It's nice to see somebody pick up on this and appreciate it. It was even more gratifying, when working with the author, to see that he wanted to integrate these ideas into the book from the start, and not just as an afterthought.
(In case you're wondering, I was the book's technical reviewer.)
Neither did the founding fathers believe in seperation of church and state as spewed forth by you, and the ACLU.
At least one of them (Jefferson) did. Other have already provided the source.
The phrase was meant to prevent there being an official religion where everybody has to pay a tax to that religion (like Great Britian & the Church of England).
Poppycock. The phrase (which you just said the Founding Fathers didn't believe in, then offer your own interpretation of - c'mon, which is it, now?) was intended to embody the idea that it's perhaps not such a good thing to let people get put in the stocks for not attending the right church.
Instead, that phrease is being used to force secular humanism as the official state religion.
This is a common mischaracterisation, usually promoted by those with an interest in seeing (their) religion dominate government and society. (It also seems to me that people who parrot their views tend not to have a very good grasp on such niceties as spelling, grammar, and the fundamentals of logic. But that's a rant for another time.) Secular humanism is not a religion. It is the absence of religion. Two entirely different things.
It's used to discriminate against Christians and trying drive them from the visible society while not being applied the same way to other religions.
No, it's used to keep at bay those who wish to see (their) religion dominate with the assistance of the state. Usually, this is some power-hungry brand of evangelical, fundamentalist Christianity. (Which then tends to turn round and immediately mischaracterise non-discrimination against gays as "preferential treatment". But that's a rant for another time.) But the principle applies equally (just for example) to Muslims who'd like to impose sharia, as well. (Please note: I am not suggesting this applies to all Muslims, any more than I'm suggesting it applies to all Christians. Many of my better neighbours happen to be Muslims.) It also means that I cannot expect any assistance from the government in promoting Discordianism, the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, or whatever religion I happen to think is cool this week.
Which - now that I think of it - is just the way I want it.
...support their governments' suppression of [Nazi propaganda and Holocaust denial]
In other words: 1. The French and German governments suppress Nazi propaganda and Holocaust denial. 2. These countries' citizens support this suppression.
Thanks, elp! I can always use a little extra cash.
While you're writing the cheque, I'll explain why your bet is wrong:
The MaxDB and MySQL codebases are entirely separate. The MySQL and MaxDB dev teams are also entirely separate, and have separate management and support teams as well. There's no MaxDB code in MySQL, nor the reverse.
MySQL stored routines, views, subqueries, etc. are in no way derived from MaxDB code.
Let me restate that unambiguously: There are no MaxDB features in MySQL, and there is no MaxDB code in MySQL. Zero. Zilch. Nada. Nichevo. And it's 99.9999% certain that there never, ever will be.
It would require years - if not decades - to perform any non-trivial merge of MaxDB code into MySQL. The build processes themselves are totally incompatible.
Anyone with even a passing familiarity with the code or development processes for these products knows this.
As I've already mentioned elsewhere in this discussion, Parallels seems to work quite well for what I need it for (building/testing ports of my employer's software - the coding's done by others), and it's only $49. Unfortunately, I don't think Solaris is supported.
However, while I like Parallels heaps better (it's much easier to install and configure IMO, and it uses fewer resources), VMWare Server is now free, and supports Solaris 9 and 10, which are two of our target platforms.
(I didn't realise that VMWare was once so expensive, but I see now that it used to be more like 5 or 6 hundred bucks... And yes, you can almost get a useful desktop PC for that. So please pardon my earlier snarkiness.)
I've been playing with Solaris, FreeBSD, and Windows 2000 under VMWare Server (host OS is SuSE 9.3). Not bad. (One caveat: For Sol-10 be sure to allocate at 512MB to the VM before doing the install, else your kids will have graduated school by the time it's done. But then, if you've installed Solaris before, you probably already figured that one out.) Last time I tried VMWare Workstation, it seemed to be suffering from the "Linux = Red Hat" mindset and they wanted me to recompile my stock SuSE 9.2 kernel just to install the thing. That wasn't necessary this time round, which is a big plus.
Has anyone else tried Parallels? It seems to be lots quicker than VMWare, and the installation is much less of a pain. The Workstation version is only 49 bucks. (Of course, now that you can get VMWare Server for free...) The only other drawback is that (last time I checked at least) it doesn't seem to support Solaris as a guest OS.
If you're like me and it would be useful to able to to test software on multiple platforms (company I work for supports about a dozen, including all the common ones running on x86), then the VMWare Server seems like a viable option.
I would still consider forking out for Parallels, however, if they added Solaris to their list of supported guest OSes.
Wonder if/when we'll see VMWare support for Mac/x86...?
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You forgot to mention that the gleeful ones are probably running Firefox on Windows XP and carrying on about how 1337 this makes them.
Back on topic: SeaMonkey seems much faster with regard to installation and general operation than Moz 1.7.
I guess somebody's been watching some MST3K tapes...
Anybody else remember Johnny Longtorso, "The Action Figure Who Is Himself Sold Separately"...?;)
Of course, Linux has always been this way - the difference being that you can choose from amongst about 90% of the Linux add-ons available for the price of an Internet connection.
That's like saying getting beaten up is a victory for a masochist.
I'm sure you thought that sounded clever, but it's anything but, and doesn't apply here at all.
I think this does count as a win, and not in "some abstract sense", either, but a real one. The bastards got caught out, and the entire change history is there for any and all to see. It's a win for openness and exposure of attempts at deception.
It would have been a loss if those edits had been made and there were no way to tell.
we get a bunch of conflicting quasi-anonymous edits, and no information to help us decide which are more valid.
Well, you do get the IP addresses of anonymous operators (as noted elsewhere in this discussion, there's one belonging to the US House of Representatives that's been blocked for abuse), and for those with accounts, you can look at their track record and context.
When you think about it, there are (as in quantum mechanics) no certainties in life - just statistical trends.
A nice followup to this might be banning political contributions from anyone other than private individuals, and limiting them to something easily affordable by the majority of citizens - say, $50.
And it doesn't seem to be getting any closer anytime soon. Is development on it even still active? There's not been a new Dia release in over a year now.
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WTF? Pardon me, but your arrogance is showing.
You forgot NDB Cluster and BerkeleyDB.
You mean, we can oxidise the hydrogen?
It's nice to see somebody pick up on this and appreciate it. It was even more gratifying, when working with the author, to see that he wanted to integrate these ideas into the book from the start, and not just as an afterthought.
(In case you're wondering, I was the book's technical reviewer.)
Nice going, Jeremy!
At least one of them (Jefferson) did. Other have already provided the source.
Poppycock. The phrase (which you just said the Founding Fathers didn't believe in, then offer your own interpretation of - c'mon, which is it, now?) was intended to embody the idea that it's perhaps not such a good thing to let people get put in the stocks for not attending the right church.
This is a common mischaracterisation, usually promoted by those with an interest in seeing (their) religion dominate government and society. (It also seems to me that people who parrot their views tend not to have a very good grasp on such niceties as spelling, grammar, and the fundamentals of logic. But that's a rant for another time.) Secular humanism is not a religion. It is the absence of religion. Two entirely different things.
No, it's used to keep at bay those who wish to see (their) religion dominate with the assistance of the state. Usually, this is some power-hungry brand of evangelical, fundamentalist Christianity. (Which then tends to turn round and immediately mischaracterise non-discrimination against gays as "preferential treatment". But that's a rant for another time.) But the principle applies equally (just for example) to Muslims who'd like to impose sharia, as well. (Please note: I am not suggesting this applies to all Muslims, any more than I'm suggesting it applies to all Christians. Many of my better neighbours happen to be Muslims.) It also means that I cannot expect any assistance from the government in promoting Discordianism, the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, or whatever religion I happen to think is cool this week.
Which - now that I think of it - is just the way I want it.
I thought we were supposed to come up with reasons why TC is a bad idea..?
The (Christian) "religious nuts" to which the GP refers don't recognise separation of church and state, either.
In other words: 1. The French and German governments suppress Nazi propaganda and Holocaust denial. 2. These countries' citizens support this suppression.
"A community driven black list" = "My neighbours get to tell me what I can and can't view."
FTN.
Eh? Ever hear of the Philippines?
(Hint: Whose army was tossed out of there by the Japanese in 1941/42?)
Thanks, elp! I can always use a little extra cash.
While you're writing the cheque, I'll explain why your bet is wrong:
The MaxDB and MySQL codebases are entirely separate. The MySQL and MaxDB dev teams are also entirely separate, and have separate management and support teams as well. There's no MaxDB code in MySQL, nor the reverse.
MySQL stored routines, views, subqueries, etc. are in no way derived from MaxDB code.
Let me restate that unambiguously: There are no MaxDB features in MySQL, and there is no MaxDB code in MySQL. Zero. Zilch. Nada. Nichevo. And it's 99.9999% certain that there never, ever will be.
It would require years - if not decades - to perform any non-trivial merge of MaxDB code into MySQL. The build processes themselves are totally incompatible.
Anyone with even a passing familiarity with the code or development processes for these products knows this.
I wonder if this is him...?
As I've already mentioned elsewhere in this discussion, Parallels seems to work quite well for what I need it for (building/testing ports of my employer's software - the coding's done by others), and it's only $49. Unfortunately, I don't think Solaris is supported.
However, while I like Parallels heaps better (it's much easier to install and configure IMO, and it uses fewer resources), VMWare Server is now free, and supports Solaris 9 and 10, which are two of our target platforms.
(I didn't realise that VMWare was once so expensive, but I see now that it used to be more like 5 or 6 hundred bucks... And yes, you can almost get a useful desktop PC for that. So please pardon my earlier snarkiness.)
Yes, and...? Python also has lambdas. For that matter, so does JavaScript.
Really? Please tell me where I can buy a new PC for $189.00.
Thanks!
> the font doesn't show all of them
No, you mean that your font doesn't show all of them. My default font is Helvetica, and it's easy to see.
I've been playing with Solaris, FreeBSD, and Windows 2000 under VMWare Server (host OS is SuSE 9.3). Not bad. (One caveat: For Sol-10 be sure to allocate at 512MB to the VM before doing the install, else your kids will have graduated school by the time it's done. But then, if you've installed Solaris before, you probably already figured that one out.) Last time I tried VMWare Workstation, it seemed to be suffering from the "Linux = Red Hat" mindset and they wanted me to recompile my stock SuSE 9.2 kernel just to install the thing. That wasn't necessary this time round, which is a big plus.
Has anyone else tried Parallels? It seems to be lots quicker than VMWare, and the installation is much less of a pain. The Workstation version is only 49 bucks. (Of course, now that you can get VMWare Server for free...) The only other drawback is that (last time I checked at least) it doesn't seem to support Solaris as a guest OS.
If you're like me and it would be useful to able to to test software on multiple platforms (company I work for supports about a dozen, including all the common ones running on x86), then the VMWare Server seems like a viable option.
I would still consider forking out for Parallels, however, if they added Solaris to their list of supported guest OSes.
Wonder if/when we'll see VMWare support for Mac/x86...?
You forgot to mention that the gleeful ones are probably running Firefox on Windows XP and carrying on about how 1337 this makes them.
Back on topic: SeaMonkey seems much faster with regard to installation and general operation than Moz 1.7.
I guess somebody's been watching some MST3K tapes...
;)
Anybody else remember Johnny Longtorso, "The Action Figure Who Is Himself Sold Separately"...?
Of course, Linux has always been this way - the difference being that you can choose from amongst about 90% of the Linux add-ons available for the price of an Internet connection.
(He's LONG!)
I'm sure you thought that sounded clever, but it's anything but, and doesn't apply here at all.
I think this does count as a win, and not in "some abstract sense", either, but a real one. The bastards got caught out, and the entire change history is there for any and all to see. It's a win for openness and exposure of attempts at deception.
It would have been a loss if those edits had been made and there were no way to tell.
Well, you do get the IP addresses of anonymous operators (as noted elsewhere in this discussion, there's one belonging to the US House of Representatives that's been blocked for abuse), and for those with accounts, you can look at their track record and context.
When you think about it, there are (as in quantum mechanics) no certainties in life - just statistical trends.
So we're supposed to give the guy with the greatest number of dollars the greatest opportunity to speak?
How is this any different than what we've got now?
I've a better idea: trash the legal fiction that corporations are persons. Which is actually based on a misreading of a Supreme Court decision.
A nice followup to this might be banning political contributions from anyone other than private individuals, and limiting them to something easily affordable by the majority of citizens - say, $50.
Discuss.
Amen! That's the first thing I installed on my Windows server the last time I rebuilt it. :)
Unfortunately, Dia just isn't quite there yet.
And it doesn't seem to be getting any closer anytime soon. Is development on it even still active? There's not been a new Dia release in over a year now.