Except that the COMMERCIAL desktop development (Red Hat, Sun Mad Dog, Ximian) is all being done on GNOME, and all the free development (KNOPPIX, Debian) is on KDE.
It is GNOME which is moving towards notYET and M$, while KDE and the Qt libs are moving closer to the open, free world.
You can interface any language to KDE, through Qt or Gtk/Gtk+. MUCH more difficult in GNOME. I18N is more complete (therefore, the environment is MUCH freer in reality) in KDE than in GNOME.
Your logic doesn't follow the realities of today...admit it. Anything but BSD and GPL confuses you and foils your evil plans to write closed, non-free software on KDE and Linux. FINE! Write it on GNOME. Watch M$ steal it!.
...a predatory social system that keeps people in a state of domination and division, and uses the spoils to dominate more. It may seem like a profitable option to become one of the emperor's lieutenants, but ultimately the ethical thing to do is to resist the system and put an end to it.
Actually, it sounds just like the words the Gipper, Ollie North, Poindexter, Bush I and this ENTIRE Administration use to describe any political system that does not subscibe to the letter of the American Constitution...certainly sounds like what most of the 'economists' on TV use to describe any system other than laissez-faire, free-market capitalism...
Also, could be taken from any one of 30 or 40 Reagan speeches, describing the former Soviet Union, or any of 10 or 12 speeches by various members of the current Administration describing Cuba or Venezuela.
Also sounds like any number of speeches by Ann Coulter, Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, Pat Buchanan, or any of the rest of the neo-con, religious right, family values clique in describing any political, religious or economic system that does not precisely match their belief system (Coulter has actually advocated the forcible conversion of Muslims to Christianity, in her new book and in many of her columns.)
So, according to the current dogma of the bible-thumping, on your knees, religious conservative minions of the ruling elite of the Republican party, RMS is on their side.
...funny how that works, ain't it? RMS may be a nut, but he's in good company, isn't he?
Bottom line, the GPL is no more Communist than EULAs and non-free copyrights are fascist.
...as compared to these guys...I especially like the idea of a controllable light source and full control of the seating angles, pressures, tempratures, desk angles and filtered and heated airflow...and, with a powered/programmed rotating base, we don't need no stinkin' LCD monitors with an Aura or Echo workstation!
Hoo!Yah! "...120-degrees of rotation in 15 seconds," under my control! WOOT!
Seriosly, these guys "designed, developed, manufactured, and installed a modular trading pit system for the CHICAGO MERCANTILE EXCHANGE," and, if you've ever been there, much more difficult, IMHO, the exceptional indirect lighting system for the MERC. They're known for quality of materials and effort.
FINK is essentially apt and dselect for OS X. Linux software (including rootless XFree, KDE and Gnome) runs as OS X with all the nice Aqua eye-candy...root directory is under the/sw volume mount, so it nicely co-exists wiuth the existing XDarwin and OS X software.
Maybe they're talking job security, since even Mundie, in an uncustomary and uncommon bit of truthfulness, admitted today at their "Trusted Computing Conference that they found it impossible to secure their own products...then he lapsed into his normal lying self, and commited another foot-bullet by comparing script-kiddiez to the Takfir wal Hajiri and the al Quaeda...
LOTS of people predicted this would happen. Microsoft is hoping it will happen. In the mid-90s, the computer industry lobbied Congress to mandate the military use Commercial, Off the Shelf (COTS) software, hardware and network services. The G waited 2 YEARS for industry to get its act together, without success, and then the military opted to secure its classified traffic on the SIPRNET, a separate protocol, tunneled over the Internet and co-existing with it. SIPRNET is provisioned over leased lines, sold as "Bulk Black" by the backbone and MAN providers, who took over the Internet from the G's NSF.
Internet2 is not ready for prime time and is primarily an academic network, without the proper availability for the government networks. GOVNET can be provisioned as MILNET and SIPRNET is, saving the governmemnt money and protecting the information infrastructure.
Industry, the geeks and academia have failed to properly secure the Internet out of greed and mistrust of their own government, necessitating this move.
Meanwhile, by statute, the USG must make information public over a neutral (read not.NET or SunONE or slashnet or whatever) Internet, the only positive thing (other than the economic comedy of the dot-bombs) that has come out of this whole 'Information Revolution.'
STAC Electronics...IBM...Symantec...Apple Computer...Corel...need I go on...as long as you do the monkey dance and kiss Billy's ass and suborn the interests of your management and investors...in other words do itthe "Microsoft way" you get support. Once you speak up, differ in approach or start to talk about a more equal share of the attention/PR/money/whatever, you're screwed...just ask the above companies...
According to the intruder, who says he worked alone and doesn't belong to a hacking group, two insecure Windows 2000 (Win2K) systems on the periphery of Microsoft's network were used to gain entry to the company's firewalled corporate network.
Besides being connected to the Internet, the vulnerable systems were "dual-homed" and linked to an intranet that was part of Microsoft's corporate network, said the man, who claimed to be a graduate student in his thirties.
...and "dual homing" isn't such a good idea either, even if you're behind the firewall of "the best and most heavily defended network in the world." I'm anxiously awaiting the news that's gonna come out of the 'security' the folks in Redmond have built into XP and W2K. Sounds like a certain "BackOrifice" to me. AS for 'file and resource sharing' and 'softwae deployment,' can you say "Code Red" and "Microsoft WebDAV"? - not to mention the hack, above? I knew you could.
Back in the olden days, people thought that giving your money to someone else to hold was risky. And sure enough, many banks did fail and took their depositor's funds with them. But over time, controls and standards were put in place. Now it's the people who keep their money at home in a mattress are the ones considered crazy...I think it's just because the ASP industry is like the banking industry before a lot of standards were developed.
So are you advocating an FDIC (Federal Data Insurance Corporation) and Federal Data Reserve? If so, you'll be up against most of the Valley and ALL of Redmond (including Nintendo America). THEY want the government to stay out of the way.
If you're advocating standards as spec'd by the IETF, the W3C, SAGE, etc., they don't work and are (so far) unenforceable in court (witness the sorry state of browser compatibility, XML 'standards,' and 'standards' in the commercial Web and Internet spaces).
The ONLY thing that will work to prevent this (until the G does decide to step in to 'protect' commerce on the Net, and incidentally, charge fees and taxes and mandate bureaucracy) is a reasonable ironclad contract, drawn up by a knowledgeable and competent Corporate Counsel or other attorney, directed by a clueful CTO or Purchasing Manager (few and far between).
Follow the links to the SPAWARS FAQ. This is for DTD use and will not replace the SIPRNET. This contract is mandated by a consolidation rule in the FAR that requires the Navy and Marine Corps to reduce their dependence on local Help Desks and to integrate the CENET into a single unified command.
All normal phone and data services will be the responsibility of the contractor. Based on EDS's past history with these sorts of contracts, it will be anything but universal. Besides, under the FAR, you can't mandate universality. Commands will order seats under a CLIN, as always.
This is really no change. The Navy has ALWAYS been Microsoft's single biggest consumer.
RE: You need to lose your politics, and figure out what is best for the user, before you lose your job.
The political one here is you, judging from a search on this site and Google.
As an aside, there is currently, now that MS has announced their corporate licensing structure, a project underway to calculate the TRUE present and future ROI of the NEW MANDATORY UPGRADES MICROSOFT WILL FORCE ON THEIR CORPORATE CLIENTS for all listed companies on all the major international stock exchanges. Those figures will be kept in a database and published for all to see how much money these companies spent on MS, Sun, Linux, etc., along with cost and ROI analyses of the alternatives for each. Additionally, there are currently three class-action lawsuits pending against M$, exclusive of the States Attornies General and the EU, speaking to these issues. Finally, there is a bill about to be introduced in Congress which will mandate that persons engaged in contract review and approval be subject to the FOIA and disclose all their investments.
and THEN there was PEEKABOOTY.....
HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEH
FIGHT THE POWER!!!!!!!!! If we can't route with them, we'll route THROUGH them, over them, under them around them....after all, that's how the DARPA devised this thing.
I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations...
Thomas Jefferson
The first link is the web site of the people who are bribing^H^H^H^H^H^H^H...errr...contributing to the campaigns of your freindly neighborhood CongressCritters and State Reptilesentatives: the people who want UCITA to be the law of the land. OF COURSE they're going to say that Stallman's ideas are bunk.
The text of the law they are proposing shows them up for the liars they are. IT WILL outlaw reverse-engineering and IT WILL leave free software authors with unlimited liability. The issue is that this is the software industry codifying the EULAs and FUA that they try to impose on you and I here in the US into law, contrary to the Constitution and their duty to Society. Stallman, the Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility, the Assoiation for Computer Machinery, 2 dozen scholarly organizations, the American Library Association, and over fifty other organizations oppose this nasty law beause it's WRONG and (in the US) UNCONSTITUTIONAL!
BTW, it's UCITA, not UTITA or UTICA.
The original poster asked a question about the outlawing of R-E of file systems and file types being possible, their protection from said R-E and his disbelief that it was POSSIBLE. I pointed out the PROBABILITY of that becoming more widespread thanks to the spread cheeks of your RepublKKKan government.
Because state reptilesentatives are more worried about their bribes^H^H^H^H^H^H...errr...campaign contributions and the falling tax-base, more than they are about your rights either as consumers or developers, and because the supporters of this unconstitutional law have such deep pockets, UCITA is slowly gaining ground against its opponents.
UCITA has another indirect consequence that would hamstring free software development in the long term -- it gives proprietary software developers the power to prohibit reverse engineering. This would make it easy for them to establish secret file formats and protocols, which there would be no lawful way for us to figure out.
the new Treasury Secretary advocates the abolition of corporate taxes and capital gains taxes on corporations, giving the American Corporation all the privileges and benefits of personhood under the law, while requiring none of the sacrifices or responsibilities. Oh, yeah, he also kept 100 million US dollars in stock options from his former job as CEO of Alcoa Aluminum, one of the US's biggest energy hogs, polluters, and abusers of the current system, after his confirmation.
He also favors the abolition of Social Security, MediCare and the tax advantages of deferred retirement plans.
Another example of where the Korporate Kompassionate Konservatives want to take us as a country. Oh, and for those of you who live outside the US, this is where YOUR governments wish to go, as they move to the KKK's dependence on Korporate bribes^H^H^H^H^H^H....errr...Kompassionate Kontributors' Kontrol of the various governments.
Any doubt anymore about who REALLY owns this government?
Excuse me, poodle boy...are you a lawyer? If not, you wanna be charged with 'practicing law without a license,' like you were charged with 'practicing medicine without a license' in the San Jose NOTS 34 case?
Go home Poodle. Your cooties are showing.
The corrupt office of the District Attorney in Riverside County, California and the clams' tame judge aren't the ONLY politicians or business or public figures that's gonna start to feel the heat.
"I know that taking a stand against Scientology is likely to subject me and my family to the same abuse Mr. Ward has experienced. But there comes a point where people of good will *must* stand up to criminals-- even to those who are experts in using the courts to harass." --- Keith Henson
...and so was your Founder. But then, you know that since you're OSA and have probably snuck looks at the 'forbidden' stuff, eh?
Go away, poodle-boy. Tell your masters hey, for us, would you? Your attorneys just stirred up the whirlwind.
Go tell Trooze and Cravolta to get out of Poodle's bed and go make some more cash for the Legal Fund.
You're gonna need it.
The corrupt office of the District Attorney in Riverside County, California and the clams' tame judge aren't the ONLY politicians or business or public figures that's gonna start to feel the heat.
"I know that taking a stand against Scientology is likely to subject me and my family to the same abuse Mr. Ward has experienced. But there comes a point where people of good will *must* stand up to criminals-- even to those who are experts in using the courts to harass." --- Keith Henson
Go away, poodle-boy. Tell your masters hey, for us, would you? Your attorneys just stirred up the whirlwind.
Go tell Trooze and Cravolta to get out of Poodle's bed and go make some more cash for the Legal Fund.
You're gonna need it.
The corrupt office of the District Attorney in Riverside County, California and the clams' tame judge aren't the ONLY politicians or business or public figures that's gonna start to feel the heat.
"I know that taking a stand against Scientology is likely to subject me and my family to the same abuse Mr. Ward has experienced. But there comes a point where people of good will *must* stand up to criminals-- even to those who are experts in using the courts to harass." --- Keith Henson
Rob, did Tripod tell you what happened? I was looking at the traffic meter and it was NOWHERE NEAR a slashdotting for Tripod servers. The 'da.ru' site was blocked, too, this morning (seemed to have a 'kicker' and redirect), and I had to post twice here on/. to get it to take.
RE: You sound like a raving lunatic! What's next, Scientology is in control of NASA's cover up of not going to the Moon? Geez!
Nope, last time Andover caved. They're caving again. Tripod has caved. Netcom caved. The court in Riverside County (and the judge) caved...
Wake up and smell the clam chowder!
If you decide to go on record as being against these folks, you've GOT to start letting them know you won't go down without a fight. You've got to cite all of this, as you will find out if you ever go up against them.
Do you work for or have stock in Cisco? How about Farmers' Insurance or Allstate(hold a policy)? How about if you use Panda or Executive Software? Any of your packets traverse EarthLink? How about Netcom? Checked lately to see if your kids are reading Dianetics, or learning from companies fronting for the clams?
If you're not afraid, you're blind and unthinking, especially if you live here in the US where the President of the United States has said that he believes that freedom needs to 'be controlled.' I am a man of good will, are you? Or are you just a True Coward, as well as being anonymous? Posts and comments on this site have disappeared today. We've watched them being purged. An entire Website and FTP archive disappeared within minutes after this story was posted No word from Tripod as to why. No word from Andover as to why.
"I know that taking a stand against Scientology is likely to subject me and my family to the same abuse Mr. Ward has experienced. But there comes a point where people of good will *must* stand up to criminals-- even to those who are experts in using the courts to harass." --- Keith Henson
Slashdot Mirror
Except that the COMMERCIAL desktop development (Red Hat, Sun Mad Dog, Ximian) is all being done on GNOME, and all the free development (KNOPPIX, Debian) is on KDE.
It is GNOME which is moving towards notYET and M$, while KDE and the Qt libs are moving closer to the open, free world.
You can interface any language to KDE, through Qt or Gtk/Gtk+. MUCH more difficult in GNOME. I18N is more complete (therefore, the environment is MUCH freer in reality) in KDE than in GNOME.
Your logic doesn't follow the realities of today...admit it. Anything but BSD and GPL confuses you and foils your evil plans to write closed, non-free software on KDE and Linux. FINE! Write it on GNOME. Watch M$ steal it!.
...a predatory social system that keeps people in a state of domination and division, and uses the spoils to dominate more. It may seem like a profitable option to become one of the emperor's lieutenants, but ultimately the ethical thing to do is to resist the system and put an end to it.
...funny how that works, ain't it? RMS may be a nut, but he's in good company, isn't he?
Actually, it sounds just like the words the Gipper, Ollie North, Poindexter, Bush I and this ENTIRE Administration use to describe any political system that does not subscibe to the letter of the American Constitution...certainly sounds like what most of the 'economists' on TV use to describe any system other than laissez-faire, free-market capitalism...
Also, could be taken from any one of 30 or 40 Reagan speeches, describing the former Soviet Union, or any of 10 or 12 speeches by various members of the current Administration describing Cuba or Venezuela.
Also sounds like any number of speeches by Ann Coulter, Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, Pat Buchanan, or any of the rest of the neo-con, religious right, family values clique in describing any political, religious or economic system that does not precisely match their belief system (Coulter has actually advocated the forcible conversion of Muslims to Christianity, in her new book and in many of her columns.)
So, according to the current dogma of the bible-thumping, on your knees, religious conservative minions of the ruling elite of the Republican party, RMS is on their side.
Bottom line, the GPL is no more Communist than EULAs and non-free copyrights are fascist.
You have already contributed and are continuing to contribute.
O! Canada. Thank you.
Hoo!Yah! "...120-degrees of rotation in 15 seconds," under my control! WOOT!
Seriosly, these guys "designed, developed, manufactured, and installed a modular trading pit system for the CHICAGO MERCANTILE EXCHANGE ," and, if you've ever been there, much more difficult, IMHO, the exceptional indirect lighting system for the MERC. They're known for quality of materials and effort.
Maybe they're talking job security, since even Mundie, in an uncustomary and uncommon bit of truthfulness, admitted today at their "Trusted Computing Conference that they found it impossible to secure their own products...then he lapsed into his normal lying self, and commited another foot-bullet by comparing script-kiddiez to the Takfir wal Hajiri and the al Quaeda...
...and now you're CRYING? For chrissakes!
.NET or SunONE or slashnet or whatever) Internet, the only positive thing (other than the economic comedy of the dot-bombs) that has come out of this whole 'Information Revolution.'
LOTS of people predicted this would happen. Microsoft is hoping it will happen. In the mid-90s, the computer industry lobbied Congress to mandate the military use Commercial, Off the Shelf (COTS) software, hardware and network services. The G waited 2 YEARS for industry to get its act together, without success, and then the military opted to secure its classified traffic on the SIPRNET, a separate protocol, tunneled over the Internet and co-existing with it. SIPRNET is provisioned over leased lines, sold as "Bulk Black" by the backbone and MAN providers, who took over the Internet from the G's NSF.
Internet2 is not ready for prime time and is primarily an academic network, without the proper availability for the government networks. GOVNET can be provisioned as MILNET and SIPRNET is, saving the governmemnt money and protecting the information infrastructure.
Industry, the geeks and academia have failed to properly secure the Internet out of greed and mistrust of their own government, necessitating this move.
Meanwhile, by statute, the USG must make information public over a neutral (read not
STAC Electronics...IBM...Symantec...Apple Computer...Corel...need I go on...as long as you do the monkey dance and kiss Billy's ass and suborn the interests of your management and investors...in other words do itthe "Microsoft way" you get support. Once you speak up, differ in approach or start to talk about a more equal share of the attention/PR/money/whatever, you're screwed...just ask the above companies...
Just ask Benign.
...and "dual homing" isn't such a good idea either, even if you're behind the firewall of "the best and most heavily defended network in the world." I'm anxiously awaiting the news that's gonna come out of the 'security' the folks in Redmond have built into XP and W2K. Sounds like a certain "BackOrifice" to me. AS for 'file and resource sharing' and 'softwae deployment,' can you say "Code Red" and "Microsoft WebDAV"? - not to mention the hack, above? I knew you could.GOD! I love Microsoft! They make it so EASY!
...apparently VERY few people can configure Windows so it is secure.
Among these are Hotmail, Expedia, and Microsoft's own software security group.
The Chicago protest is still on!!!
g o/2001-July/thread.html
Details at http://ufo.chicago.il.us/pipermail/sklyarov-chica
See you at the Dirksen Building Plaza, Monday at 11:00 AM!!!
If you're advocating standards as spec'd by the IETF, the W3C, SAGE, etc., they don't work and are (so far) unenforceable in court (witness the sorry state of browser compatibility, XML 'standards,' and 'standards' in the commercial Web and Internet spaces).
The ONLY thing that will work to prevent this (until the G does decide to step in to 'protect' commerce on the Net, and incidentally, charge fees and taxes and mandate bureaucracy) is a reasonable ironclad contract, drawn up by a knowledgeable and competent Corporate Counsel or other attorney, directed by a clueful CTO or Purchasing Manager (few and far between).
Follow the links to the SPAWARS FAQ. This is for DTD use and will not replace the SIPRNET. This contract is mandated by a consolidation rule in the FAR that requires the Navy and Marine Corps to reduce their dependence on local Help Desks and to integrate the CENET into a single unified command.
All normal phone and data services will be the responsibility of the contractor. Based on EDS's past history with these sorts of contracts, it will be anything but universal. Besides, under the FAR, you can't mandate universality. Commands will order seats under a CLIN, as always.
This is really no change. The Navy has ALWAYS been Microsoft's single biggest consumer.
RE: You need to lose your politics, and figure out what is best for the user, before you lose your job.
The political one here is you, judging from a search on this site and Google.
As an aside, there is currently, now that MS has announced their corporate licensing structure, a project underway to calculate the TRUE present and future ROI of the NEW MANDATORY UPGRADES MICROSOFT WILL FORCE ON THEIR CORPORATE CLIENTS for all listed companies on all the major international stock exchanges. Those figures will be kept in a database and published for all to see how much money these companies spent on MS, Sun, Linux, etc., along with cost and ROI analyses of the alternatives for each. Additionally, there are currently three class-action lawsuits pending against M$, exclusive of the States Attornies General and the EU, speaking to these issues. Finally, there is a bill about to be introduced in Congress which will mandate that persons engaged in contract review and approval be subject to the FOIA and disclose all their investments.
Lets REALLY level the playing field, shall we?
FUCK RIAA!!!!
...
Thomas Jefferson
Gnutella
FreeNet
FIDONet/ISSI
and THEN there was PEEKABOOTY.....
HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEH
FIGHT THE POWER!!!!!!!!! If we can't route with them, we'll route THROUGH them, over them, under them around them....after all, that's how the DARPA devised this thing.
I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations
Programming is an art form that fights back.
FIGHT THE POWER!!!!!!!!!!
The first link is the web site of the people who are bribing^H^H^H^H^H^H^H...errr...contributing to the campaigns of your freindly neighborhood CongressCritters and State Reptilesentatives: the people who want UCITA to be the law of the land. OF COURSE they're going to say that Stallman's ideas are bunk.
The text of the law they are proposing shows them up for the liars they are. IT WILL outlaw reverse-engineering and IT WILL leave free software authors with unlimited liability. The issue is that this is the software industry codifying the EULAs and FUA that they try to impose on you and I here in the US into law, contrary to the Constitution and their duty to Society. Stallman, the Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility, the Assoiation for Computer Machinery, 2 dozen scholarly organizations, the American Library Association, and over fifty other organizations oppose this nasty law beause it's WRONG and (in the US) UNCONSTITUTIONAL!
BTW, it's UCITA, not UTITA or UTICA.
The original poster asked a question about the outlawing of R-E of file systems and file types being possible, their protection from said R-E and his disbelief that it was POSSIBLE. I pointed out the PROBABILITY of that becoming more widespread thanks to the spread cheeks of your RepublKKKan government.
Because state reptilesentatives are more worried about their bribes^H^H^H^H^H^H...errr...campaign contributions and the falling tax-base, more than they are about your rights either as consumers or developers, and because the supporters of this unconstitutional law have such deep pockets, UCITA is slowly gaining ground against its opponents.
From Richard Stallman's updated ' Why We MUST Fight UCITA ' FIGHT THE POWER!!!!
the new Treasury Secretary advocates the abolition of corporate taxes and capital gains taxes on corporations, giving the American Corporation all the privileges and benefits of personhood under the law, while requiring none of the sacrifices or responsibilities. Oh, yeah, he also kept 100 million US dollars in stock options from his former job as CEO of Alcoa Aluminum, one of the US's biggest energy hogs, polluters, and abusers of the current system, after his confirmation.
He also favors the abolition of Social Security, MediCare and the tax advantages of deferred retirement plans.
Another example of where the Korporate Kompassionate Konservatives want to take us as a country. Oh, and for those of you who live outside the US, this is where YOUR governments wish to go, as they move to the KKK's dependence on Korporate bribes^H^H^H^H^H^H....errr...Kompassionate Kontributors' Kontrol of the various governments.
Any doubt anymore about who REALLY owns this government?
Excuse me, poodle boy...are you a lawyer? If not, you wanna be charged with 'practicing law without a license,' like you were charged with 'practicing medicine without a license' in the San Jose NOTS 34 case?
Go home Poodle. Your cooties are showing.
The corrupt office of the District Attorney in Riverside County, California and the clams' tame judge aren't the ONLY politicians or business or public figures that's gonna start to feel the heat.
"I know that taking a stand against Scientology is likely to subject me and my family to the same abuse Mr. Ward has experienced. But there comes a point where people of good will *must* stand up to criminals-- even to those who are experts in using the courts to harass." --- Keith Henson
That's gonna be our war cry, assholes!
...and so was your Founder. But then, you know that since you're OSA and have probably snuck looks at the 'forbidden' stuff, eh?
Go away, poodle-boy. Tell your masters hey, for us, would you? Your attorneys just stirred up the whirlwind. Go tell Trooze and Cravolta to get out of Poodle's bed and go make some more cash for the Legal Fund. You're gonna need it. The corrupt office of the District Attorney in Riverside County, California and the clams' tame judge aren't the ONLY politicians or business or public figures that's gonna start to feel the heat.
"I know that taking a stand against Scientology is likely to subject me and my family to the same abuse Mr. Ward has experienced. But there comes a point where people of good will *must* stand up to criminals-- even to those who are experts in using the courts to harass." --- Keith Henson
Yep. As does the rest of this community.
Go away, poodle-boy. Tell your masters hey, for us, would you? Your attorneys just stirred up the whirlwind.
Go tell Trooze and Cravolta to get out of Poodle's bed and go make some more cash for the Legal Fund.
You're gonna need it.
The corrupt office of the District Attorney in Riverside County, California and the clams' tame judge aren't the ONLY politicians or business or public figures that's gonna start to feel the heat.
"I know that taking a stand against Scientology is likely to subject me and my family to the same abuse Mr. Ward has experienced. But there comes a point where people of good will *must* stand up to criminals-- even to those who are experts in using the courts to harass." --- Keith Henson
They caved.
Why did they not do the same thing when MicroSoft threatened them?
Go do a quick analysis of the times of posting here. See the gaps?
Rob, did Tripod tell you what happened? I was looking at the traffic meter and it was NOWHERE NEAR a slashdotting for Tripod servers. The 'da.ru' site was blocked, too, this morning (seemed to have a 'kicker' and redirect), and I had to post twice here on /. to get it to take.
Nope, last time Andover caved. They're caving again. Tripod has caved. Netcom caved. The court in Riverside County (and the judge) caved...
Wake up and smell the clam chowder!
If you decide to go on record as being against these folks, you've GOT to start letting them know you won't go down without a fight. You've got to cite all of this, as you will find out if you ever go up against them.
Do you work for or have stock in Cisco? How about Farmers' Insurance or Allstate(hold a policy)? How about if you use Panda or Executive Software? Any of your packets traverse EarthLink? How about Netcom? Checked lately to see if your kids are reading Dianetics, or learning from companies fronting for the clams?
If you're not afraid, you're blind and unthinking, especially if you live here in the US where the President of the United States has said that he believes that freedom needs to 'be controlled.' I am a man of good will, are you? Or are you just a True Coward, as well as being anonymous? Posts and comments on this site have disappeared today. We've watched them being purged. An entire Website and FTP archive disappeared within minutes after this story was posted No word from Tripod as to why. No word from Andover as to why.