The world had the skills to track the eradication globally of smallpox. So some skill to track the more interesting medical issues had to exist at that time per city, state, within the USA federally.
I was really hoping for autopsy policy, costs per state, city, ability to request different lab work if any. Did a medical autopsy get requested if the hospital paperwork covered for the reporting?
Was an autopsy reserved for mostly police and court work as policy and not medical research as it would question treatment issues?
If outsiders don't look for issues, a teaching hospital never mades mistakes and the self signed paperwork is all that is needed?
So I was hoping for some insights into the lack of lab work. A no autopsy policy? Lack of lab funding? Lack of staff skills? Has the policy changed?
its time to track yet more types transactions with your brand as PRISM did?
Removing more anonymity and privacy and replacing it with more currency transaction reporting, suspicious activity reporting and monetary instrument logs.
If firmware upgrades are that networked, malware will seek the same pathway in and re update all found devices rather than just swarm networking output.
Get AV brands, free and pay to scan every device on the local network by default. Test with all expected passwords and report on junk apps and hardware.
Ban the IoT apps from cell phones and desktops so users are forced to upgrade, buy new or cant network with a power on.
Re 'Oh it was a weird time."
Thats what I am trying to get someone with some 1970's insider medical knowledge to expand on. Was it a lack of reporting? Test got no funding so nobody could request more lab work? Was it an issue with autopsy skill, lack of funding for more tests or lack of any clear heath related autopsy reporting policy? What where the top teaching hospitals doing and their experts who should have been open to something new. New things make great book chapters and ensure more funding.
Was any testing and academic ability blocked due to funding or policy? Have US public health professionals actually learned as institutions from such restrictive policy issues?
Or has bureaucracy and politics made US public health research even more weird internally?
Let see how many -1 down votes per second this will get:
In the early 1970's most people still liked been middle class or liked to keep good values. Good old values from the past still carried some hold on good people in the wider population on average.
People got married and had mortgages or saved for a home, faced economic down turns, the Vietnam war, draft issues and work was a worry. Jet transport was not for all. Not many got a passport. University needed real skills, money. A full scholarship based on tested merit over a good academic life ensured poor gifted students stayed good. The wealthy stayed with the wealthy and poor would not risk a scholarship with actions that would remove that limited funding. University was for study and only for the very, very best or as a given rite of passage for the wealthy.
To get good work you had to present well and have no local issues. If better work was found a background investigation would show any issues and uncover local gossip or police reports. Reputation in a middle class community was everything and the pathway to much better pay.
Happy more local, isolated, productive people who stayed together. Life and fun stayed in the same local area and with people of the same social strata and wealth. Been seen with a wealthy or very poor person risked gossip.
The WW2 values still had a hold on culture decades later, people had faith and enjoyed been part of their nice, clean, happy local communities. Most of that can be seen in data collected over the decades. Movies and music would have presented a wild, counter culture side to sell but that took time to really change everything.
Over later years norms changed and the results can be seen in universities and places of work around the USA in later decades.
Re "and the media has never reported it that way? "
Big national media in the US reported to a few well controlled brands with a lot of local media staying very local. Ad revenue was everything. Who wanted a respected brand worth decades of ads next to a story about health? If the national media did not report it, a science or health issue did not get much traction.
Science was positive, good, happy and productive. Getting a cancer cure was the health news. Massive new US gov funding was going to finally help after decades of limited charity work. Space or military was the tech news. Escapist fantasy the fiction.
Local media, talk back radio stayed local and fun. Vietnam war reporting was the big test early in the 1970's and did change things, but that was political/war/funding/upper middle class draft, not health.
No vast internet to share with, some smarter local reporters with good medical contacts would have picked up on something, but with small readerships.
Not everyone is on average so healthy and would get that easy 10 years. So some early cases should have presented given the average spread of the wider population. Poverty, work conditions, poor nutrition could all play a part not having above average health.
Re "and so on and so on looking for the needle in the haystack." thats the idea of having great public health experts.
Any local Dr can work with what they see all day everyday.
The curiosity and follow up is what sets the really smart experts apart from the average. So what was holding them back from doing their jobs and reporting?
What where the best and brightest US pathologists and epidemiologists doing for a decade?
With all the science grants and funding for cancer and the chemical/bio weapons treaty funding mix changes, what happened to basic public health reporting in the USA?
Did no doctor not report strange new issues? Did no pathologists not have the feeling a book chapter might be before them or funding to chase?
Did no public health official or health bureaucrats not have some map or database of interesting cases that got reported and think to follow up?
Was public health funding so cut back in 1970-1980 to risk public health? Was cancer the only issue getting extra US funding thanks to lobbyists and the party connected?
Where was the academic curiosity? Autopsies, slides? Rare conditions not often seen? What was it about the Vietnam war decade and a few years later that ensured US academics missed a really basic and interesting public health issue?
The really great staff now have to look after the average new staff. With less of the really great staff getting real work done, issues start to be seen in public.
The more layer of machines that get sold to each site. All needing workers, on going repairs, upgrades and support. No bid security contracts just keep the cash flowing.
What is the first thing smart criminals, corrupt police, private detectives and the press will do?
Hack it and get the background stories to each person. Create a reason for a face to face interview with real details from the initial police contact.
If they saw something its a great story or information to sell.
The UK tried to keep digital secrets about case work in the past and the files got sold to anyone with cash in real time.
"Journalists caught on tape in police bugging" (21 September 2002 ) https://www.theguardian.com/uk...
"Tabloid journalists were caught on tape by a police surveillance operation obtaining information from a private detective agency which in turn paid corrupt officers for confidential police material."
The access to any witness material in digital form should be air gapped, not networked with telcos. Telco staff with access are just as corrupt or cult members or criminal or have cash flow issues to help with as any other member of the wider public and would sell or give such contact lists.
Re "No state sponsored organisation would have wasted their offensive attack resources like this."
Unless the state sponsored organisation has staff in the private sector and could ensure new standards of encryption got pushed.
Standards of encryption that they as the "protector" of crypto got to design or test. Every device would then be more secure but totally open to the security services thanks to suggested upgrades after "scripts"
That would clear up the risk of a lot of bespoke, in house and unique real crypto floating around.
Just get a lot of new gov trapdoors and backdoors back into the private sector during the rush to help.
Wait for the upgrades and the offer of help with a nice request of access with a "I'm from the US government and I'm here to help with crypto."
That says more to the design, staff skills and robustness of systems protecting trillions of dollars in transactions.
The security of IoT is designed to allow any user to connect to wifi or the app on a phone without needing to call support or find some paper in the box with a unique user name and password.
Or spend hours online trying to search a make and version to find its "admin" or "password"
State actors just get their spies into federal gov, mil and clandestine services every generation.
Been deep undercover the main aim would be to gather intel but never send it back, wait for a go code and try to sway policy and public option as they rise up the ranks.
Very different from a swarm of IoT without build up or other expected political aspects. A loss of top tier names/brands would be inconvenient for a few while.
State actors would layer that with a US classic Colour revolution https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Well funded NGO's, civil society and tame political leaders would be out demanding change over some hyped or induced outrage.
Constant international news coverage, charismatic new leaders getting global interview time, a slogan, art work, endless funding for sock puppets to push the new reality.
vs just a loss of top tier names/brands.
If POTS, dsl and coax was good enough to make a 911 call and surf the net why spend generational shareholders wealth on anything?
Long term the only way out is another utility with legal access to offer anyone new network, city/community or better access laws.
Too many monopolies, regions with only one telco, or strange telcos that stay away and don't network each others areas.
Look at the history of Russia. Surrounded by invaders. Peter the Great had to work to stop constant invasions and tried to trade with the world.
Nordic royals tried to get deep into Russia. Then Germany. England in 1918 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.... Germany again in the 1940's. Constant US and UK overflights and other incursions after WW2.
US Jupiter missiles and later US air-launched cruise missiles in the 1980's.
Re "Why would anyone invest the resources in developing such a weapon?"
Such systems are legal and keep fascist and neocons out.
Or create think tanks and campuses globally to attract really smart staff and design globally with the very best.
Its not a consumer issue, really great staff would have predicted an emerging downturn and been ready to make a profit in any market conditions.
A great company needs skilled staff to design the future not provide happy work to average staff today.
A company top heavy with a policy of been inclusive and hire average staff cant be great with ever fewer really skilled staff.
Fix software and hardware issues. Make sure they never happen again. If a project leader or team cant get results, find staff who can based on merit.
If the US cant educate great workers, design the packaging in the USA and the marketing on each box is still usable.
It really depends on what is still kept working for such devices. Readers might recall the US and the Galaxy IV issue when it was discovered that one network was the pager network. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Hope that everyone needed has a sat phone, the pager device is very different now and the POTS works:)
AC the hunt for a "specific digital symbol" could be crypto. Use *any* crypto and expect it to be found by the US gov. They may not able to get plain text but they have ip's and can work on the sender or recipient to see if plain text exists.
In the US you can get that way up in the federal system
Conviction rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
"For 2012, the US Department of Justice reported a 93% conviction rate."
What spoofing? A nuclear shift is called back to work at night due to the night shift having issues. Thats the text. Night shift if its daytime.
The staff know to get to work without delay and help with an issue.
Most staff also got a POTS phone that was only to be used for work in many related areas with unique skills. The phone rings, a message is given, drive to work.
Re "by ignoring warnings they think were cancelled"
The only code is to drive to work to help the night or day shift if the work POTS or pager is used.
Most of the reactors are in the US are so old its generational and the staff live local. On the days off or night off, its only going to be one type of call.
When the staff get to work they can be told face to face whats going on or to stand down. The pager only has one function, to get staff in.
Contract crews with remote sites all over the USA will have a provided sat phone and talk to staff they know to get clear understanding of tasks in their own industries. i.e. thats more than a reactor site to drive to.
Re 'Stop reversing the order of that because then it makes no sense."
The mission is to make spying read as been not illegal.
The more words that are used in a big submission and hints like "foreign power" make it sound more legal and distract from the vast illegal domestic spying.
Terms like "declassified version" hints that it had oversight and was Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act like and all very legal.
The "order was issued" under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act is more about preventing domestic legal teams and protected whistleblowers getting domestic traction and press.
All data was sorted and it was legal due to all the foreigners and been an "order" any domestic Fourth Amendment protections get removed.
Its not domestic spying when its presented as "data-collection activities".
Think of matching a "specific digital symbol" as a very foreign emoji that only interesting foreigners would use and its not domestic spying.
Remember its all legal as the color of law will reauthorise some foreign intelligence authorities again soon.
Use enough parapgraphs and domestic spying is totally legal under color of law and if it was an order.
AC re "At least I can use encryption"
The encryption offered by big US brands reverts back to plain text to help the US gov.
Recall the help in PRISM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
"Prism collects this data prior to encryption"
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The world had the skills to track the eradication globally of smallpox. So some skill to track the more interesting medical issues had to exist at that time per city, state, within the USA federally.
I was really hoping for autopsy policy, costs per state, city, ability to request different lab work if any. Did a medical autopsy get requested if the hospital paperwork covered for the reporting?
Was an autopsy reserved for mostly police and court work as policy and not medical research as it would question treatment issues?
If outsiders don't look for issues, a teaching hospital never mades mistakes and the self signed paperwork is all that is needed?
So I was hoping for some insights into the lack of lab work. A no autopsy policy? Lack of lab funding? Lack of staff skills? Has the policy changed?
its time to track yet more types transactions with your brand as PRISM did?
Removing more anonymity and privacy and replacing it with more currency transaction reporting, suspicious activity reporting and monetary instrument logs.
If firmware upgrades are that networked, malware will seek the same pathway in and re update all found devices rather than just swarm networking output.
Get AV brands, free and pay to scan every device on the local network by default. Test with all expected passwords and report on junk apps and hardware.
Ban the IoT apps from cell phones and desktops so users are forced to upgrade, buy new or cant network with a power on.
Re 'Oh it was a weird time."
Thats what I am trying to get someone with some 1970's insider medical knowledge to expand on. Was it a lack of reporting? Test got no funding so nobody could request more lab work? Was it an issue with autopsy skill, lack of funding for more tests or lack of any clear heath related autopsy reporting policy? What where the top teaching hospitals doing and their experts who should have been open to something new. New things make great book chapters and ensure more funding.
Was any testing and academic ability blocked due to funding or policy? Have US public health professionals actually learned as institutions from such restrictive policy issues?
Or has bureaucracy and politics made US public health research even more weird internally?
Let see how many -1 down votes per second this will get:
In the early 1970's most people still liked been middle class or liked to keep good values. Good old values from the past still carried some hold on good people in the wider population on average.
People got married and had mortgages or saved for a home, faced economic down turns, the Vietnam war, draft issues and work was a worry. Jet transport was not for all. Not many got a passport. University needed real skills, money. A full scholarship based on tested merit over a good academic life ensured poor gifted students stayed good. The wealthy stayed with the wealthy and poor would not risk a scholarship with actions that would remove that limited funding. University was for study and only for the very, very best or as a given rite of passage for the wealthy.
To get good work you had to present well and have no local issues. If better work was found a background investigation would show any issues and uncover local gossip or police reports. Reputation in a middle class community was everything and the pathway to much better pay.
Happy more local, isolated, productive people who stayed together. Life and fun stayed in the same local area and with people of the same social strata and wealth. Been seen with a wealthy or very poor person risked gossip.
The WW2 values still had a hold on culture decades later, people had faith and enjoyed been part of their nice, clean, happy local communities. Most of that can be seen in data collected over the decades. Movies and music would have presented a wild, counter culture side to sell but that took time to really change everything.
Over later years norms changed and the results can be seen in universities and places of work around the USA in later decades.
Re "and the media has never reported it that way? "
Big national media in the US reported to a few well controlled brands with a lot of local media staying very local. Ad revenue was everything. Who wanted a respected brand worth decades of ads next to a story about health? If the national media did not report it, a science or health issue did not get much traction.
Science was positive, good, happy and productive. Getting a cancer cure was the health news. Massive new US gov funding was going to finally help after decades of limited charity work. Space or military was the tech news. Escapist fantasy the fiction.
Local media, talk back radio stayed local and fun. Vietnam war reporting was the big test early in the 1970's and did change things, but that was political/war/funding/upper middle class draft, not health.
No vast internet to share with, some smarter local reporters with good medical contacts would have picked up on something, but with small readerships.
Not everyone is on average so healthy and would get that easy 10 years. So some early cases should have presented given the average spread of the wider population. Poverty, work conditions, poor nutrition could all play a part not having above average health.
Re "and so on and so on looking for the needle in the haystack." thats the idea of having great public health experts.
Any local Dr can work with what they see all day everyday.
The curiosity and follow up is what sets the really smart experts apart from the average. So what was holding them back from doing their jobs and reporting?
What where the best and brightest US pathologists and epidemiologists doing for a decade?
With all the science grants and funding for cancer and the chemical/bio weapons treaty funding mix changes, what happened to basic public health reporting in the USA?
Did no doctor not report strange new issues? Did no pathologists not have the feeling a book chapter might be before them or funding to chase?
Did no public health official or health bureaucrats not have some map or database of interesting cases that got reported and think to follow up?
Was public health funding so cut back in 1970-1980 to risk public health? Was cancer the only issue getting extra US funding thanks to lobbyists and the party connected?
Where was the academic curiosity? Autopsies, slides? Rare conditions not often seen? What was it about the Vietnam war decade and a few years later that ensured US academics missed a really basic and interesting public health issue?
The really great staff now have to look after the average new staff. With less of the really great staff getting real work done, issues start to be seen in public.
The more layer of machines that get sold to each site. All needing workers, on going repairs, upgrades and support. No bid security contracts just keep the cash flowing.
What is the first thing smart criminals, corrupt police, private detectives and the press will do?
Hack it and get the background stories to each person. Create a reason for a face to face interview with real details from the initial police contact.
If they saw something its a great story or information to sell.
The UK tried to keep digital secrets about case work in the past and the files got sold to anyone with cash in real time.
"Journalists caught on tape in police bugging" (21 September 2002 )
https://www.theguardian.com/uk...
"Tabloid journalists were caught on tape by a police surveillance operation obtaining information from a private detective agency which in turn paid corrupt officers for confidential police material."
The access to any witness material in digital form should be air gapped, not networked with telcos. Telco staff with access are just as corrupt or cult members or criminal or have cash flow issues to help with as any other member of the wider public and would sell or give such contact lists.
Re "No state sponsored organisation would have wasted their offensive attack resources like this."
Unless the state sponsored organisation has staff in the private sector and could ensure new standards of encryption got pushed.
Standards of encryption that they as the "protector" of crypto got to design or test. Every device would then be more secure but totally open to the security services thanks to suggested upgrades after "scripts"
That would clear up the risk of a lot of bespoke, in house and unique real crypto floating around.
Just get a lot of new gov trapdoors and backdoors back into the private sector during the rush to help.
Wait for the upgrades and the offer of help with a nice request of access with a "I'm from the US government and I'm here to help with crypto."
That says more to the design, staff skills and robustness of systems protecting trillions of dollars in transactions.
The security of IoT is designed to allow any user to connect to wifi or the app on a phone without needing to call support or find some paper in the box with a unique user name and password.
Or spend hours online trying to search a make and version to find its "admin" or "password"
State actors just get their spies into federal gov, mil and clandestine services every generation.
Been deep undercover the main aim would be to gather intel but never send it back, wait for a go code and try to sway policy and public option as they rise up the ranks.
Very different from a swarm of IoT without build up or other expected political aspects. A loss of top tier names/brands would be inconvenient for a few while.
State actors would layer that with a US classic Colour revolution https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Well funded NGO's, civil society and tame political leaders would be out demanding change over some hyped or induced outrage.
Constant international news coverage, charismatic new leaders getting global interview time, a slogan, art work, endless funding for sock puppets to push the new reality.
vs just a loss of top tier names/brands.
If POTS, dsl and coax was good enough to make a 911 call and surf the net why spend generational shareholders wealth on anything?
Long term the only way out is another utility with legal access to offer anyone new network, city/community or better access laws.
Too many monopolies, regions with only one telco, or strange telcos that stay away and don't network each others areas.
As the AC mentioned, the problem would then be one fake call out to all staff and it would be fixed.
Look at the history of Russia. Surrounded by invaders. Peter the Great had to work to stop constant invasions and tried to trade with the world.
Nordic royals tried to get deep into Russia. Then Germany. England in 1918 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.... Germany again in the 1940's.
Constant US and UK overflights and other incursions after WW2.
US Jupiter missiles and later US air-launched cruise missiles in the 1980's.
Re "Why would anyone invest the resources in developing such a weapon?"
Such systems are legal and keep fascist and neocons out.
Or create think tanks and campuses globally to attract really smart staff and design globally with the very best.
Its not a consumer issue, really great staff would have predicted an emerging downturn and been ready to make a profit in any market conditions.
A great company needs skilled staff to design the future not provide happy work to average staff today.
A company top heavy with a policy of been inclusive and hire average staff cant be great with ever fewer really skilled staff.
Fix software and hardware issues. Make sure they never happen again. If a project leader or team cant get results, find staff who can based on merit.
If the US cant educate great workers, design the packaging in the USA and the marketing on each box is still usable.
It really depends on what is still kept working for such devices. Readers might recall the US and the Galaxy IV issue when it was discovered that one network was the pager network. :)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Hope that everyone needed has a sat phone, the pager device is very different now and the POTS works
Default to guilt and then look for any strange "not guilty" outlier in every case to really seem accurate.
AC the hunt for a "specific digital symbol" could be crypto. Use *any* crypto and expect it to be found by the US gov. They may not able to get plain text but they have ip's and can work on the sender or recipient to see if plain text exists.
In the US you can get that way up in the federal system
Conviction rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
"For 2012, the US Department of Justice reported a 93% conviction rate."
What spoofing? A nuclear shift is called back to work at night due to the night shift having issues. Thats the text. Night shift if its daytime.
The staff know to get to work without delay and help with an issue.
Most staff also got a POTS phone that was only to be used for work in many related areas with unique skills. The phone rings, a message is given, drive to work. Re "by ignoring warnings they think were cancelled"
The only code is to drive to work to help the night or day shift if the work POTS or pager is used.
Most of the reactors are in the US are so old its generational and the staff live local. On the days off or night off, its only going to be one type of call.
When the staff get to work they can be told face to face whats going on or to stand down. The pager only has one function, to get staff in.
Contract crews with remote sites all over the USA will have a provided sat phone and talk to staff they know to get clear understanding of tasks in their own industries. i.e. thats more than a reactor site to drive to.
Re 'Stop reversing the order of that because then it makes no sense."
The mission is to make spying read as been not illegal.
The more words that are used in a big submission and hints like "foreign power" make it sound more legal and distract from the vast illegal domestic spying.
Terms like "declassified version" hints that it had oversight and was Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act like and all very legal.
The "order was issued" under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act is more about preventing domestic legal teams and protected whistleblowers getting domestic traction and press.
All data was sorted and it was legal due to all the foreigners and been an "order" any domestic Fourth Amendment protections get removed.
Its not domestic spying when its presented as "data-collection activities".
Think of matching a "specific digital symbol" as a very foreign emoji that only interesting foreigners would use and its not domestic spying.
Remember its all legal as the color of law will reauthorise some foreign intelligence authorities again soon.
Use enough parapgraphs and domestic spying is totally legal under color of law and if it was an order.
AC re "At least I can use encryption"
The encryption offered by big US brands reverts back to plain text to help the US gov.
Recall the help in PRISM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
"Prism collects this data prior to encryption"