not to mention the fact that fair use is primarily shaped by judicial review. The DMCA and DRM completely remove that judicial review.
I cheer for anyone who takes actions which either are harmful or appear to be harmful to the bastards who denied me my due process rights as a member of the public.
except, since the invention and introduction of the dual cassette recorder to the public, the public's definition of fair use has been "i copy this for whoever the hell asks for it and has a blank tape".
This behavior was accounted for and made explicitly legal in the AHRA.
Then suddenly they say it shouldn't be allowed with silicon and wires, claiming all kinds of specious arguments about increased numbers and "perfect copies" (never mind the billions of cassette units sold).
The key to making DRM work is to back off the user's day-to-day playback, and focus on making it so that devices won't receive content from users that don't have permission to give it to them. That's what copyright was created for: to prevent unauthorized reproductions, not tell the user exactly how they will use the IP once they buy it.
Wouldn't censoring transmission of culture also be called a fundamental abrogation of the essence of humanity?
And copyright was meant to promote the progress of science and the useful arts, not "prevent unauthorized reproductions".
Read the AHRA, then look back at computers and mp3's.
It's legal with magnetized plastic ribbons, but not with silicon and wires.. I call bullcrap.
Their economic function is to spread risk, not avoid it.
RISK is the operating word. If you are already sick it's not a risk, it's a certainty. You can not insure against something that already happened or has a chance of 100% of happening.
It is their DUTY now, because their presence is what has caused the inflation of health care expenses beyond the capacity of 99.999~% of people to pay for it.
The presence of ubiquitous health insurance has insulated those covered from the expense, allowing companies to take advantage.
This means that, for feasible access to health care, insurance is now MANDATORY, not an option.
Anyone whose seen the history channel documentary on the mongols will tell you that, if this is allowed and enforced, there will be way more dead cops than seized jackets.
You don't entirely block P2P, that's all fine and good for you, but this is now atypical in universities. I find it admirable that your school has resisted that policy. You should have spelled this out.
As for the rest....
The profanity is really nice. And yes, you should hire more people and deal with anything which is entailed in providing ISP services to your students. This includes QoS and DMCA notices.
As for your complaints about compensation and labor.. i'm sorry but at least you have a job. I paid 30k/yr after aid, was forced to move off campus because of oppressive internet policies, and now that i've graduated the economy has imploded and they've now declared my state has the second lowest employment in the nation.
Don't like your job, quit! I'll certainly enjoy the pay.
The purpose of insurance is to protect the buyer from possible unfortunate events by paying a smaller up front fee. It's purpose is not to provide cheaper medical care.
The problem is insurance, once wide spread, causes market distortion, as medical providers all the way up the chain can now charge whatever the hell they feel like and most people never see more than their copay.. until they get sick and lose their coverage.
Something that's always bothered me about Alien sightings and 'abductions' is that the sightings really didn't kick off until 1897 [wikipedia.org] which coincides closely with the release of the War of the Worlds [wikipedia.org]. And, interestingly enough, alien abductions didn't really take off until the 1960s [wikipedia.org] when movies about abductions had been in circulation [thetriangle.org] since the 50s (as any devout MST3K fan knows).
Let's not mention the historic accounts of people meeting "gods" and going away with them, ezekiel's wheels within wheels, vimana's, the presence of UFO's in renaissance paintings, etc etc.
This is called a cargo cult, and similar cults centered around aircraft have been encountered among previously undiscovered tribes in central south america.
Where the similarities break down is with the sharing of music between people. P2P services allow you to share music that you legally purchase with thousands of people who did not purchase it - something that can be interpreted as distribution. It's a little different than handing out a mix tape to a couple friends.
Where is the difference? How many millions of units were sold on the tape recorder market? To how many millions does each radio station broadcast?
> and they should behave like an ISP and stop filtering crap for unrelated corporate interests.
The RIAA then sponsored a bill trying to get their federal funding cut off if they didn't do something about P2P. That provision was watered down, but they've still been told to, in effect, "do something" about the RIAA's problems.
Whether they want to or not.
They have a good way of "doing something" about the RIAA's problems.
Revoke the degrees of everyone associated with the lobbing and enforcement efforts.
Your apologist attitude is not changing the fact that I'm suffering very real pain and debilitation to the point i'm not self sufficient simply so some insurance executive can get a second mercedes.
I'm glad to see you have your moral priorities straight.
Why do you think it's ok that only ONE side plays dirty.
Afro-americans didn't get their rights back by being good little "niggers" and bowing to the white man. They went into white facilities and engaged in civil disobedience.
Screw these companies. They took my freedom without asking me, i'll take the music/movies/software from them until they give it back.
Please stop repeating this old bullshit. People copying information from another people, people passing information along to their fellow men are not stealing. They are exchanging information, like people, you know, have always done. You and your alike comming along, calling some of this information (in others people possesion) their "intellectual property" and trying to censor free information exchange between free people in order to make a buck borders on fascism.
Stop this renaming propaganda bullshit already.
I'd like to add that colleges should not be preventing students from engaging in civil disobedience against this tyranny.
You don't see them putting cameras in dorm rooms so they can send in jack booted thugs whenever someone lights up a doob, but god forbid the greedy bastards who destroyed our tech sector with the DMCA be defied by a student who is willing to take that personal risk.
this is not true with universities. They have massive internet throughput, and if they apply DSL speed policies to each residence hall connection, there would be no issue with bandwidth hogs.
As for the other ISP's used in your rationalization, they need to INCREASE.. THEIR... CAPACITY. You don't see any other manufacturer engage in rationing when they reach plant capacity. They add wings to their plant or build a new one.
Not to mention that we have to respond to p2p notices. At our school, we get so many notices that one full-time staffer (at $40k/year salary--with benefits, the cost goes up to around $55-60k/year) devoted to working with issues related to the DMCA. That's not insignificant.
100k a year to censor student lines and deny them the right to civil disobedience (and to face the possible consequences thereof) against abusive corporate interests, or a couple more staff members. Hmm..
Did your university also refuse to provide computer networks because that would require you hire IT staff?
How about sports fields because you'd have to increase grounds keeping budgets?
What makes the MAFIAA so special. Welcome to the real world where costs increase occasionally.
If we didn't discourage p2p using technological means, it may well require more staff, as I assume that the notifications would increase.
Oh NO!! you'd have to do your jobs instead of screwing the students on the MAFIAA's behest!!!
And most of the people who have to do the grunt work of the DMCA enforcement at the university level (again, at least here) really hate every aspect of dealing with it, and really wish that the RIAA/MPAA would just go away.
So instead, you subject your students to the great firewall of china at their behest, inconveniencing them much more (especially wow players) than your staff, who should be doing their jobs. (the jobs people like me paid 30k/yr after aid to do)
or they could just apply QOS restricting them to DSL speeds, and you could leave it at that, instead of deciding which content they're allowed to access at "premium speeds"
For saying that this isn't free market you sure did a great job explaining the OP's case for him.
This guy said this is an example of a free market "working"
free markets work on supply and demand.
These companies are not responding to power companies' complaints. The power company is not benefiting from a free market, just a fortuitous but unrelated chain of events.
If the customers of laptops demanded obscene brightness, more screen real estate, and high performance short bursts of computing power, they'd put 17 CPU's and 4 panels on laptops and they'd suck the grid dry.
So, in other words, the consumers are demanding certain kinds of products, and the companies that make them are creating them.
Sounds remarkably a lot like the free market working.
Yes, but not for the power companies.
There are plenty of incidences of interactions between 2 parties providing benefit to a third by mere coincidence, but that does not mean the third party influenced them.
I'll let you know when the free market caters to my demand for affordable healthcare coverage so I can have more than 8 hours awake per day.
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ROT-26: TWICE as good as ROT-13!
And orders of magnitude better than ROT-Baloney Sandwich.
not to mention the fact that fair use is primarily shaped by judicial review. The DMCA and DRM completely remove that judicial review.
I cheer for anyone who takes actions which either are harmful or appear to be harmful to the bastards who denied me my due process rights as a member of the public.
except, since the invention and introduction of the dual cassette recorder to the public, the public's definition of fair use has been "i copy this for whoever the hell asks for it and has a blank tape".
This behavior was accounted for and made explicitly legal in the AHRA.
Then suddenly they say it shouldn't be allowed with silicon and wires, claiming all kinds of specious arguments about increased numbers and "perfect copies" (never mind the billions of cassette units sold).
The public's not buying it. Game over MAFIAA
The key to making DRM work is to back off the user's day-to-day playback, and focus on making it so that devices won't receive content from users that don't have permission to give it to them. That's what copyright was created for: to prevent unauthorized reproductions, not tell the user exactly how they will use the IP once they buy it.
Wouldn't censoring transmission of culture also be called a fundamental abrogation of the essence of humanity?
And copyright was meant to promote the progress of science and the useful arts, not "prevent unauthorized reproductions".
Read the AHRA, then look back at computers and mp3's.
It's legal with magnetized plastic ribbons, but not with silicon and wires..
I call bullcrap.
They can keep their DRM, and i'll go with the better choice
except you had to buy the computers, and the bandwidth you used to share, and the CDR'S you used to burn, or the MP3 players used.
All of which combined limit the number of.. oh wait... cassettes were cheaper.
Their economic function is to spread risk, not avoid it.
RISK is the operating word. If you are already sick it's not a risk, it's a certainty. You can not insure against something that already happened or has a chance of 100% of happening.
It is their DUTY now, because their presence is what has caused the inflation of health care expenses beyond the capacity of 99.999~% of people to pay for it.
The presence of ubiquitous health insurance has insulated those covered from the expense, allowing companies to take advantage.
This means that, for feasible access to health care, insurance is now MANDATORY, not an option.
Water, electricity, telephone.. health care.
That from the fat of the overweight American comes the cure for heart disease brought on by his poor diet!
With two thirds of Americans overweight, this is promising news.
for THEM..
what about thin people like me.. they'll live forever now and have more fat daughters >: |
Anyone whose seen the history channel documentary on the mongols will tell you that, if this is allowed and enforced, there will be way more dead cops than seized jackets.
i've seen documentaries on the mongols.
It won't result in a changed name.
It will result in dead cops.
You don't entirely block P2P, that's all fine and good for you, but this is now atypical in universities. I find it admirable that your school has resisted that policy. You should have spelled this out.
As for the rest....
The profanity is really nice. And yes, you should hire more people and deal with anything which is entailed in providing ISP services to your students. This includes QoS and DMCA notices.
As for your complaints about compensation and labor.. i'm sorry but at least you have a job. I paid 30k/yr after aid, was forced to move off campus because of oppressive internet policies, and now that i've graduated the economy has imploded and they've now declared my state has the second lowest employment in the nation.
Don't like your job, quit! I'll certainly enjoy the pay.
The purpose of insurance is to protect the buyer from possible unfortunate events by paying a smaller up front fee. It's purpose is not to provide cheaper medical care.
The problem is insurance, once wide spread, causes market distortion, as medical providers all the way up the chain can now charge whatever the hell they feel like and most people never see more than their copay.. until they get sick and lose their coverage.
the royatlies are measured in fractions of a cent per song.
This equates to about 1 penny per album.
as for "perfect copies", this is a straw man. By the early 90's analog technology was capable of more accurate copies than MP3 compression.
Something that's always bothered me about Alien sightings and 'abductions' is that the sightings really didn't kick off until 1897 [wikipedia.org] which coincides closely with the release of the War of the Worlds [wikipedia.org]. And, interestingly enough, alien abductions didn't really take off until the 1960s [wikipedia.org] when movies about abductions had been in circulation [thetriangle.org] since the 50s (as any devout MST3K fan knows).
Let's not mention the historic accounts of people meeting "gods" and going away with them, ezekiel's wheels within wheels, vimana's, the presence of UFO's in renaissance paintings, etc etc.
This is called a cargo cult, and similar cults centered around aircraft have been encountered among previously undiscovered tribes in central south america.
Where the similarities break down is with the sharing of music between people. P2P services allow you to share music that you legally purchase with thousands of people who did not purchase it - something that can be interpreted as distribution. It's a little different than handing out a mix tape to a couple friends.
Where is the difference? How many millions of units were sold on the tape recorder market? To how many millions does each radio station broadcast?
> and they should behave like an ISP and stop filtering crap for unrelated corporate interests.
The RIAA then sponsored a bill trying to get their federal funding cut off if they didn't do something about P2P. That provision was watered down, but they've still been told to, in effect, "do something" about the RIAA's problems.
Whether they want to or not.
They have a good way of "doing something" about the RIAA's problems.
Revoke the degrees of everyone associated with the lobbing and enforcement efforts.
Problem solved.
Your apologist attitude is not changing the fact that I'm suffering very real pain and debilitation to the point i'm not self sufficient simply so some insurance executive can get a second mercedes.
I'm glad to see you have your moral priorities straight.
Why can't you just go BUY the music like everybody else?
DMCA
EUCD
Mickey Mouse Protection Act
Pro-IP act
Acta.
Why do you think it's ok that only ONE side plays dirty.
Afro-americans didn't get their rights back by being good little "niggers" and bowing to the white man. They went into white facilities and engaged in civil disobedience.
Screw these companies. They took my freedom without asking me, i'll take the music/movies/software from them until they give it back.
a 5 gb cap isn't much.
You will kill that cap with the WOTLK torrent in november, or a few evenings on youtube.
God forbid you dabble in unenforced legal grey areas like anime fansubs.
> stealing movies or tv shows
Please stop repeating this old bullshit. People copying information from another people, people passing information along to their fellow men are not stealing. They are exchanging information, like people, you know, have always done. You and your alike comming along, calling some of this information (in others people possesion) their "intellectual property" and trying to censor free information exchange between free people in order to make a buck borders on fascism.
Stop this renaming propaganda bullshit already.
I'd like to add that colleges should not be preventing students from engaging in civil disobedience against this tyranny.
You don't see them putting cameras in dorm rooms so they can send in jack booted thugs whenever someone lights up a doob, but god forbid the greedy bastards who destroyed our tech sector with the DMCA be defied by a student who is willing to take that personal risk.
Oh, so the MAFIAA should be allowed to steal my freedom on capital hill, but I shouldnt be allowed to punish them for it through the internet.
Nice.
It's not "stealing" when you're taking something back, it's called repossession.
And before you know it you've got a college spending thousands of dollars trying to keep its students from downloading crap they shouldn't be.
Whether they should or should not be doing this is a matter of opinion.
I wish downloading really DID affect sales.
Bleed the greedy bastards dry.
P2P services and computers are the same as radio/tapes and dual cassette decks, and they start applying a double standard?
Screw them, screw them right up their pooper!
this is not true with universities. They have massive internet throughput, and if they apply DSL speed policies to each residence hall connection, there would be no issue with bandwidth hogs.
As for the other ISP's used in your rationalization, they need to INCREASE.. THEIR... CAPACITY. You don't see any other manufacturer engage in rationing when they reach plant capacity. They add wings to their plant or build a new one.
Not to mention that we have to respond to p2p notices. At our school, we get so many notices that one full-time staffer (at $40k/year salary--with benefits, the cost goes up to around $55-60k/year) devoted to working with issues related to the DMCA. That's not insignificant.
100k a year to censor student lines and deny them the right to civil disobedience (and to face the possible consequences thereof) against abusive corporate interests, or a couple more staff members. Hmm..
Did your university also refuse to provide computer networks because that would require you hire IT staff?
How about sports fields because you'd have to increase grounds keeping budgets?
What makes the MAFIAA so special. Welcome to the real world where costs increase occasionally.
If we didn't discourage p2p using technological means, it may well require more staff, as I assume that the notifications would increase.
Oh NO!! you'd have to do your jobs instead of screwing the students on the MAFIAA's behest!!!
And most of the people who have to do the grunt work of the DMCA enforcement at the university level (again, at least here) really hate every aspect of dealing with it, and really wish that the RIAA/MPAA would just go away.
So instead, you subject your students to the great firewall of china at their behest, inconveniencing them much more (especially wow players) than your staff, who should be doing their jobs. (the jobs people like me paid 30k/yr after aid to do)
or they could just apply QOS restricting them to DSL speeds, and you could leave it at that, instead of deciding which content they're allowed to access at "premium speeds"
For saying that this isn't free market you sure did a great job explaining the OP's case for him.
This guy said this is an example of a free market "working"
free markets work on supply and demand.
These companies are not responding to power companies' complaints. The power company is not benefiting from a free market, just a fortuitous but unrelated chain of events.
If the customers of laptops demanded obscene brightness, more screen real estate, and high performance short bursts of computing power, they'd put 17 CPU's and 4 panels on laptops and they'd suck the grid dry.
So, in other words, the consumers are demanding certain kinds of products, and the companies that make them are creating them.
Sounds remarkably a lot like the free market working.
Yes, but not for the power companies.
There are plenty of incidences of interactions between 2 parties providing benefit to a third by mere coincidence, but that does not mean the third party influenced them.
I'll let you know when the free market caters to my demand for affordable healthcare coverage so I can have more than 8 hours awake per day.
Let me know when the free market