isn't it funny everyone jumps on my 2nd comment, the CO2 comment and not the comment about financing foreign governments with oil purchases.
And no shit the earth is older than 5,000 years but do you really want to count the history of high CO2 levels which prevented animal life's existence? This might give you a clue as to why my comment was technically incorrect but regarding human existence, it has relevance.
I can't recall the presentation data I've seen but it was presented in a way which showed estimated levels of CO2 from things like ice core samples and then measured data from something like the 60s forward. There was a steep steep increase in the past few decades over the historic records. I could have the numbers wrong but from a presentation done by Dr Jeff Severinghaus showed humans are the cause for a sharp increase in worldwide CO2 levels. He used chemicals trapped in ancient ice core samples to show how much was man made and how much was not man made.
And if you throw out "global warming" there are two factors which should show we need to reduce our oil burning ways. #1, data showing sharp increases in man made air born particulates and health related issues from these. #2, the money being sent to other countries and governments for that 20%-30% of foreign oil we use every year and is worth many many billions annually.
I do not believe we are not having any effect on the earths systems. IMO, the things we should be doing to rid ourselves of our oil addiction are also things which help with out output of CO2 gases. And CO2 gases cause retained heat.
yes, don't inconvenience yourself just because you and the other millions are sending trillions of dollars to middle east fanatic governments. Don't inconvenience yourself because you can't see the CO2 content in the atmosphere is over 2 times higher than it has ever been in the history of the planet and you can't see that.
just keep doing things the same way and cry when you have to pay $200/week to fill your SUV and your kids all have asthma.
they're old news in the sense that it is getting boring to hear from or about them. There may be new press releases but stuff like Balmer claiming Googles Android was just a press release shows how much like "old news" they are.
There brand is falling and there are other more exciting things going on. So it's like talking about old news. IMO
right, the ad agency is considered "the hippest of the hip", not Seinfeld. I see now that they could do a 'hip' commercial without using updated elements. Kinda like the commercials where they get a customer to explain car insurance and some psueudo-famous person to give their interpretation. Hip without characters being hip. Got it.
Seinfeld as hip? Yikes, this should be interesting and probably funny. Not funny haha but funny as in silly.
Well, both Seinfeld and Microsoft are old news so they have that much in common. Vista is a yawn and again, something in common. Seinfeld tried to do a movie( Bee Movie ) and Microsoft tried to do another OS release( Vista ) and both were flops.
Any other things people can think Seinfeld and Microsoft/Vista have in common?
seeing the patent listing I had forgot about the mention of the inkjet printer. She definitely is not doing the cooked copper/cuprous oxide method of building a solar cell.
I'm not sure how many "dark" places are also going to have electricity for computers and inkjet printers yet still need this to make solar cells. I guess we'll see what happens with the patent and if DIYers can and will create these for others to use.
By cooking a copper plate you can cause a layer of cuprous oxide to form on one side of the plate. If you take a 2nd copper plate and put them in a saline solution, you can measure 50 or so uA in sunlight.
So, maybe she found a replacement for the liquid saline solution or uses the fingernail polish to seal a sandwiched material soaked in saline.
If interested, search using "solar cell copper cuprous" and you'll find a good list of references to this.
One big problem here for using these for lighting solutions is the fact that when there is light to generate the electricity, they don't need the light. What is needed is a combination DIY solar cell which is also a battery. Do that and have it store even just 100 or 200 mAh of energy and with an LED, you could possibly light up millions of dark homes around the world. IMO
so the development community should do what is right and forget what business interest(s) have done to manipulate those organizations committee projects.
If MS-Office Open XML did not show you this then I would have no idea how else to make this so obvious.
So the community should either just get it done on their own or find an organization which has not shown they can be bought and/or over run by business-only interests. IMO.
valid points and I too would expect the extra costs to be well under $50. The choice still has to be, do they add $25, $50, or even $100 to the cost of the device to have this one - two week battery life or add no extra parts and get two - three days at no extra cost? I would have thought that the no extra cost option would spread much more before someone put in a totally separate CPU system. Maybe a work-around for Microsoft's single OS contract restrictions.
I really don't think that people would be against recharging every couple of days and this feature would be pretty much free to the manufacturer on the hardware side. I hope we see more of both.
I do like the ARM based approach and its very long battery life. What would be really nice would be if that system could be booted from a disk image for a more feature rich experience for those who want to add some other application(s).
it seems odd because there is a CPU, memory, etc already there vi the x86 CPU and system. Couldn't they just run that CPU under clocked and without using the hard disk to vastly improve battery life?
myself, I've run a liveCD every now and then when on the road just to keep access to personal info away from insecure networks. This also brings up the thought that a WUBI based boot option which runs memory resident and shuts down the HD could be very much like what Dell and others are doing with the BIOS or additional CPU system is doing. Obviously, setting CPU freq lower would be desirable for longer batt life.
Dell is the only one who puts an extra CPU in there to run the Linux BIOS image so all that hardware you mentioned, except the hard drive, is fully used by the Linux image on the other systems.
It seems strange that Dell would put in a 2nd CPU but it does make it drop dead easy to design this way. There are tons of ARM based SoCs to pick from and pretty much all of them have Linux BSPs.
ease up on the guy, he's probably had way to many years on Windows. Heck, I hear this from regular Linux users myself and often it is rebooting the OS to "fix" a networking problem.
People just don't know how the systems work these days and magic is the only thing they know.
I have run across flash showing up in a few locations so this is probably what happened to this guy and unfortunately, he only knew a re-installation fixed his problems. Sad but a good example of how uninformed computer users are today.
ok, so you are saying that they produced "HTTPRequest object" with the W3C? I doubt that and would figure it was probably originally tied to some Windows-only technology. Even if in the far off chance they did submit this to the W3C, I'd bet that they would take it off the market in a heartbeat if they could.
And I don't doubt they have some good developers. They, as a business, don't put solutions or customers first so that their shareholders are rewarded. They know their shareholders are rewarded only because they've got Windows in a monopoly position and keeping it there with anti-competitive tricks and methods is what they do and have done.
If the cure for cancer came out on a Mac or Linux, Microsoft would crush that and the result would be more like a Kleenex for the common cold. IMO.
and this should not surprise anyone. Cross platform technologies are a threat to Windows and since over 80% of Microsofts profits come from Windows, cross platform technologies are a threat to them. So don't wonder why Microsoft keeps pushing stuff which only works on Windows or pushes for things which slow down adaption for open standards.
exactly what Microsoft is doing its best work to cause. Javascript and all the tech in AJAX which allows application-like browser-neutral pages is a massive threat to Microsoft's income.
I don't know what Microsoft had to do with this but their position on any industry committee is purely to find ways to either stall the project or make sure they have ways to dilute it on Windows. They have no other reason or purpose. IMO.
Wow, what a shame all this stuff from the 90's never made it into the market in numbers. One thing about the specs caught my eye. Check out the Battery specs:
Batteries 24 GM/Ovonic Nickel metal hydride battery, 12v 90ah
Now that Chevron owns the patent rights to NiMH, the largest amp/hr rating of NiMH batteries I've seen is 9AH. These suckers were 90AH!
They funny thing is GM isn't allowed to use hi power NiMH on their proposed new EV, the GM Volt. With only a 40 mile range, they're going with the much more expensive(though lighter) Lithium batteries.
especially when we have seen dominant characters in this industry use technical techniques to block competition. A PC market without competition at the chipset level is dangerous for anyone who appreciates putting any OS on any hardware. IMO.
First off, these are not of the same techniques or cost of those 40% efficient cells you mention so your talking apples and oranges here. Secondly, are you saying it does not matter how many panels or their size is a cost consideration?
If anything, the article shows that price/watt is not the ONLY thing to be considered in the widescale adaption of solar PV technology.
the problem is that they are only getting about 10% conversion efficiency out of their panels. What this means is that you'll need more square footage of panels than say 15% efficient panels. That means more roof space, more racks/rails, and more panels with all their frames and wiring.
they say a theoretical 20% efficiency is obtainable but when you have subsidized orders out to 2012, it will only the the competition that'll force them to try harder to get the efficiencies up. Right now, they are making money and looking to expand manufacturing.
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isn't it funny everyone jumps on my 2nd comment, the CO2 comment and not the comment about financing foreign governments with oil purchases.
And no shit the earth is older than 5,000 years but do you really want to count the history of high CO2 levels which prevented animal life's existence? This might give you a clue as to why my comment was technically incorrect but regarding human existence, it has relevance.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/gases_carbondioxide.shtml
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I can't recall the presentation data I've seen but it was presented in a way which showed estimated levels of CO2 from things like ice core samples and then measured data from something like the 60s forward. There was a steep steep increase in the past few decades over the historic records. I could have the numbers wrong but from a presentation done by Dr Jeff Severinghaus showed humans are the cause for a sharp increase in worldwide CO2 levels. He used chemicals trapped in ancient ice core samples to show how much was man made and how much was not man made.
And if you throw out "global warming" there are two factors which should show we need to reduce our oil burning ways. #1, data showing sharp increases in man made air born particulates and health related issues from these. #2, the money being sent to other countries and governments for that 20%-30% of foreign oil we use every year and is worth many many billions annually.
I do not believe we are not having any effect on the earths systems. IMO, the things we should be doing to rid ourselves of our oil addiction are also things which help with out output of CO2 gases. And CO2 gases cause retained heat.
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you're just talking common sense out your ass so you must obviously be bleeding heart liberal. ;-)
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we are seeing record setting cold temps because all the heat and hot air is enveloping the McCain campaign.
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yes, don't inconvenience yourself just because you and the other millions are sending trillions of dollars to middle east fanatic governments. Don't inconvenience yourself because you can't see the CO2 content in the atmosphere is over 2 times higher than it has ever been in the history of the planet and you can't see that.
just keep doing things the same way and cry when you have to pay $200/week to fill your SUV and your kids all have asthma.
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they're old news in the sense that it is getting boring to hear from or about them. There may be new press releases but stuff like Balmer claiming Googles Android was just a press release shows how much like "old news" they are.
There brand is falling and there are other more exciting things going on. So it's like talking about old news. IMO
LoB
right, the ad agency is considered "the hippest of the hip", not Seinfeld. I see now that they could do a 'hip' commercial without using updated elements. Kinda like the commercials where they get a customer to explain car insurance and some psueudo-famous person to give their interpretation. Hip without characters being hip. Got it.
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Seinfeld as hip? Yikes, this should be interesting and probably funny. Not funny haha but funny as in silly.
Well, both Seinfeld and Microsoft are old news so they have that much in common. Vista is a yawn and again, something in common. Seinfeld tried to do a movie( Bee Movie ) and Microsoft tried to do another OS release( Vista ) and both were flops.
Any other things people can think Seinfeld and Microsoft/Vista have in common?
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seeing the patent listing I had forgot about the mention of the inkjet printer. She definitely is not doing the cooked copper/cuprous oxide method of building a solar cell.
I'm not sure how many "dark" places are also going to have electricity for computers and inkjet printers yet still need this to make solar cells. I guess we'll see what happens with the patent and if DIYers can and will create these for others to use.
LoB
By cooking a copper plate you can cause a layer of cuprous oxide to form on one side of the plate. If you take a 2nd copper plate and put them in a saline solution, you can measure 50 or so uA in sunlight.
So, maybe she found a replacement for the liquid saline solution or uses the fingernail polish to seal a sandwiched material soaked in saline.
If interested, search using "solar cell copper cuprous" and you'll find a good list of references to this.
One big problem here for using these for lighting solutions is the fact that when there is light to generate the electricity, they don't need the light. What is needed is a combination DIY solar cell which is also a battery. Do that and have it store even just 100 or 200 mAh of energy and with an LED, you could possibly light up millions of dark homes around the world. IMO
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so the development community should do what is right and forget what business interest(s) have done to manipulate those organizations committee projects.
If MS-Office Open XML did not show you this then I would have no idea how else to make this so obvious.
So the community should either just get it done on their own or find an organization which has not shown they can be bought and/or over run by business-only interests. IMO.
The ECMA and ISO have outlived their usefulness.
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valid points and I too would expect the extra costs to be well under $50. The choice still has to be, do they add $25, $50, or even $100 to the cost of the device to have this one - two week battery life or add no extra parts and get two - three days at no extra cost? I would have thought that the no extra cost option would spread much more before someone put in a totally separate CPU system. Maybe a work-around for Microsoft's single OS contract restrictions.
I really don't think that people would be against recharging every couple of days and this feature would be pretty much free to the manufacturer on the hardware side. I hope we see more of both.
I do like the ARM based approach and its very long battery life. What would be really nice would be if that system could be booted from a disk image for a more feature rich experience for those who want to add some other application(s).
LoB
it seems odd because there is a CPU, memory, etc already there vi the x86 CPU and system. Couldn't they just run that CPU under clocked and without using the hard disk to vastly improve battery life?
myself, I've run a liveCD every now and then when on the road just to keep access to personal info away from insecure networks. This also brings up the thought that a WUBI based boot option which runs memory resident and shuts down the HD could be very much like what Dell and others are doing with the BIOS or additional CPU system is doing. Obviously, setting CPU freq lower would be desirable for longer batt life.
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hey, it's new to about 90% of the population and Windows OEMs. When was the LinuxBIOS project started?
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Dell is the only one who puts an extra CPU in there to run the Linux BIOS image so all that hardware you mentioned, except the hard drive, is fully used by the Linux image on the other systems.
It seems strange that Dell would put in a 2nd CPU but it does make it drop dead easy to design this way. There are tons of ARM based SoCs to pick from and pretty much all of them have Linux BSPs.
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ease up on the guy, he's probably had way to many years on Windows. Heck, I hear this from regular Linux users myself and often it is rebooting the OS to "fix" a networking problem.
People just don't know how the systems work these days and magic is the only thing they know.
I have run across flash showing up in a few locations so this is probably what happened to this guy and unfortunately, he only knew a re-installation fixed his problems. Sad but a good example of how uninformed computer users are today.
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I've found 9.0 r124 to be the most stable for me( both FF v2 and v3 )
from about:plugins:
Shockwave Flash
File name: /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so
Shockwave Flash 9.0 r124
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ok, so you are saying that they produced "HTTPRequest object" with the W3C? I doubt that and would figure it was probably originally tied to some Windows-only technology. Even if in the far off chance they did submit this to the W3C, I'd bet that they would take it off the market in a heartbeat if they could.
And I don't doubt they have some good developers. They, as a business, don't put solutions or customers first so that their shareholders are rewarded. They know their shareholders are rewarded only because they've got Windows in a monopoly position and keeping it there with anti-competitive tricks and methods is what they do and have done.
If the cure for cancer came out on a Mac or Linux, Microsoft would crush that and the result would be more like a Kleenex for the common cold. IMO.
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and this should not surprise anyone. Cross platform technologies are a threat to Windows and since over 80% of Microsofts profits come from Windows, cross platform technologies are a threat to them. So don't wonder why Microsoft keeps pushing stuff which only works on Windows or pushes for things which slow down adaption for open standards.
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exactly what Microsoft is doing its best work to cause. Javascript and all the tech in AJAX which allows application-like browser-neutral pages is a massive threat to Microsoft's income.
I don't know what Microsoft had to do with this but their position on any industry committee is purely to find ways to either stall the project or make sure they have ways to dilute it on Windows. They have no other reason or purpose. IMO.
LoB
Wow, what a shame all this stuff from the 90's never made it into the market in numbers. One thing about the specs caught my eye. Check out the Battery specs:
Batteries
24 GM/Ovonic Nickel metal hydride battery, 12v 90ah
Now that Chevron owns the patent rights to NiMH, the largest amp/hr rating of NiMH batteries I've seen is 9AH. These suckers were 90AH!
They funny thing is GM isn't allowed to use hi power NiMH on their proposed new EV, the GM Volt. With only a 40 mile range, they're going with the much more expensive(though lighter) Lithium batteries.
LoB
especially when we have seen dominant characters in this industry use technical techniques to block competition. A PC market without competition at the chipset level is dangerous for anyone who appreciates putting any OS on any hardware. IMO.
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First off, these are not of the same techniques or cost of those 40% efficient cells you mention so your talking apples and oranges here. Secondly, are you saying it does not matter how many panels or their size is a cost consideration?
If anything, the article shows that price/watt is not the ONLY thing to be considered in the widescale adaption of solar PV technology.
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the problem is that they are only getting about 10% conversion efficiency out of their panels. What this means is that you'll need more square footage of panels than say 15% efficient panels. That means more roof space, more racks/rails, and more panels with all their frames and wiring.
they say a theoretical 20% efficiency is obtainable but when you have subsidized orders out to 2012, it will only the the competition that'll force them to try harder to get the efficiencies up. Right now, they are making money and looking to expand manufacturing.
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isn't their online video replay forcing MS Silverlight on those who want to watch it? NBC is still Microsoft's bitch.
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