Microsoft either actually were planning to deliver these features, but somehow didn't manage, or they deliberately misled people
My bet: Engineering came up with great ideas and those were communicated early in development. Then the Marketing and Lock-in departments cut the features left and right. For example because the ability to easily swap kernel or file system does benefit the customers and makes it harder to enslave them.
No problem. It's just that this has gone on for a long time (Warty IIRC), the Ubuntu devs warned users from the start, and the forums and mailing list have had to deal with the fallout ever since. In the beginning Automatix was even worse, using --force-depends and whatnot, and the author's ego was not particularly helpful. He didn't even believe the Ubuntu devs when they told him that Automatix was dangerous. (The Dapper version of Automatix is better as far as I know, but still can cause issues.)
But since Automatix filled a big need it spread like wildfire and the warnings could not catch up, because initially everything is fine until people want to upgrade. The whole affair is also a bit scary because it gives a glimpse into a future where Linux is used by the unwashed masses who immediately proceed to download stuff from random websites and run it as root *shudder*:)
Everything you say makes sense, but please note that I replied to phubar who had flatly stated that "Chinese does not have different 'r' and 'l' sounds. Nor does it differentiate between 't' and 'd,' 'p' and 'b' or 'g' and 'k.'".
Says who? Standard High Chinese ("Mandarin") certainly has differences between r, l, t, d, p, b, g, and k. In detail (I assume you use Pinyin):
r: similar to English r, tip of the tongue rolled upwards, voiced l: like in land or lung
t: like english t, tip of the tongue touches back side of upper front teeth, but strongly aspirated with audible breath following the sound d: like t but not aspirated; short
p: like english p, but strongly aspirated with audible breath following the sound b: like p, but not aspirated; short
g: similar to english g; not aspirated, not voiced k: strongly aspirated with audible breath following the sound; speak nearly like kh
Sometimes, yes, but the dates I can find are: Matthew 37-68 A.D., Mark 40-65 A.D., Luke 40-65 A.D., John 80-98 A.D.. So that puts some of the writing easily to 30-70 years after Jesus' death. And that certainly is a long time in which much can happen.
Not to forget of course the issue of how these original writings were selected (that is what became canon and what became apocrypha) and transmitted as well as translated.
Wow, great posting. I just didn't want to let the unqualified statement of the parent posting stand as it was, that the bible is "just a recollection by normal people of the events they had witnessed". From your writing I would assume that you do not agree with this either, after all it is even a broader stroke than I used. I don't need to fundamentally dispute anything of what you wrote, but would like to add a few things:
You wrote "these accounts were written EXTREMELY quickly - sometimes dated to within a decade or two of Jesus' death. Sometimes, yes, but the dates I can find are: Matthew 37-68 A.D., Mark 40-65 A.D., Luke 40-65 A.D., John 80-98 A.D.. So that puts some of the writing easily to 30-70 years after Jesus' death. And that certainly is a long time in which much can happen. Consider how eye-witness accounts of a car accident are often totally incongruent just seconds after the fact - man sees what he likes to see, and recollection is even more selective.
Then you wrote, "If the bulk of the writings of the New Testament are not fact, there was an incredibly efficient and influential group creating this stuff that so many people who knew the conditions of the time were duped into being tortured and dying for it."
Ever been on a demonstration were violent clashes with the police happened? I was and I can tell you that a group of people that feels beleaguered, put under pressure, and lied about can believe and be ready to die for a lot of things quickly. I have seen (incorrect) rumors develop and spread among thousands of people within minutes, and take root to such a degree that those people would have sworn to know exactly what happened. Elias Canetti's book, Crowds and Power contains a wealth of observations of how masses of people behave and function. You might be interested in looking into that.
but at worst it could be considered a history book.
No, at worst it is a book of made-up stories.
One that is just a recollection by normal people of the events they had witnessed (see #3).
You do realize that it is simply not true that all or even most bible parts are eyewitness accounts, yes?
Unless you can prove any of the accounts of the Bible false, then I will consider them facts.
That's a bad choice IMHO. At most you should consider them as accounts that were not disproved. Or do you also consider it fact until disproved if I tell you that a friend of mine can make his head explode?
Also, get Automatix to install codecs and apps that aren't included in the Ubuntu base distribution.
No, no, no, no! Please stop promoting this Automatix crap. It is still poorly implemented and is singlehandedly responsible for what is probably the majority of failed upgrades to new Ubuntu versions. If you recommend Automatix please also subscribe to the ubuntu-users mailing list and help the people that show up there with failed upgrades.
Better to follow the instructions for legally restricted formats or at least use EasyUbuntu which at least is saner than Automatix.
In addition, the GP explicitly said he wanted to use this machine as a web development machine, I don't know why he would need the restricted formats there anyway.
As I said, there are places for using BSD. One of those is if you have a new technology which profits from the network effect, and you want to establish it as a standard. Network protocols or network file systems are prime candidates for this. Solaris is not.
BSD licence? Hello? I don't think Sun prefers a license where everyone (MS) can copy stuff from Solaris into their proprietary products without giving anything back. BSD license may have its place, but this is not it.
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And guess what happened: each year a larger percentage of desktops were taken over.
Microsoft either actually were planning to deliver these features, but somehow didn't manage, or they deliberately misled people
My bet: Engineering came up with great ideas and those were communicated early in development. Then the Marketing and Lock-in departments cut the features left and right. For example because the ability to easily swap kernel or file system does benefit the customers and makes it harder to enslave them.
Vista introduced true UNIX-style symbolic links
The article is about how it doesn't.
Where are PDAs? Haven't seen one in ages.
Last time I checked, laptops aren't exactly being sold with 20GB of HD space.
:)
I'm not sure, do you mean "aren't exactly being sold with 20GB of HD space anymore"? Because last time I checked, the usual size was around 60 GB
No problem. It's just that this has gone on for a long time (Warty IIRC), the Ubuntu devs warned users from the start, and the forums and mailing list have had to deal with the fallout ever since. In the beginning Automatix was even worse, using --force-depends and whatnot, and the author's ego was not particularly helpful. He didn't even believe the Ubuntu devs when they told him that Automatix was dangerous. (The Dapper version of Automatix is better as far as I know, but still can cause issues.)
:)
But since Automatix filled a big need it spread like wildfire and the warnings could not catch up, because initially everything is fine until people want to upgrade. The whole affair is also a bit scary because it gives a glimpse into a future where Linux is used by the unwashed masses who immediately proceed to download stuff from random websites and run it as root *shudder*
making Wii only slightly better than a Gamecube (given its only slightly better CPU and graphics).
While saying that graphics-wise Wii is a match for PS3 or 360 would be lying, "slightly better" than the Gamecube is not true either.
Everything you say makes sense, but please note that I replied to phubar who had flatly stated that "Chinese does not have different 'r' and 'l' sounds. Nor does it differentiate between 't' and 'd,' 'p' and 'b' or 'g' and 'k.'".
and no, Chinese does not have different ...
Says who? Standard High Chinese ("Mandarin") certainly has differences between r, l, t, d, p, b, g, and k. In detail (I assume you use Pinyin):
r: similar to English r, tip of the tongue rolled upwards, voiced
l: like in land or lung
t: like english t, tip of the tongue touches back side of upper front teeth, but strongly aspirated with audible breath following the sound
d: like t but not aspirated; short
p: like english p, but strongly aspirated with audible breath following the sound
b: like p, but not aspirated; short
g: similar to english g; not aspirated, not voiced
k: strongly aspirated with audible breath following the sound; speak nearly like kh
Sometimes, yes, but the dates I can find are: Matthew 37-68 A.D., Mark 40-65 A.D., Luke 40-65 A.D., John 80-98 A.D.. So that puts some of the writing easily to 30-70 years after Jesus' death. And that certainly is a long time in which much can happen.
Not to forget of course the issue of how these original writings were selected (that is what became canon and what became apocrypha) and transmitted as well as translated.
Wow, great posting. I just didn't want to let the unqualified statement of the parent posting stand as it was, that the bible is "just a recollection by normal people of the events they had witnessed". From your writing I would assume that you do not agree with this either, after all it is even a broader stroke than I used. I don't need to fundamentally dispute anything of what you wrote, but would like to add a few things:
You wrote "these accounts were written EXTREMELY quickly - sometimes dated to within a decade or two of Jesus' death. Sometimes, yes, but the dates I can find are: Matthew 37-68 A.D., Mark 40-65 A.D., Luke 40-65 A.D., John 80-98 A.D.. So that puts some of the writing easily to 30-70 years after Jesus' death. And that certainly is a long time in which much can happen. Consider how eye-witness accounts of a car accident are often totally incongruent just seconds after the fact - man sees what he likes to see, and recollection is even more selective.
Then you wrote, "If the bulk of the writings of the New Testament are not fact, there was an incredibly efficient and influential group creating this stuff that so many people who knew the conditions of the time were duped into being tortured and dying for it."
Ever been on a demonstration were violent clashes with the police happened? I was and I can tell you that a group of people that feels beleaguered, put under pressure, and lied about can believe and be ready to die for a lot of things quickly. I have seen (incorrect) rumors develop and spread among thousands of people within minutes, and take root to such a degree that those people would have sworn to know exactly what happened. Elias Canetti's book, Crowds and Power contains a wealth of observations of how masses of people behave and function. You might be interested in looking into that.
but at worst it could be considered a history book.
No, at worst it is a book of made-up stories.
One that is just a recollection by normal people of the events they had witnessed (see #3).
You do realize that it is simply not true that all or even most bible parts are eyewitness accounts, yes?
Unless you can prove any of the accounts of the Bible false, then I will consider them facts.
That's a bad choice IMHO. At most you should consider them as accounts that were not disproved. Or do you also consider it fact until disproved if I tell you that a friend of mine can make his head explode?
Also, get Automatix to install codecs and apps that aren't included in the Ubuntu base distribution.
No, no, no, no! Please stop promoting this Automatix crap. It is still poorly implemented and is singlehandedly responsible for what is probably the majority of failed upgrades to new Ubuntu versions. If you recommend Automatix please also subscribe to the ubuntu-users mailing list and help the people that show up there with failed upgrades.
Better to follow the instructions for legally restricted formats or at least use EasyUbuntu which at least is saner than Automatix.
In addition, the GP explicitly said he wanted to use this machine as a web development machine, I don't know why he would need the restricted formats there anyway.
Redundant? Offtopic I can see ...
What are you trying to tell me with this link?
Wait for a few minutes and you'll see ;) In the meantime, you might want to read the FAQ
So, what's that got to do with OpenBSD?
Apple rides OpenBSD
What are you talking about?
What about not making the earth deserts bigger, for practice? I don't think anyone would complain.
You forget that first the electric power has to be produced and then transported. Both of which is very inefficient.
How is properly documenting their APIs and protocols "giving away all their valuable IP"?
A network file system != your OS crown jewels.
As I said, there are places for using BSD. One of those is if you have a new technology which profits from the network effect, and you want to establish it as a standard. Network protocols or network file systems are prime candidates for this. Solaris is not.
The Free Software Foundation has made no announcements on either of these developments.
The FSF statement will come on Monday in the official Sun press conference.
BSD licence? Hello? I don't think Sun prefers a license where everyone (MS) can copy stuff from Solaris into their proprietary products without giving anything back. BSD license may have its place, but this is not it.
land of free health care
I doubt dada21 is enrolled in a European insurance scheme.