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  1. Legal documents about Yahoo v. France on Yahoo Knuckles Under · · Score: 5
  2. Re:Libel is the applicable charge on Apple Sues Freetype - NOT (updated) · · Score: 1
    How does the quote go?

    "It would be easier to give Bella Azbug a hickey on the nose than to sue a cartoonist for libel" - Steve Dallas, Bloom County

    Apple is not going to sue. It's not worth it. There has to be a reason to go to all the trouble for calling in lawyers.

    Besides, journalists are invulnerable.

  3. Different questions - configuration vs. features on Best Supported Video Card For Linux/XFree86? · · Score: 2
    I think there are two very different questions:

    1) Which card will give a screen, right out of the box, with XFree86 standard configuration
    2) Which card has the most goodies, acceleration, 3D instructions, multiprocessing, cheese-grating, etc., best supported under XFree86

    For question one, lots of popular cards work, if they've been out for a while.

    For question two, that's a whole debate.

  4. Relevant bill section for ADULTS and LIBRARIES on Censorware to be Mandatory in Schools, Libraries · · Score: 2
    ``(C) CERTIFICATION WITH RESPECT TO ADULTS.--A certification under this paragraph is a certification that the library--

    ``(i) is enforcing a policy of Internet safety that includes the operation of a technology protection measure with respect to any of its computers with Internet access that protects against access through such computers to visual depictions that are--

    ``(I) obscene; or
    ``(II) child pornography; and
    ``(ii) is enforcing the operation of such technology protection measure during any use
    of such computers.

    http://sethf.com/anticensorware/smartfilter/gotali st.php
    http://sethf.com/anticensorware/smartfilter/greate stevils.php

  5. More important reason this is not like CDA on Censorware to be Mandatory in Schools, Libraries · · Score: 2
    Much more important difference:

    4. The CDA was a criminal law.
    This bill is a funding condition.

  6. Re:Another side effect.... on Censorware to be Mandatory in Schools, Libraries · · Score: 1
    Yes, for example, SmartFilter runs under Linux. I did my SmartFilter reports on my Linux box :-). CyberPatrol has also been ported to Linux.

  7. Michael Sims shut-down of Censorware Project site on Censorware to be Mandatory in Schools, Libraries · · Score: 5
    Dear moderators: This message is not a troll. It can be checked for authenticity against the archived copy on egroups, at http://www.egroups.com/message/cyberia-l/32993

    I believe, given what Michael Sims (yes, that Michael Sims, Slashdot/YRO editor) did against Censorware Project, this information is important to this discussion. And I'll take any karma hit for it.

    The http://censorware.org site has been taken down since the following was posted, more than a month now.

    Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 16:49:46 EST
    To: CYBERIA-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
    From: Jonathan Wallace <jw@BWAY.NET>
    Subject: The Censorware Project

    I've been trying hard to avoid washing dirty laundry in public, but a couple of recent posts have raised the issue and I'd like to give an account of what happened to the Censorware Project (the site at http://censorware.org is now offline). What we have here is the spectacle of a group member who volunteered to act as webmaster effectively closing a group which wants to continue, because the domain happened to be registered in his name.

    The Censorware Project was originally an informal collective of six people who collaborated online to fight censorware: Seth Finkelstein, Bennett Haselton, Jamie McCarthy, Mike Sims, Jim Tyre and myself. After Seth left the group, the remaining five continued. Several of us had never met or even spoken on the phone, yet for some time--around two years as I recall--we had a remarkably easy collaboration. There was no funding, no hierarchy, no titles, not even project managers. Someone would suggest a project and take the responsibility for a part of it, others would sign up for other elements, and proceeding this way we got a remarkable amount of work done, including reports on X-Stop, Cyberpatrol, Bess and other products.

    Even though two of us were attorneys--Jim and myself--we never incorporated the group or wrote a charter or any contracts among ourselves. Mike Sims was obliging enough to register the domain, just as other members paid for press releases and the other incidental expenses which came along.

    Robert Frost said that "nothing gold can stay," and the Censorware Project was no exception. Over the summer, Mike Sims' reaction to a perceived slight was to take the site down for a week, exactly as Seth says in his mail. He sent us mail at the time saying something like "The Censorware Project is over." I replied to him that, given that the group was a collective and we all had an interest in its work product, the domain, and the goodwill it had achieved, the decision was not his to make. Sims did not reply.

    Mike put the site back up a week later without explaining, let alone apologizing for, his actions. Given his continuing failure to answer any email from me (and I think from others) and the overall signs that Sims thought the group was exclusively his, I wrote him several emails requesting that he turn the domain over to Jamie or Bennett, as I felt we could no longer trust him to administer it. We also found out during that time that important email from people trying to contact us, including members of the press, was not being answered by Sims, nor being forwarded to other members.

    I ultimately became exasperated that my name was listed as a principal on what had now become a "rogue" site I had no control over. Over about a five week period, I wrote Sims several more emails asking him to delete my name from the site if he wasn't going to transfer the domain. Again, I received no reply.

    Today, Sims took the Censorware Project site offline again, with a message which says "Due to demands from some of the people who contributed, in however minor a fashion, to this site, it has been taken down." Judging from some email I received from him today, this means me.

    Its a sad thing, both because we got some good work done and because some of the other members of the group were eager to continue and in fact have continued working, while deprived of the Censorware Project site, name, email aliases and public recognition. These further efforts are appearing on Bennett Haselton's Peacefire site, www.peacefire.org. (I applaud the work but take no credit as I have not been involved in some time.)

    On the page currently at www.censorware.org Sims makes the following request: "If you are interested in volunteering to fight censorware, please contact me." One of the reasons I made this post was so that anyone considering working with Mike can make an informed decision.

  8. MAPS is *seige* *warfare* on MAPS RBL Is Now Censorware (Updated) · · Score: 2
    MAPS is the equivalent of blockades and total sanctions. Every man, women, and child (i.e. site) in the targeted country (i.e. ISP) is going to be made to suffer, under the theory that they will then be motivated to fight the enemy (the spammer or all supporters).

    War Is Hell :-(

  9. Re:These are getting redundant - huh? on SmartFilter: Way Too Extreme · · Score: 2
    They all say the exact same thing ...

    What other reports have an extensive discussion of The Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) and the legal risks involved in anticensorware investigations?

    Hey, at least enjoy the section header quotes :-)

    Note a basic finding is that one has no idea about the actual content of the categories. It's common for "Sex" to have everything from feminism to gay rights.

    SmartFilter - I've Got A Little List is at
    http://sethf.com/anticensorware/smartfilter/gotali st.php

  10. Re:Er -- so what? on SmartFilter: Way Too Extreme · · Score: 3
    Your kid comes to you, and says, "Dad, I want to read news:soc.support.youth.gay-lesbian-bi because I think I might be gay", and you say ...

    Please also read the discussion about Federal legislation in this area, and legal risks for investigators.

  11. They AREN'T changed, the form is *DUMB* on SmartFilter: Way Too Extreme · · Score: 4

    Type in as:
    http://www.insaneclownposse.com
    http://www.gcsextreme.com
    http://www.extreme-offroad.com

    If you don't type that EXACTLY (http and www,
    not case-sensitive), you will get a misleading result

  12. The title says "Journalistic Integrity" - typo? on Journalistic Integrity in the Digital Age? · · Score: 3

    I'm puzzled. This article starts with the phrase "Journalistic Integrity". That must be a typo for something, but I can't figure out what.

  13. Update: Later article say Akamai WILL fix on Censorware Blocking Methods Using Akamai · · Score: 5
    Akamai acknowledged today that the technique is effective but said it would be short-lived.

    "Akamai has a lot of mechanisms in our system that would render this approach ineffective immediately," said company representative Jeff Young. "Akamai will shut down the delivery of content that is accessed in this way, so users that would follow these instructions would very quickly be served broken images and downed sites."

    http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/cn/20000822/tc/akamai _caught_in_net_filtering_cross-fire_1.ht ml
  14. Re:I can see it now: on Groening Says The Simpsons Movie Planned · · Score: 1
    No, no:
    From the
    Town of Spring-field
    Meltdowns are ord-in-ary
    (show Homer crashing into a nuclear containment tower, not a tree)
  15. Napster court analogy humor on Slashback: Rumination, Apologies, Kisses · · Score: 3
    This was hilarious - regarding an amount of a bond to be posted:
    Ramos: I begin by reference to your honor's analogy about the orphan asking for the mercy of the court. This is the orphan not only asking for the mercy of the court but asking the court for compensation for the loss of the parents the orphan killed.
  16. Napster - key point was SUPERVISION on Slashback: Rumination, Apologies, Kisses · · Score: 3
    The court: But plaintiffs have argued, and I think persuasively, that defendant is capable of exercising supervisory powers over its service.
    This is a key element of the ruling. Napster was not just providing a device, with no assocation with the user after a sale. To wit:
    Although defendant, as I said, contends that it is technologically difficult to distinguish copyrighted and authorized from not copyrighted or copyrighted and unauthorized, defendant has taken great paints to inform the court about methods it uses for blocking users about whom rights holders complain. The defendant can in fact police, and will have to given the nature of its program and the very purposes of it, police its service. And the court finds that, in fact, the defendant does have the right and ability to supervise.
  17. Re:Declan was never a friend of DeCSS - REAL INFO on Civil Disobedience and DeCSS · · Score: 2
    I've now checked out the charges. The Livid-dev people have plenty of reason to be livid at Declan. Consider this extensive critique of Declan's actions:

    - irresponsibly sensationalized an innocent effort to get DVDs running under Linux into a Grand Piracy Conspiracy against the MPAA/DVD Forum, against all evidence and contrary to reality
    - made the situation worse with followups equally inaccurate
    [ real people are suffering real problems as a result, with colassal financial loss looming, not to mention possible criminal charges which, while they are innocent (at least in intent, though perhaps not on a technicality as the laws have been so severely revamped in favor of the MPAA in the last couple of years, at least in the US and UK), will probably devistate them financially to defend against. ]
    - a refusal to take responsibility for your own shoddy work, blaming instead the victims for not wanting to talk to you, or not talking to you in a timely enough manner to meet your schedule, or a short deadline. While these may have contributed, you are the one who went with the story as is, knowing you didn't have the full
    [ one 15 year old developer has already informed you on this list that he was in school at the time and unable to get, much less respond to, your requests before your ran your story ]
    - an arrogant, unrepented, and calous attitude, where you appear to be more concerned with the (remarkably mild) flames you have received here, yet show little or no concern to the lives you've helped to throw into disarray through the inaccurate stories that were run

    I would imagine if I were one directly affected, my perspective of your behavior would be even less flattering.

    Definitely read the thread Wired article on legal threats. Classic Declan.

    I think the original writer read too much into Jamie's posting the link. But, frankly, I understand the reaction.

  18. Re:Declan was never a friend of DeCSS on Civil Disobedience and DeCSS · · Score: 1
    I can back up reasons why it's worth checking out.

    Yeah, Declan is well-known and says popular things. But he also backstabs and uses people who are fool enough to trust him.

    For the most recent example (that I know), check out this Peacefire press release about Declan plagiarism

    Ironically, I told the guy not to deal with Declan. Being proven right was a very sad I-told-you-so.

  19. Re:Declan was never a friend of DeCSS on Civil Disobedience and DeCSS · · Score: 2
    Well, maybe it's time I burn some karma

    I will check out your charges.

    I have known Declan McCullagh since 1994, and helping him was one of the greatest regrets of my free-speech work. I can attest from personal experience that he will backstab people and increase their risk of being sued, if he sees any advantage to it. I've posted about this a while back on the dvd-discuss list, so I'm not trolling.

    HOWEVER ... I know of no "rapport" of his with slashdot (but, umm, actually that would explain a few things ... hmm ...). What is this rapport of which you speak?

  20. Re:MPAA must go! on Civil Disobedience and DeCSS · · Score: 1
    Stuff like this is going to make the boys at havenco VERY rich some day.

    Or given very long jail sentences.

  21. Being sued is no cocktail-party on Civil Disobedience and DeCSS · · Score: 2
    ... defendants are going to lose.

    There's something here to keep in mind. These issues, these legal battles, they aren't just flame-wars. We can't killfile the MPAA. We can't bitbucket a court order. We can't give a judge negative karma. Too many people have bought into the idea that we exist in a world that is unaffected by the powerful forces which shape society. Governments, large corporations, big-money. They are real. They affect you. If the actions of programmers are inimical to these interests, they can fight back with a vengeance. This lesson MUST always be remembered.

  22. I can see it now - #fedbait on ChatScan Search Engine · · Score: 2
    Soon someone will write a 'bot to attract the attention of scanning 'bots ...

    This reminds me of stories of Communist Party cells where every member was an FBI agent reporting on all the others.

  23. T-1000 To Replace Mulder ... on T-1000 To Replace Mulder On 'The X-Files' · · Score: 1

    Adds new meaning to the idea of a robotic actor
    And killing the audience

  24. Gorge Carlin said it best, about semantics on Artificial Intelligence At The COPA, COPA Commission · · Score: 2
    http://www.webveranda.com/barry/seven.html

    Like, ah, snatch, box and pussy all have other meanings, man. Even in a Walt Disney movie, you can say, We're going to snatch that pussy and put him in a box and bring him on the airplane
  25. BAIR, Wired plagiarism charges, Peacefire on Artificial Intelligence At The COPA, COPA Commission · · Score: 2
    Here is part of the second press release that went out regarding the topic (posted with general permission, though all blame and negative karma is my fault)

    Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 18:36:36 -0500
    From: "Bennett Haselton"
    Sender: owner-peacefire-press@iain.com
    To: peacefire-press@iain.com
    Subject: Wired News reporter responds to plagiarism charges
    Reply-To: Bennett Haselton

    [sent to journalists on Peacefire's press contacts list]

    (this is unpleasant business and not exactly news, so I wouldn't blame you for skipping this message, but original post about the Wired article did get a lot of responses)

    The Wired News reporter, Declan McCullagh, who wrote the story about the BAIR filter based on our report at:
    http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,36923, 00.html
    has responded to our plagiarism accusations in a message posted to a message board on WELL.com, copied below (the actual message boards are only available to WELL customers).

    I do believe, as Declan says, that he spent time verifying our results (that was why we offered him an exclusive, which I thought was only fair). However, his report at http://www.well.com/user/declan/bair/ did not uncover anything new that wasn't already covered in our report at http://www.peacefire.org/censorware/BAIR/ , which Declan read before he started his tests, and which included a section, "How you can duplicate these results in your own experiment". (In science, as in journalism, it's important for peers to verify your results, but the first discoverer is still supposed to get credit -- since it's a lot easier to verify someone else's discoveries, if you know exactly what to look for and what the results are going to be.)

    I think what Declan did was a disgrace; if I were an editor, I would consider firing him. Certainly we're not giving any more advance copies of our reports to Wired News -- which might be cheerful news for everyone else.

    [more detail snipped]