Because the FSF does not want to have anything to do with Open Source. I gave the link to the relevant FSF text in another reply. It's many years old, you should try to read it some time.
You haven't yet explained why interoperating (by telnet, since that's what Tridgell did) with a BitKeeper server is bad and interoperating with a SMB/CIFS client is good.
McVoy had a license agreement with individual people, that's it. Whatever that "open source community" is you speak of, if I may myself call a fringe part of it for the sake of argument, Linus et al. surely did not represent me when they chose to go with BitKeeper in the first place.
This is all moot anyway, since the FSF never denied that it sees itself outside of any "open source community", so they would not be part of any commitment of this community to McVoy.
"The open source community" had no commitment to McVoy in any shape, way, or form. Only the individual people accepting the BitKeeper license (i.e., not Tridgell) had a commitment.
So interoperating with proprietary software on the protocol level is now bad? Why does this apply to a free bitkeeper client, but not to a free SMB/CIFS server?
People have an inherent concept of public vs. private space, just like they have an inherent concept of property. Neither of these things were magically created by feudalism, still less by industrialization.
There are precious few human characteristics that are inherent and equally applicable across all cultures. Not even what seems to us as subconscious bodily reaction, like laughing, is really the same everywhere. I strongly doubt that a complicated concept such as private life is.
Even animals like dogs understand the concept of territory, and they will fight when another animal intrudes on that territory.
Analogies from the animal kingdom are stupid because somewhere there is an example for everything. There are promiscuous animals, animals that wed for life, animals that are frequently gay (and wed for life among gays), etc., etc. You can find an example supporting each and every proposition.
while outside of your home, you might elect to wear a mask or makeup
It drives me nuts, but that's forbidden in many jurisdictions at least in the context of demonstrations, as it prevents government organizations and private fascist groups/nutcases to tape demonstration participants on video. See the Wikipedia article in German that explains the situation in Germany, Austria, and Switzerland. Dunno about other countries as I don't know the right search terms for Goggle.
1) You can format it with whatever fs you want. I'd recommend against journalling filesystems, at least on smaller devices, because the journal itself needs quite some space, and journalling won't buy you much anyway. However, a Windows box will only be able to read/write FAT or NTFS. (ext2/ext3 fs drivers are available for windows, but are quite a hassle)
2) SuSE doesn't offer it because you don't want to -install- Linux on a FAT system. FAT is unreliable and does no support many features of modern file systems (e.g., permissions). But you still want your Linux box to be able to read/write the USB stick from work, so losing legal FAT support would suck
What does that have to do with anything? Base libraries like GTK+ still have to be liberally licensed, otherwise app developers have to deal with a lot of problems. While for a major app, GPL is mostly the better choice.
The thing is, the business security implications of this are minor at worst, and none at best
A few high-profile incidents of this could destroy the 15,000 strong company I work for, depending on what is revealed.
The thing is, the business security implications of this are minor at worst, and none at best
Of those 15,000 around 10,000 routinely have contact email with clients, most of those every day. You can't prevent mistakes on that scale without being absolutely fascistic
Actually I found it pretty quickly, but yes, I was determined:) Anyway, I'm not in the US, but currently in Berlin (before that in Vienna), so I have some idea about reality in Eastern Europe. On the other hand, the company I work for has opened several offices in Easten Europe in the last decade, and my colleagues that worked there setting up operations had some pretty scary stories to tell about mafia interference and what not, so the sentiment that was expressed (botnets, etc.) is not -completely- off it seems, at least not everywhere.
Plus, "only 2 to 3 times more powerful than the cube", is an argument by someone who knows nothing about the cube
According to all developers, the cube is a dream to program for. Nintendo takes a great load off developers' shoulders by keeping the same architecture. Remember how developers complain about the costs if writing for the 360, and the PS3's Cell is a pretty unknown quantity altogether. Given Sony's track record, it won't be easy
The cube's graphics chip was capable of much better graphics than it delivered on the cube, because the CPU couldn't feed it quickly enough. Now they get an upgraded graphics chip and maybe 2 or 3 cores instead of the one on the cube's CPU. How is that so much worse than 360?
If it works out, they'll have a controller that -finally- enables new games instead of the same but better, and at the same time can be used by casual gamers
They'll have a huge library of older but still fun game classics for download
They'll have so unique games, be so small, and at the same time be so cheap, that gamers will want to have it as a 2nd console anyway
My understanding was that they would answer, "with my northern hand", "with my north-western hand", "with my western hand", depending on their orientation in their absolute frame of reference at the time.
It's different to what you are talking about, but still interesting that the concept of left and right is not at all universal. Shoot me as I have lost the reference, but I once read a study hinting that cultures who do not see themselves as separate from the world they live in (as do, e.g., the western cultures after the Renessaince, see the development of perspective in painting), seem to experience their body embedded in the world, too. The study showed that Aborigines that lived traditional lives experienced their body as not having a left/right/front/back side, but west/east/north/south, consequently being embedded in an absolute system at all times, and obviously changing with movement. South American indians living in mounainuous areas were said to have the concept of their bodies having uphill and downhill sides instead of left/right. The study of course had many more details, but it's been a long time.
Other extremely interesting aspects of the brain are explored in Zen and the Brain by James H. Austin, Professor Emeritus of Neurology at the University of Colorado. E.g., he describes a case where a patient with a certain damage in the cerebrum experienced himself as blind: he could not consciously experience the world with the visual sense. However, if you unexpectedly hurled an object towards the patient's face, he would dodge, as visual stimuli still reached the cerebellum and triggered reaction.
-1 Troll. Linux the kernel is "Linux (R)", and X runs on top of Linux, not of GNU* (but is part of GNU). RMS does not want the Linux kernel to be called GNU/Linux. This has been explained ad nauseam .
Mostly agreed. I just differ when you say, "there are a lot of things in computing that arent really metaphors anyway, computing should be learned as computing.". I mean yeah, this has some merit, but don't forget that in the end everything in a computer is an abstraction and a kind of metaphor. The CLI is. Directories are (even before being rechistened "folders").
Furthermore, so much is in the details. E.g., when for the first time many years ago, I saw a toolbox or tools icon for system settings , I went, "Ah, tools. Here I can adjust stuff. Let's see...". While my mom thought (or so she said), "This is an area I shall not touch. I don't know how to use tools anyway".
This is similar to what I meant about the folder stuff from earlier: if someone is very used to working with folders in real life, the mental leap to their function in a computer is not that big (although I agree with your point about preconceptions, etc.). But if one is not used to them IRL or even has learned for some reason to shy away, it's even harder to treat them differently than IRL just because they are used in a computer context.
Im tired of this. Contrary to what you try to believe, there's ample evidence that many people do not grasp computing metaphors easily. One reason for this is that they do not even use the metaphorical items in real life.. You don't have to believe me, try a 1st level helpdesk job for a while for fun. Or read up on UI stuff.
As of now, we don't have enough energy to allow everyone to live like those of us in 1st world countries
The problem here is that you lump Europe and other "1st world" countries in with the US, then take the US's insane per capita energy consumption as the baseline. The US uses more than 4 times as much energy per capita than the other G-7 nations, while the actual quality of life is very much comparable.
This can mostly be contributed to simple waste of energy. The details are on Google, but let me share a personal anecdote: on a business trip to NYC in June, the highrise airconditioning didn't ramp up quickly enough for a warm weather period. So the first 2 days it was terribly hot in the office. Then it grew colder until on the 4th day it was freezing cold. The people working there were already prepared and whipped out their radiant heaters, which from then on ran full throttle to combat the building's air condition that also was running on what seemed maximum power (the hallways, without radiant heaters, were too cold to stay there). When I returned in October, the same situation still prevailed.
So, simply by behaving like the other G-7 nations, the US could cut 80% of their energy consumption without any loss of quality of life. And this is although in Europe there is also a lot of wasting going on, and estimates here say that we could easily half the consumption, again without any loss of quality.
I think we could provide comparable qualities of life to the whole world, if the US (and to a lesser extent the rest of the "1st world") would stop acting as if it all belonged to them.
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Because the FSF does not want to have anything to do with Open Source. I gave the link to the relevant FSF text in another reply. It's many years old, you should try to read it some time.
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You haven't yet explained why interoperating (by telnet, since that's what Tridgell did) with a BitKeeper server is bad and interoperating with a SMB/CIFS client is good.
McVoy had a license agreement with individual people, that's it. Whatever that "open source community" is you speak of, if I may myself call a fringe part of it for the sake of argument, Linus et al. surely did not represent me when they chose to go with BitKeeper in the first place.
This is all moot anyway, since the FSF never denied that it sees itself outside of any "open source community", so they would not be part of any commitment of this community to McVoy.
"The open source community" had no commitment to McVoy in any shape, way, or form. Only the individual people accepting the BitKeeper license (i.e., not Tridgell) had a commitment.
So interoperating with proprietary software on the protocol level is now bad? Why does this apply to a free bitkeeper client, but not to a free SMB/CIFS server?
They haven't built anything up
I guess you haven't seen the Tokio Gameshow teaser video?
People have an inherent concept of public vs. private space, just like they have an inherent concept of property. Neither of these things were magically created by feudalism, still less by industrialization.
There are precious few human characteristics that are inherent and equally applicable across all cultures. Not even what seems to us as subconscious bodily reaction, like laughing, is really the same everywhere. I strongly doubt that a complicated concept such as private life is.
Even animals like dogs understand the concept of territory, and they will fight when another animal intrudes on that territory.
Analogies from the animal kingdom are stupid because somewhere there is an example for everything. There are promiscuous animals, animals that wed for life, animals that are frequently gay (and wed for life among gays), etc., etc. You can find an example supporting each and every proposition.
while outside of your home, you might elect to wear a mask or makeup
It drives me nuts, but that's forbidden in many jurisdictions at least in the context of demonstrations, as it prevents government organizations and private fascist groups/nutcases to tape demonstration participants on video. See the Wikipedia article in German that explains the situation in Germany, Austria, and Switzerland. Dunno about other countries as I don't know the right search terms for Goggle.
Oh, you said USB mp3 player. Scratch my answer 1) then, it's only valid for regular USB sticks. The other guy that replied got it right
1) You can format it with whatever fs you want. I'd recommend against journalling filesystems, at least on smaller devices, because the journal itself needs quite some space, and journalling won't buy you much anyway. However, a Windows box will only be able to read/write FAT or NTFS. (ext2/ext3 fs drivers are available for windows, but are quite a hassle)
2) SuSE doesn't offer it because you don't want to -install- Linux on a FAT system. FAT is unreliable and does no support many features of modern file systems (e.g., permissions). But you still want your Linux box to be able to read/write the USB stick from work, so losing legal FAT support would suck
What does that have to do with anything? Base libraries like GTK+ still have to be liberally licensed, otherwise app developers have to deal with a lot of problems. While for a major app, GPL is mostly the better choice.
And when comparing OOo to gnome office gnome people cite being GPL rather than LGPL as an advantage.
Because OOo is not a library.
Hi again. Are you an astroturfer? Funnily enough, when I read the thread, your post was shown immediately after this (later) one. 'Nuff said.
The thing is, the business security implications of this are minor at worst, and none at best
A few high-profile incidents of this could destroy the 15,000 strong company I work for, depending on what is revealed.
The thing is, the business security implications of this are minor at worst, and none at best
Of those 15,000 around 10,000 routinely have contact email with clients, most of those every day. You can't prevent mistakes on that scale without being absolutely fascistic
Actually I found it pretty quickly, but yes, I was determined :)
Anyway, I'm not in the US, but currently in Berlin (before that in Vienna), so I have some idea about reality in Eastern Europe. On the other hand, the company I work for has opened several offices in Easten Europe in the last decade, and my colleagues that worked there setting up operations had some pretty scary stories to tell about mafia interference and what not, so the sentiment that was expressed (botnets, etc.) is not -completely- off it seems, at least not everywhere.
Nah, I just thought I could have said so, and spared you from having to ask :)
Happy holidays too
Sorry, I realized what you meant after I had clicked submit. You are probably right.
My understanding was that they would answer, "with my northern hand", "with my north-western hand", "with my western hand", depending on their orientation in their absolute frame of reference at the time.
the concept of "left" can be lost
It's different to what you are talking about, but still interesting that the concept of left and right is not at all universal. Shoot me as I have lost the reference, but I once read a study hinting that cultures who do not see themselves as separate from the world they live in (as do, e.g., the western cultures after the Renessaince, see the development of perspective in painting), seem to experience their body embedded in the world, too. The study showed that Aborigines that lived traditional lives experienced their body as not having a left/right/front/back side, but west/east/north/south, consequently being embedded in an absolute system at all times, and obviously changing with movement. South American indians living in mounainuous areas were said to have the concept of their bodies having uphill and downhill sides instead of left/right.
The study of course had many more details, but it's been a long time.
Other extremely interesting aspects of the brain are explored in Zen and the Brain by James H. Austin, Professor Emeritus of Neurology at the University of Colorado.
E.g., he describes a case where a patient with a certain damage in the cerebrum experienced himself as blind: he could not consciously experience the world with the visual sense. However, if you unexpectedly hurled an object towards the patient's face, he would dodge, as visual stimuli still reached the cerebellum and triggered reaction.
-1 Troll. Linux the kernel is "Linux (R)", and X runs on top of Linux, not of GNU* (but is part of GNU). RMS does not want the Linux kernel to be called GNU/Linux. This has been explained ad nauseam .
:)
* Hmm, but now uses GNU autotools
Mostly agreed. I just differ when you say, "there are a lot of things in computing that arent really metaphors anyway, computing should be learned as computing.". I mean yeah, this has some merit, but don't forget that in the end everything in a computer is an abstraction and a kind of metaphor. The CLI is. Directories are (even before being rechistened "folders").
...".
Furthermore, so much is in the details. E.g., when for the first time many years ago, I saw a toolbox or tools icon for system settings , I went, "Ah, tools. Here I can adjust stuff. Let's see
While my mom thought (or so she said), "This is an area I shall not touch. I don't know how to use tools anyway".
This is similar to what I meant about the folder stuff from earlier: if someone is very used to working with folders in real life, the mental leap to their function in a computer is not that big (although I agree with your point about preconceptions, etc.). But if one is not used to them IRL or even has learned for some reason to shy away, it's even harder to treat them differently than IRL just because they are used in a computer context.
Im tired of this. Contrary to what you try to believe, there's ample evidence that many people do not grasp computing metaphors easily. One reason for this is that they do not even use the metaphorical items in real life.. You don't have to believe me, try a 1st level helpdesk job for a while for fun. Or read up on UI stuff.
As of now, we don't have enough energy to allow everyone to live like those of us in 1st world countries
The problem here is that you lump Europe and other "1st world" countries in with the US, then take the US's insane per capita energy consumption as the baseline. The US uses more than 4 times as much energy per capita than the other G-7 nations, while the actual quality of life is very much comparable.
This can mostly be contributed to simple waste of energy. The details are on Google, but let me share a personal anecdote: on a business trip to NYC in June, the highrise airconditioning didn't ramp up quickly enough for a warm weather period. So the first 2 days it was terribly hot in the office. Then it grew colder until on the 4th day it was freezing cold. The people working there were already prepared and whipped out their radiant heaters, which from then on ran full throttle to combat the building's air condition that also was running on what seemed maximum power (the hallways, without radiant heaters, were too cold to stay there). When I returned in October, the same situation still prevailed.
So, simply by behaving like the other G-7 nations, the US could cut 80% of their energy consumption without any loss of quality of life. And this is although in Europe there is also a lot of wasting going on, and estimates here say that we could easily half the consumption, again without any loss of quality.
I think we could provide comparable qualities of life to the whole world, if the US (and to a lesser extent the rest of the "1st world") would stop acting as if it all belonged to them.