I don't mean to but in here, but as I understand it most of the "beach ball" is mainly a function of threading, not your RAM or applications (FYI I, too have 1 gig of RAM on my Pismo and see it, but hardly ever page). It's my impression (after talking to someone on the original Rhapsody team) that it is a function of either the finder not being completely multi-threaded (fixed in 10.2?) or the app itself, particularly a Carbon app (ie 5 comes to mind very quickly).
384 should be sufficient depending on the processor. IMHO Apple has/had no business releasing the 500mhz G3 ibooks - I've used one of those as a daily driver and a 500 mhz Pismo. World of difference, but still second class compared to a G4. Really, it's my experience that 10.1.x so far isn't really usable on any g3 based platform 600 mhz or so depending on RAM and applications. G4s seemed to be a totally different world. It's better than running 95 on a 486, running 10.1.x on a g3 has been something akin to my exp. running NT 4 on a 200 mhz Pentium. Usable with RAM, but you pine for the big processor.
Frankly, I'll be very disappointed if 10.1.x users don't get the free update with a trip to an apple store, and don't like the fact that it's going to cost me $8 per month to keep my.mac email address.
"McAfee and Symantec (and all the other AV vendors out there) are waging a PR war to "discover" ever more news-worthy viruses to defend against."
So there is not one AV vendor with any scruples. ALL vendors are evil.
While I'm not trying to discredit the fact that the two "bogus" announcements out there are likely the product of an over-imaginative marketing department, making blanket statements like "all the... av vendors" is at about the same sensational level.
Well, first off, my reply wasn't to you, unless you're the original poster using another user account. If you are the original poster, then what x86 UNIX are you using, a SCO UNIX, ____BSD, Solaris? An ancient copy of NeXTStep?
Second, please re-read my post. The sentence you quote was written specifically to circumvent inane comments like yours. I've read enough of/. do anticipate the disappointingly average responses like the above (indeed, if you check the user # I'm more than a half-million users before you bothered to register - If I had a nickel for every two bit response posted here....)
It was suggested that the individual take a look at the OS X platform "at some point in the future", not "run out and drop down $1200 for a used g4 based powerbook right now just so you can run Quicken and Steve Jobs rules!" Hopefully, the omission of blatant pro-Apple/RISC drivel in my post, with a soft suggestion that indeed these apps are running under the platform in question (UNIX, not Linux) was designed to temper such soft-trolling that amounts to "OS X isn't Linux" and "It doesn't run on x86", both of which quickly devolve into how cheaply the supposedly enterprising geek can build a dual athalon monster machine for the price of an Apple platform that runs comparable GNU software to the commercial application in question (which makes one wonder how many actually have performed this platform gymnastic they're so quick to advocate).
As far as answering your post, either it's a whining piece of self-answering troll, or you somehow believe that I'm privy to the OS X product roadmap. I tend towards the former, which actually suggests that you're actually unhappy with your platform (x86) choice and the commitment you made in that investment, or you wouldn't have wasted the electrons complaining. My guess is "don't hold your breath" for an x86 port. If you really want the breadth of applications and UNIX that OS X offers, then you'll likely need to save several hundred bucks for a used powerbook (Which would be an answer to your "space" issues. If you can't afford the footprint of a laptop, you need to invest in more real estate, not a new platform).
Are you more interested in the platform or the applications? You've mentioned UNIX (not Linux), but also WINE. This would suggest an uncommon desktop environment, one with less than the small fraction of a % that even Linux owns. It would be difficult to imagine that you could find financial apps for your working environment.
However, there are now several fine commercial financial applications that run on BSD UNIX via OS X. Quicken and MYOB accounting are two that I've used.
I'm sure that switching platforms now just for the application mentioned is not a particularly viable option, but if you aren't opposed to using commercial apps and want UNIX, you may consider looking into OS X at some point in the future.
DeWitt, was a very talented CEO and did great things for Cobalt.
His leaving will have absolutely NO direct effect on Open Office (there's a political assumption made by the poster that doesn't fit), and might be a good thing for Linux in Cobalt.
In fact, the sooner Sun realizes it is in a very difficult position because of x86 Linux, the better. The Cobalt appliances are overpriced and underpowered, the Cobalt line has all sorts of issues, the not the least of which is a non-standard distribution. Standard Distribution is what the customer wants, not an appliance. Linux seems to be eating Sun's lunch as much, if not more, than NT.
The Solaris faction will never allow Linux to co-exist peacefully within Sun, the SPARC faction will never adopt x86, not to mention push x86 Linux, so neither the software side nor the hardware side, politically, will ever truly adopt Linux.
Furthermore, the sales force is keen on the BIG hardware sale. No Sun sales person wants to sell a $2,000 x86 Linux box.
About the best thing you can say for Linux within Sun is there's a small amount of hope that the former iPlanet team will maintain some semblance of autonomy with regards to OS support for their software. Unfortunately, Sun marketing can't position them to gain mindshare against competing technologies, so the hope is fairly small (and I might add that the ONLY reason that iPlanet has any real non-Solaris support is because it's the Netscape Enterprise stuff).
No, Sun is not in a good position as Linux starts charging into it's space. It's already killed the small workstation market for them (mmmmm.... IPC), UNIX shops that were buying SPARC 20s in the mid 90s for IP services have mostly migrated to some "free" UNIX on x86, and now IBM is pushing big Linux iron (FYI, there was a point not too long ago when IBM Global sold more SPARC than Sun sales force.... interesting when viewing the ramifications of IBM's Linux Lovin'). I've made assumptions here about Linux being able to succeed in what's left in Sun's core space, but I'd imagine that by now IBM, Dell, and HPAQ have all realized that the sooner they are able to push x86 Linux into competition with Sun where they've reallly had little, the better. After all, to these guys, it's all about either volume (Dell) or services (IBM/HPAQ). Dell's a price point leader with good enough quality, and IBM/HPAQ realize that (at least in the "enterprise space" they both have big profitable niche's outside of where they compete with Sun and their services arm) their hardware/software efforts are simply the tools to sell more services, and if they can sell hardware/software profitably, good for those business units.
A Sun shareholder or fan can only hope that these mix ups bring about a new focus from within Sun - but frankly McNealy will have to turn the charging elephant, it'll take a heck of a turnaround with HUGE amounts of organizational change.
I ran into Microsolved ( http://www.microsolved.com ) back when I was PM for a firewall product (that's now part of Sun via Cobalt). Their resume impressed me, it included at least one State Treasury Department.
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Oh, how painful. Of course, I see it now that you spell it out to me. I'm a little slow . I was also in too serious mode this AM.
Sorry.
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Photo Ionisation Detectors?
My train of thought was thus: If we hop in the wayback machine to 1999....
Well, if you're, say, the CEO of Springfield Cardboard Box Co (Springfield, Springfield!). I do maybe 1,000,000 in sales and have about 15 employees, maybe 7 of which are behind a desk. You've got a simple internal network (still Novell 4, or maybe since you've made that leap to 95 and your wife's brother is a "PC guy" you have a simple SMB network. You might also have an springfieldbox@aol.com that you dial out from your desktop.
You read about this new DSL stuff, and you sunk money into Office 97 and it has this outlook thing, and you really should think about this internet thing and some slick guy tries to sell you on a website.... But you make cardboard boxes, and the only reason you trade electrons with other computers in the first place is because your brother in law set up your network BUT YOU HAVE TO GET THIS INTERNET THING NOW! Bell Canada comes along with this "high speed Internet, 20 times faster than aol". But to integrate yourself you can do one of two things. Spend the time and money to hire some M$ outfit to come drop an NT server down (Win2k and Compaq) or there's this nice bundle with this "Office Server" that you, the box guy, can hit a web page and give everyone an email address and desktop access with. It's also a file server, so with the VPN feature (that never worked) I can connect from my new Bell Canada home DSL and get that spreadsheet I want to work on this weekend.
Vaporware, yes - but all I said was that I liked the idea. At that point, an NT server was cost and expense (including maint.) that a little linux box really had an advantage over.
Is Sun still releasing new Cobalt product? I hear there's a pretty good roadmap, but since the horrific XTR release, what have they done for me lately?
It's true, Sun has a very good Security team looking out for the Cobalt product line (ex-progressive systems and Microsolved). And I've had stellar support in the past.
But, given a little insight into the sales and marketing mechanism there, you have to wonder about the "commitment" to "Linux" Sun has.
1.) Almost All of the Cobalt sales staff was let go. The regional Sun sales staff wants to work one or two sales of $xxx,xxx servers, not $x,xxx or less server products save in BIG volume (Iike a CDW).
2.) Sun channel commitment is dubious at best for the Cobalt line. Would Sun rather sell a $x,xxx Netra or a $x,xxx Cobalt box? Those T1's are getting close in price to the Cobalt line that uses less than the going speed of AMD chips.
3.) Cobalt Marketing. Since the "sales" of Cobalt boxes are now essentially "call CDW", you think they're going to go full after Win2k compaq boxes in the SMB market with Qubes? I agree with you that there's an (ahem) unexploited (ahem) market there with the opportunity to take sales away from Microsoft, but It's going to take reaching small business owners. You don't do that by not advertising and saying "call CDW" anytime someone wants to order "onsey-twosey" sales.
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I hope they succeed just in that I used to know a couple of folks at the old rebel who worked too hard and had stupid management kill the company.
I mean, all that money for rebel.com and James Dean, yet it was my impression that they spent very little budget building channel and getting distributors (I'm not sure they ever got Techdata, Ingram or Merisel).
As previous posts alluded to, VPN thing was a mess. There were deals in place with vendors to try to get real (not PPTP) client server VPNs on the box. Rebel engineering understood and looked out for end user security. At the time the use of Strong Arm and the lack of mature VPN technology really hurt their efforts, though (and the deals they were asking the VPN vendors for). Later, it's my understanding that they actually made nifty Free S/WAN boxes.
It'll be interesting to see if this company can revive the "cute little office server" market. Cobalt Product Management and the Sun purchase has essentially run the Qube product into the ground. It was interesting to see Sun's public "commitment" to "Linux" when the Cobalt BU has been so ignored (let's just say that integration into the sales mix didn't go to well, and casulties in the first Sun layoffs included most of Cobalt Sales and Marketing).
Combine the loss of sales interest from Sun with a total lack of new product releases and feature sets from the Cobalt line, and you have to hurt for those who really believe in the Cobalt products. Because while it's nice to have an "appliance" product, I'm not sure I want to spend Cobalt pricing for an AMD 450 with a tiny hard drive or two when I can build a pretty nice server myself for the money.
I also liked the Rebel.Net idea. Ok, maybe not the name, but bundling a Netwinder as a SOHO/SMB server with DSL service seemed like a real value and a way help those businesses not have to spend extra $$ on Win2k and Compaq hardware.
I hope that the new company will continue to use an x86 architecture, and that they'll find a better quality hardware source. With the excuse that most of my experience with the Netwinders were pre-release units, they did tend to rattle and hum at times (maybe it wasn't the hardware but the shipping box?!).
I really had respect for the software engineering side that Rebel had.
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And every day I'm thankful that Linux supports that investment I made in my 286 15 years ago.
Seriously, It's time to sell the IIfx on ebay to some idiot who thinks his "Mac Collection" will be worth something someday. Better yet, part the thing out (esp. the RAM and any nubus ethernet cards you might have) and sell them to some moron who wants to use his IIfx to play Pirates! or use it as a a really flaky Linux router.
Better yet, donate it to a third world country or.org. They might actually have a use for it.
And those pre-G3 nubus powermacs that aren't supported by any Apple Unix? You can use Apple-sponsered MkLinux on them.
Not trying to take one side or another, but I'd like to point out that an "anonymous reader" submitted this story.
I guess that would be an "anonymous reader" who just happened to surf over to her personal website and came across her account and tied it in nicely to the previous slashdot article and decided to submit this.
I guess then, davmoo, that both sides are using the guise of anonymity to make "negative comments" (negative, of course from the VCs point of view - there are several sides to every story, no?).
Actually, that one's pretty easy. Intel wants p2p to be big, too. Why? Because they want people to buy bigger and badder PCs. You'll need all that OS/hard drive/Processor to do p2p computing.
At some point someone might just make an actual "thin client" because traditional Interent applications (email, browsing, etc.) and many business functions can be light client/heavy server apps. These apps don't need big Pentium 6's running at 10 ghz. They also don't need a 2 GB OS. So P2P is a PC "killer app". The sooner client/server computing is moved towards p2p in terms of horsepower, the better for the Duopoly.
If you went to, say, one of the Napster/Metallica threads, cut and paste this story in, how do you think it would be moderated?
Looks suspicously like those "Jews rule the world" posts you see all the time.
Of course, I didn't take time to read the article much, once I saw Katz re-define a term.
Hey, I redefine corporation to mean "fuzzy blue duck" and republic to mean "timex watch" for the 21st century, because everything is so wonderfully post-modern. Now write an article.
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To be a bird in Denmark.
is their netcraft uptimes
In the voice of Neil from The Young Ones:
"Ohhhh, I get it. Alan's called Vim and you're Mum's dead."
Boy, I was going to make some smart-alek comment about CHRP but looks like you beat me to it.
Even better, I hear that some of the Cisco WAPs support VOIP. Now there's a recipe for disaster.
Good Lord of the Dance.
You think Microsoft "helped" Apple develop WebObjects applications?
I don't mean to but in here, but as I understand it most of the "beach ball" is mainly a function of threading, not your RAM or applications (FYI I, too have 1 gig of RAM on my Pismo and see it, but hardly ever page). It's my impression (after talking to someone on the original Rhapsody team) that it is a function of either the finder not being completely multi-threaded (fixed in 10.2?) or the app itself, particularly a Carbon app (ie 5 comes to mind very quickly).
.mac email address.
384 should be sufficient depending on the processor. IMHO Apple has/had no business releasing the 500mhz G3 ibooks - I've used one of those as a daily driver and a 500 mhz Pismo. World of difference, but still second class compared to a G4. Really, it's my experience that 10.1.x so far isn't really usable on any g3 based platform 600 mhz or so depending on RAM and applications. G4s seemed to be a totally different world. It's better than running 95 on a 486, running 10.1.x on a g3 has been something akin to my exp. running NT 4 on a 200 mhz Pentium. Usable with RAM, but you pine for the big processor.
Frankly, I'll be very disappointed if 10.1.x users don't get the free update with a trip to an apple store, and don't like the fact that it's going to cost me $8 per month to keep my
"McAfee and Symantec (and all the other AV vendors out there) are waging a PR war to "discover" ever more news-worthy viruses to defend against."
... av vendors" is at about the same sensational level.
So there is not one AV vendor with any scruples. ALL vendors are evil.
While I'm not trying to discredit the fact that the two "bogus" announcements out there are likely the product of an over-imaginative marketing department, making blanket statements like "all the
Well, first off, my reply wasn't to you, unless you're the original poster using another user account. If you are the original poster, then what x86 UNIX are you using, a SCO UNIX, ____BSD, Solaris? An ancient copy of NeXTStep?
/. do anticipate the disappointingly average responses like the above (indeed, if you check the user # I'm more than a half-million users before you bothered to register - If I had a nickel for every two bit response posted here....)
Second, please re-read my post. The sentence you quote was written specifically to circumvent inane comments like yours. I've read enough of
It was suggested that the individual take a look at the OS X platform "at some point in the future", not "run out and drop down $1200 for a used g4 based powerbook right now just so you can run Quicken and Steve Jobs rules!" Hopefully, the omission of blatant pro-Apple/RISC drivel in my post, with a soft suggestion that indeed these apps are running under the platform in question (UNIX, not Linux) was designed to temper such soft-trolling that amounts to "OS X isn't Linux" and "It doesn't run on x86", both of which quickly devolve into how cheaply the supposedly enterprising geek can build a dual athalon monster machine for the price of an Apple platform that runs comparable GNU software to the commercial application in question (which makes one wonder how many actually have performed this platform gymnastic they're so quick to advocate).
As far as answering your post, either it's a whining piece of self-answering troll, or you somehow believe that I'm privy to the OS X product roadmap. I tend towards the former, which actually suggests that you're actually unhappy with your platform (x86) choice and the commitment you made in that investment, or you wouldn't have wasted the electrons complaining. My guess is "don't hold your breath" for an x86 port. If you really want the breadth of applications and UNIX that OS X offers, then you'll likely need to save several hundred bucks for a used powerbook (Which would be an answer to your "space" issues. If you can't afford the footprint of a laptop, you need to invest in more real estate, not a new platform).
Are you more interested in the platform or the applications? You've mentioned UNIX (not Linux), but also WINE. This would suggest an uncommon desktop environment, one with less than the small fraction of a % that even Linux owns. It would be difficult to imagine that you could find financial apps for your working environment.
However, there are now several fine commercial financial applications that run on BSD UNIX via OS X. Quicken and MYOB accounting are two that I've used.
I'm sure that switching platforms now just for the application mentioned is not a particularly viable option, but if you aren't opposed to using commercial apps and want UNIX, you may consider looking into OS X at some point in the future.
DeWitt, was a very talented CEO and did great things for Cobalt.
His leaving will have absolutely NO direct effect on Open Office (there's a political assumption made by the poster that doesn't fit), and might be a good thing for Linux in Cobalt.
In fact, the sooner Sun realizes it is in a very difficult position because of x86 Linux, the better. The Cobalt appliances are overpriced and underpowered, the Cobalt line has all sorts of issues, the not the least of which is a non-standard distribution. Standard Distribution is what the customer wants, not an appliance. Linux seems to be eating Sun's lunch as much, if not more, than NT.
The Solaris faction will never allow Linux to co-exist peacefully within Sun, the SPARC faction will never adopt x86, not to mention push x86 Linux, so neither the software side nor the hardware side, politically, will ever truly adopt Linux.
Furthermore, the sales force is keen on the BIG hardware sale. No Sun sales person wants to sell a $2,000 x86 Linux box.
About the best thing you can say for Linux within Sun is there's a small amount of hope that the former iPlanet team will maintain some semblance of autonomy with regards to OS support for their software. Unfortunately, Sun marketing can't position them to gain mindshare against competing technologies, so the hope is fairly small (and I might add that the ONLY reason that iPlanet has any real non-Solaris support is because it's the Netscape Enterprise stuff).
No, Sun is not in a good position as Linux starts charging into it's space. It's already killed the small workstation market for them (mmmmm.... IPC), UNIX shops that were buying SPARC 20s in the mid 90s for IP services have mostly migrated to some "free" UNIX on x86, and now IBM is pushing big Linux iron (FYI, there was a point not too long ago when IBM Global sold more SPARC than Sun sales force.... interesting when viewing the ramifications of IBM's Linux Lovin'). I've made assumptions here about Linux being able to succeed in what's left in Sun's core space, but I'd imagine that by now IBM, Dell, and HPAQ have all realized that the sooner they are able to push x86 Linux into competition with Sun where they've reallly had little, the better. After all, to these guys, it's all about either volume (Dell) or services (IBM/HPAQ). Dell's a price point leader with good enough quality, and IBM/HPAQ realize that (at least in the "enterprise space" they both have big profitable niche's outside of where they compete with Sun and their services arm) their hardware/software efforts are simply the tools to sell more services, and if they can sell hardware/software profitably, good for those business units.
A Sun shareholder or fan can only hope that these mix ups bring about a new focus from within Sun - but frankly McNealy will have to turn the charging elephant, it'll take a heck of a turnaround with HUGE amounts of organizational change.
Counterpane only provides monitoring services. Keen if he wants someone to look at his IDS or Firewall logs.
Hello,
I ran into Microsolved ( http://www.microsolved.com ) back when I was PM for a firewall product (that's now part of Sun via Cobalt). Their resume impressed me, it included at least one State Treasury Department.
Oh, how painful. Of course, I see it now that you spell it out to me. I'm a little slow . I was also in too serious mode this AM.
Sorry.
Photo Ionisation Detectors?
My train of thought was thus: If we hop in the wayback machine to 1999....
Well, if you're, say, the CEO of Springfield Cardboard Box Co (Springfield, Springfield!). I do maybe 1,000,000 in sales and have about 15 employees, maybe 7 of which are behind a desk. You've got a simple internal network (still Novell 4, or maybe since you've made that leap to 95 and your wife's brother is a "PC guy" you have a simple SMB network. You might also have an springfieldbox@aol.com that you dial out from your desktop.
You read about this new DSL stuff, and you sunk money into Office 97 and it has this outlook thing, and you really should think about this internet thing and some slick guy tries to sell you on a website.... But you make cardboard boxes, and the only reason you trade electrons with other computers in the first place is because your brother in law set up your network BUT YOU HAVE TO GET THIS INTERNET THING NOW! Bell Canada comes along with this "high speed Internet, 20 times faster than aol". But to integrate yourself you can do one of two things. Spend the time and money to hire some M$ outfit to come drop an NT server down (Win2k and Compaq) or there's this nice bundle with this "Office Server" that you, the box guy, can hit a web page and give everyone an email address and desktop access with. It's also a file server, so with the VPN feature (that never worked) I can connect from my new Bell Canada home DSL and get that spreadsheet I want to work on this weekend.
Vaporware, yes - but all I said was that I liked the idea. At that point, an NT server was cost and expense (including maint.) that a little linux box really had an advantage over.
Is Sun still releasing new Cobalt product? I hear there's a pretty good roadmap, but since the horrific XTR release, what have they done for me lately?
It's true, Sun has a very good Security team looking out for the Cobalt product line (ex-progressive systems and Microsolved). And I've had stellar support in the past.
But, given a little insight into the sales and marketing mechanism there, you have to wonder about the "commitment" to "Linux" Sun has.
1.) Almost All of the Cobalt sales staff was let go. The regional Sun sales staff wants to work one or two sales of $xxx,xxx servers, not $x,xxx or less server products save in BIG volume (Iike a CDW).
2.) Sun channel commitment is dubious at best for the Cobalt line. Would Sun rather sell a $x,xxx Netra or a $x,xxx Cobalt box? Those T1's are getting close in price to the Cobalt line that uses less than the going speed of AMD chips.
3.) Cobalt Marketing. Since the "sales" of Cobalt boxes are now essentially "call CDW", you think they're going to go full after Win2k compaq boxes in the SMB market with Qubes? I agree with you that there's an (ahem) unexploited (ahem) market there with the opportunity to take sales away from Microsoft, but It's going to take reaching small business owners. You don't do that by not advertising and saying "call CDW" anytime someone wants to order "onsey-twosey" sales.
I hope they succeed just in that I used to know a couple of folks at the old rebel who worked too hard and had stupid management kill the company.
I mean, all that money for rebel.com and James Dean, yet it was my impression that they spent very little budget building channel and getting distributors (I'm not sure they ever got Techdata, Ingram or Merisel).
As previous posts alluded to, VPN thing was a mess. There were deals in place with vendors to try to get real (not PPTP) client server VPNs on the box. Rebel engineering understood and looked out for end user security. At the time the use of Strong Arm and the lack of mature VPN technology really hurt their efforts, though (and the deals they were asking the VPN vendors for). Later, it's my understanding that they actually made nifty Free S/WAN boxes.
It'll be interesting to see if this company can revive the "cute little office server" market. Cobalt Product Management and the Sun purchase has essentially run the Qube product into the ground. It was interesting to see Sun's public "commitment" to "Linux" when the Cobalt BU has been so ignored (let's just say that integration into the sales mix didn't go to well, and casulties in the first Sun layoffs included most of Cobalt Sales and Marketing).
Combine the loss of sales interest from Sun with a total lack of new product releases and feature sets from the Cobalt line, and you have to hurt for those who really believe in the Cobalt products. Because while it's nice to have an "appliance" product, I'm not sure I want to spend Cobalt pricing for an AMD 450 with a tiny hard drive or two when I can build a pretty nice server myself for the money.
I also liked the Rebel.Net idea. Ok, maybe not the name, but bundling a Netwinder as a SOHO/SMB server with DSL service seemed like a real value and a way help those businesses not have to spend extra $$ on Win2k and Compaq hardware.
I hope that the new company will continue to use an x86 architecture, and that they'll find a better quality hardware source. With the excuse that most of my experience with the Netwinders were pre-release units, they did tend to rattle and hum at times (maybe it wasn't the hardware but the shipping box?!).
I really had respect for the software engineering side that Rebel had.
And every day I'm thankful that Linux supports that investment I made in my 286 15 years ago.
.org. They might actually have a use for it.
Seriously, It's time to sell the IIfx on ebay to some idiot who thinks his "Mac Collection" will be worth something someday. Better yet, part the thing out (esp. the RAM and any nubus ethernet cards you might have) and sell them to some moron who wants to use his IIfx to play Pirates! or use it as a a really flaky Linux router.
Better yet, donate it to a third world country or
And those pre-G3 nubus powermacs that aren't supported by any Apple Unix? You can use Apple-sponsered MkLinux on them.
Not trying to take one side or another, but I'd like to point out that an "anonymous reader" submitted this story.
I guess that would be an "anonymous reader" who just happened to surf over to her personal website and came across her account and tied it in nicely to the previous slashdot article and decided to submit this.
I guess then, davmoo, that both sides are using the guise of anonymity to make "negative comments" (negative, of course from the VCs point of view - there are several sides to every story, no?).
Why is this offtopic? The poster is just making a point about M$, Security and why Longhorn has a "Scary future ahead" Thus the topic of this thread.
In fact, you could read this to say that the scary future is already here.
This shouldn't be moded offtopic.
Actually, that one's pretty easy. Intel wants p2p to be big, too. Why? Because they want people to buy bigger and badder PCs. You'll need all that OS/hard drive/Processor to do p2p computing.
At some point someone might just make an actual "thin client" because traditional Interent applications (email, browsing, etc.) and many business functions can be light client/heavy server apps. These apps don't need big Pentium 6's running at 10 ghz. They also don't need a 2 GB OS. So P2P is a PC "killer app". The sooner client/server computing is moved towards p2p in terms of horsepower, the better for the Duopoly.
Aqua is a little slow, yes, but "terrible"? Compared to what, X Windows?
Please Emmitt, please write a full feature!!!!
It would be so important to not only the Open Source community, but to the whole IT industry.
"We're APES, people!
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Whoa! That was the first time I've laughed at a non-troll post in the last few months of
Whew!
If you went to, say, one of the Napster/Metallica threads, cut and paste this story in, how do you think it would be moderated?
Looks suspicously like those "Jews rule the world" posts you see all the time.
Of course, I didn't take time to read the article much, once I saw Katz re-define a term.
Hey, I redefine corporation to mean "fuzzy blue duck" and republic to mean "timex watch" for the 21st century, because everything is so wonderfully post-modern. Now write an article.