As I said Kantars numbers put Apple at 21% but then they only measure 'Úrban China'...this is not the first time Kantar Numbers have been lets say surprising;)
Tomi does a good writeup of marketshare movements, and includes information from the 4 main market research groups in this area. I mainly use IDC because they show trends in nice graphs,but there is rarely anything between them.
To show there is nothing new under the sun...ironically from the wikipedia entry "On January 24, 2007, Rick Jelliffe made claim on his blog that a Microsoft employee offered to pay him to make corrections in Wikipedia articles concerning Office Open XML" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Microsoft
But yet the ipad makes up more than 80% of online tablet traffic. Hmm
Sales in China of the iPhone are 1%...one analytics's company places the iPhone at 20%; everybody laughed . You need to back up your figures say when they have been taken...the iPad plummeted in a year, and show how the information was collected.
Again through that does not equate to sales, its a interesting topic. Linux is 100% Market share;) (in my house)
It's packing LTE, and a 2.2GHz Snapdragon 800 CPU inside, with a bright 650nit screen made out of Gorilla Glass 2. A 6.7MP rear camera featuring Zeiss optics and a 2MP front facing camera. 800mAh battery go from drained to 50 percent charge in just 40 minutes. The Nokia Power Keyboard accessory extra $149, and promises an extra five hours of battery life plus two extra USB ports.
Its not really the best article when it cuts out all the information!!!!!! The fact is is 3 times as expensive as new Nexus 7 with a less desirable OS. Other than it being fun(or depressing) to kick what is left of Nokia. I am not sure of the relevance. I cant help finding it extra ironic(or again depressing) that Windows Phone limited success has been at undercutting Android in its traditional counties.
The irony is not lost on me of accessing a website *designed* for tablets. I actually like the verge, but its front page is painful on a real computer, as is the stupid *click* *click* *click* of a slideshow. Can programmers really not manage to present two different ways of presenting information.
Do you not keep up with current events. the iPad is the looser tablet. Its market share has plummeted from 60% of sales last year to 32% http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS24253413 . Ironically Microsoft could have been in this position if...well lots of ifs really... not trying to be Apple would have been one of them. Perhaps you should Google sometime...you can get it even on the iPad;)
Desktop Linux is "Almost Awesome" for non-power users too.
...is a delight. In context of this article Ubuntu was incredibly successful with its "Linux for Human beings"(I miss that). Ironically unlike Mac and Windows Chrome OS/Android and GNU/Linux(Give it a name) are the only parts of the PC market growing!!!
https://plus.google.com/106978520009932034644/posts/L8FJkrcahPs This is Guillaume Lesniak Google+ post about CyanogenMod's Focal camera app. He doesn't like that licensing changes accompanying the new venture would limit his control. Accordingly, he has removed Focal from CyanogenMod
How much freer could Android be? The entire platform is open source.
The only thing proprietary are the video drivers and that's because GPU vendors are douche bags.
....Android is a mix of a whole bunch of licenses. That are likely to be APACHE (Source for hoycomb anyone) as much as they under GPL...and even Linux is famously a slightly amended GPL License. The first party applications...which in my opinion are what makes Android, are not only proprietary, they work is actually done remotely in the cloud, something RMS speaks badly about for reasons.
That said if you really want to know about free from the lad himself this is Dick on http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/android-and-users-freedom.html Android which discusses all kind of interesting things including...Replicant a truly free android. As a pleasant aside https://f-droid.org/ is an open source app store with open source programs, a must for those more careful with there software, and another feather in the cap of the awesome Android.
To compete for "the fastest" title they're constantly pushing the limits of what could reasonably be considered a phone. At 5.2 inches it's getting close to a 7 inch tablet, next time around I'll have to get a "mini" phone for it to be anywhere close to my current iPhone 4.
Size is going up because for those people bigger is better, because its more useful when you are doing *smart* things on one. One of the reasons for iPhones plummeting market share worldwide is due to it not having a product in this desirable market.
That report was later discredited. The accusation was largely based on the fact that the testers had disabled hyperthreading on the compared Dell PC: it turned out they had done this because it made that benchmark result *better*. They showed the x86 in its best possible light, so that those in the peanut gallery couldn't credibly accuse them of bias in favour of the G5.
So by best possible light you meant returning figures of "SPECint base score of 800, 889 and 836" instead of "1089" and "SPECfp base scores were 840, 693 and 646" instead of "1053" to by *better* you mean iPhone better;)
Google stock hits a record on its quarterly results...Jumping 8% in after hour trading. Its ad revenue despite what the article implies grew 17% year-over-year. That is up from its 15% growth in the second quarter.
But the reality is Googles growth is in "Other" revenue; which grew 85% thanks to sale of Apps...sound like they are monetizing Android even without advertising.
Users will pay for features they need, but most users don't need much from a phone.
...that explains the rise of smartphones. I think you have to start excepting that users are demanding a lot from their portable computers that just happen to have phone functionality.
Being the cheapest in the market usually gets you the most market share. That doesn't mean people *want* to use it.
Ironically *expensive* features like high resolution; large screens and waterproofing is why android is 80% of the market, The iphones low cost low resolution; small screen water adverse with massive mark-up is why its profitable but unpopular.
It has almost 80% of the market because it costs much less to make a phone and the manufacturer
Actually with curved screens; FM radio transmitters and receivers; waterproofing; real keyboards; large high definition screens produced in smaller quantites they cost more to make the just sell for less price which maked them better market, Those extra features make them more appealing to consumers as well as the better value.
That 80% market share hasn't translated into more profits for app developers, or more apps being available for Android than the iPhone.
Actually App downloads and App availability are unsurprisingly higher on Android. In fact in markets like China(The largest Market worldwide) where the iPhone is 1% its even worse with few applications being developed for it. The world is now Androids.
comes with some incredible first party applications.
On Windows, I believe that's called "crapware".
"crapware" is what Microsoft called preinstalled competing programs. "crapware" is what manufactures use to reduce costs. "crapware" is what makes my linux machines so "cheap";Secure boot will put the end to that which is real crapware.
By First party applications I mean "Google Maps" which Apple replaced to worldwide ridicule. OR YouTube which Microsoft is bitching about to goverment about monopolistic abuse for Google not supporting their pitiful platform. You know the ones that built on Google services.
Worldwide the iphone sells at 13%. That is not what I would call flocking to anything. Although the irony of the iPhone being the most expensive choice and The Poorest Value with little to no compelling hardware features infared...No!; Waterproof....No!; etc etc All that the salesman can sell if carrier services. At least you can get last years model in plastic for $100 less.
In every one of these threads you claim Apple phones are expensive when they're priced on par with the competing Samsung Galaxy devices.
Also you're a hypocrite, how many times have you dismissed Apple as fashion, look at your bloody comment history you troll.
In a state the fact that Apple is a cheap Chinese phone on cost and an expensive on price, what Samsung offer is Better Value Phones. Although personally I will be looking at the LG Nexus this time.
What pisses customers off is when you've decided "I want a Samsung, it must have IM, YT, FB and cloud storage and at least 16GB of memory" and are then shown 30 colours, with/without LTE, 3G,EDGE,WiFi,... to choose from after they've already made their mind up KNOWING that the salesman cannot be relied upon to draw the correct for the customer conclusion about which one to buy, preferring instead to upsell to things that are either going to cost a shitload to use (e.g. "cloud storage plus") WITHOUT saying that they'll cost or are wasted money (EDGE in the USA) or WiFi when there are few free hotspots and the contract includes wireless data plans that make WiFi mostly redundant.
You are talking about the problems being the carriers/salesman, that does not change regardless of phone or operating system.
On the one hand there are advocates who want it to be used by as many people - ordinary people who neither know nor care about "open" software - as possible.
Except that is not even remotely true...Although I am not sure of the relevance to this choice. Ignoring your offensive comments. Its interesting no note...suddenly everybody...those ordinary people(sic) are suddenly concerned about "open" they don't use those words, they use words like "privacy" and "human rights" and "government" and "company" "abuses". We don't talk about open source here because we are clever we are just good at this...I personally would struggle with brain surgery....hell I struggle making food more complicated than pizza, but because we understand the underlying technology more than "cooks" "doctors" "lawyers"...or "brain surgeons", we talk about open source as being part of a possible solution,, as well as it being a great development model, teaching aid, cost saving....Maybe because we know a little bit about it out words matter.
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"1% china share. "
You need to back up your numbers.
http://www.counterpointresearch.com/9-out-of-10-handsets-sold-in-china-are-smartphones "15% Samsung, 11% Lenovo, 11% Coolpad (Yulong), 7% ZTE, 6% Huawei, 3% Nokia and 1% Apple. 45% of China's market is split by the approx 1,000 local domestic brands that almost all do Android."
As I said Kantars numbers put Apple at 21% but then they only measure 'Úrban China'...this is not the first time Kantar Numbers have been lets say surprising ;)
Tomi does a good writeup of marketshare movements, and includes information from the 4 main market research groups in this area. I mainly use IDC because they show trends in nice graphs,but there is rarely anything between them.
To show there is nothing new under the sun...ironically from the wikipedia entry "On January 24, 2007, Rick Jelliffe made claim on his blog that a Microsoft employee offered to pay him to make corrections in Wikipedia articles concerning Office Open XML" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Microsoft
But yet the ipad makes up more than 80% of online tablet traffic.
Hmm
Sales in China of the iPhone are 1%...one analytics's company places the iPhone at 20%; everybody laughed . You need to back up your figures say when they have been taken...the iPad plummeted in a year, and show how the information was collected.
Again through that does not equate to sales, its a interesting topic. Linux is 100% Market share ;) (in my house)
It's packing LTE, and a 2.2GHz Snapdragon 800 CPU inside, with a bright 650nit screen made out of Gorilla Glass 2. A 6.7MP rear camera featuring Zeiss optics and a 2MP front facing camera. 800mAh battery go from drained to 50 percent charge in just 40 minutes. The Nokia Power Keyboard accessory extra $149, and promises an extra five hours of battery life plus two extra USB ports.
Its not really the best article when it cuts out all the information!!!!!! The fact is is 3 times as expensive as new Nexus 7 with a less desirable OS. Other than it being fun(or depressing) to kick what is left of Nokia. I am not sure of the relevance. I cant help finding it extra ironic(or again depressing) that Windows Phone limited success has been at undercutting Android in its traditional counties.
The irony is not lost on me of accessing a website *designed* for tablets. I actually like the verge, but its front page is painful on a real computer, as is the stupid *click* *click* *click* of a slideshow. Can programmers really not manage to present two different ways of presenting information.
iPad is the one to beat, this does not do it.
Do you not keep up with current events. the iPad is the looser tablet. Its market share has plummeted from 60% of sales last year to 32% http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS24253413 . Ironically Microsoft could have been in this position if...well lots of ifs really... not trying to be Apple would have been one of them. Perhaps you should Google sometime...you can get it even on the iPad ;)
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/10/googles-iron-grip-on-android-controlling-open-source-by-any-means-necessary/4/
Ars has been unashamedly an Apple site for so long. Getting them to write anything sensible about open source or Google is impossible.
Desktop Linux is "Almost Awesome" for non-power users too.
...is a delight. In context of this article Ubuntu was incredibly successful with its "Linux for Human beings"(I miss that). Ironically unlike Mac and Windows Chrome OS/Android and GNU/Linux(Give it a name) are the only parts of the PC market growing!!!
Except don't expect CyanogenMod to be in the future https://plus.google.com/106978520009932034644/posts/L8FJkrcahPs .Ironically because open source is the reason for their assistance they seem to be trying hard to wreck a great model fro them.
https://plus.google.com/106978520009932034644/posts/L8FJkrcahPs This is Guillaume Lesniak Google+ post about CyanogenMod's Focal camera app. He doesn't like that licensing changes accompanying the new venture would limit his control. Accordingly, he has removed Focal from CyanogenMod
Umm... Android is openâ"except for all the good parts.
There is really no point in quoting Ars for anything remotely sensible when it comes to Android. They are a Apple site.
How much freer could Android be? The entire platform is open source.
The only thing proprietary are the video drivers and that's because GPU vendors are douche bags.
....Android is a mix of a whole bunch of licenses. That are likely to be APACHE (Source for hoycomb anyone) as much as they under GPL...and even Linux is famously a slightly amended GPL License. The first party applications...which in my opinion are what makes Android, are not only proprietary, they work is actually done remotely in the cloud, something RMS speaks badly about for reasons.
That said if you really want to know about free from the lad himself this is Dick on http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/android-and-users-freedom.html Android which discusses all kind of interesting things including...Replicant a truly free android. As a pleasant aside https://f-droid.org/ is an open source app store with open source programs, a must for those more careful with there software, and another feather in the cap of the awesome Android.
....you must be using one of those slow iPhones.
Haven't heard of things like project butter...get informed http://www.geeksquad.co.uk/articles/what-is-project-butter-in-android-jelly-bean-4-1
To compete for "the fastest" title they're constantly pushing the limits of what could reasonably be considered a phone. At 5.2 inches it's getting close to a 7 inch tablet, next time around I'll have to get a "mini" phone for it to be anywhere close to my current iPhone 4.
Size is going up because for those people bigger is better, because its more useful when you are doing *smart* things on one. One of the reasons for iPhones plummeting market share worldwide is due to it not having a product in this desirable market.
That report was later discredited. The accusation was largely based on the fact that the testers had disabled hyperthreading on the compared Dell PC: it turned out they had done this because it made that benchmark result *better*. They showed the x86 in its best possible light, so that those in the peanut gallery couldn't credibly accuse them of bias in favour of the G5.
So by best possible light you meant returning figures of "SPECint base score of 800, 889 and 836" instead of "1089" and "SPECfp base scores were 840, 693 and 646" instead of "1053" to by *better* you mean iPhone better ;)
Only companies worth buying from right now are Moto and Apple.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/06/24/apple_accused_of_cheating_over/ Seriously if you want to hold a company up as a measure of virtue you should probably make sure they are.
Google stock hits a record on its quarterly results...Jumping 8% in after hour trading. Its ad revenue despite what the article implies grew 17% year-over-year. That is up from its 15% growth in the second quarter.
But the reality is Googles growth is in "Other" revenue; which grew 85% thanks to sale of Apps...sound like they are monetizing Android even without advertising.
Graph showing revenue by revenue source http://b-i.forbesimg.com/roberthof/files/2013/10/Screen-shot-2013-10-17-at-1.45.11-PM.png
Users will pay for features they need, but most users don't need much from a phone.
...that explains the rise of smartphones. I think you have to start excepting that users are demanding a lot from their portable computers that just happen to have phone functionality.
Being the cheapest in the market usually gets you the most market share. That doesn't mean people *want* to use it.
Ironically *expensive* features like high resolution; large screens and waterproofing is why android is 80% of the market, The iphones low cost low resolution; small screen water adverse with massive mark-up is why its profitable but unpopular.
It has almost 80% of the market because it costs much less to make a phone and the manufacturer
Actually with curved screens; FM radio transmitters and receivers; waterproofing; real keyboards; large high definition screens produced in smaller quantites they cost more to make the just sell for less price which maked them better market, Those extra features make them more appealing to consumers as well as the better value.
That 80% market share hasn't translated into more profits for app developers, or more apps being available for Android than the iPhone.
Actually App downloads and App availability are unsurprisingly higher on Android. In fact in markets like China(The largest Market worldwide) where the iPhone is 1% its even worse with few applications being developed for it. The world is now Androids.
comes with some incredible first party applications.
On Windows, I believe that's called "crapware".
"crapware" is what Microsoft called preinstalled competing programs. "crapware" is what manufactures use to reduce costs. "crapware" is what makes my linux machines so "cheap";Secure boot will put the end to that which is real crapware.
By First party applications I mean "Google Maps" which Apple replaced to worldwide ridicule. OR YouTube which Microsoft is bitching about to goverment about monopolistic abuse for Google not supporting their pitiful platform. You know the ones that built on Google services.
People flock to iPhone
Worldwide the iphone sells at 13%. That is not what I would call flocking to anything. Although the irony of the iPhone being the most expensive choice and The Poorest Value with little to no compelling hardware features infared...No!; Waterproof....No!; etc etc All that the salesman can sell if carrier services. At least you can get last years model in plastic for $100 less.
In every one of these threads you claim Apple phones are expensive when they're priced on par with the competing Samsung Galaxy devices.
Also you're a hypocrite, how many times have you dismissed Apple as fashion, look at your bloody comment history you troll.
In a state the fact that Apple is a cheap Chinese phone on cost and an expensive on price, what Samsung offer is Better Value Phones. Although personally I will be looking at the LG Nexus this time.
I don't discuss fashion although it is related. I discuss Brand and Mindshare which Apple spend a lot of time and trouble cultivating, and it worth more than any other brand on the planet. http://www.interbrand.com/en/knowledge/blog/post/2013-10-08/Apple-Tiger-Woods-and-the-burden-of-brand-expectations.aspx
What pisses customers off is when you've decided "I want a Samsung, it must have IM, YT, FB and cloud storage and at least 16GB of memory" and are then shown 30 colours, with/without LTE, 3G,EDGE,WiFi,... to choose from after they've already made their mind up KNOWING that the salesman cannot be relied upon to draw the correct for the customer conclusion about which one to buy, preferring instead to upsell to things that are either going to cost a shitload to use (e.g. "cloud storage plus") WITHOUT saying that they'll cost or are wasted money (EDGE in the USA) or WiFi when there are few free hotspots and the contract includes wireless data plans that make WiFi mostly redundant.
You are talking about the problems being the carriers/salesman, that does not change regardless of phone or operating system.
On the one hand there are advocates who want it to be used by as many people - ordinary people who neither know nor care about "open" software - as possible.
Except that is not even remotely true...Although I am not sure of the relevance to this choice. Ignoring your offensive comments. Its interesting no note...suddenly everybody...those ordinary people(sic) are suddenly concerned about "open" they don't use those words, they use words like "privacy" and "human rights" and "government" and "company" "abuses". We don't talk about open source here because we are clever we are just good at this...I personally would struggle with brain surgery....hell I struggle making food more complicated than pizza, but because we understand the underlying technology more than "cooks" "doctors" "lawyers"...or "brain surgeons", we talk about open source as being part of a possible solution,, as well as it being a great development model, teaching aid, cost saving....Maybe because we know a little bit about it out words matter.