UK we went one better. The Post Office was renamed to Consignia and it hasn't even been privatised. And then the name was dropped because it was stupid and the clown in charge (one of those captains of industry that supposedly can make public services better) has gone to spend more time with his stock options.

      HAH! That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. What, was "Royal Mail" too dignified and prestigious a name? Was 350+ years of history just too much to live up to? Clown indeed!

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    5. Re:Why not keep the old one as well? by Kenshin · · Score: 1

      Now they are trowing away a widely known slogan in the hope of recreating the success of the old one. Does McDonalds replace the M even if it tries to change its image of greasy fastfood? Does Coca-Cola launch a new blue and white bottle?

      No, but they do come up with a new slogan every few years. ("I'm lovin' it", being the current, "Did somebody say McDonald's?" being the previous.) They also change the graphic treatment of the "Golden Arches" from time to time.

      Coke does the exact same thing. Every few years their cans are redone, and a a new slogan is thrown out there. ("Enjoy." being the current one.)

      Intel's logo is still blue, and still lower-case. The font's been changed, and they've merged an element of their branding logo (the enclosing loop) into their corporate logo.

      Not a massive change at all. Just a modernisation, which is something ALL companies do from time to time to keep from looking too stagnant.

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    6. Re:Why not keep the old one as well? by GWBasic · · Score: 1

      Personally, I think there's a little too much hoopla around Intel's logo change. The new logo is *SO SIMILAR* to the old logo that people who are accustomed to look for "Intel Inside" won't even know the difference. What motivated the change is that the CPU business is being quickly commoditized.

    7. Re:Why not keep the old one as well? by Mr+Z · · Score: 1

      Another good example is the Bell System. (Two links there.)

  89. Re:Leap Ahead? by bad+jerkface · · Score: 0

    Intel--It don't mean butt if it ain't got that jut!

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  90. Re:Leap Ahead? by MPHellwig · · Score: 1

    "Leap Ahead"? We used to call it "Tactical Retreat" when we got our ass shot off or "Side Maneuverer" if we had no idea where we're going. But I'll like the ring of it, next time I have to do a "Tactical Retreat" and "Side Maneuverer" at the same time I'll just say that I'm going to "Leap Ahead".

  91. bad name. bad idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    leap ahead?

    both words dont translate cleanly. both words are used extensively for dozens of
    other technical items.

    as for Viiv and this whole 'these chips allow you do view movies and listen to music
    on your home systems' - erm. perhaps consumers just dont use those TVout on their gfx
    cards and audio outs on their sound cards? why are they on those devices if they
    arent to be used? were we supposed to wait until 2006 to use such output? why arent
    people using them already? education?

  92. whois leapahead.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Domain Name: leapahead.com

                Created on..............: Mon, Jun 16, 2003
                Expires on..............: Fri, Jun 16, 2006
                Record last updated on..: Fri, Dec 30, 2005

  93. Dr. Sam Beckett Says... by Nuroman · · Score: 1

    Oh boy.

  94. Is "leap" a noun or a verb? by Nice2Cats · · Score: 1
    We had a little discussion here and can't figure it out: Is "leap" a verb ("Leap ahead with this chip") or a noun ("This is a leap ahead")? And if it is a verb, which mood is it -- are we talking about the imperative as in "You there, leap ahead!" or something more mundane like the "Leap ahead with this..." like above?

    I'm sure this all sounded good on paper to Intels little army of highly paid marketing droids, but to be honest, it's left me somewhat confused.

    1. Re:Is "leap" a noun or a verb? by Solidsnot · · Score: 1

      It is an imperative sentence.

  95. Full Slogan by FullMetalAlchemist · · Score: 1

    Full Slogan Disclosed:

    "Leap Ahead... An Break A Leg."

  96. So now I have to ... by Bazzalisk · · Score: 1

    ... Think Different and Leap Ahead?

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    1. Re:So now I have to ... by The+Ilia · · Score: 0

      What's the matter, can't think and leap at the same time?

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  97. Associations... by De_Boswachter · · Score: 1

    'Leap ahead'... Such a phrase instantly reminds me of 'The Gorge of Eternal Peril'.

  98. Re:Leap Ahead? by ABoerma · · Score: 1

    Leak ahead. Lag ahead. Sleep instead?

  99. Re:Leap Ahead? by Halfbaked+Plan · · Score: 1

    The 'Math Bug' was in the original pre-socket 5 Pentium.

    Mao was using waterboards, truncheons and various other bric-a-brac.

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  100. Chairman Bill's Great Leap Ahead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    nuf sed

  101. Who thinks up this crap? by RoffleTheWaffle · · Score: 2, Funny

    Okay. 'Intel Inside', may not have been an incredible slogan, but at least it was... mildly catchy and somewhat memorable. It had a flow to it, it didn't sound silly, and while I doubt that the presence of an Intel processor is actually a selling point for computers nowadays, I never thought that 'Intel Inside' was a bad slogan.

    'Leap Ahead', however, sounds retarded. Really now, if it ain't broke, don't fix it, especially if you're changing off a good, well-known slogan for one that sounds stupid. I'm pretty sure the marketing department was really brainstorming this one...

    "We need to give Intel a FRESH TWIST. We need to appeal to the consumer electronics market, and now more than ever our ability to market these products is going to be a factor in the future of our firm. I say we start with a new slogan and go from there."

    "Uh."

    (20 hours later.)

    "... What about 'Leap Ahead'?"

    "That's stupid. You're stupid. But our shifts have been over for about twelve hours, so let's just leave it at that."

    1. Re:Who thinks up this crap? by kimvette · · Score: 1

      Well the idiotic thing is that "Leap Ahead" is lame on all counts.

      "Intel Inside" is widely recognized and would work just as well for consumer electronics, appliances, etc. as it does for processors and motherboards.

      I think Intel goofed. I like the logo but the slogan reeks. Also, $2.5bil on the awareness campaign for the new logo? If they had left well enough alone they wouldn't have had to spend a dime. Were I an Intel shareholder I'd be pissed and would be dumping the stock because it's a waste of money.

      I have yet to figure out why ANY company with a world-known instantly-recognizable and well-designed corporate logo would EVER change it. It'd be like Ford abandoning the script Henry Ford designed, or Chevrolet completely abandoning the bow tie.

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  102. Erm by deaddrunk · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    What are you talking about?

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  103. Leap Ahead? Intel needs to set it's goals higher.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    ..... http://www.leapsbeyond.com/


    Intel must like the taste of dust in it's mouth...either that or they are getting lazy in their old age.

  104. Re:Leap Ahead? by antek9 · · Score: 1

    Thanks, I found the "à la aped, eh!" extraordinarily intriguing.

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  105. Re:Leap Ahead? by magores · · Score: 1

    Umm... It should be illegal to reference the Great Leap Forward by using wikipedia, when wikipedia is unavailable in the country that did the Great Leap Forward.

    (I live in the PRC.)

  106. Poor ol' Intel by blankoboy · · Score: 1

    www.leapsahead.com ROLF.

    1. Re:Poor ol' Intel by blankoboy · · Score: 1

      erm....ROFL even

    2. Re:Poor ol' Intel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They'll get a letter from intel's legal department any minute.

  107. Re:That's not impressive. I suggest an alternative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Somebody's been watching Arrested Development!

  108. Leap Ahead? That's all they could come up with? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So AMD will have a full page ad with a man standing on the edge of a cliff, with the text "Look Before You Leap" and an AMD logo. $2,5 billion down the drain. Leap ahead my ass.

  109. Here's the new logo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can find the Leap ahead logo here:
    http://tecnologia.terra.com.br/interna/0,,OI813997 -EI4803,00.html

    The page is in portuguese. But the news is the same.

  110. Intel behind again by BCW2 · · Score: 1

    I did my "Leap Ahead" three years ago when I switched to AMD!

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  111. Intel is sucking someone's dust...... by blankoboy · · Score: 1

    Sad thing is they have already been one-upped. Someone else is 'leaps beyond' them. LOL
    www.leapsbeyond.com

  112. Apple fandom and Intel by theolein · · Score: 1

    I use a Mac and am usually embarrassed when I see Mac fans going on about how the Mac is better than anything else on this earth including sex with Jessica Alba, but what really frightens me is what is going to happen next year when Apple starts bringing out Intel based Macs and they start to use the same fan based logic on Intel CPUs that they use on Macs: (Future Quote: "Intel is the best and I know this because Steve said so and I trust him with my babies and my credit cards")

    1. Re:Apple fandom and Intel by aristotle-dude · · Score: 1
      I use a Mac and am usually embarrassed when I see Mac fans going on about how the Mac is better than anything else on this earth including sex with Jessica Alba

      Uh pal, maybe "gay" mac users might think their mac is better than Jessica Alba but virtually any straight guy would pick sex with Jessica Alba over their mac or PC. Mind you, I'd pick Maria Menounos over Jessica.

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  113. Re:Leap Ahead? by fuzzix · · Score: 1
    Nice thought, especially given their interest in DRM
    Imagine a chip implanted in a human face forever. This vision is now a reality... with Intel *bing-bing-bing-bong*

    Now, and forever
  114. I like the new slogan by richman555 · · Score: 1

    The new slogan makes sense as Intel has set themselves up to leapfrog AMD. This combined with the new Apple/Intel relationship is going to be huge. I think both sides are going to benefit from this arrangement and I am excited to see their collaborative efforts. I think both companies will play a huge role in the roll out of wireless mobile devices. AMD is fine for todays computing needs, but Intel might be the way to go for tommorrow.

  115. Re:Leap Ahead? by BruceCage · · Score: 1

    Hold on...what?

    Either you're talking about there not being a Chinese version of Wikipedia, the censorship of Wikipedia by the Chinese government, or the non-existence of a Chinese article describing "The Great Leap Forward". Even if any or all of the afformentioned were true, I cannot imagine why this would be a reason to restrict knowledge of this event to us (people outside of mainland China).

    As far as I can tell, there is at least a Chinese Wikipedia (available through zh.wikipedia.org). And it too contains an article about "The Great Leap Forward" (trans.)

    However, at the moment it is indeed not wholly available to people within China's borders.

    The third block began on October 19, 2005, and once again there is no indication as to whether this block is temporary or permanent, or what the reasons or causes for this block are. According to the status page currently maintained on the Chinese Wikipedia, the Florida and Korea servers are blocked, while the Paris and Amsterdam servers are not. Dozens of editors from across Mainland China have reported that they can only access Wikipedia using proxy servers, although there are isolated reports that some users can access Wikipedia without using proxy.

    As stated, it is still possible for those same people to access Wikipedia. And it might be unblocked completely in the future.

    Please reconsider forcing censorship upon us.

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  116. On budget lines... by Junta · · Score: 1

    What I've always heard is that it is more cost effective to do it this way than maintain old product lines. This is because, for the most part, the budget processors are chips off the line that have flaws preventing reliable use of the full cache, and so that cache is disabled and shipped. Occasionally there are incidents of particularly good yield and they will take otherwise good processors. Simply because they know they have more product than their demand dictates at the desired price point for the high-end, and vice-versa on the low end. Though not cache, there was a long run of Celeron's that could easily and reliably be clocked up that someone had said was due to this phenomenon.

    Of course, this could all be tech urban legend, but it fits in pretty well with the practices I do know about in the business.

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  117. Does this mean an end to NASCAR laptops? by BitwizeGHC · · Score: 1

    When Intel Inside first started appearing on computers Dvorak predicted that it would be followed soon by enough manufacturer labels ("floppy drives by Toshiba", "screws by Acme") to make computers look like NASCAR racers. This prediction actually came true; recently I bought a Toshiba laptop and found that it had come adorned not just by the CPU manufacturer (Intel), but the video chipset, sound chipset, and wireless chipset manufacturers as well, and of course there's the required "Designed for Microsoft Windows XP" sticker. I carefully scraped each and every one of those stickers off and now the laptop looks great, but I hope this shift in marketing direction means less eyesore decoration on machines out of the box.

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  118. you said it yourself... by YesIAmAScript · · Score: 1

    "AMD64 scales extremely well - with DDR2, faster HT, 65nm, and higher clocks, F stepping will have no problem remaining compeitive with inte's NGA."

    Slashdot dogma is that Intel is so far behind that they can't even see the same continent as AMD's performance levels. Now you're saying "new Intel stuff isn't all that, AMD will have no problem keeping up". Can't you see the difference that is? You are even saying now that you expect them to be neck and neck.

    That's a big chance, one which really could influence the market and people's buying habits.

    Additionally, now we have AMD proponents (such as yourself) saying how AMD will keep up with "higher clocks". The shoe really is on the other foot now!

    Anyway, AMD is 6 months behind getting to DDR2 and they'll be 6 months behind getting to 65nm. That indicates how much advantage Intel has if they just get their act together architechturally. Well, I have bad news for AMD, it looks like they have. We're going to have a interesting horse race. AMD is going to be trailing on performance/Watt for several months.

    Of course, your comment is that Intel has to actually ship parts to make all this real. And you're right. Unfortunately for you, you'll only be right on that point for about 14 days more.

    This post was typed on an AMD A64 X2 4200+, while my Intel P4 3.0GHz/800MHz hums along right beside it (taking more power and with less performance, but then again, it is about 3 years old).

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    1. Re:you said it yourself... by Kjella · · Score: 1

      "AMD64 scales extremely well - with DDR2, faster HT, 65nm, and higher clocks, F stepping will have no problem remaining compeitive with inte's NGA."

      Slashdot dogma is that Intel is so far behind that they can't even see the same continent as AMD's performance levels. Now you're saying "new Intel stuff isn't all that, AMD will have no problem keeping up".


      What part of "Intel is taking a big leap in performance and will now be on par with AMD" is inconsistent with Intel behing far behind? The performance/watt numbers for Yonah are particularly impressive, they spank AMDs offering just as Pentium M did when first released. Availability, pricing and scaling will tell if that's a lasting advantage though. Personally I've usually come to the conclusion that Intel processors carry a premium that isn't justified in performance.

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  119. AMD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    AMD's new slogan is "AMD: Already There".

  120. Leap a head? by mnemotronic · · Score: 1
    What is this, the porcelain goddess olympics?

    To my mind, this slogan is easily confused with the Daylight Savings Time mnemonics (no relation) "Spring Forward" and "Fall Back".

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  121. I had an idea like that once... by mrt300 · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... it was called a... "Jump to conclusions" mat [crooked smile]

    Sorry, I had to make the joke.

  122. small observation by CarpetShark · · Score: 1
    Hmm, so hard to crack jokes at Leap Ahead.
    No, but you can quietly observe that Intel has lost the technical lead to AMD, so now they're focusing more and more on the mainstream consumer recognition that doesn't care for technical details.
    1. Re:small observation by rubycodez · · Score: 1

      and let's not forget the Itanium2, designed for big iron purchasers that don't care for technical details.

  123. New Tagline by stateofmind · · Score: 1

    "Do not taunt Happy Intel Processors"

  124. Re: Intel = frog by bezuwork's+friend · · Score: 1
    That's too funny. I immediatly had the image of a frog with "Intel" on it at the start of a race against a hare with "AMD" on it.

    Pretty devastating image, actually.

    Maybe FARK can have a photoshop contest on this.

  125. A mistake, IMO. "Intel Inside" was brilliant by CFD339 · · Score: 1

    As someone who had been making clone PC's since the mid 80's, I remember being surprised by the "Intel Inside" slogan and stickers when I first saw them. REALLY soon after that I realized how brilliant it was when I started having to ask people who wanted to know if it had "the Intel" in it why they cared? At the time I was using Cyrix and AMD chips more frequently.

    Its really taken a long time for AMD to become a serious competitor again -- and they've only been able to do that because of trully significant improvements that overwhelm Intel on a few fronts (like heat & power).

    As a side note -- for the first time I can recall, I really do feel like I'd be better off on my next build for my desk to use an AMD processor. I have a P4 2.8ghz HT which I like, but runs very hot and really sucks down the juice.

    So, Intel -- dumb move to drop the "Intel Inside" logo and campaign. It was a really great ad campaign in that it made consumers care for the first time (and for no good reason) who made their processor.

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  126. How about a warning by lilmouse · · Score: 1

    Don't play leapfrog with a unicorn.

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  127. Re:Leap Ahead? by Araxen · · Score: 0

    hrmmmmmm....Is this an open invitation for AMD to "Lead Ahead"

  128. "Leap" already used by another computer company by dlleigh · · Score: 1

    Bad move. These guys may sue them for trademark infringement/dilution, etc. In any case, if I were Intel, there's no way I'd want people to associate my high-tech processors with the above computers.

  129. Got tired of the old one by mhollis · · Score: 1

    They must have started getting tired of all of the Apple aficionados wearing t-shirts and ball caps saying, "Evil Inside."

    The Apple move may have encouraged this...

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  130. If you can't beat your competitors. . . by kimvette · · Score: 1

    If you can't produce CPUs to outperform processors made by AMD, your chief rival, change your logo and slogan to imply that you really aren't slower.

    (I'm no anti-Intel bigot, fwiw - I stick with Intel due to most apps' still being compiled using Intel optimizations)

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  131. The fun ends by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    I'm gonna miss seeing "Intel Inside" stickers on the toilet seats. Our IT department has a sense of humor. Maybe they'll put "Leap Ahead" stickers on the urinals now.

  132. Re:Leap Ahead? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Canadian?

  133. Re:That's not impressive. I suggest an alternative by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

    Yeah ... kinda makes you think, "boxcutter knife". In any event, it's a sure bet that the Transportation Safety Administration won't allow anything with sharp edges on a plane, so best not buy Intel in your laptop.

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  134. Re:That's not impressive. I suggest an alternative by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

    Well, I believe that terrorists have been found to be smuggling important information inside CPU chips, consequently the original "Intel Inside" slogan will still be used when marketing to CIA, NSA, FBI and other law-enforcement and surveillance agencies.

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  135. Re:Leap Ahead? by Squarepusher · · Score: 1
    Meanwhile Dig'em the frog is being courted with an advertising contract for the new campain. : http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item =6165614189&category=38019

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  136. A Quantum Leap Ahead? by SirBruce · · Score: 1

    Ziggy estimates there's a 99.99% chance this new slogan will be a failure.

    Bruce

  137. Re:Leap Ahead? by ryanov · · Score: 1

    I don't think it is. They have to leap ahead, because as it stands now, they've fallen behind.

  138. A Great Leap Forward? by aricusmaximus · · Score: 1

    Seeing this posting immediately brought the Great Leap Forward to mind. Possibly not the best connotation -- does Intel really want to associate their product with one of the greatest economic disasters (and subsequent famine) in history? Perhaps the Intel department should have done at least a cursory check of world history before launching this campaign.

  139. Re:Leap Ahead? by WilliamSChips · · Score: 1

    You forgot one: "Operation CPU Freedom"

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  140. Typical Modern Marketing by Mutatis+Mutandis · · Score: 1

    Sounds like typical modern marketing. Perhaps "Intel Inside" wasn't very meaningful, but it was a good slogan, that conveyed the feeling that Intel was a quality label. "Leap Ahead" is just awful, bland, undistinctive.

    $2.5 billion on marketing, and there is a fair chance that when customers see "Leap Ahead" on a PC after that, they will think it is AMD's slogan, or that Leap is some new Chinese chip manufacturer.

    Nil novi sub sole in the world of marketing. Have you noticed how in recent years, just about every small airliner has been renamed the Regional Jet?

  141. Wow, I'm SO Impressed! by Master+of+Transhuman · · Score: 1


    The marketing muscle behind Intel must be SO brilliant, it blinds me!

    "Leap Ahead" - Wow! The brilliance! The magnificence! The genius!

    Anybody remember "The Road Ahead"?

    And Linus's comment?

    Here's a suggestion for Intel - use the slogan "Leap Without looking Ahead!" Then you can add "And Without Looking Back At Bill To See If He Approves"...

    In other words, who gives a flying cockroach's ass what the Intel slogan is? It's a SLOGAN, morons!

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  142. EAT A HEAD by drewzhrodague · · Score: 1

    eat a head -- Y'know, it rhymes!

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  143. Re:Leap Ahead? by neksys · · Score: 1

    Sweet mother of all things holy, this is the only Slashdot post to ever cause Coca-cola to blow through my nostrils. Good stuff.

  144. But... by Megane · · Score: 1

    ...but what will I put on my wastebaskets now that there won't be any more "Intel Inside" stickers?

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  145. apple etc by onShore_Jake · · Score: 1

    I thought for sure this had to do with Apple. I wonder what will happen on the 9th.
    I don't think it is a very good slogan tho. Leap ahead makes it sound to me as if the clock is screwy on it.

  146. PowerLeap should sue. by Derling+Whirvish · · Score: 1
    The new tagline will be 'Leap Ahead', replacing the 10 year old 'Intel Inside'.

    PowerLeap, maker of Intel CPU upgrade kits, should sue.

  147. Their new logo? by SnarfQuest · · Score: 1

    They need a more exciting and dynamic image, linked to a beloved internet icon, to put on the stickers attached to all their PC's.

    Now it will be a stick figure jumping over a smiley face. (leap a head).

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  148. Re:How long since Insel Intide? by slickwillie · · Score: 1

    You know, after they had that little problem with simple arithmetic on the new Pentium?

    Leap Aside?

  149. Re:Leap Ahead? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Some more anagrams for Leap Ahead.

    A Pale Head
    Heap a Deal

    Heap a Lead
    A Heap a Led

    He'd ape ala
    Had ape ale
    Pea had ale
    He ape a dal
    ape had lea
    He ape a lad

  150. Limps ahead, is more like it. by Scallawag · · Score: 1

    AMD 64 bit dual core...see ya!

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