I agree with your sentiment on the additional burden of "new property".
I have trouble keeping material things from getting stolen or deteriorated, why on Earth would I want more of the same? This is crazy.
Just a few weeks ago I got my car scratched by some bastard who did not even leave a note. I have to go the hassle of repainting it now. Why would I want the same problems applied to data that can be easily replicated? So that some corporation gets to rake in higher profits? No, thanks.
And, yes, I know, I could have paid more for car insurance covering accidental damage. But this just goes to prove my point. Digital stuff should not be turned into property. It would be a huge step backwards.
If the original designer could copy anything, why would he need to be paid?
I see the opposite... designers going out of their way so other people could use their designs for free... would not that be the biggest dream of an artist? For his works to be enjoyed by as many people as possible?
Whether or not the patent should have been granted is not the issue at this point. It was. The plaintiff (i4i) had a successful add-on for MS Word that it was selling. In 2003, Microsoft added the same functionality to Word. Microsoft then refused all attempts on i4i's part to license the functionality. The license fees requested were on the order of $25M. It was Microsoft's repeated refusal to negotiate that resulted in not only a large award, but punitive damages as well. They (Microsoft) were found liable for willful infringement, so yes, they did steal the patented method.
The weird thing here is that this is actually a case of a patent working the way that patents are supposed to work:
Company A comes up with a reasonably unique and functional solution to a broad problem, patents it and starts selling it. They take it to mega-corp B who has a problem that can be easily solved with company A's product, and mega-corp B -- rather than negotiate with company A, simply steals their design, and incorporates it into their product in the expectation that this will be sufficient to run company A into the ground before any litigation can come to fruition.
The thing to note here, is that I4I's patent isn't just for an idea, it's actually for a real product and an apparently graceful solution to what had previously been an intractible problem.
The XML implementation is simply a specific implementation of their patent, but -- once you have XML -- it's not the only XML solution or even (for many people) the best XML solution.
It is starting to look like they didn't patent the general idea of adding meta-data to a file. They patented a specific way of organizing that meta-data to produce a specific result.
In the broader context of software patents being a bad idea, I would be inclined to classify this as an example of 'good case, bad law'. It is somewhat gratifying to see software patents put to a good use, for once.
That's exactly the reason I would not touch anything but Gentoo and maybe LSB-based distros. I has such a hard time installing asterisk on a ubuntu machine it's not funny. No matter what I did, I could not get it to start at boot properly. It would start, but wouldn't work. Go figure. Had to add a cron job to start it, which did the trick.
And don't get me started on server-side distros. Compare installation of Horde+IMP on Gentoo and on CentOS.
on Gentoo: emerge horde; emerge horde-imp; edit a few config files in/var/www//htdocs/horde/config on CentOS: about 20 manual steps (check it here http://wiki.horde.org/CentOS5InstallationNotes)
You hit the nail on the head. Since corps took control of radio stations, commercial music went downhill really fast. They did the same to the programming industry recently. It reached a point where hobby works are better quality than enterprise stuff.
Corporations are the anti-Midas. Everything they touch turns to crap.
Exactly. The problem of the news industry is twofold: greed and sloth.
Since greed is promoted as a virtue in capitalism, I will leave that alone.
However, when the industry becomes so complacent that most of the professional journalism is full of mindless parroting of press releases, the problem is aggravated.
Nobody will pay for the current shoddy journalism. Press releases can be had for free elsewhere. Until the industry learns to provide a compelling, insightful analysis, people will not buy this mindless stuff.
And when you fail, please do not go crying to daddy 'the govt' saying the world is going to miss your public service if you die. We won't miss you.
There is a certain limit to how much content can be supported by subscription fees, after that subscription fees become increasingly unattractive in order to keep up the same revenue stream and after that subscription fees alone won't bring in enough revenue to keep some businesses afloat.
I do not know why you think hitting a problem is only bad in Linux. Let me give you an example.
A co-worker of mine has been complaining about word opening documents very slowly after she's been upgraded to office 2007. Some documents opened fine, others took MINUTES to load( a 27kb document, at that). It was driving her nuts.
Guess what. Updating the chipset driver fixed the problem.
How in the whole world would a normal person know that? It took me days of checking for dead network printers, viruses, removing crapware, cleaning the registry, to finally try and upgrade the driver.
Example two: Out of our 30 or so computers in the office, two consistently refused to apply policies after we moved them to the domain. The reason: although the boxes were fairly new, the hardware guys loaded them with old drivers for the network card. As a result, the network started MUCH LATER than the group policy was applied, hence the domain controller could not be found during policy ran at startup.
Windows just isn't made for the common man. I don't know if it ever will be.
I second that. Their management console is horrible - it does not hold computers in the group, is counter-intuitive, and fails to keep removed computers out - always adds them again to the main list. The management server is limited to N computers and if you get new users you have to install another management server. And they sell only in bulk of 10 or 25 licenses.
[quote]Of course I haven't read the article, not knowing Dutch and not bothering with a translate this page thing, and I know nothing of the music industry - for all I know the Dutch distribute 99% of the world's music, though I doubt it.[/quote]
Fixed that for you.
But let me see what's in my playlist as a european at this moment: De-Phazz - New Format Recordings, HQ Germany Gotan Project - Beggars Group, London, UK Buena Vista Social Club - Wold Circuit, London, UK Cheb I Sabbah - Six Degrees Recordings, NY, US
While none of them are from the Netherlands, most of them are not from the "overseas" either, but more like next door.
Well, somehow I do not think that throwing, say, 100 people at the problem will get you anything usable in less than three years. Browsers are quite a complex piece of software, and, given Microsoft's track record of security bugs, three years is somewhat generous. Also, considering the competency level of microsoft programmers, getting 100 competent C++ programmers might be a tough task for the guys in Redmond.
You sound pretty confident, but the first link you included says Yoshiaki Arata is a distinguished japanese physicist. There is also an article on wikipedia about him... says the same...
This link also says he has been nominated for a life member of the International Society for Condensed Matter Nuclear Science.
Now I am really confused... can you provide more details on him being a welder and not a physicist?
I'm curious, why exactly do you find it to be a problem that someone would praise IIS?
Well I do not know why someone would, but here is my annoyance:
I came here to bash MS and you guys managed to insert marketing points about IIS into our little bash fest. I stopped watching TV exactly because I am tired of people selling me things I don't need. And now I see the same on slashdot. Why don't you keep your fanboy poodle-extatic bubbling happiness with IIS7 to yourself?
Thanks a bunch. Don't bother replying - you ruined my day already.
Modularity where you pay little for the baseline but then a few relevant top-up costs for what you actually need might be in both Microsoft's and consumers' interests in the long run.
So I guess you are paying your ISP per GB of traffic? Or per usage minutes?:P
From my experience, all you can eat plans have always been cheaper/more convenient to the customer than tiered rates. I cannot see why a base OS would be different, considering I would like to rent one in the first place.
But even if it does get accepted as a standard then I bet the free (at least as in beer, hopefully as in speech) tools would be along smartish.
I would rather the developers of those tools spend their time writing their own stuff, pushing forward their interesting ideas, instead of spending all that effort making the world interoperable with Microsoft.
Microsoft has been good at forcing this catch-up game for years. It does not have to be this way anymore.
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Well, it is not like it is crashing. But after running for a while (it may be minutes, it may be hours), moving the mouse would update the cursor, but apps would not respond to mouse and keyboard events. At this point even Ctrl+Alt+Bsp would not work, which is rather weird.
After changing to enlightenment, I no longer get these weird lock-ups.
Well, the developers say that KDE 4.0 is far from finished: "KDE 4.0.0 is our "will eat your children" release of KDE4, not the next release of KDE 3.5."
Speaking of which... I've been using e17 for a while. It is not feature-complete but it is use-able. And it does not crash on me like XFCE does (I'll probably get modded down for saying this...)
Anyway, I am not here to bash anyone, just wanted to put things in perspective. Enjoy your WM, whatever it is:)
But business was never about long-term investment. This is why internet originated in the DoD and not with some french company. Same for satellite imaging. Ditto for most of the break-through innovations.
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I am sure this is great relief for all system administrators out there. Thank you for enlightening us!
I agree with your sentiment on the additional burden of "new property".
I have trouble keeping material things from getting stolen or deteriorated, why on Earth would I want more of the same? This is crazy.
Just a few weeks ago I got my car scratched by some bastard who did not even leave a note. I have to go the hassle of repainting it now. Why would I want the same problems applied to data that can be easily replicated? So that some corporation gets to rake in higher profits? No, thanks.
And, yes, I know, I could have paid more for car insurance covering accidental damage. But this just goes to prove my point. Digital stuff should not be turned into property. It would be a huge step backwards.
If the original designer could copy anything, why would he need to be paid?
I see the opposite... designers going out of their way so other people could use their designs for free... would not that be the biggest dream of an artist? For his works to be enjoyed by as many people as possible?
Way to paint Microsoft as the victim here.
According to GrokLaw, this is what happened:
Whether or not the patent should have been granted is not the issue at this point. It was.
The plaintiff (i4i) had a successful add-on for MS Word that it was selling. In 2003, Microsoft added the same functionality to Word. Microsoft then refused all attempts on i4i's part to license the functionality.
The license fees requested were on the order of $25M. It was Microsoft's repeated refusal to negotiate that resulted in not only a large award, but punitive damages as well.
They (Microsoft) were found liable for willful infringement, so yes, they did steal the patented method.
The weird thing here is that this is actually a case of a patent working the way that patents are supposed to work:
Company A comes up with a reasonably unique and functional solution to a broad problem, patents it and starts selling it. They take it to mega-corp B who has a problem that can be easily solved with company A's product, and mega-corp B -- rather than negotiate with company A, simply steals their design, and incorporates it into their product in the expectation that this will be sufficient to run company A into the ground before any litigation can come to fruition.
The thing to note here, is that I4I's patent isn't just for an idea, it's actually for a real product and an apparently graceful solution to what had previously been an intractible problem.
The XML implementation is simply a specific implementation of their patent, but -- once you have XML -- it's not the only XML solution or even (for many people) the best XML solution.
It is starting to look like they didn't patent the general idea of adding meta-data to a file. They patented a specific way of organizing that meta-data to produce a specific result.
In the broader context of software patents being a bad idea, I would be inclined to classify this as an example of 'good case, bad law'. It is somewhat gratifying to see software patents put to a good use, for once.
Helsinki syndrome?
That's exactly the reason I would not touch anything but Gentoo and maybe LSB-based distros. I has such a hard time installing asterisk on a ubuntu machine it's not funny. No matter what I did, I could not get it to start at boot properly. It would start, but wouldn't work. Go figure. Had to add a cron job to start it, which did the trick.
And don't get me started on server-side distros. Compare installation of Horde+IMP on Gentoo and on CentOS.
on Gentoo: emerge horde; emerge horde-imp; edit a few config files in /var/www//htdocs/horde/config
on CentOS: about 20 manual steps (check it here http://wiki.horde.org/CentOS5InstallationNotes)
But they are ALL biased, mostly in favor of hiding the inconvenient truth.
There, fixed it for you.
So, they come late to the party, call the lead singer titless, and puke on the birthday cake.
So unlike the old Microsoft : )
You hit the nail on the head. Since corps took control of radio stations, commercial music went downhill really fast. They did the same to the programming industry recently. It reached a point where hobby works are better quality than enterprise stuff.
Corporations are the anti-Midas. Everything they touch turns to crap.
Exactly. The problem of the news industry is twofold: greed and sloth.
Since greed is promoted as a virtue in capitalism, I will leave that alone.
However, when the industry becomes so complacent that most of the professional journalism is full of mindless parroting of press releases, the problem is aggravated.
Nobody will pay for the current shoddy journalism. Press releases can be had for free elsewhere. Until the industry learns to provide a compelling, insightful analysis, people will not buy this mindless stuff.
And when you fail, please do not go crying to daddy 'the govt' saying the world is going to miss your public service if you die. We won't miss you.
There is a certain limit to how much content can be supported by subscription fees, after that subscription fees become increasingly unattractive in order to keep up the same revenue stream and after that subscription fees alone won't bring in enough revenue to keep some businesses afloat.
There. Something to think about.
Well, the key word here is 'taking'. When one downloads something they do not take, they copy.
I do not know why you think hitting a problem is only bad in Linux. Let me give you an example.
A co-worker of mine has been complaining about word opening documents very slowly after she's been upgraded to office 2007. Some documents opened fine, others took MINUTES to load( a 27kb document, at that). It was driving her nuts.
Guess what. Updating the chipset driver fixed the problem.
How in the whole world would a normal person know that? It took me days of checking for dead network printers, viruses, removing crapware, cleaning the registry, to finally try and upgrade the driver.
Example two: Out of our 30 or so computers in the office, two consistently refused to apply policies after we moved them to the domain. The reason: although the boxes were fairly new, the hardware guys loaded them with old drivers for the network card. As a result, the network started MUCH LATER than the group policy was applied, hence the domain controller could not be found during policy ran at startup.
Windows just isn't made for the common man. I don't know if it ever will be.
This used to be true in the 90's. Now that more people are aware of open source, more designers are involved in open source projects.
Check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsZvwyxJ9vk&feature=player_embedded
I second that. Their management console is horrible - it does not hold computers in the group, is counter-intuitive, and fails to keep removed computers out - always adds them again to the main list. The management server is limited to N computers and if you get new users you have to install another management server. And they sell only in bulk of 10 or 25 licenses.
[quote]Of course I haven't read the article, not knowing Dutch and not bothering with a translate this page thing, and I know nothing of the music industry - for all I know the Dutch distribute 99% of the world's music, though I doubt it.[/quote]
Fixed that for you.
But let me see what's in my playlist as a european at this moment:
De-Phazz - New Format Recordings, HQ Germany
Gotan Project - Beggars Group, London, UK
Buena Vista Social Club - Wold Circuit, London, UK
Cheb I Sabbah - Six Degrees Recordings, NY, US
While none of them are from the Netherlands, most of them are not from the "overseas" either, but more like next door.
Well, somehow I do not think that throwing, say, 100 people at the problem will get you anything usable in less than three years. Browsers are quite a complex piece of software, and, given Microsoft's track record of security bugs, three years is somewhat generous. Also, considering the competency level of microsoft programmers, getting 100 competent C++ programmers might be a tough task for the guys in Redmond.
Me thinks you are talking about patents.
You sound pretty confident, but the first link you included says Yoshiaki Arata is a distinguished japanese physicist. There is also an article on wikipedia about him... says the same...
This link also says he has been nominated for a life member of the International Society for Condensed Matter Nuclear Science.
Now I am really confused... can you provide more details on him being a welder and not a physicist?
I'm curious, why exactly do you find it to be a problem that someone would praise IIS?
Well I do not know why someone would, but here is my annoyance:
I came here to bash MS and you guys managed to insert marketing points about IIS into our little bash fest. I stopped watching TV exactly because I am tired of people selling me things I don't need. And now I see the same on slashdot. Why don't you keep your fanboy poodle-extatic bubbling happiness with IIS7 to yourself?
Thanks a bunch. Don't bother replying - you ruined my day already.
Modularity where you pay little for the baseline but then a few relevant top-up costs for what you actually need might be in both Microsoft's and consumers' interests in the long run.
:P
So I guess you are paying your ISP per GB of traffic? Or per usage minutes?
From my experience, all you can eat plans have always been cheaper/more convenient to the customer than tiered rates. I cannot see why a base OS would be different, considering I would like to rent one in the first place.
But even if it does get accepted as a standard then I bet the free (at least as in beer, hopefully as in speech) tools would be along smartish.
I would rather the developers of those tools spend their time writing their own stuff, pushing forward their interesting ideas, instead of spending all that effort making the world interoperable with Microsoft.
Microsoft has been good at forcing this catch-up game for years. It does not have to be this way anymore.
Well, it is not like it is crashing. But after running for a while (it may be minutes, it may be hours), moving the mouse would update the cursor, but apps would not respond to mouse and keyboard events. At this point even Ctrl+Alt+Bsp would not work, which is rather weird.
After changing to enlightenment, I no longer get these weird lock-ups.
Well, the developers say that KDE 4.0 is far from finished:
:)
"KDE 4.0.0 is our "will eat your children" release of KDE4, not the next release of KDE 3.5."
Speaking of which... I've been using e17 for a while. It is not feature-complete but it is use-able. And it does not crash on me like XFCE does (I'll probably get modded down for saying this...)
Anyway, I am not here to bash anyone, just wanted to put things in perspective. Enjoy your WM, whatever it is
But business was never about long-term investment. This is why internet originated in the DoD and not with some french company. Same for satellite imaging. Ditto for most of the break-through innovations.