Every announcement since the iPhone 4 has come out hohum.
...and The iPhone market share continues to slip. It is currently at an all time low. This launch was different it was about launching an iPhone in markets with little or no subsidies because Europe and America is Saturated. The $700 Plastic China Phone is a joke; 730 Million potential subscribers got on with buying android.
As for them making great products, so so their competitors. I would say better.
They used to do their own manufacturing way back when, and it's much more convenient and scalable...
The event was a disaster. It is why this topic has come up, and many more will in future, and the investors growl "innovation" more and more. Apple over promised and under delivered and it having the worst drop in stocks since year start reflected that.
They failed selling their OS before (so they should give up?), yet suddenly we have Google walk into the market with Android and Chrome OS to even threaten Apple at the top end of the market with the incredible Pixel, arguing its stupid (which financially it might be), while its computing sales are failing. They need a better answer. Your excuse against competing with Office is Microsoft is too strong...boo hoo; that is buisness, Google think differently and scored another Billion from selling Docs
Apple only sell virtual goods on its own platform, they don't have a store on Android, while Google have their applications on Apple. Where are their physical goods? Why can't I get a toaster from Apple? Amazon used to be just a book store too. Google is fighting tooth and nail against facebook and its having success...from a worse position than from Apple, Apple could have bought twitter. I suspect its too late now. but your answer is its too hard again
Apple competes against the netbook? using a form factor that is selling less than last year, in a market where it has already been overtaken by Android. The reality is they don't have a netbook because they want to protect the macbook air. Google are announcing massive growth with the Chromebook...and they think they can make money from it. Why can't Apple make money from it...is it too hard?
Apple have wasted AppleTV they haven't won by default against nintendo, Android has ten consoles at my last count...how many does Apple have? Ironically what did they use at launch to sell the iPhone 5S...a game? The iPhone has wasted the advantage it *could* have had the Apple TV Console. Chromecast has killed it. If Android TV hadn't already.
The reason why other electronics companies can outperform Apple is they manufacture, and right now are getting all the patents over components. "Designed in" ignoring the ugly connotation of made by children in China and anti blue collar workers, Motorola have started assembling in America again...and have reported success:) Their custom cases make Apples color phones look cheap (they look cheap on their own).
Your answer to everything is its too hard, or not enough money, other people do it. I can see why Apple is failing.
So for years, everyone bitches that Apple doesn't give dividends and doesn't do stock buybacks...
...and Steve Jobs told them to Jump, and did so because Apple was a growth stock not a value stock, buybacks/dividends are what you do with a value stock.
The trouble with Apple is they have become just another electronics company have been since they changed the name to Apple Inc, and they are getting their asses handed to them in that market, by established companies, who simply outperform them. In reality they are just the iPhone company, and they are trying(bless 'em) to innovate in that market its , and that market is becoming increasingly fragile.
How about they try to revolutionise their neglected computing line? How about they sell their OS, looking why iWork failed before? How about they buy Dell; Nintendo; Nokia; Netflix? How about competing with Office instead of limiting it to their products? How about they compete against Amazon; Facebook; Google search and advertising? How about they they do a Netbook or a Console; Car Radio? How about they buy or build a University or Manufacturing facilities?
What are they going to do...buy back shares; How knicker wetting exciting is that?
They will run *cross platform* applications. You can install Linux and run Wine (I don't have wine installed you don't need it). The bottom line is though nobody is buying these devices to run legacy Windows Applications. The iOS and Android don't support windows applications and their market share is greater than Windows. Even the mighty Office was unable to protect Surface from a massive failure. There are devices that run legacy windows Applications...they are experiencing their 6th quarterly drop in sales.
It would *actually* be ironic if Apple was not still growing their cash position, even when giving back a dividend.
But they're doing both.
...But in context of this article they didn't buy Dell...or Netflix...or Blah blah blah, While their profits shrink, Market Share (and sales in case of its iPad/Mac) shrink, Gross Margin compressed. There response has been to over promise and under deliver. The result the iPhone 5C and 5S I think they speak for themselves.
Dell is positioning itself as a enterprise computing provider just when the consumer market is taking off. Where are its Meego Phones; Chromebooks and *Next Generation PC*...the phone space is not the only place that can be innovative. Dell strength was logistics how about they get back to that only supplying interesting products.
No the Delicious Irony is Apple is giving money back to shareholders...to protect its share price. When it should be doing something exciting with that money.
observers saw it as competition for the Apple TV and Roku, or maybe the Ouya
Why is Ouya even mentioned at all, it's hardly in the same league. Their cube is heavily under powered not to mention the rest of the nightmares that came from it.
Because my local Game store sells the OuYa but not the Roku an Apple TV...and its a Game Console, and FYI I am enjoying mine.
From your article "iOS users tracking their expenses on Toshl spent an average of $3,297 every month, 19 percent more than those on Android, who spent $2,761. There's a similar disparity in terms of income."
On Average it might be true that Apple users have 20% more expenses, but then there are six times more Android users. It is also very likely that the top sixth of Android users have more expenses than Apple, Android unlike Apple has phones at all ranges of the market, something Apple is looking to change with Apple 5c
For how long? Microsoft is moving to a future where only software from Microsoft can be installed on its not your devices. Its not even being subtle about it. I suspect my next GNU/Linux will a converted chromebook
The adoption rate of Windows Phone is actually growing at a faster rate than Android (and certainly Apple), right now.
...but growing slower, that is simply how maths works. In fact the reason for the quick Microsoft sale is because of shrinking Windows Phone Sales this quarter, as indicated in this article, and its limited success has been at the bottom end whatever you think of that.
but if I told my non-Linux-geek friends that the iPhone or Windows Phone was junk, they'd laugh at me and stop taking anything I say seriously.
Then your friends do not represent the Worldwide view. Android is 80% Market share, People are simply choosing not to buy Windows Phone/iPhone in anything like the same numbers.
The bottom line is Linux is for everyone and its Android varient hot 1Billion activations this month.
, it still makes sense for them to do it. We don't have to like it, but it still makes sense for them.
Actually it makes makes more sense to properly support Android and iOS for its current hostages on Windows. Windows Phone has been unsuccessful for 3 years now. Perhaps they need a different strategy.
Microsoft won't own Nokia until sometime next year
Microsoft have already financed Nokia for 2Billion. Its unlikely that they can change there mind. Although really why it being Microsoft or Nokia changes anything.
If MSFT / NOK want to make any headway in the US market...
Thinking of the US market is what got Nokia *cough* Microsoft into trouble in the first place. The bottom line is of the 238 million smartphones shipped worldwide only 33Million were in the US, and that is ignoring the fact that they probably would have more success in markets they were successful in before...the larger, and faster growing markets like China and India...Something even Apple are desperate to do and will have announcements for Sept 11th.
Your loss. Its the best mobile OS on the market right now. If you don't know if anybody that owns one, you should try reading a review or two.
Except its not. Android is the most advanced OS by a large margin although that might change (completely?) with iOS 7. Windows Phone 7 was limited at launch and lacked features both the OS it was meant to replace symbian and windows mobile. The internet responded by creating famous lists like this one http://my-symbian.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=44034 . It did get a free pass by reviewers by with reservations...two years after launch http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/3/2921472/lumia-900-review the reviewers stopped http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/3/2921472/lumia-900-review . Then Microsoft threw its userbase away with Windows 8 two years after Windows Phone 7, but people have stopped caring.
The main problem with windows phone is you. Windows Phone has had some success right at the bottom end of the market, because of Nokias hardware...and price with realistic expectations. At the top end its a different story...from the latest RMC rebort "Nokia's latest Lumia 928 and 925 appear to be "compromise devices", whose specs don't measure up to Samsung's flagship Galaxy S4 and HTC's One. Another problem Nokia is facing, according to RBC, is higher than normal return rates for its Lumia devices."
mobile apps are generally still created for their walled garden before more open platform even though it has a falling market share
Android has a larger market for Applications with Apple having only 900,000 Apps http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOS_App_Store vs Androids Play store http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Play 1+ million apps and the gap is going to get wider. The iphone is none existent in some markets, so no developers in those markets create iphone apps. The iphone also uses legacy hardware, and no gaming platform where android has many consoles, and cutting edge devices. The days of iOS exclusive or even first is long gone. Apple is in real trouble if they don't get the launch on the 10th right.
Personally, I think the lawsuit was rather ridiculous, since Amazon was poised to destroy the entire industry,
Ignoring your waffle. By Industry you mean "bleeding customers" by Middle Men who are desperate to remain relevant post paper. Raising ebooks prices has been *damaging* to the ebook industry. Hopefully these parasites will become obsolete one day, how they treat authors is appalling. hopefully we will see a rise in self publishing.
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Every announcement since the iPhone 4 has come out hohum.
...and The iPhone market share continues to slip. It is currently at an all time low. This launch was different it was about launching an iPhone in markets with little or no subsidies because Europe and America is Saturated. The $700 Plastic China Phone is a joke; 730 Million potential subscribers got on with buying android.
As for them making great products, so so their competitors. I would say better.
They used to do their own manufacturing way back when, and it's much more convenient and scalable...
The event was a disaster. It is why this topic has come up, and many more will in future, and the investors growl "innovation" more and more. Apple over promised and under delivered and it having the worst drop in stocks since year start reflected that.
They failed selling their OS before (so they should give up?), yet suddenly we have Google walk into the market with Android and Chrome OS to even threaten Apple at the top end of the market with the incredible Pixel, arguing its stupid (which financially it might be), while its computing sales are failing. They need a better answer. Your excuse against competing with Office is Microsoft is too strong...boo hoo; that is buisness, Google think differently and scored another Billion from selling Docs
Apple only sell virtual goods on its own platform, they don't have a store on Android, while Google have their applications on Apple. Where are their physical goods? Why can't I get a toaster from Apple? Amazon used to be just a book store too. Google is fighting tooth and nail against facebook and its having success...from a worse position than from Apple, Apple could have bought twitter. I suspect its too late now. but your answer is its too hard again
Apple competes against the netbook? using a form factor that is selling less than last year, in a market where it has already been overtaken by Android. The reality is they don't have a netbook because they want to protect the macbook air. Google are announcing massive growth with the Chromebook...and they think they can make money from it. Why can't Apple make money from it...is it too hard?
Apple have wasted AppleTV they haven't won by default against nintendo, Android has ten consoles at my last count...how many does Apple have? Ironically what did they use at launch to sell the iPhone 5S...a game? The iPhone has wasted the advantage it *could* have had the Apple TV Console. Chromecast has killed it. If Android TV hadn't already.
The reason why other electronics companies can outperform Apple is they manufacture, and right now are getting all the patents over components. "Designed in" ignoring the ugly connotation of made by children in China and anti blue collar workers, Motorola have started assembling in America again...and have reported success :) Their custom cases make Apples color phones look cheap (they look cheap on their own).
Your answer to everything is its too hard, or not enough money, other people do it. I can see why Apple is failing.
So for years, everyone bitches that Apple doesn't give dividends and doesn't do stock buybacks...
...and Steve Jobs told them to Jump, and did so because Apple was a growth stock not a value stock, buybacks/dividends are what you do with a value stock.
The trouble with Apple is they have become just another electronics company have been since they changed the name to Apple Inc, and they are getting their asses handed to them in that market, by established companies, who simply outperform them. In reality they are just the iPhone company, and they are trying(bless 'em) to innovate in that market its , and that market is becoming increasingly fragile.
How about they try to revolutionise their neglected computing line?
How about they sell their OS, looking why iWork failed before?
How about they buy Dell; Nintendo; Nokia; Netflix?
How about competing with Office instead of limiting it to their products?
How about they compete against Amazon; Facebook; Google search and advertising?
How about they they do a Netbook or a Console; Car Radio?
How about they buy or build a University or Manufacturing facilities?
What are they going to do...buy back shares; How knicker wetting exciting is that?
will they run my windows apps?
They will run *cross platform* applications. You can install Linux and run Wine (I don't have wine installed you don't need it). The bottom line is though nobody is buying these devices to run legacy Windows Applications. The iOS and Android don't support windows applications and their market share is greater than Windows. Even the mighty Office was unable to protect Surface from a massive failure. There are devices that run legacy windows Applications...they are experiencing their 6th quarterly drop in sales.
It would *actually* be ironic if Apple was not still growing their cash position, even when giving back a dividend.
But they're doing both.
...But in context of this article they didn't buy Dell...or Netflix...or Blah blah blah, While their profits shrink, Market Share (and sales in case of its iPad/Mac) shrink, Gross Margin compressed. There response has been to over promise and under deliver. The result the iPhone 5C and 5S I think they speak for themselves.
I know Slashdot is mostly single guys,
...How? That seems a really stupid thing to say. Having a quick look at the US Census http://www.census.gov/population/www/socdemo/hh-fam/cps2011.html above 15 only 30% have never been married. I suspect the numbers here are higher.
Dell is positioning itself as a enterprise computing provider just when the consumer market is taking off. Where are its Meego Phones; Chromebooks and *Next Generation PC*...the phone space is not the only place that can be innovative. Dell strength was logistics how about they get back to that only supplying interesting products.
No the Delicious Irony is Apple is giving money back to shareholders...to protect its share price. When it should be doing something exciting with that money.
For many reasons.
Clang is faster...
No its slower. Phoronix benchmark GCC vs Clang all the time. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=llvm_clang33_3way&num=1
observers saw it as competition for the Apple TV and Roku, or maybe the Ouya
Why is Ouya even mentioned at all, it's hardly in the same league. Their cube is heavily under powered not to mention the rest of the nightmares that came from it.
Because my local Game store sells the OuYa but not the Roku an Apple TV...and its a Game Console, and FYI I am enjoying mine.
More money to be had maybe?
From your article "iOS users tracking their expenses on Toshl spent an average of $3,297 every month, 19 percent more than those on Android, who spent $2,761. There's a similar disparity in terms of income."
On Average it might be true that Apple users have 20% more expenses, but then there are six times more Android users. It is also very likely that the top sixth of Android users have more expenses than Apple, Android unlike Apple has phones at all ranges of the market, something Apple is looking to change with Apple 5c
Windows Phone/Nokia is actually pretty quite well outside the US.
Worldwide Windows Phones has reached the dizzying heights of 3.8% I wouldn't put too much truck in Kantar Worldpanel here is an earlier report http://www.kantarworldpanel.com/global/News/news-articles/Apple-achieves-its-highest-ever-Smartphone-share-in-US it claims that Apple overtook Android over Christmas in the US. It turned out to be a load of nonsense.
The Surface Pro can run Linux: http://www.geek.com/microsoft/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-the-surface-pro-1539262/
For how long? Microsoft is moving to a future where only software from Microsoft can be installed on its not your devices. Its not even being subtle about it. I suspect my next GNU/Linux will a converted chromebook
Yeah OK. Here's what Android looked like before the iPhone.
http://blog.steventroughtonsmith.com/2012/05/2007s-pre-m3-version-of-android-google.html Google has lots of prototypes including the full screen Sooner. In fact the iPhone is based unashamedly on this Sony prototype http://www.buzzfeed.com/mattbuchanan/the-original-iphone-4-design-prototype-from-2006 .
The bottom line is Android had full screen phones before the iPhone launch, and it was hardly alone.
The adoption rate of Windows Phone is actually growing at a faster rate than Android (and certainly Apple), right now.
...but growing slower, that is simply how maths works. In fact the reason for the quick Microsoft sale is because of shrinking Windows Phone Sales this quarter, as indicated in this article, and its limited success has been at the bottom end whatever you think of that.
but if I told my non-Linux-geek friends that the iPhone or Windows Phone was junk, they'd laugh at me and stop taking anything I say seriously.
Then your friends do not represent the Worldwide view. Android is 80% Market share, People are simply choosing not to buy Windows Phone/iPhone in anything like the same numbers.
The bottom line is Linux is for everyone and its Android varient hot 1Billion activations this month.
Microsoft is not yet the owner of Nokia mobile phone operation. They cannot decide shit - yet.
http://venturebeat.com/2013/09/06/nokia-how-about-2-billion-now-microsoft-ok/ Microsoft have already given $2Billion advance. Its happening. Implying Nokia is making decisions without Microsoft's approval, is simply a strange thing to say especially as the man in charge...is going to be the same!
, it still makes sense for them to do it. We don't have to like it, but it still makes sense for them.
Actually it makes makes more sense to properly support Android and iOS for its current hostages on Windows. Windows Phone has been unsuccessful for 3 years now. Perhaps they need a different strategy.
Microsoft won't own Nokia until sometime next year
Microsoft have already financed Nokia for 2Billion. Its unlikely that they can change there mind. Although really why it being Microsoft or Nokia changes anything.
If MSFT / NOK want to make any headway in the US market...
Thinking of the US market is what got Nokia *cough* Microsoft into trouble in the first place. The bottom line is of the 238 million smartphones shipped worldwide only 33Million were in the US, and that is ignoring the fact that they probably would have more success in markets they were successful in before...the larger, and faster growing markets like China and India...Something even Apple are desperate to do and will have announcements for Sept 11th.
Your loss. Its the best mobile OS on the market right now. If you don't know if anybody that owns one, you should try reading a review or two.
Except its not. Android is the most advanced OS by a large margin although that might change (completely?) with iOS 7. Windows Phone 7 was limited at launch and lacked features both the OS it was meant to replace symbian and windows mobile. The internet responded by creating famous lists like this one http://my-symbian.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=44034 . It did get a free pass by reviewers by with reservations...two years after launch http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/3/2921472/lumia-900-review the reviewers stopped http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/3/2921472/lumia-900-review . Then Microsoft threw its userbase away with Windows 8 two years after Windows Phone 7, but people have stopped caring.
The main problem with windows phone is you. Windows Phone has had some success right at the bottom end of the market, because of Nokias hardware...and price with realistic expectations. At the top end its a different story...from the latest RMC rebort "Nokia's latest Lumia 928 and 925 appear to be "compromise devices", whose specs don't measure up to Samsung's flagship Galaxy S4 and HTC's One. Another problem Nokia is facing, according to RBC, is higher than normal return rates for its Lumia devices."
In the UK at least 6 years ago when the government was all *cough* pushing the idea it was an E-Govenment. Basically a petition was sent to the Government complaining that ISPs offered unlimited data...which in practice was often seriously crippled that offered little data. The response was to pass the buck to the Advertising Agency Authority who still do little to nothing http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/07/03/government_dodges_unlimited/ That was in 2007. It is now 6 years later and nothing changes https://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/ofcom-ban-the-fraudulent-use-of-the-term-unlimited-by-mobile-networks-and-isps .
mobile apps are generally still created for their walled garden before more open platform even though it has a falling market share
Android has a larger market for Applications with Apple having only 900,000 Apps http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOS_App_Store vs Androids Play store http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Play 1+ million apps and the gap is going to get wider. The iphone is none existent in some markets, so no developers in those markets create iphone apps. The iphone also uses legacy hardware, and no gaming platform where android has many consoles, and cutting edge devices. The days of iOS exclusive or even first is long gone. Apple is in real trouble if they don't get the launch on the 10th right.
Personally, I think the lawsuit was rather ridiculous, since Amazon was poised to destroy the entire industry,
Ignoring your waffle. By Industry you mean "bleeding customers" by Middle Men who are desperate to remain relevant post paper. Raising ebooks prices has been *damaging* to the ebook industry. Hopefully these parasites will become obsolete one day, how they treat authors is appalling. hopefully we will see a rise in self publishing.