Re "Slippery Slope meet the Australian Government. This is going to be a wild ride all the way down."
Yes the tracking of ip and files would be legal.
The linking of an ip found to an isp and account would be legal.
Sending a letter would be legal.
Requesting who got the letters as part of discovery would be a free reverse look up to start finding accounts and files.
Every step of keeping a web history would be legal for the security services, police to any court requesting or allowing discovery on the letters sent.
Any ip from a isp in Australia connected to any file of interest could result in a real time database for later review.
Time for a good VPN.
Re "that sattelite and was thus was committed to slashing the cost of communications in Africa"
All the fees and peering costs would have been lost from big brands that just expect that cash flow.
So the good projects that give Africa independence get stopped.
Russia had its N1, Buran or Angara projects. The US also had its own ideas about it can put into LEO.
Few nations have the skills or budgets. China will take its time like India and get every part of the production lines working well.
Then the next generation can build on that. Other nations just spend on huge projects and have to start again.
If "China is using all the R&D created" then China would have faced the same issues other nations faced when the flow of information gets too expensive to just copy. China like India has not had that problem. Their staff understand their own industrial capability per decade.
"Ultimate high ground from a military perspective" is just a nice cash flow for US contractors selling services back to the US gov and mil.
The "US already has a space plane" that can be seen, tracked, predicted and understood by any advanced nation with anything interesting that could have been seen from space. Most advance nations know not to have anything that can be seen. Lots of nations do allow what is expected to be seen.
For other nations the US could just use a WB-57.
China is not seeking to be a technological giant and then face budget issues. China just needs to keep working on space projects.
Reliability was a problem in the early US and Soviet years. All the new German ideas needed to be understood and worked with under local conditions.
Operation Paperclip https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... gave the US a lot of German experts with no questions asked. Over the years the US had to understand what was been constructed for them.
India had to build its own rockets and now has the local technology that is well understood and can be funded.
China faced the same issues with its advanced technology. Buy in or wait for local skills.
China now has the industrial capability and is ready to move on with its own rocket development at its own pace.
Different nations have understood to not out spend their space budgets.
A generation of the UK Skynet satellite https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... would be the other way to do space science.
Buy hardware from the US and try and get local experts to work on a new UK satellite. When that fails just buy into an existing US satellite product.
Lots of nations have to learned to understand space science in different ways. Some have much lower budgets too.
The UK faced that years ago with its GCHQ links to the National Technical Assistance Centre, Government Technical Assistance Centre and other domestic efforts after the 1980's, 1990's.
Once the use of tech tracking enters the courts and legal system the tech tracking news is then public.
Sealed courts for every case with tracking? Hope parallel construction protects the role of contractor cell-site or other tracking?
A lot of interesting people can just stop using digital networks. All the mil, govs and their new contractors have set up is the ability to track digital networks globally.
Telco databases track consumers after a court order. That same database shows who is been tracked.
All the contractors can do is keep selling products that help law enforcement with parallel construction and try keep all investigations hidden.
That works well until open court or the press using FOIA finds the local use of extra cellular phone surveillance devices.
re " Do they elect a body to deal with it?"
Legal Experts: Stuxnet Attack on Iran Was Illegal ‘Act of Force’ (03.25.13 ) http://www.wired.com/2013/03/s...
It depends on the experts asked, who funded what and why.
Think of Sputnik. Nations thought airspace went up. Sputnik went over many nations but not much was said as spy satellites where going to be used.
A lot of different nations now have offensive cyber-operations funding and contractors. No much is been done to question that new concept.
Re Encryption is before.
A few products tried that in the 1950-1980. The US and UK govs always got the plain text they wanted long term.
Staff where turned, cheaper standards where set. The junk international standards and tame systems can be seen years later.
At some point in the consumer network the plain text is ready. At that point the backdoors, trapdoors are ready.
Product quality did not save the world from the tame standards.
Political leaders did not help. Experts did not mention much about junk standards. Was a lot said about tame encryption over the decades in the press?
The big brands did not seem to understand what was been done to their own networks.
Re "True, there are numerous ways to hide things, but if you intend to make it secure and you do understand the system because you designed it, it is quite possible to make it secure"
The device and the network has origins with the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Trying to build a better app over that voice, text and network logging ready system is interesting.
An app can encrypt but the data has to be entered?
Get the plain text as it is entered? Then the new app can be as powerful as it wants and totally tested. The plain text is still ready on any network.
Re "modern".
Millennium Challenge 2002 was a major war game experiment and exercise. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
"significant portion of Blue's navy was "sunk" by an armada of small Red boats"
"the exercise was suspended, Blue's ships were "re-floated", and the rules of engagement were changed"
Yes. "They must be running out of real spies."
The real spies are cleared and have been in the US for generations. Their paperwork is all correct, in local paper and digital form waiting to be looked at over for reviews over decades. Number stations, one time pads keep a one way connection.
Cults, faith groups are also great ways to get perfect new staff in over decades.
The old way was for low pay and lack of promotion to get existing staff to turn. That gets low and mid ranking staff with some interesting material. But the person often needs constant emotional support and funding. Often they fail to advance to the policy setting levels and just draw attention with lifestyle changes.
A policy of of needing amounts of new skills over the past decade is not useful as it allows new staff to enter for decades of easy advancement with few life story questions.
Yes the new prices will be interesting.
Putin Kills "South Stream" Pipeline, Will Build New Massive Pipeline To Turkey Instead (12/01/2014) http://www.zerohedge.com/news/...
"massive gas pipeline that will travel from Russia, transit through Turkey, and stop at the Greek border – giving Russia access to the Southern European market. In effect, Russia will still have access to the Southern Stream endmarkets"
Re "from your privacy"
The UK has been looking at messages, letters, communications over generations since WW1. With each new generation the ability to sort and store gets better but the laws to access have always been ready.
The digital collection sites are in place. The news about collection was always the same from 1914 to 2014.
The Intelsat collection at Goonhilly Downs in the 1960's.
From the D-notice affair about thousands of private cables and telegrams https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... in 9167.
In the UK, monitoring medium wave tower connections to Ireland. The questions about early Public Key Encryption.
The Government Technical Assistance Centre, National Technical Assistance Centre. It was always in the press over many years.
Tempora https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
From telegrams, telephone to the digital age the only new story is about how cheap storage is.
Re What am I missing?
All the contractor funding to place the tame encryption, keep it working and then clean up the networks after events.
All the new security clearances and new cyber funding? Ex staff and former staff selling their skills globally?
Staff who worked in friendly nations with an understanding of the networks and tame systems selling their skills globally?
Once weak encryption and junk telco networks are worked on for a few generations the skill sets become available to other nations, cults, the needs of multinational corporations or anyone with cash.
State and federal investigations that needs telco support then show up on different databases. If the encryption and standards are low, everybody gets a look in real time. Time to escape.
The US and UK expects and is set up for the world to just keep on using the same tame, junk standards.
The rest of the world can revert to other methods. One time pads, number stations and less digital networking.
What the US and UK are getting could just be generations of digital misinformation. Junk crypto works in both directions:)
All the courts offer is the understanding that parts of the network or product have to be voice or plain text ready.
That skill is in the hands of many ex and former mil and gov staff.
Trusting tame standards lets many people have that same network or product access.
If that tame product or service is sold in some parts of the world it will have plain text, voice and other technical capabilities that are generations of CALEA ready.
Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
The product might be secure input data and have that encrypted data sent along a public network but will be CALEA ready at another point on some part of the network.
Yes the backend to any tame service sold to the public will always be open to a court or law enforcement officials who can use parallel construction to get needed court paperwork.
What's the alternative? Start supporting better OS delelopers?
If a tame product is open to outside gov, mil, ex gov and mil staff and former gov and mil staff consider other software options.
Yes the leadership of any project gets to set the pace and groupthink sets in.
The creative people drift away and the personality traits revert to ensuring the project leaders are well cared for.
No forking, no new ideas, no changes. Just code compatibility with the distant past.
Slashdot Mirror
Re "Slippery Slope meet the Australian Government. This is going to be a wild ride all the way down."
Yes the tracking of ip and files would be legal.
The linking of an ip found to an isp and account would be legal.
Sending a letter would be legal.
Requesting who got the letters as part of discovery would be a free reverse look up to start finding accounts and files.
Every step of keeping a web history would be legal for the security services, police to any court requesting or allowing discovery on the letters sent.
Any ip from a isp in Australia connected to any file of interest could result in a real time database for later review.
Time for a good VPN.
Re "that sattelite and was thus was committed to slashing the cost of communications in Africa"
All the fees and peering costs would have been lost from big brands that just expect that cash flow.
So the good projects that give Africa independence get stopped.
None. The medical experts and other staff are protected.
RASCOM-QAF1? Africa is trapped by the need to have its telecommunications provided by other nations.
Russia had its N1, Buran or Angara projects. The US also had its own ideas about it can put into LEO.
Few nations have the skills or budgets. China will take its time like India and get every part of the production lines working well.
Then the next generation can build on that. Other nations just spend on huge projects and have to start again.
If "China is using all the R&D created" then China would have faced the same issues other nations faced when the flow of information gets too expensive to just copy.
China like India has not had that problem. Their staff understand their own industrial capability per decade.
"Ultimate high ground from a military perspective" is just a nice cash flow for US contractors selling services back to the US gov and mil.
The "US already has a space plane" that can be seen, tracked, predicted and understood by any advanced nation with anything interesting that could have been seen from space. Most advance nations know not to have anything that can be seen. Lots of nations do allow what is expected to be seen.
For other nations the US could just use a WB-57.
China is not seeking to be a technological giant and then face budget issues. China just needs to keep working on space projects.
Reliability was a problem in the early US and Soviet years. All the new German ideas needed to be understood and worked with under local conditions.
Operation Paperclip https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... gave the US a lot of German experts with no questions asked.
Over the years the US had to understand what was been constructed for them.
India had to build its own rockets and now has the local technology that is well understood and can be funded.
China faced the same issues with its advanced technology. Buy in or wait for local skills.
China now has the industrial capability and is ready to move on with its own rocket development at its own pace.
Different nations have understood to not out spend their space budgets.
A generation of the UK Skynet satellite https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... would be the other way to do space science.
Buy hardware from the US and try and get local experts to work on a new UK satellite. When that fails just buy into an existing US satellite product.
Lots of nations have to learned to understand space science in different ways. Some have much lower budgets too.
The UK faced that years ago with its GCHQ links to the National Technical Assistance Centre, Government Technical Assistance Centre and other domestic efforts after the 1980's, 1990's.
Once the use of tech tracking enters the courts and legal system the tech tracking news is then public.
Sealed courts for every case with tracking? Hope parallel construction protects the role of contractor cell-site or other tracking?
A lot of interesting people can just stop using digital networks. All the mil, govs and their new contractors have set up is the ability to track digital networks globally.
Telco databases track consumers after a court order. That same database shows who is been tracked.
All the contractors can do is keep selling products that help law enforcement with parallel construction and try keep all investigations hidden.
That works well until open court or the press using FOIA finds the local use of extra cellular phone surveillance devices.
re " Do they elect a body to deal with it?"
Legal Experts: Stuxnet Attack on Iran Was Illegal ‘Act of Force’ (03.25.13 )
http://www.wired.com/2013/03/s...
It depends on the experts asked, who funded what and why.
Think of Sputnik. Nations thought airspace went up. Sputnik went over many nations but not much was said as spy satellites where going to be used.
A lot of different nations now have offensive cyber-operations funding and contractors. No much is been done to question that new concept.
Re Encryption is before.
A few products tried that in the 1950-1980. The US and UK govs always got the plain text they wanted long term.
Staff where turned, cheaper standards where set. The junk international standards and tame systems can be seen years later.
At some point in the consumer network the plain text is ready. At that point the backdoors, trapdoors are ready.
Product quality did not save the world from the tame standards.
Political leaders did not help. Experts did not mention much about junk standards. Was a lot said about tame encryption over the decades in the press?
The big brands did not seem to understand what was been done to their own networks.
Re "True, there are numerous ways to hide things, but if you intend to make it secure and you do understand the system because you designed it, it is quite possible to make it secure"
The device and the network has origins with the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Trying to build a better app over that voice, text and network logging ready system is interesting.
An app can encrypt but the data has to be entered?
Get the plain text as it is entered? Then the new app can be as powerful as it wants and totally tested. The plain text is still ready on any network.
Re "modern".
Millennium Challenge 2002 was a major war game experiment and exercise. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
"significant portion of Blue's navy was "sunk" by an armada of small Red boats"
"the exercise was suspended, Blue's ships were "re-floated", and the rules of engagement were changed"
Yes. "They must be running out of real spies."
The real spies are cleared and have been in the US for generations. Their paperwork is all correct, in local paper and digital form waiting to be looked at over for reviews over decades. Number stations, one time pads keep a one way connection.
Cults, faith groups are also great ways to get perfect new staff in over decades.
The old way was for low pay and lack of promotion to get existing staff to turn. That gets low and mid ranking staff with some interesting material. But the person often needs constant emotional support and funding. Often they fail to advance to the policy setting levels and just draw attention with lifestyle changes.
A policy of of needing amounts of new skills over the past decade is not useful as it allows new staff to enter for decades of easy advancement with few life story questions.
Yes the new prices will be interesting.
Putin Kills "South Stream" Pipeline, Will Build New Massive Pipeline To Turkey Instead (12/01/2014)
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/...
"massive gas pipeline that will travel from Russia, transit through Turkey, and stop at the Greek border – giving Russia access to the Southern European market. In effect, Russia will still have access to the Southern Stream endmarkets"
Re "from your privacy"
The UK has been looking at messages, letters, communications over generations since WW1. With each new generation the ability to sort and store gets better but the laws to access have always been ready.
The digital collection sites are in place. The news about collection was always the same from 1914 to 2014.
The Intelsat collection at Goonhilly Downs in the 1960's.
From the D-notice affair about thousands of private cables and telegrams https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... in 9167.
In the UK, monitoring medium wave tower connections to Ireland. The questions about early Public Key Encryption.
The Government Technical Assistance Centre, National Technical Assistance Centre. It was always in the press over many years.
Tempora https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
From telegrams, telephone to the digital age the only new story is about how cheap storage is.
It can join Adversary Gold, Goldeneye, Goldenflax, Goldenperch, Goldmine, Goldminer, Goldpoint, Goldvein.
Silver Vs Gold? Platinum Plus? Alchemist?
Re What am I missing? :)
All the contractor funding to place the tame encryption, keep it working and then clean up the networks after events.
All the new security clearances and new cyber funding? Ex staff and former staff selling their skills globally?
Staff who worked in friendly nations with an understanding of the networks and tame systems selling their skills globally?
Once weak encryption and junk telco networks are worked on for a few generations the skill sets become available to other nations, cults, the needs of multinational corporations or anyone with cash.
State and federal investigations that needs telco support then show up on different databases. If the encryption and standards are low, everybody gets a look in real time. Time to escape.
The US and UK expects and is set up for the world to just keep on using the same tame, junk standards.
The rest of the world can revert to other methods. One time pads, number stations and less digital networking.
What the US and UK are getting could just be generations of digital misinformation. Junk crypto works in both directions
All the courts offer is the understanding that parts of the network or product have to be voice or plain text ready.
That skill is in the hands of many ex and former mil and gov staff.
Trusting tame standards lets many people have that same network or product access.
Yes the tame network is secure but always reverts back to plain text or voice as sold.
If that tame product or service is sold in some parts of the world it will have plain text, voice and other technical capabilities that are generations of CALEA ready.
Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
The product might be secure input data and have that encrypted data sent along a public network but will be CALEA ready at another point on some part of the network.
Yes the backend to any tame service sold to the public will always be open to a court or law enforcement officials who can use parallel construction to get needed court paperwork.
What's the alternative? Start supporting better OS delelopers?
If a tame product is open to outside gov, mil, ex gov and mil staff and former gov and mil staff consider other software options.
Yes the leadership of any project gets to set the pace and groupthink sets in.
The creative people drift away and the personality traits revert to ensuring the project leaders are well cared for.
No forking, no new ideas, no changes. Just code compatibility with the distant past.
Hypercard like? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Yes an ip will change or can change. Unless the ISP gives the details of that user. Who can request that?