You make good points and present them well. If this was about circumventing copy protection for cable TV broadcast* I'd agree completely. BUT this is a purchased disk!! Now I am not saying that distributing copies is right. I am saying that Fair Use is the issue and the way the MPAA is using the law is WRONG. Piracy is a seperate issue and piracy is wrong. Lets force some Ethics back into business and adjust our response to those who do pirate instead of just ignoring them. Tell your pirate friends it is wrong to pirate and tell the MPAA to give us fair use.
cya, Andrew... *- I think the distinction between physical and broadcast needs to be identified more as the probable intent of the DMCA was to stop intercepting copyright material. IANAL
Although many are members of Linux user groups, I think there are a lot of people that would support this outside of that context. I really think that slashdot is the place to try to drum up this sort of support (in spite of the Trolls here) as most interested in this do regularly check here. The important thing is not to give up. hang in,, WE WILL WIN
And yet here we are reading this and wanting to get some Openness. Yes / No If yes then all it takes is one person to start, we pool some money in and vote on where and how to use it. Call me niave but I think we can get enough like minded people that we CAN make a difference. It would not be that hard to think of secure ways of handling this and if you violently object to a direction taken you can always pull (whats left + what you gained) back out. Since its not a huge amount of money to risk we could just direct deposit it to a somewhat public relavent persons bank account. This is an opourtunity to do something. Lets not let apathy kill us this time and seal the fate against us little guys. The Time Has Come, let Our Voice Be Heard
I think this needs to be done. It is legal, not breaking any laws It is ultimately for the good of each target company. It does not require a very large amount of money from any one person. It will help the comunity by opening up standards. Open standards means more jobs for community coders.
If you read the articles and find fault then point *that* out.
OK I have read the article and checked out Motley Fools guide on starting a group. I would be more than glad to put some (modest) money forward for this. Qusetions
I live in Australia, can someone take my money by credit card?
What about tax? Presumably there is a risk of making money, any way to avoid paperwork?
As I only trust anarchistic forums like slashdot, can it be an Ethical Slash Group?
I would like to see this implemented and a special slashdot area for its running.
My daughter used to love using it as a typing tuitor when she was about 3yrs old. Loved the infra-red keyboard, and the no screws used case. I still have it somewhere.
I really don't think it is neccessary. So long as material is priced within reason the vast majority wont copy. Sure some people will pirate like mad, they are pirates and the law can deal with that. keep prices cheap more people will buy legit. Half of the reason the estimates of piracy are so high is that it is calculated on an inflated fee in the first place.
High price == high piracy == same profits
Low price == low piracy == higher profits
flat fee == medium piracy == cable TV
no fee == minimal piracy == radio / TV
cya, Andrew... PS:anyone else notice xooom.com's stats are haywire??
The Judge made that clear, it is not about copying. Perhaps it should be pointed out that saving a document in Word format is a technological measure to restrict access to (possibly copyrighted) material. Importing that document into another system not using Word would then be EQUALLY in breach of the law.
My guess is that the courts themselves do this on a regular basis, as a laymans interpretation of the DMCA I interpreted the restriction of acces to copyright material to apply to broadcast information, where if not protected anyone could listen in. Why restrict access to something that is sold specifically to be accessed?
DVD's can be copied, non-degraded in their encrypted form.
Cheap (good as perfect) copies onto VHS using licensed players can be made.
Any movie (VHS/DVD/Broadcast TV)can be digitally sampled and perfectly copied all over the internet. Recent case in Canada?
Surely only something you have not paid for should be restricted.
Hopefully some things will come out of this.
DMCA will be clarified by rulling that the restriction on bypassing access controlls only applies to a broadcast(radio/internet/whatever), not to legitimatly obtained material (word document/ database / CD / DVD)
The restrictions on fair use by such artificial measures as region codes and encryption for purchased items will be made clearly illeagle
There are plenty around they just cost:( you can get some as kits, or there is an open design on my site and you can build your own. Look around the mp3car webring, you will prolly see whats available.
But I built an AT supply for a car MP3 player and found that its 100W was a lot more steady than a generic 200W supply. I think the trick is to just over design for what you need so there is a safety margin. Safety margins are cut in comercial products to boost profit margins, the wattage specified seems to be the extreem edge of what they can supply not what they are designed for.
I have yet to build an ATX supply so I am unaware of how critical sequencing is (someone please mail me on that!) but the standby and power-up down should not be hard. Personally I think the standby is just a waste of power (esp. in a car), just optimise your startup scripts and keep most of the FS read-only and the rest mounted sync.
by using a self referential cross word on there site to keep all the crackers puzzling over the puzzle rather than hi-jacking their site. Security thru distraction.
As a play and it was excellent. Definately would want to see the movie. Bonus haveing a good director. I just can't see where he would fit a frensel lense in this time?
I recently finished reading 'The Fifth Elephant', is there a next one comming out?
This might make a good minimal OS for a car MP3 player, all it needs now is Linux's networking so we can port samba and Apache accross.... Hmmm maybee I'll stick with Linux. cya, Andrew...
my interpretation is that altough they can make small transistors, it is not scalable to large scale integration. They make the comment of being similar technique to painting with a big brush then peeling up the paint to get a thin line. This sounds like a flawed way of doing bulk transistors. What did I miss, how are they dealing with that? I guess what we will end up with is 50nm transistors interfacing to molecular memory arrays self assemled in between nano columns of organic LED's of our flexable full color displays. Need more memory or processing upgrade, just add another display panel to your wall. Every square inch and extra 500 terabytes and treaflopps. With the distributed RF networking tha will be in by the next couple of years, it will be unthinkable to need more. Mores law will finally become redundant because the machines will become more powerfull than we can use. Will humanity make good masters or good slaves?
..could be achieved by neutral bouancy (for zero G) or by spring suspension (normal G), this would then cover climbing walking anything. With some moveable platforms or surfaces you could even simulate falling over and hitting the ground:) or sitting in a chair. Obviously cost could be a problem but a cheap version would still provide most possibilities.
Thinking about it, just take out the PSU fan, if your PSU is rated high enough and you have a low load then it should be ok. Just keep an eye on it in summer.
If you do this then it should not be a problem espescially if you only use an old laptop drive that will be both low power and noise. see my website for a do-it-yourself power supply this one does 100W with no fan off a 12v battery my orientation is for a car player but you can probably get away with an LCD like I use as well. cya, Andrew...
I believe there was a slashdotted article a couple of months back about a HP product called Openlook as an outlook replacement, they were doing free trials to get feedback until they released it comercialy. IIRC it was to run under Linux and HP-UX.
Slashdot Mirror
If this was about circumventing copy protection for cable TV broadcast* I'd agree completely.
BUT this is a purchased disk!! Now I am not saying that distributing copies is right. I am saying that Fair Use is the issue and the way the MPAA is using the law is WRONG.
Piracy is a seperate issue and piracy is wrong.
Lets force some Ethics back into business and adjust our response to those who do pirate instead of just ignoring them. Tell your pirate friends it is wrong to pirate and tell the MPAA to give us fair use.
cya, Andrew...
*- I think the distinction between physical and broadcast needs to be identified more as the probable intent of the DMCA was to stop intercepting copyright material. IANAL
The important thing is not to give up.
hang in,, WE WILL WIN
cya, Andrew...
If yes then all it takes is one person to start, we pool some money in and vote on where and how to use it. Call me niave but I think we can get enough like minded people that we CAN make a difference.
It would not be that hard to think of secure ways of handling this and if you violently object to a direction taken you can always pull (whats left + what you gained) back out. Since its not a huge amount of money to risk we could just direct deposit it to a somewhat public relavent persons bank account.
This is an opourtunity to do something. Lets not let apathy kill us this time and seal the fate against us little guys.
The Time Has Come, let Our Voice Be Heard
cya, Andrew...
It is legal, not breaking any laws
It is ultimately for the good of each target company.
It does not require a very large amount of money from any one person.
It will help the comunity by opening up standards.
Open standards means more jobs for community coders.
If you read the articles and find fault then point *that* out.
cya, Andrew...
I would be more than glad to put some (modest) money forward for this.
Qusetions
I would like to see this implemented and a special slashdot area for its running.
cya, Andrew...
I still have it somewhere.
cya, Andrew...
Open Source World government!!!
cya, Andrew...
PS: Valentines day is comming.
Sure some people will pirate like mad, they are pirates and the law can deal with that.
keep prices cheap more people will buy legit. Half of the reason the estimates of piracy are so high is that it is calculated on an inflated fee in the first place.
cya, Andrew...
PS:anyone else notice xooom.com's stats are haywire??
Perhaps it should be pointed out that saving a document in Word format is a technological measure to restrict access to (possibly copyrighted) material. Importing that document into another system not using Word would then be EQUALLY in breach of the law.
My guess is that the courts themselves do this on a regular basis, as a laymans interpretation of the DMCA I interpreted the restriction of acces to copyright material to apply to broadcast information, where if not protected anyone could listen in. Why restrict access to something that is sold specifically to be accessed?
Surely only something you have not paid for should be restricted.
Hopefully some things will come out of this.
cya, Andrew...
cya, Andrew...
I have yet to build an ATX supply so I am unaware of how critical sequencing is (someone please mail me on that!) but the standby and power-up down should not be hard. Personally I think the standby is just a waste of power (esp. in a car), just optimise your startup scripts and keep most of the FS read-only and the rest mounted sync.
cya, Andrew...
Security thru distraction.
cya, Andrew...
I just can't see where he would fit a frensel lense in this time?
I recently finished reading 'The Fifth Elephant', is there a next one comming out?
cya, Andrew...
This might make a good minimal OS for a car MP3 player, all it needs now is Linux's networking so we can port samba and Apache accross.... Hmmm maybee I'll stick with Linux.
cya, Andrew...
This sounds like a flawed way of doing bulk transistors.
What did I miss, how are they dealing with that?
I guess what we will end up with is 50nm transistors interfacing to molecular memory arrays self assemled in between nano columns of organic LED's of our flexable full color displays. Need more memory or processing upgrade, just add another display panel to your wall. Every square inch and extra 500 terabytes and treaflopps. With the distributed RF networking tha will be in by the next couple of years, it will be unthinkable to need more.
Mores law will finally become redundant because the machines will become more powerfull than we can use. Will humanity make good masters or good slaves?
cya, Andrew...
..could be achieved by neutral bouancy (for zero G) or by spring suspension (normal G), this would then cover climbing walking anything. With some moveable platforms or surfaces you could even simulate falling over and hitting the ground :) or sitting in a chair.
Obviously cost could be a problem but a cheap version would still provide most possibilities.
cya, Andrew...
Thinking about it, just take out the PSU fan, if your PSU is rated high enough and you have a low load then it should be ok. Just keep an eye on it in summer.
;)
cya, Andrew...
PS:when it blows up don't complain
If you do this then it should not be a problem espescially if you only use an old laptop drive that will be both low power and noise. see my website for a do-it-yourself power supply this one does 100W with no fan off a 12v battery my orientation is for a car player but you can probably get away with an LCD like I use as well. cya, Andrew...
I believe there was a slashdotted article a couple of months back about a HP product called Openlook as an outlook replacement, they were doing free trials to get feedback until they released it comercialy. IIRC it was to run under Linux and HP-UX.