Sorry, I'm a Gentoo user with less than enough spare time. You have 5 minutes to explain SELinux if I'm going to use it, I have ten to implement it. Go ahead.
P.S. Last time I installed it, all sorts of nasty things happened to my pre-compiled stuff. What would you do about those? Clock is ticking.
if they can get you to download, chmod and run their code they can install an invisible rootkit capable of all the nastiness that Windows rootkits can do If I can convince an admin to install my rootkit, the problem is not with the OS. Difference is, *nix systems DO ask for permission to do nasty things as root.
3) Even if they didn't have "support" from microsoft, Dell was already handling some of the support for their XP machines, so it's not fair to say it's unsupported, just "unsupported by vendor"
How many critical security bugs has Dell fixed lately?
Well, that depends on how many bugs you count for Windows... http://dell.com/open/ Just in case you weren't trolling, the context made my point clear, I think.
I was going to moderate, but I can't let this one slide.
normal users don't run with the sort of privileges that would allow the virus (or trojan as in your example) to do very much damage or replicate itself. A normal user has access to the network and a home directory. How is that not enough for a virus?
Sure, it can't burn itself into the registry or equivalent, but it sure as hell can replicate itself. Hell, it can even cause a lot of headaches when you're lazy like me and have a whole drive mounted in/home/jurily/stuff with full write access.
Trojans are a different beast, of course, as they rely on the OS more heavily.
3) Even if they didn't have "support" from microsoft, Dell was already handling some of the support for their XP machines, so it's not fair to say it's unsupported, just "unsupported by vendor" How many critical security bugs has Dell fixed lately?
As always, it sounds good on paper. Can we possibly make it healthy enough without recreating the whole package? Also, can we make it healthy enough for regular consumption?
Alternatively, we could eat those PETA supporters so that we don't have to kill those poor livestock bred for precisely that purpose. Would they have a different flavor?
because my employer won't buy from China... what with the phone home possibilities of hardware and all. Let me guess: this is a pure Open Source company, right?
The U.S. government's inability to dictate a consistent cyber commerce protection policy is creating a financial burden on the U.S. private sector to maintain a status quo, when those resources could be used to mount a more-effective Internet-focused defense. BINGO!
Laplace's demon comes to mind.
While Laplace saw foremost practical problems for mankind to reach this ultimate stage of knowledge and computation, later interpretations of quantum mechanics, which were adopted by philosophers defending the existence of free will, also leave the theoretical possibility of such an "intellect" contested.
They don't need to do that.
Corporations that have donated at least $500,000 to both Gore and Bush
[Source: Jim Hightower]
AT&T
Philip Morris
Amer Financial Group
Microsoft
Atlantic Richfield Co.
SBC Communications
Enron
Mirage Resorts
Federal Express
Citigroup
Amer Airlines
Bell Atlantic
Anheuser-Busch
Limited Inc.
Pfizer
Rite Aid
Schering-Plough
BellSouth
Joseph E. Seagram & Sons
Bristol-Myers Squibb
Union Pacific
Blue Cross & Blue
Shield
MBNA Corp
America Online
Amer Intl Group
MCI Worldcom
Ernst & Young
Circus Circus
Enterprises
Sprint
AFLAC
Time Warner
Boeing
Prudential Insurance
Ocean Spray Cranberries
Paine Webber
MGM Grand
Archer Daniels Midland
Walt Disney
Coca-Cola
Flo-Sun Sugar Co.
Lockheed Martin
Intl. Game Technology
United Airlines
Oracle
Exxon Mobil
United Technologies
US West
Pacific Gas & Electric
Upjohn
Owens Corning
Chevron
Park Place
Entertainment
Bacardi Martini USA
Boston Capital Partners
Eli Lilly & Co.
Georgia-Pacific
Amer Home Products
Amer Express
Bechtel Group
Loews Corp
Sunoco
General Electric
Northern Telecom
General Dynamics
New York Life Insurance
United HealthCare Now, folks, who do you think will win the election? Or does it really matter a damn? Robert Anton Wilson
Cool ad. Is the "STAY AWAY!!!" logo on the booting screen too?
Yet.
Sorry, I'm a Gentoo user with less than enough spare time. You have 5 minutes to explain SELinux if I'm going to use it, I have ten to implement it. Go ahead.
P.S. Last time I installed it, all sorts of nasty things happened to my pre-compiled stuff. What would you do about those? Clock is ticking.
Like I said, I'm lazy. /home/jurily/bin DOES have exec permissions. I like to keep my custom scripts away from portage.
And yes, this is a security/convenience trade-off. I'm a programmer. I don't have time to setup a user just for my executables, thank you.
Noexec is fine for an average user, but where should I, the programmer, put all my stuff?
Sure, it can't burn itself into the registry or equivalent, but it sure as hell can replicate itself. Hell, it can even cause a lot of headaches when you're lazy like me and have a whole drive mounted in
Trojans are a different beast, of course, as they rely on the OS more heavily.
Actually, for GW to be tested, we would need another planet to play with.
What they need is the Total Perspective Vortex
Ever tried to swallow a defribrillator?
Yes, it has. Hence the need for anti-trust laws.
As always, it sounds good on paper. Can we possibly make it healthy enough without recreating the whole package? Also, can we make it healthy enough for regular consumption?
Alternatively, we could eat those PETA supporters so that we don't have to kill those poor livestock bred for precisely that purpose. Would they have a different flavor?
Yeah, all those adblock and noscript users are a real burden on their servers.
Umm... duh?
The preview button has been there for as long as I can remember. It was sarcasm.
What we need is an append-only mode, with timestamps.
(Or maybe a preview button.)
2 years is a long time in computing. Don't let the MS release cycle fool you.
They still need sharks, just to be on the safe side.
Like when the US spent a lot of money to develop a pen that can write without gravity, while the russians used pencils?
Awww. Wikipedia says it's just an urban legend. But that won't stop me from posting.
Make your own story with microsoft and goatse, but please keep them away from the internet.
[Source: Jim Hightower]
AT&T
Philip Morris
Amer Financial Group
Microsoft
Atlantic Richfield Co.
SBC Communications
Enron
Mirage Resorts
Federal Express
Citigroup
Amer Airlines
Bell Atlantic
Anheuser-Busch
Limited Inc.
Pfizer
Rite Aid
Schering-Plough
BellSouth
Joseph E. Seagram & Sons
Bristol-Myers Squibb
Union Pacific
Blue Cross & Blue
Shield
MBNA Corp
America Online
Amer Intl Group
MCI Worldcom
Ernst & Young
Circus Circus
Enterprises
Sprint
AFLAC
Time Warner
Boeing
Prudential Insurance
Ocean Spray Cranberries
Paine Webber
MGM Grand
Archer Daniels Midland
Walt Disney
Coca-Cola
Flo-Sun Sugar Co.
Lockheed Martin
Intl. Game Technology
United Airlines
Oracle
Exxon Mobil
United Technologies
US West
Pacific Gas & Electric
Upjohn
Owens Corning
Chevron
Park Place
Entertainment
Bacardi Martini USA
Boston Capital Partners
Eli Lilly & Co.
Georgia-Pacific
Amer Home Products
Amer Express
Bechtel Group
Loews Corp
Sunoco
General Electric
Northern Telecom
General Dynamics
New York Life Insurance
United HealthCare
Now, folks, who do you think will win the election? Or does it really matter a damn? Robert Anton Wilson