You show me a mobile device that had drag scrolling, visual voicemail, pinch to zoom, a smooth, responsive UI and a proper browser before the iPhone came along.
I'm sure someone had it in a lab somewhere, in the market?, no fucking way, so yeah, it was a revolution and if you look around, every new smartphone looks just like it one way or another.
Most people have been led to believe they need an Anti-virus scanner
Fixed that for you.
so if a website tells them they can download one for a small fee, they will.
There's a difference between telling someone they can download an anti-virus scanner for a small fee and throwing an ominous looking pop up window saying something along the lines of "YOUR COMPUTER IS ABOUT TO GET INFECTED AND SOMEONE WILL STEAL YOUR BANK DETAILS YOU SHOULD PURCHASE OUR ANTI-VIRUS NOW OR ELSE".
You gotta give it to companies like McAffee, Symantec, etc... they know how to scare people into handing over money so they are "protected". It was only a matter of time before people started to copy their methods.
Is its name: Both iOS and Android are ubiquitous and multipurpose, WP7 will never get even close in market share and you won't see TVs running Windows 7 any-time soon.
There is one advantage Windows Mobile 7 doesn't have: Market Share, not to mention user goodwill, a clue, or a hint of a desire to innovate.
Android is versatile and is becoming pretty much ubiquitous: TVs, Tablets, MP3 players, Laptops... same with iOS. Windows Phone 7 won't be used on anything beyond phones, hence the name.
Microsoft have no vision beyond what is right in front of them, by the time this version of Windows Mobile gains any sort of significant market share everyone else will have moved on: It's 3 years late and offers nothing new.
If you fast forward to around the 3.30 mark you'll pretty much see why the Windows 7 tablet is doomed. Steve Ballmer mumbling about makes it all the more priceless!
Windows Mobile was a place holder. Windows Phone 7 is a game changer.
iOS was a game changer, Android was a game changer, WebOS was a game changer.
Windows Mobile 7 is a knock off and they know it, which is why they're suing, as far as app development, the future is in web apps, which are usable on any platform, Silverlight was obsolete before it was even released.
I just don't understand why people think Google is this benevolent company trying to bring happiness and rainbows to anything. Everything they produce, free or not open source or not, has the goal of making a profit for their shareholders. If you really think about it they are following a M$ model anyway. They offer a mix of free and pay services. Why use them, because they play really really well with each other as opposed to buying many different vendor products that while they do the same thing require more time and effort to work together. Sounds a lot like the M$ server lines.
Sure Google are out to make a profit, but they make billions a year by offering a superior product and promoting innovation, not suing companies who try to get off their leash.
This story is a complete fantasy. Pratchett has advanced Alzheimer and is not capable of making anything.
I'm not sure if this story is generated by his publisher to get a last moment of fame and sell more books, or that someone is playing a cruel joke on Terry.
Leave the man be, he has enough worries.
Aw I'll bite!
I just saw him in an interview on the BBC and he seemed pretty clear headed to me. Plus of course there's the fact that he is still publishing bestsellers while all you can do is post anonymously in Slashdot.
just how easily people's minds are swayed by giving them the right bits of information, get people to see through an 80 minute movie and they'll come out thinking they know a person they've never actually met.
Well I do like the fact that there IS something wrong in the files, otherwise he wouldn't be getting this much attention. I'll give him extra kudos for staying clear of the vicious circle of violence everyone else is happily jumping into.
Whether or not he is doing the right thing is a different matter, personally, I'll take him over FOX News any day, but clearly that's just me.
Current apps are not designed for touch so having OS support means nothing.
Ah, a bloated OS forced to support legacy software for which no touchscreen based applications exist. I could not think of a better platform to build tablets around!
And looks pretty rubbish loved the crappy input latency on the map app and the fact that they're still using mouse emulation for the touchscreen.... I thought Windows 7 had proper support for touch input.
And yet only Google seem to get it right.
For all you try and belittle them they keep people coming back for more while the grumpy neighbor next door wonders why nobody takes his free candy.
In Microsoft's vision, slates will run a derivative of Windows 7.
Windows was created with Keyboard and Mouse in mind, yes you can jig things around and make it work on a tablet but you're killing the user experience.
Like so many people have already said, MS need to stop playing catchup. They've been working on touch for a decade and brought nothing worth buying to the market.
A tablet would be an ideal device on which to introduce Windows Mobile 7, only it's Windows Phone 7 now so I guess they can't do that anymore. Instead he wants to preserve his desktop OS market share from falling by shoving Windows 7 down people's throats.
Windows programs are not built with touch in mind, sure you can use mouse input emulation but you're simply adding another layer of complexity to the UI, this becomes another barrier the user has to overcome when interacting with an application. This is the main reason tablet devices have not become popular until now.
People can laugh at Apple and make fun of iPhone users, but if it wasn't for them we'd still be using a stylus to drag a scroollbar instead of finger scrolling. Ballmer needs to think more about the user experience and less about market share, as Apple have already proven it is the former that will drive the latter.
Slashdot Mirror
First result was MSN money.
Benjamin Edelman is a troll.
You show me a mobile device that had drag scrolling, visual voicemail, pinch to zoom, a smooth, responsive UI and a proper browser before the iPhone came along.
I'm sure someone had it in a lab somewhere, in the market?, no fucking way, so yeah, it was a revolution and if you look around, every new smartphone looks just like it one way or another.
Most people have been led to believe they need an Anti-virus scanner
Fixed that for you.
so if a website tells them they can download one for a small fee, they will.
There's a difference between telling someone they can download an anti-virus scanner for a small fee and throwing an ominous looking pop up window saying something along the lines of "YOUR COMPUTER IS ABOUT TO GET INFECTED AND SOMEONE WILL STEAL YOUR BANK DETAILS YOU SHOULD PURCHASE OUR ANTI-VIRUS NOW OR ELSE".
Here is a good example
You gotta give it to companies like McAffee, Symantec, etc... they know how to scare people into handing over money so they are "protected". It was only a matter of time before people started to copy their methods.
Is its name: Both iOS and Android are ubiquitous and multipurpose, WP7 will never get even close in market share and you won't see TVs running Windows 7 any-time soon.
Nah, FUD would be something like saying "Using our phones won't get you sued" and then suing someone who doesn't use your phones.
Microsoft releasing an inferior product to poor sales in act of desperation can only be called poetic justice.
No, it's about a seeder and a leecher. I'll let you figure out which is which.
Yes, and a good chunk of them are rallying on the streets every day to try and keep it that way.
Bless'em
All the while Apple keep sneaking up on them, it'd be so ironic if Steve Jobs turned the tables on them some 30odd years later.
There is one advantage Windows Mobile 7 doesn't have: Market Share, not to mention user goodwill, a clue, or a hint of a desire to innovate.
Android is versatile and is becoming pretty much ubiquitous: TVs, Tablets, MP3 players, Laptops... same with iOS. Windows Phone 7 won't be used on anything beyond phones, hence the name.
Microsoft have no vision beyond what is right in front of them, by the time this version of Windows Mobile gains any sort of significant market share everyone else will have moved on: It's 3 years late and offers nothing new.
I mean, seriously: Bonjour?
<shudder>
Bonjour is fine, and works first time, the same cannot be said about UPnP
You just sold me a mouse. And there I was thinking I was inmune to online advertising... ohhh look free emoticons!
If you fast forward to around the 3.30 mark you'll pretty much see why the Windows 7 tablet is doomed. Steve Ballmer mumbling about makes it all the more priceless!
Windows Mobile was a place holder. Windows Phone 7 is a game changer.
iOS was a game changer, Android was a game changer, WebOS was a game changer.
Windows Mobile 7 is a knock off and they know it, which is why they're suing, as far as app development, the future is in web apps, which are usable on any platform, Silverlight was obsolete before it was even released.
I just don't understand why people think Google is this benevolent company trying to bring happiness and rainbows to anything. Everything they produce, free or not open source or not, has the goal of making a profit for their shareholders. If you really think about it they are following a M$ model anyway. They offer a mix of free and pay services. Why use them, because they play really really well with each other as opposed to buying many different vendor products that while they do the same thing require more time and effort to work together. Sounds a lot like the M$ server lines.
Sure Google are out to make a profit, but they make billions a year by offering a superior product and promoting innovation, not suing companies who try to get off their leash.
This story is a complete fantasy. Pratchett has advanced Alzheimer and is not capable of making anything.
I'm not sure if this story is generated by his publisher to get a last moment of fame and sell more books, or that someone is playing a cruel joke on Terry.
Leave the man be, he has enough worries.
Aw I'll bite!
I just saw him in an interview on the BBC and he seemed pretty clear headed to me. Plus of course there's the fact that he is still publishing bestsellers while all you can do is post anonymously in Slashdot.
Pratchett with Alzheimers > You.
just how easily people's minds are swayed by giving them the right bits of information, get people to see through an 80 minute movie and they'll come out thinking they know a person they've never actually met.
Well I do like the fact that there IS something wrong in the files, otherwise he wouldn't be getting this much attention. I'll give him extra kudos for staying clear of the vicious circle of violence everyone else is happily jumping into.
Whether or not he is doing the right thing is a different matter, personally, I'll take him over FOX News any day, but clearly that's just me.
Current apps are not designed for touch so having OS support means nothing.
Ah, a bloated OS forced to support legacy software for which no touchscreen based applications exist. I could not think of a better platform to build tablets around!
And looks pretty rubbish loved the crappy input latency on the map app and the fact that they're still using mouse emulation for the touchscreen.... I thought Windows 7 had proper support for touch input.
Altavista is owned by Yahoo, who now get their search results from Bing. How about living a day without Microsoft instead?
It'll be a while before it begins to shine but it's pretty darn promising.
:)
btw, don't like it?, turn it off, it'll remember and stop annoying you
And yet only Google seem to get it right.
For all you try and belittle them they keep people coming back for more while the grumpy neighbor next door wonders why nobody takes his free candy.
In Microsoft's vision, slates will run a derivative of Windows 7.
Windows was created with Keyboard and Mouse in mind, yes you can jig things around and make it work on a tablet but you're killing the user experience.
Like so many people have already said, MS need to stop playing catchup. They've been working on touch for a decade and brought nothing worth buying to the market.
A tablet would be an ideal device on which to introduce Windows Mobile 7, only it's Windows Phone 7 now so I guess they can't do that anymore. Instead he wants to preserve his desktop OS market share from falling by shoving Windows 7 down people's throats.
Windows programs are not built with touch in mind, sure you can use mouse input emulation but you're simply adding another layer of complexity to the UI, this becomes another barrier the user has to overcome when interacting with an application. This is the main reason tablet devices have not become popular until now.
People can laugh at Apple and make fun of iPhone users, but if it wasn't for them we'd still be using a stylus to drag a scroollbar instead of finger scrolling. Ballmer needs to think more about the user experience and less about market share, as Apple have already proven it is the former that will drive the latter.