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I have to disagree with you. I think that the heart of what your idea wants to accomplish is already being done by the different distributions of Linux. However, sharing a common kernel and low level object model is essential. Put all of the effort into making one "best of" Linux, but not by writing dozens of different versions and merging code, design it correctly from the ground up (like it always has been) and stick to it.
I love how Gore's being painted as a horrible villian in all this. Can you honestly say any politician would act any differently given the circumstances? No, you cannot.
I don't think anybody claimed Bush wouldn't do this. Maybe it's a flaw in all (and i say all only because you say "any") politicians. Point taken but irrelevant.
This election we had a choice between a scum of the earth liar and an idiot that hasn't even mastered the English language (listen to his speeches, he can't even use the verbs of being correctly 90% of the time).
Good thing you didn't run for president. You aren't much better, though admittedly, you didn't claim to be.
I agree with you that no matter who is elected, LOTS of people are going to be unhappy. Where are you getting this info on our economy being due for a decline though? That sounds like some fairly heavy extrapolation to me. Guess we'll have to see though. Do you have any links with statistics of our nation that imply this? Maybe I should move soon:)
While I personally wouldn't dream of using any editor but emacs or textpad for writing HTML, some coworkers of mine simply refuse to learn HTML and so rely on several different editors, DW, FP, NO Fusion, etc.
I think that the problem with these editors is people not understanding the basic makeup of a marked up document, the concept of tables, layers, etc that the editor implements for you. To test out this thought, I took the site that a coworker made in Netobjects Fusion. The source was hideous... tables with incredibly complex insides, redundant usage of bgcolor tags.
Since I don't really know the nuances of the editor, I sat down with said coworker and I instructed how I would make that site in Netobjects Fusion, basically how you break down the site into nested tables and set bgcolors and widths as rarely as possible. At one point a placement mistake was made and the coworker just tried to drag the image to the right place. We did it her way first and then undid it and replaced it correctly without DND and compared code. The DND version had added almost 300 extra characters to the page. When it was all said and done, the code for the new version was GORGEOUS. No HTML tweaking, and really no knowledge of HTML at all other than a few simple layout rules.
So basically, I find editors such as FrontPage to be a crutch for those that don't have time to do it right, but with the right mindset and a little knowledge of how HTML works, a nice site is still possible.
But you can't outrun native code, no matter how good your universal language is.
That is usually the case, very true, but cases do exist where interpreted code (or byte compiled interpretation like java) has performed just as good or better. This article illustrates that better than I can say it in a reasonable amount of words. It all comes down to just how parallel the java instructions in the bytecode are to the native instruction set of the underlying processor, and the ability of the jvm to remove its own overhead.
You're loading MSIE when you boot up Windows. You have no choice. If Netscape was able to leverage Windows in the same manner with the Gecko engine, we'd all be in heaven.
Are you really? or is that what MS says to avoid legal trouble? Wine will run IE 4 and IE 5, both of which are claimed to be embedded. I don't believe it. Perhaps it's embedded some, what MS product isn't, but it's far from being a siamese twin with Windows.
Please say what you really mean: your company is not going to support the HTML standards
IE is more standards compliant than NS 4.x simply because they release new versions more often that comply to new standards. Sure, when NS 4 came out, it supported the standards, but the world has changed since then. You'll see that both browsers add on extra elements to DOM/CSS/Javascript/HTML but when they are released, they both pretty much follow the standards as closely as possible.
I am using Mozilla right now and think that it's coming along nicely. However, if there is one app I want from MS in linux, it's IE, and that's because it IS standards compliant, is updated frequently, is free, and runs fairly fast without being integrated into the OS as tightly as they'd have you think.
They have to make money somehow, and they don't have OS or office suite cash cows to support the browser as a loss leader, so they have to recognize some revenue somehow
Um, last time I heard, AOL was bigger than all other US based ISP's combined, and their prices aren't going down any time soon. How's THAT for a cash cow to milk along Netscape?
i wonder how much this announcement is in response to redhat's decision to cease to release their sparc-based distribution. anyways, it's good to see one of the big linux distributions supporting sun hardware, i for one don't like paying for solaris.
Any current processor that you buy for a pc is going to have a FPU that is good enough to do what a game needs. Intel has had good floating point support since the original Pentiums, and AMD has also with the the Athlon and anything newer. If you get a processor that doesn't have a good FPU, you didn't get a new processor, you bought an unused old one. bud.
And who in their right, left, or anywhere IN their minds sets the desktop to, or plays games at 16 bit?
You may as well do 8 bit monochrome.
Show me 32 bit, or don't bother doing it.
i'm sorry to have to tell you this, but LOTS of people set their desktops at 16 bit and play games with it too, and THEY'RE NOT CRAZY! 8bit monochrome is undebatably much worse than 16 bit color, but most people don't even notice the diff between 32 and 16 unless the banding effects are pointed out to them. i'll take the fps bump and stick with 16 bit color for now - quake II won't play at 32 bpp anyways.
unreal is a glide game at heart. try putting your killer video card in your brother's pIII system - it'll blow your benchmarks away UNLESS your card is the bottleneck, in which case your point means nothing. still, using unreal as a test is a little unfair as anything 3dfx will always thrash it's nearest competition - not so in a true openGL app.
as for an additional FP processor... you are living in the wrong millenium bud.
why is the parent mod'd up? not that my comment is helping, but really people... if you don't mod it up, then it stays at the bottom where it belongs (like my posts) and posts with real content get brought to the front.
the potential security nightmare from releasing the napster client code is terrifying. let's see here, millions of clients, lots of bandwidth, and a program that blindly sends files around and launches other programs to use said datafiles.
all it takes is one clever exploit and every client running on win9x suddenly has a BIG problem. i'm for open source software as much as anybody else, but i shudder to think of what could happen with this situation.
network interface card card. somehow, that seems like a silly name to refer to a type of hardware which you supposedly stress test. hint: what is the pci bus limiting you to? therein lies your nic card problems.
you missed his point. the purpose of student visas was to give this opportunity. whether or not this is the practice is a different story, which you pointed out rather well.
i agree with the post you responded to. student visas are here to give opportunity to less-fortunate to help their homeland and ultimately the world. the fact that this is failing because of who comes and where they want to stay afterwards is reason for reform IMHO.
as a potential olympic athlete, i'm outraged. i didn't skip out of training to spend all this time working on my GPL'd mysql/php blog backend for nothing did i?
unless you're in a term window in which case u *better* be using SHIFT+INS to paste. if apple makes CONTROL+V paste in console, i'm not sure how i could could go on living. as for the middle mouse button, well, who uses mice anyways when not playing quake? certainly not me...
statistics are almost always twisted to show one side of an argument. but yet, i wonder why this developer didn't show us some of his own numbers rather than just discussing how unfair the previous benchmarks were. i'd really like to see the developers of the major SQL compliant db's submit what they would like to see in a benchmark and then agree on a test set.
if this accomplishes nothing else, and i hope it does lots, it should at least get me a standard for apps and widget sets to use for a common clipboard. this has bothered me for the longest time and can really cut down on productivity. i'd make it first priority to all apps:)
it's not like the map format will be handled any differently than past id products. if a company wants to make a tool that happens to be able to create files that are compatible with id's games, they haven't done anything wrong (have they?) unless they reversed engineered a program that was covered by id's EULA.
the issue sooner or later won't be do we need that much speed, but rather, how many cpu's will we cram together in parallel to get it. ultimately, we will reach limits where the cost of finding ways to engineer faster processors will grow too big and people will have to think in terms of the number of processors they can efficiently use together, not how fast one chip will be.
imitate ie? no thank you. netscape's early dominance was because they were the best of a relatively small number of browsers. internet explorer is more popular today because it is the best of a relatively small number of browsers (i can think of 5 that really get used). when ie imitated ns3, it was unintentional, as ns3 was almost completely standards compliant for it's day.
the best thing netscape can do is develop a fast, stable, standards compliant browser. mozilla is on the right track, but they made a crucial mistake when they decided to render the UI in gecko rather than with seperate api's for the operating system. by pulling for portability, they have sacrificed stability and speed. it almost seems to me that we'd have mozilla already if they had given up on their own UI and created a ui for the popular platforms. that would give us speed, and stability, and i doubt it would have taken as long in the end anyways.
I don't care for either ie's or the existing ns's document object model over the other as long as they both work! neither one has any glaring bugs in the HTML rendering and both have good plugin/multimedia support. so just make one run fast, stable, and comply to the standards - at no charge of course:)
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I don't think anybody claimed Bush wouldn't do this. Maybe it's a flaw in all (and i say all only because you say "any") politicians. Point taken but irrelevant.
This election we had a choice between a scum of the earth liar and an idiot that hasn't even mastered the English language (listen to his speeches, he can't even use the verbs of being correctly 90% of the time).
Good thing you didn't run for president. You aren't much better, though admittedly, you didn't claim to be.
I agree with you that no matter who is elected, LOTS of people are going to be unhappy. Where are you getting this info on our economy being due for a decline though? That sounds like some fairly heavy extrapolation to me. Guess we'll have to see though. Do you have any links with statistics of our nation that imply this? Maybe I should move soon :)
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I think that the problem with these editors is people not understanding the basic makeup of a marked up document, the concept of tables, layers, etc that the editor implements for you. To test out this thought, I took the site that a coworker made in Netobjects Fusion. The source was hideous... tables with incredibly complex insides, redundant usage of bgcolor tags.
Since I don't really know the nuances of the editor, I sat down with said coworker and I instructed how I would make that site in Netobjects Fusion, basically how you break down the site into nested tables and set bgcolors and widths as rarely as possible. At one point a placement mistake was made and the coworker just tried to drag the image to the right place. We did it her way first and then undid it and replaced it correctly without DND and compared code. The DND version had added almost 300 extra characters to the page. When it was all said and done, the code for the new version was GORGEOUS. No HTML tweaking, and really no knowledge of HTML at all other than a few simple layout rules.
So basically, I find editors such as FrontPage to be a crutch for those that don't have time to do it right, but with the right mindset and a little knowledge of how HTML works, a nice site is still possible.
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That is usually the case, very true, but cases do exist where interpreted code (or byte compiled interpretation like java) has performed just as good or better. This article illustrates that better than I can say it in a reasonable amount of words. It all comes down to just how parallel the java instructions in the bytecode are to the native instruction set of the underlying processor, and the ability of the jvm to remove its own overhead.
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Are you really? or is that what MS says to avoid legal trouble? Wine will run IE 4 and IE 5, both of which are claimed to be embedded. I don't believe it. Perhaps it's embedded some, what MS product isn't, but it's far from being a siamese twin with Windows.
Please say what you really mean: your company is not going to support the HTML standards
IE is more standards compliant than NS 4.x simply because they release new versions more often that comply to new standards. Sure, when NS 4 came out, it supported the standards, but the world has changed since then. You'll see that both browsers add on extra elements to DOM/CSS/Javascript/HTML but when they are released, they both pretty much follow the standards as closely as possible.
I am using Mozilla right now and think that it's coming along nicely. However, if there is one app I want from MS in linux, it's IE, and that's because it IS standards compliant, is updated frequently, is free, and runs fairly fast without being integrated into the OS as tightly as they'd have you think.
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Um, last time I heard, AOL was bigger than all other US based ISP's combined, and their prices aren't going down any time soon. How's THAT for a cash cow to milk along Netscape?
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Any current processor that you buy for a pc is going to have a FPU that is good enough to do what a game needs. Intel has had good floating point support since the original Pentiums, and AMD has also with the the Athlon and anything newer. If you get a processor that doesn't have a good FPU, you didn't get a new processor, you bought an unused old one. bud.
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You may as well do 8 bit monochrome.
Show me 32 bit, or don't bother doing it.
i'm sorry to have to tell you this, but LOTS of people set their desktops at 16 bit and play games with it too, and THEY'RE NOT CRAZY! 8bit monochrome is undebatably much worse than 16 bit color, but most people don't even notice the diff between 32 and 16 unless the banding effects are pointed out to them. i'll take the fps bump and stick with 16 bit color for now - quake II won't play at 32 bpp anyways.
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as for an additional FP processor... you are living in the wrong millenium bud.
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the best thing netscape can do is develop a fast, stable, standards compliant browser. mozilla is on the right track, but they made a crucial mistake when they decided to render the UI in gecko rather than with seperate api's for the operating system. by pulling for portability, they have sacrificed stability and speed. it almost seems to me that we'd have mozilla already if they had given up on their own UI and created a ui for the popular platforms. that would give us speed, and stability, and i doubt it would have taken as long in the end anyways.
I don't care for either ie's or the existing ns's document object model over the other as long as they both work! neither one has any glaring bugs in the HTML rendering and both have good plugin/multimedia support. so just make one run fast, stable, and comply to the standards - at no charge of course :)
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