(ack! another derek from indiana...didn't think there was another one.:) )
just to address the standardized 8amest to 8pmpst thing.
the idea, as i understand it, is to make sure that voters out west aren't skewed/screwed by receiving the election results from the eastern half of the country. it's quite a reasonable idea, actually.
i wish i could agree with you, but most people in this country are either uninformed, or horribly misinformed. we've got to be damned near the most propogandized nation on the planet.
it's our own fault...i don't even consider myself well informed, and i pay more attention to the news than anyone in my immediate circle of family and friends.
it is not in best interest of either major party in the united states to inform people...it _is_ in their 'best' interest to toss around soundbites and catch phrases so that people can lull themselves into a feeling of being informed enough. people thinking for themselves doesn't keep campaign contributions coming in from those same people, and it doesn't give them the leverage to solicit large corporate donations.
i'm not so much mad at the individual politicians as i am fed up with _us_. we've put ourselves into a position where a monopoly (or trust, if you think more kindly of the democrats and republicans than i do,) dictates to us how we feel about everything...regardless of what the american people actually think or feel.
worse, most people who try to vote against this corruption by voting against candidates do so in a manner which only propogates the process...by simply voting for the other major party.
we do have choices, and we do have the power to affect change...i'm just not certain what it's going to take to make us realize it (nor will it last long if we do.)
actually, my first install was suse 5.3, and i thought it was pretty easy...right after i got done with it.:) partitioning gave me the willies at the time, because it wasn't something i'd ever done before, and i had no desire to bugger up the rest of my hard drive. after i got done, i thought "that was it??" the suse book helped alot...i've never understood what some people find so confusing about it.
debian (2.0) went fine until package selection time..._that_ confused the hell out of me.
i've got a copy of caldera 2.2, although i haven't installed it yet. i have, however, read the manual...and if i'm understanding it correctly, lizard looks great for someone completely clueless, but if you've any desire to customize as you install...like go through which packages you at install, you're screwed.
also, i rather like having 'the kitchen sink,' as the caldera puts it, rather than the 1 cd of programs they provide.
as for why there's so much talk about the install, i think it's because once you get up and running there's just not that much difference between any of the distros...not that i've seen anyway.
if you'd bothered to actually read the article, or look at their website you'd find that X/OS is producing their own linux distro, based off of red hat 6.0.
while i don't know whether they've experience with SCO or not, my guess is that they probably have used linux on one or two occasions.
>The US could not have had unpublicised manned >moon landings before Apollo 11.
while i'm not arguing your point that no u.s. astronauts have died in space, i'm not sure you're right about this.
i live about 50 miles north of the cape, and there are rockets going up on a regular basis with little to no explantion of what they are carrying. there's plenty of "classified military" work going into orbit.
you paid $20 for shipping to UPS, and then another $25 to a broker who files all the paperwork and obtains all the permits for the trucks.
i have no idea whether UPS has brokers on their payroll, or if they just contract with independant brokers. with as much shipping as UPS must be doing across the border, i find it hard to believe that they don't have them on the payroll...but who knows.
I think that the development of these 'RockSolid' distros is inevitable, and a good thing. It only makes good business sense...
We'll probably see this when some distro (probably Red Hat) feels they have enough momentum, and a rock solid app base to make a push for the home desktop environment. I also believe that this may happen in the relatively near future (a year or two.)
Frankly, we're almost there anyway...I'm a computer guru by no ones definition, but i have very few problems with the applications that i use crashing (I'm using SuSE 5.3, btw.) I'm not saying that I haven't had some difficulties in getting my system up and running, but these have been almost completely hardware related.... I'm well aware that I differ from most people in that I'm willing to try and dig to solve a problem, even if I've no idea of what I'm doing. However, I'm reasonably convinced that the amount of digging that I've actually had to do is pretty small.
Two other things I've not seen mentioned yet. 1) As time goes on, I think that the portability of Linux will be what makes it viable...particularly since _someone_ will be motivated to get it working on the bleeding edge (at least until something better comes along.)
2) If Linux becomes too bloated, or can't do the job anymore, then something else will come along that will. This isn't a bad thing...it's healthy.
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(ack! another derek from indiana...didn't think there was another one. :) )
just to address the standardized 8amest to 8pmpst thing.
the idea, as i understand it, is to make sure that voters out west aren't skewed/screwed by receiving the election results from the eastern half of the country. it's quite a reasonable idea, actually.
i'm sure something like that will be tried someday, but in the meantime, who would write the legislation?
i wish i could agree with you, but most people in this country are either uninformed, or horribly misinformed. we've got to be damned near the most propogandized nation on the planet.
it's our own fault...i don't even consider myself well informed, and i pay more attention to the news than anyone in my immediate circle of family and friends.
it is not in best interest of either major party in the united states to inform people...it _is_ in their 'best' interest to toss around soundbites and catch phrases so that people can lull themselves into a feeling of being informed enough. people thinking for themselves doesn't keep campaign contributions coming in from those same people, and it doesn't give them the leverage to solicit large corporate donations.
i'm not so much mad at the individual politicians as i am fed up with _us_. we've put ourselves into a position where a monopoly (or trust, if you think more kindly of the democrats and republicans than i do,) dictates to us how we feel about everything...regardless of what the american people actually think or feel.
worse, most people who try to vote against this corruption by voting against candidates do so in a manner which only propogates the process...by simply voting for the other major party.
we do have choices, and we do have the power to affect change...i'm just not certain what it's going to take to make us realize it (nor will it last long if we do.)
actually, my first install was suse 5.3, and i thought it was pretty easy...right after i got done with it. :) partitioning gave me the willies at the time, because it wasn't something i'd ever done before, and i had no desire to bugger up the rest of my hard drive. after i got done, i thought "that was it??" the suse book helped alot...i've never understood what some people find so confusing about it.
debian (2.0) went fine until package selection time..._that_ confused the hell out of me.
i've got a copy of caldera 2.2, although i haven't installed it yet. i have, however, read the manual...and if i'm understanding it correctly, lizard looks great for someone completely clueless, but if you've any desire to customize as you install...like go through which packages you at install, you're screwed.
also, i rather like having 'the kitchen sink,' as the caldera puts it, rather than the 1 cd of programs they provide.
as for why there's so much talk about the install, i think it's because once you get up and running there's just not that much difference between any of the distros...not that i've seen anyway.
if you'd bothered to actually read the article, or look at their website you'd find that X/OS is producing their own linux distro, based off of red hat 6.0.
while i don't know whether they've experience with SCO or not, my guess is that they probably have used linux on one or two occasions.
i just installed 5.0, and then later that night G2 (after i found out it had been released.) no problem with either on my suse 6.1 box...
>The US could not have had unpublicised manned >moon landings before Apollo 11.
while i'm not arguing your point that no u.s. astronauts have died in space, i'm not sure you're right about this.
i live about 50 miles north of the cape, and there are rockets going up on a regular basis with little to no explantion of what they are carrying. there's plenty of "classified military" work going into orbit.
you paid $20 for shipping to UPS, and then another $25 to a broker who files all the paperwork and obtains all the permits for the trucks.
i have no idea whether UPS has brokers on their payroll, or if they just contract with independant brokers. with as much shipping as UPS must be doing across the border, i find it hard to believe that they don't have them on the payroll...but who knows.
Isn't the statute of limitations 7 years? Or does that not apply here?
risking, hell...when your body parts start matching the color of that metal doohickey you're leaning against, you're done. ;)
I think that the development of these 'RockSolid' distros is inevitable, and a good thing. It only makes good business sense...
We'll probably see this when some distro (probably Red Hat) feels they have enough momentum, and a rock solid app base to make a push for the home desktop environment. I also believe that this may happen in the relatively near future (a year or two.)
Frankly, we're almost there anyway...I'm a computer guru by no ones definition, but i have very few problems with the applications that i use crashing (I'm using SuSE 5.3, btw.) I'm not saying that I haven't had some difficulties in getting my system up and running, but these have been almost completely hardware related.... I'm well aware that I differ from most people in that I'm willing to try and dig to solve a problem, even if I've no idea of what I'm doing. However, I'm reasonably convinced that the amount of digging that I've actually had to do is pretty small.
Two other things I've not seen mentioned yet.
1) As time goes on, I think that the portability of Linux will be what makes it viable...particularly since _someone_ will be motivated to get it working on the bleeding edge (at least until something better comes along.)
2) If Linux becomes too bloated, or can't do the job anymore, then something else will come along that will. This isn't a bad thing...it's healthy.
hey, then he could sue _THEM_ for causing his idea to evaporate due to stress....thus potentially losing him millions of dollars.
:)
and then watch their lawyers scatter trying to prove that an idea isn't worth anything.