Hear hear! and if anyone replies to this post touting the IE development toolbar, I think I'll wretch. IE Dev toolbar is like Firebug's retarded inbread cousin.
IE manages to take the concept of Firefox's Add Ons and totally miss the point. I tried installing one of their plugins recently. After spending a few minutes figuring out how to navigate the site, I went through to byzantine installation process. After that, I wasn't sure if the plugin was installed or not, it didn't seem to do what it said it would.
I know it's just anecdote, but not a good experience at all. Firefox makes add ons so darn easy. There's a real community there. IE has no such thing.
I certainly believe you. Why, oh why, should a piece of software be so staggeringly complex that it needs that kind of installation?
Regarding those Websphere Portal server, I haven't had the displeasure of using it but once had to help a co-worker fix the layout on a page that was in an IBM Portal. Probably some of the worst markup-code-spew I had ever seen. I don't know how much of that he had written and how much RAD or whatever had done, but yow!
For this post, there needs to be a mod category Haha Only Serious!
Anyone who disagrees should be forced to use RAD + Websphere for a local dev environment. Having to do that was probably the worst tech-related experience of my life.
You know, I too am a web developer who makes heavy use of Firefox. I always say it's my single most important piece of development software, at least for web dev.
But for general browsing, I have been considering moving to Chrome. Firefox is getting too slow and bloated. It often hangs around in my process list taking up 99% of my CPU after I shut it down. That is on both my home & my work PC (my home PC is getting a little bit on the old side at 4 years, but my work PC is pretty powerful.) And it has been moving slowly, for some unexplained reason. The CPU and RAM it consumes aren't often large figures, but for some reason it tends to just hang every once in a while, enough to be annoying.
I'll still promote Firefox by means of sites I create, word of mouth, etc, but I don't know if I like it as much as I used to. It's sad to see such a great app get so bloated over time.
I hate the "awesome bar" too. Oh, I can see where people might like it. But I hate it.
My beef with it (not the OP though) is that you can't control it. I don't want some piece of software trying to guess what I probably want to see. Show me where I have been, and as I type auto-complete for me. That's all I ask.
For example: I read XKCD. XKCD was near the top of my awesome bar, and guess which title stuck in there for the longest? Here it is: http://xkcd.com/487/ So I go to demo something to my boss, or do a netmeeting to demo a change I made to a client's website. I pull it from my history, and guess what's there? Something talking about sexual positions. I read that XKCD once, as well as all the others. So why would that title stick in there? Software: don't think for me or try to guess what I want. You'll be wrong.
Even if I could just have more control over the content in the "awesome" bar that would be OK. Don't present me with some piece of software that behaves in a less-than-predictable fashion, and then allow me no control over it. That pisses me off.
Yeah, and if they make it bad enough, you'll buy a Roku.
Netflix sucks. It is well known that they throttle users of their mail order service. Now, they are doing it with users of the online service. Soon, Roku users will be squeezed once they develop a new revenue scheme that they want you to move to.
No, I haven't but he looks a little backwoods, esp for a guy who lives in NYC.
Interesting thought. I think the historical figure Jesus was probably a more lumberjack looking type guy, not the blonde hair blue eyed weakling dude people picture him as. He was a carpenter, and it's not like they had power tools back then. Dude probably had to do hard work. People have made him look a certain way to suit their needs...but I digress.
To me Stallman looks like an unkempt Ron Jeremy, and that's saying something!
Yep, anyone who has had to do anything remotely interesting in terms of client side code for the web has run across the same things. I am always amazed at the so-called web developers who don't think IE is that bad.
In the last year, I have worked for two major corporations, who even in this economic climate, are doing pretty well. Both were still stuck on IE6 and still are as far as I know. I generally tend to think Crockford is right on, but I don't think he is here.
There are so many apps targeted toward IE6 (by this, I mean they pass the "hey, it works in IE test".) I don't think IE6 has achieved its dominance my means of stupid corporations, anyhow. I think it has achieved its dominance from stupid web developers. One place I worked at was a very large telco, and they wanted to upgrade to IE7 a few years ago. Know what held things up? Myopic web developers screaming about how it would break their apps. Sad. No, I don't think these corporations will be out of business. But the inept web developers, if there is any justice, will be forced to either upgrade their skills or work at WalMart.
IE7 is a pile of dog crap compared to Firefox. But compared to IE6, IE7 is a chocolate bar.
IE6 is getting to be like 8 years old. Think of how much the web has changed in 8 years. I cannot think of any real web developers who *like* IE6. It fails at even the most mundane stuff.
Because many Intranet developers (not all) are inept boobs who shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a text editor, much less some what-you-see-is-all-you-get software like dreamweaver. And since corporations have invested big bucks into stupid software developed by cretins, they cannot afford to upgrade. Doing so would mean rewriting these apps. And that like costs money or something.
I was thinking the same thing. Larry Halff won't want his name attached to his next venture. It's a shame, because other than the UTTER STUPIDITY of not backing up someone else's data he seems like a pretty sharp dude. Ma.gnolia was cool.
Maybe I just say that cause I find gambling to be no fun. Seriously, is blackjack not the most boring game ever or what? Now poker, I can see. But blackjack?
Depends. Functional naming conventions often try to name servers according to some crazy attempt to fully qualify the server name. It'd be like naming your variables like I have seen in some VB programs (stupid Hungarian notation!)
I have worked in places where servers are given functional names, and places where servers are named in a more whimsical fashion. Functional names suck.
Even "meaningful" names lose meaning over time, due to changes in naming conventions, repurposing of hardware, or other unforeseen things. Might as well give them whimsical names which relate to one another, yet aren't dependent on the implementation details. Servers are named for human reference, else they'd be IP addresses.
Then, a new director or new group handles server allocation. The naming convention changes and you have to remember yet another arcane naming system.
Again, functional names are cumbersome and hard to remember. And you often have to type server names over and over again. It's easier to remember names like sleepy, grumpy, and dopey than to remember and constantly retype TXDALDC09DEV01, TXDALDC03DEVDB01, and CASFDC06QADB11.
If you just hate whimsical names, then at least serialize the server names. Server01, Server02, and Server03 is a better way to go than coming up with some complex system of fully qualified names.
Feel sorry for the people losing their jobs, but I have not been impressed with the IBM crapware I have been forced to use over the years. I think RAD, Portal Server, and WICA are steaming piles of dung.
Worse still, they attempt to allow non developers to deploy "websites" but in reality just create piles of semi-functioning spaghetti. In this, they fall flat and manage to suck profoundly. Serves IBM right. They try to produce expensive software that takes jobs from real developers, but in reality just creates headaches for everyone.
Everything that is old is new again, including the classic IBM joke:
Two lions escape from the zoo. They decide to split up and meet back in two months to see how the other is doing.
Two months later, one lion is scrawny and beat up, the other is fat and happy. The scrawny beat up lion says, "I went to the park and started eating children. The police and national guard came after me and I haven't stopped running since. How are you so well fed?"
The second lion replies, "Easy! I Just hid outside the IBM office and ate a manager every day. Nobody even noticed!"
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Hear hear! and if anyone replies to this post touting the IE development toolbar, I think I'll wretch. IE Dev toolbar is like Firebug's retarded inbread cousin.
IE manages to take the concept of Firefox's Add Ons and totally miss the point. I tried installing one of their plugins recently. After spending a few minutes figuring out how to navigate the site, I went through to byzantine installation process. After that, I wasn't sure if the plugin was installed or not, it didn't seem to do what it said it would.
I know it's just anecdote, but not a good experience at all. Firefox makes add ons so darn easy. There's a real community there. IE has no such thing.
I certainly believe you. Why, oh why, should a piece of software be so staggeringly complex that it needs that kind of installation?
Regarding those Websphere Portal server, I haven't had the displeasure of using it but once had to help a co-worker fix the layout on a page that was in an IBM Portal. Probably some of the worst markup-code-spew I had ever seen. I don't know how much of that he had written and how much RAD or whatever had done, but yow!
For this post, there needs to be a mod category Haha Only Serious!
Anyone who disagrees should be forced to use RAD + Websphere for a local dev environment. Having to do that was probably the worst tech-related experience of my life.
plus, it was a perfect use of the "I accidentally" meme ;)
"I sometimes if they're want-a-be-actors who are working on their accent,"
You accidentally a word there.
You know, I too am a web developer who makes heavy use of Firefox. I always say it's my single most important piece of development software, at least for web dev.
But for general browsing, I have been considering moving to Chrome. Firefox is getting too slow and bloated. It often hangs around in my process list taking up 99% of my CPU after I shut it down. That is on both my home & my work PC (my home PC is getting a little bit on the old side at 4 years, but my work PC is pretty powerful.) And it has been moving slowly, for some unexplained reason. The CPU and RAM it consumes aren't often large figures, but for some reason it tends to just hang every once in a while, enough to be annoying.
I'll still promote Firefox by means of sites I create, word of mouth, etc, but I don't know if I like it as much as I used to. It's sad to see such a great app get so bloated over time.
I hate the "awesome bar" too. Oh, I can see where people might like it. But I hate it.
My beef with it (not the OP though) is that you can't control it. I don't want some piece of software trying to guess what I probably want to see. Show me where I have been, and as I type auto-complete for me. That's all I ask.
For example: I read XKCD. XKCD was near the top of my awesome bar, and guess which title stuck in there for the longest? Here it is: http://xkcd.com/487/ So I go to demo something to my boss, or do a netmeeting to demo a change I made to a client's website. I pull it from my history, and guess what's there? Something talking about sexual positions. I read that XKCD once, as well as all the others. So why would that title stick in there? Software: don't think for me or try to guess what I want. You'll be wrong.
Even if I could just have more control over the content in the "awesome" bar that would be OK. Don't present me with some piece of software that behaves in a less-than-predictable fashion, and then allow me no control over it. That pisses me off.
Yeah, and if they make it bad enough, you'll buy a Roku.
Netflix sucks. It is well known that they throttle users of their mail order service. Now, they are doing it with users of the online service. Soon, Roku users will be squeezed once they develop a new revenue scheme that they want you to move to.
No, I haven't but he looks a little backwoods, esp for a guy who lives in NYC.
Interesting thought. I think the historical figure Jesus was probably a more lumberjack looking type guy, not the blonde hair blue eyed weakling dude people picture him as. He was a carpenter, and it's not like they had power tools back then. Dude probably had to do hard work. People have made him look a certain way to suit their needs...but I digress.
To me Stallman looks like an unkempt Ron Jeremy, and that's saying something!
Yep, anyone who has had to do anything remotely interesting in terms of client side code for the web has run across the same things. I am always amazed at the so-called web developers who don't think IE is that bad.
In the last year, I have worked for two major corporations, who even in this economic climate, are doing pretty well. Both were still stuck on IE6 and still are as far as I know. I generally tend to think Crockford is right on, but I don't think he is here.
There are so many apps targeted toward IE6 (by this, I mean they pass the "hey, it works in IE test".) I don't think IE6 has achieved its dominance my means of stupid corporations, anyhow. I think it has achieved its dominance from stupid web developers. One place I worked at was a very large telco, and they wanted to upgrade to IE7 a few years ago. Know what held things up? Myopic web developers screaming about how it would break their apps. Sad. No, I don't think these corporations will be out of business. But the inept web developers, if there is any justice, will be forced to either upgrade their skills or work at WalMart.
You're not a web developer then?
IE7 is a pile of dog crap compared to Firefox. But compared to IE6, IE7 is a chocolate bar.
IE6 is getting to be like 8 years old. Think of how much the web has changed in 8 years. I cannot think of any real web developers who *like* IE6. It fails at even the most mundane stuff.
Because many Intranet developers (not all) are inept boobs who shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a text editor, much less some what-you-see-is-all-you-get software like dreamweaver. And since corporations have invested big bucks into stupid software developed by cretins, they cannot afford to upgrade. Doing so would mean rewriting these apps. And that like costs money or something.
I, for one, welcome...
Ah, it's just not worth it, is it?
Judging by the UI changes that began with the Firehose (aka Slashdot Takes A Crap On Your Screen), Slashdot is down to zero developers.
It would seem that they now employ a horde of feces-throwing monkeys who manage to peck at the keyboard every once in a while.
And the new paradigm isn't worth 20 cents.
"Remember, nobody pays you for backups, only for restores."
Brilliant! I'm adding that to my repertoire.
I was thinking the same thing. Larry Halff won't want his name attached to his next venture. It's a shame, because other than the UTTER STUPIDITY of not backing up someone else's data he seems like a pretty sharp dude. Ma.gnolia was cool.
Well, that and the fact that many cloud services destroy your privacy. RMS argues that we are being shortsighted to trade our privacy for "kewl!"
He's right, you know! About everything.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/sep/29/cloud.computing.richard.stallman
yup, gambling is effectively a tax on stupidity.
Maybe I just say that cause I find gambling to be no fun. Seriously, is blackjack not the most boring game ever or what? Now poker, I can see. But blackjack?
And now *you* just referenced Hadoop.
Oh, and remember to breathe!
Depends. Functional naming conventions often try to name servers according to some crazy attempt to fully qualify the server name. It'd be like naming your variables like I have seen in some VB programs (stupid Hungarian notation!)
I have worked in places where servers are given functional names, and places where servers are named in a more whimsical fashion. Functional names suck.
Even "meaningful" names lose meaning over time, due to changes in naming conventions, repurposing of hardware, or other unforeseen things. Might as well give them whimsical names which relate to one another, yet aren't dependent on the implementation details. Servers are named for human reference, else they'd be IP addresses.
Then, a new director or new group handles server allocation. The naming convention changes and you have to remember yet another arcane naming system.
Again, functional names are cumbersome and hard to remember. And you often have to type server names over and over again. It's easier to remember names like sleepy, grumpy, and dopey than to remember and constantly retype TXDALDC09DEV01, TXDALDC03DEVDB01, and CASFDC06QADB11.
If you just hate whimsical names, then at least serialize the server names. Server01, Server02, and Server03 is a better way to go than coming up with some complex system of fully qualified names.
Hey, you could name your Windows servers Druuge names. That would only be fitting.
An Hadoop cluster could be given spathi names.
On second thought, I know waaay too much about UQM.
Feel sorry for the people losing their jobs, but I have not been impressed with the IBM crapware I have been forced to use over the years. I think RAD, Portal Server, and WICA are steaming piles of dung.
Worse still, they attempt to allow non developers to deploy "websites" but in reality just create piles of semi-functioning spaghetti. In this, they fall flat and manage to suck profoundly. Serves IBM right. They try to produce expensive software that takes jobs from real developers, but in reality just creates headaches for everyone.
Everything that is old is new again, including the classic IBM joke:
Two lions escape from the zoo. They decide to split up and meet back in two months to see how the other is doing.
Two months later, one lion is scrawny and beat up, the other is fat and happy. The scrawny beat up lion says, "I went to the park and started eating children. The police and national guard came after me and I haven't stopped running since. How are you so well fed?"
The second lion replies, "Easy! I Just hid outside the IBM office and ate a manager every day. Nobody even noticed!"