But of course we don't care about all that here on/.
Exactly, because for RedHat and Ubuntu they count the fixes for all applications that come with the OS. For example, Ubuntu released Ubuntu Security Notice USN-467-1 on May 31, 2007: "gimp vulnerability". The numbers for Windows, however, do not include the vulnerabilities in Photoshop.
I agree with you and, being non-US, I wondered myself, where this comes from. Wikipedia
Coeducation is the integrated education of males and females at the same school facilities. The opposite situation is described as single-sex education. Most older institutions of higher education restricted their enrollment to a single sex at some point in their history, and since then have changed their policies to become coeducational.
Co-ed is a shortened adjectival form of co-educational, and the word co-ed is sometimes also used as a noun to refer to a female college student in the United States. The word is also often used to describe a situation in which both genders are integrated in any form (e.g. "The team is co-ed").
if a piece of hardware requires extra drivers for Windows, it comes with a driver CD. If you lose the CD you can easily download and install the drivers
What does this have to do with the topic of running the complete OS from a USB stick without any configuration?
Well, I think the ok solution then is to have them buy the ethernet thingy. I don't think forcing everyone for whom wifi works (probably the vast vast majority) to pay for a useless ethernet port would be a smart move.
If you distribute you have agreed, because otherwise you would be breaking copyright law.
Anyway this is not about distribution, but about whether they "convey, or propagate by procuring conveyance of" a covered work, which Eben Moglen is confident they will. How about actually reading the link?
I may have missed your reasoning on this, but why the avoidance of non-Ubuntu-sanctioned software?
Read an earlier part of the thread. The same guy I answer here complains there that package management is not as good as someone else made it look, since he cannot install FF2 in Ubuntu 6.06. I am just listing his options here.
"Get addicted to heroin" because "I just really want to know what it's like to have that kind of singular motivation".
I think it was Richard Hell Richard Hell who once said he preferred addiction to non-addiction, explaining that at least he knew what he depended on and was important go him, while non-addicts were caught in an invisible net of dependencies that ruled their life without them ever noticing.
Probably because OS X has more userfriendly methods to share mp3s across a network around a big house, and he didn't want to bother coming up with a complex Ubuntu solution. We are, however, discussing the mp3 codec installation, not arbitrary shortcomings of Ubuntu.
Not true, Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty) will prompt you and install missing codecs for you. This works as long as you stay with the default applications (that use gstreamer). Otherwise follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormat s
Well, until I get it figured out, I don't know if it does or doesn't have anything to do with compiling.
There is little to figure out: go to firefox.com, download, read instructions. If you google for 'install "firefox 2.0" "ubuntu 6.06"', you will find a list of neat links to help.
Oh come one. There are valid criticisms of Ubuntu, but yours isn't.
Say my grandmother clicks Applications -> Add/Remove and decides she doesn't want GAIM.
Geeky grandma you have here. Why would she want to remove Gaim? If she really wants to I guess she can deal with packages. (OTOH: yes the metapackage dependencies suck)
Next, say she want to listen to an MP3. She fires up Add/Remove again and installs the first one she finds. Audacity I think.
Why would she not simply either doubleclick the file or go to Applications|Sound and Video|Music Player? In addition, Audacity and xmms are not in the supported repository and thus not visible unless you enable the universe repo. You know surprisingly little about an Ubuntu install for someone makes so sweeping criticisms.
Maybe she deciedes to play GnomeNetHack instead. She launches it. It asks her her character info. Once that is complete it promptly disappears from her screen with absolutely no explanation of why, or where it has gone, or anything else.
GnomeNetHack is in universe. Plus it has a description that marks it a s pretty geeky. Not your usual granny game. What next, you will complain that emacs advertises itself as a programmer's editor and your granny still cannot program despite installing it?
There is no update to FF 2 for Ubuntu 6.06. It will stay at FF 1.5, and the dapper-backports also don't have an update. Your options are to upgrade Ubuntu 6.06 to a newer distro release, or to upgrade to FF2 by not using an Ubuntu package: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=330386
If it was true that 'despite what you read on websites and blogs, newspapers and magazines, people on the whole aren't all that dissatisfied with Windows. There are millions of users out there who just get on and use their PCs without any real difficulty.' you would think that I had met some of them, considering that I am responsible for the PCs of a 150 user department and in addition know a good deal of Windows users from other areas, privately. I have never met one who didn't have real problems working with her/his PC, or bitched about Windows in some way.
Apple even claims that their displays are higher in quality than can be found in any competing product, which is simply not true.
Call me weird, but it seems to me that most advertisements claim that the product they want to sell is better as the competitors, and this very often is not true.
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I live in Scandinavia. Here once they've had 3 attempts to "fix" your hardware, you have the right to a new one, or your money back.
But that's interference in the free market! Bloody Scandinavian communists.
But of course we don't care about all that here on /.
Exactly, because for RedHat and Ubuntu they count the fixes for all applications that come with the OS. For example, Ubuntu released Ubuntu Security Notice USN-467-1 on May 31, 2007: "gimp vulnerability". The numbers for Windows, however, do not include the vulnerabilities in Photoshop.
Looks to me as if they'd have a hard time suing you over patents though.
if a piece of hardware requires extra drivers for Windows, it comes with a driver CD. If you lose the CD you can easily download and install the drivers
What does this have to do with the topic of running the complete OS from a USB stick without any configuration?
If you build and sell millions, every cent is valuable. Plus it needs space.
Well, I think the ok solution then is to have them buy the ethernet thingy. I don't think forcing everyone for whom wifi works (probably the vast vast majority) to pay for a useless ethernet port would be a smart move.
If you distribute you have agreed, because otherwise you would be breaking copyright law.
Anyway this is not about distribution, but about whether they "convey, or propagate by procuring conveyance of" a covered work, which Eben Moglen is confident they will. How about actually reading the link?
That's actually an interesting point to ponder.
Since when does MS distribute GPL'd software from Novell?
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I may have missed your reasoning on this, but why the avoidance of non-Ubuntu-sanctioned software?
Read an earlier part of the thread. The same guy I answer here complains there that package management is not as good as someone else made it look, since he cannot install FF2 in Ubuntu 6.06. I am just listing his options here.
Argh, preview. "... and what was important to him ..."
"Get addicted to heroin" because "I just really want to know what it's like to have that kind of singular motivation".
I think it was Richard Hell Richard Hell who once said he preferred addiction to non-addiction, explaining that at least he knew what he depended on and was important go him, while non-addicts were caught in an invisible net of dependencies that ruled their life without them ever noticing.
Probably because OS X has more userfriendly methods to share mp3s across a network around a big house, and he didn't want to bother coming up with a complex Ubuntu solution. We are, however, discussing the mp3 codec installation, not arbitrary shortcomings of Ubuntu.
therefore are intangible to most
I don't think you know what (in)tangible means.
it's VERY hard
So? Coming up with all kinds of math was hard too, should it be patented?
Um, then he can stick to the first part, just download the damn thing and install it.
Not true, Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty) will prompt you and install missing codecs for you. This works as long as you stay with the default applications (that use gstreamer). Otherwise follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormat s
Well, until I get it figured out, I don't know if it does or doesn't have anything to do with compiling.
There is little to figure out: go to firefox.com, download, read instructions. If you google for 'install "firefox 2.0" "ubuntu 6.06"', you will find a list of neat links to help.
Oh come one. There are valid criticisms of Ubuntu, but yours isn't.
Say my grandmother clicks Applications -> Add/Remove and decides she doesn't want GAIM.
Geeky grandma you have here. Why would she want to remove Gaim? If she really wants to I guess she can deal with packages. (OTOH: yes the metapackage dependencies suck)
Next, say she want to listen to an MP3. She fires up Add/Remove again and installs the first one she finds. Audacity I think.
Why would she not simply either doubleclick the file or go to Applications|Sound and Video|Music Player? In addition, Audacity and xmms are not in the supported repository and thus not visible unless you enable the universe repo. You know surprisingly little about an Ubuntu install for someone makes so sweeping criticisms.
Maybe she deciedes to play GnomeNetHack instead. She launches it. It asks her her character info. Once that is complete it promptly disappears from her screen with absolutely no explanation of why, or where it has gone, or anything else.
GnomeNetHack is in universe. Plus it has a description that marks it a s pretty geeky. Not your usual granny game. What next, you will complain that emacs advertises itself as a programmer's editor and your granny still cannot program despite installing it?
Which version of Ubuntu? Movies and mp3s are work automatically and painlessly in 7.04
There is no update to FF 2 for Ubuntu 6.06. It will stay at FF 1.5, and the dapper-backports also don't have an update. Your options are to upgrade Ubuntu 6.06 to a newer distro release, or to upgrade to FF2 by not using an Ubuntu package: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=330386
So, umm, how do I install this Firefox update I downloaded? Running Ubuntu 6.06
I guess you run firefox-installer.bin or some such, as per the instructions. What does this have to do with compiling?
If it was true that 'despite what you read on websites and blogs, newspapers and magazines, people on the whole aren't all that dissatisfied with Windows. There are millions of users out there who just get on and use their PCs without any real difficulty.' you would think that I had met some of them, considering that I am responsible for the PCs of a 150 user department and in addition know a good deal of Windows users from other areas, privately. I have never met one who didn't have real problems working with her/his PC, or bitched about Windows in some way.
Apple even claims that their displays are higher in quality than can be found in any competing product, which is simply not true.
Call me weird, but it seems to me that most advertisements claim that the product they want to sell is better as the competitors, and this very often is not true.