Your example doesn't contradict the parent, considering you immediately break the "If" part of the "If then".
Also, your case assumes harm to the individual, not net harm to some greater group/entity (society, the world, etc). It seems to me like the distinction is important.
Yeah, but instant runoff voting can alleviate that aspect completely. Then you don't have someone that 67% of the people absolutely don't want in office getting in.
You are viewing this in a much more practical way than a teenage girl or boy does.
If I read online that some girl is an "Irish whore", I'm going to jump thoughts of hot redheads with loose morals - a complement!
In reality, no one cares what someone says on the internet. But to a teen being bullied it is the difference between being beaten up in an alley and being picked on in the high school quad in front of a jeering crowd.
Bullshit. How is Firefox going to support H.264 out of the box? The entire point of this discussion is to stop users from having to run around downloading "codec packs".
C'mon now troll, we don't need you clouding the argument.
Everyone wants to be watchful of fallacious arguments in a debate. Often they are pointed out where they do not exist, but just as often they are used and go unnoticed as reasonable rhetoric. I don't think you can call it a "Republican debating technique", even if certain intellectually dishonest reapers use it all the time. It is more of a liar's/fool's debating technique.
What are you talking about, faulty premise? That is not a 'premise' of this plan. In fact, the distinction is not meaningful at all to this situation; you are quibbling over how people on Slashdot refer to varieties of Rapidshare users.
Rapidshare is going to start making taken-down warez link to an online store where people can buy it from the owner. This does not rely on some distinction between "people who are pirates" and "people who are customers", it only distinguishes the act of someone trying to download infringing shit, and then suggests that someone (who just did attempt to pirate something) pay up.
P.S. Rapidshare is amazing for warez. Bandwidth out the ass if you pay for premium.
Erm. Software is, fundamentally, a collection of data inputs and NAND logic that is stored physically somewhere. The fact is, it is a mathematical logic construct that is being covered under a software patent. The data that represents the software is NOT patentable, it is copyrightable.
The abstract design of a physical application has many, many more variables than the abstract design of a mathematical construct, and exclusivity of a physical design rarely prohibits all other innovators from making progress without it.
True. Or, at least, it should be recognized that many things patentable today constitute some of the only reasonable ways to solve a common problem. Like "method of swinging on a swing" http://www.google.com/patents?id=T2QKAAAAEBAJ.
When someone engineers a basic combination of a couple of algorithms, they should either be denied a patent or receive, at most, a year of exclusive use.
One year is plenty of time to monetize on a useful idea.
If we don't have that, then consumers cannot choose their own preferred browser, or preferred media player.
Actually, if we DO have that, I cannot choose my preferred browser: an open source one. Yeah, big problem there for slashdotters - FOSS cannot implement H.264 because of the patent encumbrance.
Flip is not going to cease to exist one day because a submarine patent takes all their devices off the market. The entire MPEG-4 group would address the submarine patent, all the manufacturers are protected from litigation in this way. That's just not true with Ogg.
Licensing the H.264 pool does not protect you from submarine patents, but it doesn't matter as submarine patents are no longer viable.
It is true that it is incredibly important that codec management no longer be a complication for the user. HTML 5 handles this well: <video>
<source src='video.mp4'>
<source src='video.ogg'> </video>
There: it plays the "more advanced", more established, license-fee-encumbered codec if available. Otherwise, it falls back on the FOSS codec. There should be a single format that all browsers support, but this codec should not require an exorbitant license fee without excluding a huge segment of the browser market (FOSS). As for protection from patent trolls, it is reasonable to presume that Google will side with any other company that is targeted for use of Theora.
All browsers should support Theora, and publishers can host H.264 (or any other codec) seamlessly on top of that if they want.
The median percent of home value in property tax in WA is 0.81%, which puts it right around the median for all states (~25 states have lower median percent property tax).
-- I was raised on the command line, bitch This should be a pre-req to learning GUIs! Once you learn to hit "alt-f7" you've earned a graphical interface!
Yes! It disgusts me how much of our tax money is spent bombing third world countries, when our own infrastructure has rapidly fallen far behind the rest of the first world.
Why do we have some of the shittiest (long distance) public transportation in the world? I ride Amtrak and watch cars on the freeway zip by. It enrages me to know that there is only ONE high speed railway in the United States. What the fuck, Congress. What the fuck. Make national high speed rail happen already.
Why do we have AWFUL broadband coverage when it is crystal clear that fast, high bandwidth internet connectivity is a prerequisite to taking part in the global economy? This is an obvious public good, and the economic stimulus of providing it to all Americans is one of the greatest benefits the government could secure through spending my tax money. In Finland, everyone is entitled to 1Mpbs. In Japan they have fiber coming out their asses. What the fuck, Congress. Get your shit together and provide the tools people need to take part in normal first world living.
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Great example.
In other news, strong magnetic fields can cure idiotic notions of morality!
Your example doesn't contradict the parent, considering you immediately break the "If" part of the "If then".
Also, your case assumes harm to the individual, not net harm to some greater group/entity (society, the world, etc). It seems to me like the distinction is important.
I'm glad this is happening. It's a huge weight off my chest.
Yeah, but instant runoff voting can alleviate that aspect completely. Then you don't have someone that 67% of the people absolutely don't want in office getting in.
You could have just said "I agree".
You are viewing this in a much more practical way than a teenage girl or boy does.
If I read online that some girl is an "Irish whore", I'm going to jump thoughts of hot redheads with loose morals - a complement!
In reality, no one cares what someone says on the internet. But to a teen being bullied it is the difference between being beaten up in an alley
and being picked on in the high school quad in front of a jeering crowd.
Heh. That is obviously a risk.
However, they are not going to successfully prosecute hundreds of thousands of users.
Any machine has a physical, mass-taking representation. A program is fundamentally abstract in nature.
Just like you cannot patent a book, you copyright it.
Or you could copyright a file that held the physical descriptions of a machine.
Mobile support is the kind of thing worth adding an H.264 encoded video along with a Theora video for.
Any web content requires special considerations for mobile, and that is simply one of them.
Bullshit. How is Firefox going to support H.264 out of the box? The entire point of this discussion is to stop users from having to run around downloading "codec packs".
You sound libertarian to me, but I'm not sure how much in the way of public good services they are okay with.
And stop touting your dynamic political process with its... multiple parties. Any US citizen with half a wit is incredibly jealous already.
(cheers)
C'mon now troll, we don't need you clouding the argument.
Everyone wants to be watchful of fallacious arguments in a debate. Often they are pointed out where they do not exist, but just as often they are used and go unnoticed as reasonable rhetoric. I don't think you can call it a "Republican debating technique", even if certain intellectually dishonest reapers use it all the time. It is more of a liar's/fool's debating technique.
What are you talking about, faulty premise? That is not a 'premise' of this plan.
In fact, the distinction is not meaningful at all to this situation; you are quibbling over how people on Slashdot refer to varieties of Rapidshare users.
Rapidshare is going to start making taken-down warez link to an online store where people can buy it from the owner.
This does not rely on some distinction between "people who are pirates" and "people who are customers", it only distinguishes the act of someone trying to download infringing shit, and then suggests that someone
(who just did attempt to pirate something) pay up.
P.S. Rapidshare is amazing for warez. Bandwidth out the ass if you pay for premium.
Erm. Software is, fundamentally, a collection of data inputs and NAND logic that is stored physically somewhere. The fact is, it is a mathematical logic construct that is being covered under a software patent. The data that represents the software is NOT patentable, it is copyrightable.
The abstract design of a physical application has many, many more variables than the abstract design of a mathematical construct, and exclusivity of a physical design rarely prohibits all other innovators from making progress without it.
Well, that is really too bad.
I think it is more important to protect an individuals right to have ideas, than it is to protect an individuals right to exclusivity in those ideas.
It is impossible for me to engineer anything and ensure that I am not violating any idea anyone has ever claimed exclusivity to.
Well, that is really too bad.
I think it is more important to protect an individuals right to have ideas, than it is to protect an individuals right to exclusivity in those ideas.
It is impossible for me to engineer anything and ensure that I am not violating any idea anyone has ever claimed exclusivity to.
True. Or, at least, it should be recognized that many things patentable today constitute some of the only reasonable ways to solve a common problem. Like "method of swinging on a swing" http://www.google.com/patents?id=T2QKAAAAEBAJ.
When someone engineers a basic combination of a couple of algorithms, they should either be denied a patent or receive, at most, a year of exclusive use.
One year is plenty of time to monetize on a useful idea.
If we don't have that, then consumers cannot choose their own preferred browser, or preferred media player.
Actually, if we DO have that, I cannot choose my preferred browser: an open source one. Yeah, big problem there for slashdotters - FOSS cannot implement H.264 because of the patent encumbrance.
Flip is not going to cease to exist one day because a submarine patent takes all their devices off the market. The entire MPEG-4 group would address the submarine patent, all the manufacturers are protected from litigation in this way. That's just not true with Ogg.
Licensing the H.264 pool does not protect you from submarine patents, but it doesn't matter as submarine patents are no longer viable.
It is true that it is incredibly important that codec management no longer be a complication for the user. HTML 5 handles this well:
<video>
<source src='video.mp4'>
<source src='video.ogg'>
</video>
There: it plays the "more advanced", more established, license-fee-encumbered codec if available. Otherwise, it falls back on the FOSS codec.
There should be a single format that all browsers support, but this codec should not require an exorbitant license fee without excluding a huge segment of the browser market (FOSS). As for protection from patent trolls, it is reasonable to presume that Google will side with any other company that is targeted for use of Theora.
All browsers should support Theora, and publishers can host H.264 (or any other codec) seamlessly on top of that if they want.
The median percent of home value in property tax in WA is 0.81%, which puts it right around the median for all states (~25 states have lower median percent property tax).
(according to
http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Taxes/Advice/PropertyTaxesWhereDoesYourStateRank.aspx)
-- I was raised on the command line, bitch
This should be a pre-req to learning GUIs!
Once you learn to hit "alt-f7" you've earned a graphical interface!
Yes! It disgusts me how much of our tax money is spent bombing third world countries, when our own infrastructure has rapidly fallen far behind the rest of the first world.
Why do we have some of the shittiest (long distance) public transportation in the world? I ride Amtrak and watch cars on the freeway zip by. It enrages me to know that there is only ONE high speed railway in the United States. What the fuck, Congress. What the fuck. Make national high speed rail happen already.
Why do we have AWFUL broadband coverage when it is crystal clear that fast, high bandwidth internet connectivity is a prerequisite to taking part in the global economy? This is an obvious public good, and the economic stimulus of providing it to all Americans is one of the greatest benefits the government could secure through spending my tax money. In Finland, everyone is entitled to 1Mpbs. In Japan they have fiber coming out their asses. What the fuck, Congress. Get your shit together and provide the tools people need to take part in normal first world living.
Yes, the cure for heroin withdrawal is to shoot up more heroin. That is all.
If only the noise they generated was fake, we wouldn't have to listen to it.
http://www.myfoxla.com/dpp/health/caltech-nanotech-cancer-research-20100321