you're right, you can't have it both ways and call it fair. You can't grant the republican party the right to hold a convention there, and deny activists the right to stand in the streets and protest it.
whether it's juvenile or not has nothing to do with it.
They have every right to piss and moan about their convention in the streets outside.
whether it's good form or not (a subjective viewpoint) is not in question here.
should count ourselves lucky that we have free speech
just because people aren't executed so obviously for speaking out doesn't mean we have free speech in the US.
The other way of looking at it is capitalism has produced "smarter" information management.
Nothing more perfect than pointing at some authoritarian state's propaganda, and claiming privately owned media is any less bias.
Nothing more perfect than claiming these things are secure because they're encoded in our constitution, then finding and abusing http://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=949457&cid=24824391>loopholes which allow you not only to dispose of nare-do-wells, but get the public to applaud you for doing so.
Then of course, there's nothing more perfect than using competition to produce the finest behavioral and psych analysis money can buy to select only those who possess the will to act, or charisma to compel others to act, and leave the rest be in order to claim "no we don't suppress expression"
There was Putin and his public dislike of all things US. The radioactive poisoning. Some FBI link to a SPAMMER inside of Russia but Putins government would not let US prosecutors go after them. The election where Putin creates a seat so he's still on top. More anti-US rhetoric. And more recently the Georgia incident where Putin is the one in the press on the first and second day. After that it is the acting President but it was pretty obvious Putin is da man.
Now a hole in the head of a webmaster while INSIDE a Police car. It all sounds like the old USSR and KGB era tactics to me. Well, it was good for some while it lasted. IMO
LoB
This kind of puts the damper on the whole "won the cold war for us" rhetoric..
now i guess it's "sprayed air-freshener over the diaper pail that was communist russia and claimed to his wife he had emptied it"
uh flamebait? lol.. me? why? oh boy.. that's too funny:)
people have a right to protest other peoples' allegiances.
Since the 60's the republican party has been about protecting corporate america and intolerant nutbags from individualism in any way shape or form, including the suppression of those annoying minorities, those lazy poor, and of course uppity people trying to point out the pools of molten rock formed from the friction of our forefathers spinning in their graves.
You do of course realize that this kind of "zone designation" is necessary because of authoritarian court appointees upholding "free speech zones" --conveniently located far enough away the hubble won't see the protest.
When you have a choice between protesting "lawfully" in the middle of yellowstone for an event in washington DC, or unlawfully where you will actually send a message, i know which option i'd take.
and from the other side, men still pay 25% more on average for medical, life, and auto insurance, and are treated in the media like emotionless "things" to be leeched from and divested in divorces of half their assets as a business.
sexism still exists, most prominently displayed as misandry, in the US right now.
The laws are heavily slanted against men, and there are fewer than 4 degrees of separation between any living person and someone who has been wrongfully rendered destitute from a sexual harassment lawsuit.
So essentially you can't talk intelligently about the subject, seeing as you deride the best of breed and like no alternative. You are essentially "out of touch" yourself.
ah that's a nice arrogant assumption and a complete logical leap.
deriding the best of breed without liking an alternative does not preclude my capacity to talk intelligently on the subject.
Further, If you don't consider a physical disk or the implied use of p2p to be alternatives, you have serious perspective issues.
The issues surrounding this however are a dead horse.
All posters who laud these companies are either ignoring the elephant in the room that is p2p, or are against economic common sense and for the propping up of a business model which has been surpassed.
I recently had my student loan company double-bill me for the month, then call up and harass me, then accuse me of lying when I repeatedly insisted we paid our bill on time.
2 weeks later, after we faxed in our entire payment record (on PAPER, yes it still has a place with abusive bastards like this around), we finally got a letter absolving us of responsibility, but once again not even admitting a mistake.
Auto-debit in such a situation would have rendered us unable to pay the mortgage, and do you honestly think they would have been motivated to look into this at all if it weren't THEIR money on the line?
i'm sorry, but I don't feel like going through 60+ days of arbitration just to get back money some company stole from my account when I could have just as easily refused to pay the bill and told them to fix their error or face the lawyers, and kept my money..
Most banks will not reverse the transaction. Credit card companies will dispute it, but it has been 40 days before I received my funds.
What planet do you live in with overdraft fees? In the US you'll be lucky to see 25 dollars flat per transaction.
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you're right, you can't have it both ways and call it fair. You can't grant the republican party the right to hold a convention there, and deny activists the right to stand in the streets and protest it.
whether it's juvenile or not has nothing to do with it.
They have every right to piss and moan about their convention in the streets outside.
whether it's good form or not (a subjective viewpoint) is not in question here.
should count ourselves lucky that we have free speech
just because people aren't executed so obviously for speaking out doesn't mean we have free speech in the US.
The other way of looking at it is capitalism has produced "smarter" information management.
Nothing more perfect than pointing at some authoritarian state's propaganda, and claiming privately owned media is any less bias.
Nothing more perfect than claiming these things are secure because they're encoded in our constitution, then finding and abusing http://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=949457&cid=24824391>loopholes which allow you not only to dispose of nare-do-wells, but get the public to applaud you for doing so.
Then of course, there's nothing more perfect than using competition to produce the finest behavioral and psych analysis money can buy to select only those who possess the will to act, or charisma to compel others to act, and leave the rest be in order to claim "no we don't suppress expression"
There was Putin and his public dislike of all things US. The radioactive poisoning. Some FBI link to a SPAMMER inside of Russia but Putins government would not let US prosecutors go after them. The election where Putin creates a seat so he's still on top. More anti-US rhetoric. And more recently the Georgia incident where Putin is the one in the press on the first and second day. After that it is the acting President but it was pretty obvious Putin is da man.
Now a hole in the head of a webmaster while INSIDE a Police car. It all sounds like the old USSR and KGB era tactics to me. Well, it was good for some while it lasted. IMO
LoB
This kind of puts the damper on the whole "won the cold war for us" rhetoric..
now i guess it's "sprayed air-freshener over the diaper pail that was communist russia and claimed to his wife he had emptied it"
someone's never heard about the massacres in the 60's.
uh flamebait? lol.. me? why? oh boy.. that's too funny :)
people have a right to protest other peoples' allegiances.
Since the 60's the republican party has been about protecting corporate america and intolerant nutbags from individualism in any way shape or form, including the suppression of those annoying minorities, those lazy poor, and of course uppity people trying to point out the pools of molten rock formed from the friction of our forefathers spinning in their graves.
the temple houses the reason center of the brain, the guaranteed kill is actually behind the ear, where the primitive autonomic systems rest.
sorry, but a "master" can be encoded in flac or cdda (the CD audio file) and distribted online.
No "master" need be created.
the protesters, who at every large meeting have proven unable to restrain themselves.
I refer you to this post explaining how the protestors become "out of control".
If systematic police harassment were a part of your life you'd get pissed too.
You do of course realize that this kind of "zone designation" is necessary because of authoritarian court appointees upholding "free speech zones" --conveniently located far enough away the hubble won't see the protest.
When you have a choice between protesting "lawfully" in the middle of yellowstone for an event in washington DC, or unlawfully where you will actually send a message, i know which option i'd take.
Women still don't get equal pay for equal work
and from the other side, men still pay 25% more on average for medical, life, and auto insurance, and are treated in the media like emotionless "things" to be leeched from and divested in divorces of half their assets as a business.
The sexism cuts both ways.
sexism still exists, most prominently displayed as misandry, in the US right now.
The laws are heavily slanted against men, and there are fewer than 4 degrees of separation between any living person and someone who has been wrongfully rendered destitute from a sexual harassment lawsuit.
So essentially you can't talk intelligently about the subject, seeing as you deride the best of breed and like no alternative. You are essentially "out of touch" yourself.
ah that's a nice arrogant assumption and a complete logical leap.
deriding the best of breed without liking an alternative does not preclude my capacity to talk intelligently on the subject.
Further, If you don't consider a physical disk or the implied use of p2p to be alternatives, you have serious perspective issues.
The issues surrounding this however are a dead horse.
All posters who laud these companies are either ignoring the elephant in the room that is p2p, or are against economic common sense and for the propping up of a business model which has been surpassed.
1) Billing errors occur.
I recently had my student loan company double-bill me for the month, then call up and harass me, then accuse me of lying when I repeatedly insisted we paid our bill on time.
2 weeks later, after we faxed in our entire payment record (on PAPER, yes it still has a place with abusive bastards like this around), we finally got a letter absolving us of responsibility, but once again not even admitting a mistake.
Auto-debit in such a situation would have rendered us unable to pay the mortgage, and do you honestly think they would have been motivated to look into this at all if it weren't THEIR money on the line?
i'm sorry, but I don't feel like going through 60+ days of arbitration just to get back money some company stole from my account when I could have just as easily refused to pay the bill and told them to fix their error or face the lawyers, and kept my money..
Most banks will not reverse the transaction. Credit card companies will dispute it, but it has been 40 days before I received my funds.
What planet do you live in with overdraft fees? In the US you'll be lucky to see 25 dollars flat per transaction.
requiring binding arbitration as part of a "take it or leave it" agreement has already been ruled unconscionable.
Sorry, but the credit card companies won't escape on that one assuming the plaintiffs have any competence at all.
I prefer none of them.
If im going to buy music, i'll get an actual pack of CDDA files on a physical disk.
of course, the operative word is buy.. music is freer than free today, regardless of what the talking heads in the "new world order" fantasize about.
you're right, it isn't dean, but it makes them scream like him.
Good luck with that. We're gonna be in a worldwide rare element shortage liting us to 1950's technology in 100 years.
no, we'll be in a worldwide landfill mining industry, or that will be what pushes us into orbital and system-wide colonization.
They also said things like this in the 50's "of course by that time we'll all be radioactive dust", etc.. etc..
no, a streaming server has its place in music/movie rentals, not DRM snaking its way into my machine like the ebola virus.
a lot of out of touch people.
i know very few people who mention the store in a sentence without derisive laughter or utter disgust.
p.s., I and all my friends.. we are all mac users.
or being shunted off into obscurity like most VP's/VP candidates
or more likely:
"table lamp, tic-tac" or "rotten egg, toilet"
It also appears that Hillary voters are moving to Palin in a big way, according to some of their blogs.
That would be the swiftboat of 2008. It's an astroturfing campaign like "hands off the internet"
chocolate mlik, not mountain dew or even coke..
that's otherwise known as "EPIC DECAFFEINATED FAIL"
Anyone who is willing to sell-out on their political beliefs just to vote for a gender lacks integrity, in my opinion.
welcome to america