Were clearance priced / firehouse sold. I'll buy one for $99.00 I need something new to hack on and try to get android/linux running on.
Why? Why would you promote at anti-consumer device over the many open and cheap ones out there? Why would you help a company that calls you a criminal for doing just that. I remember the xbox and how excited it was to run xbox media center and linux, and hell quake on my TV. Now look at at Microsoft on their latest xbox its the most anti consumer device in existence. Microsoft has gone back on many of its overreacting and draconian practices, but not because people have worked around them, but because they have walked away.
I've always wondered... let's say the court finds for the plaintiffs. Shouldn't the current shareholders then be able to sue for the loss of investment from the company having to pay off the past shareholders?
In theory the accountants lay away a certain amount of cash to deal with various lawsuits. It should just be an adjustment next quarter. The current shareholders are suing over being deliberately mislead, which Microsoft Management is not allowed to do to shareholders. Current shareholders could not sue over that:). In theory they could sack the management.
Fat people can fit normal clothes. Plain old, standard, totally normal 5XL t-shirts.
You can wear *anything* as long as its a sack. If you are a man you essentially lose your waist, and as for your post you can wear a extra large tshirt...but it has to be black, oversized to look even a little reasonable. A surprising amount of companies do not even make large clothes, or only have limited range.
If calories in < calories out, you will lose weight.
Except that is an incredibly naive argument. One of the problems with *dieting* is that your body is a machine that has evolved over many centuries, and is simply not fit for today's modern world, which is built around driving to megastores, and sitting in cubicles. Food is chemicals the body can't cope with. Ironically if you eat less your body thinks its being starved...and starts turning food into fat. The bottom line is getting to be the right weight again is a constant struggle, and there is a lot of stupid advice (fad diet of the week). Its very different from an addiction.
They all care. That is the point. You think anyone chooses to be fat, your less attractive, treated badly, can't fit normal clothes, you are generally slow, as well as a whole host of illnesses...yeah you die sooner as well, so I guess others will have to pay for your pension. Overall though its shitty being fat, and you care about it all the time.
I remember when people wrote free software because it scratched an itch.
There are talented individuals producing small free software, or joining organisation to produce larger software, and companies with real money able to contribute/create to free software. Is there no room in that for funding a group *itch*(sic), or helping an (group of) individuals scratch theirs who otherwise wouldn't be able to due to life commitments...software takes time and effort to create.
The bottom line is people produce free software for a whole host of reasons. I personally see money being a great reason, as do all those companies already contributing to free software. In reality its the most common one.
I don't think anyone will really feel the effects of a few less underspec'd machines being on the market. Anyone who could have bought an Acer can still get their underspec'd machine from HP, Lenovo, or any other number of manufacturers.
Your right they won't, but its not because others will make up a shortfall. Its because the PC market has been shrinking for 5 quarters now with no end in sight.
The reason your windows machine's aren't selling is because you make piss-poor products Acer.
When Microsoft crapped all over its OEM Partners(sic), by releasing a device its reference model..and like you have just done announced how rubbish its OEM partners are. Microsoft Spent a billion on Advertising making less in revenue for its sale...and its X86 Twin the Surface Pro, had to devalue its inventory by $900million.
Perhaps a better strategy would have been to treat its partners...as just that partners instead of Victims especially considering OEM now have choices...clearly something Acer is willing to take advantage of.
So they are pulling out of one pointless OS (WinRT) and focus an another even more pointless OS (ChromeBook).
When will they ever learn?
The reason why they are focussing on the chromebook is because its selling. In fact its the fastest growing part of an otherwise lackluster PC Market. The fact that it loosens Microsoft Grip on them is a massive bonus.
So... Where's the company that gives a much longer/better support cycle? Because I sure don't see it.
Microsoft is the the only one pushing the OEM model sold to manufactures. GNU/Linux is Open/Free sold on services...Which is why even the latest of its regular releases of a few months old work on XP computers. Apple is moving towards being an Electronics company (Microsofts Wet Dream) using its OS to differentiate itself from others. They expect you...and demand you update every few years.
Ubuntu if your updating your software...Although some would argue Apple if your updating your hardware. Oh you mean support, by standing still.
When XP's EOL comes, Microsoft will have supported it for nearly 13 years. How long do you want them to support it for?
Yet was only replaced 6 years ago by Vista, and did not have a real alternative till Windows 7. In fact Microsoft sold XP well beyond its Vista Operating Systems to starve off the mobile threat...then in the less threatening Netbook form, XP was used to stave of Linux. A strategy that gained them a few years Windows revenue at the cost of letting the iPad...and now Android into the Personal Computer Space.
In answer to your question...long enough not to let your competitors through the door. Especially if your strategy is to license your OS to *Manufacturers* not customers.
I don't think providing extended-extended support for a customer base who is migrating away from microsoft products is going to make microsoft very much money in the long term.
Microsoft simply has no choice especially if it wants to protect its compatibility insurance with Windows Office. In reality its monopoly in Desktop Applications...Relies on on it being a Monopoly, and it has real competition. I have bought tablets, smartphones, rasberry pi, an Ouya replicating everything I do on a PC. At a fraction of the cost of a less desirable bottom end PC. Intel and Microsoft have been overcharging its hostages on massive gross profits of 70%(Its not working for Apple Macs either), and are finding it very difficult to adjust when its competitors with can produce devices like a Chromebook for $200 a Tablet for $100 a Smartphone for $100 a chromecast for $35. buying an *unpgrade* to the crippled version of Windows 8 at £99($150) is stupid.
The bottom line is any money they earn from cutting off their hostages from essential packages is a potential export to another platform.
I find it funny that if the same thing happened on iOS with a different company, the comments would be more like "a great app that leaves out the things you don't really need" and "well optimized user interface that doesn't get in the way".
Since it's MS, it's "woefully incomplete"....
The bottom line is Metro is not great design. iOS is now unfairly being compared to Vista..when in reality it is simply behind Android, absorbing many much needed Android (and WebOS) like features into iOS. Its difficult to remember with its now "Fuck the American worker" advertisements while spilling design gobbligook that is simply offensive...how awesome iOS was when it was released, and why its so difficult to move on from. Samsung internal 132-page document comparison wrongfully used in the trial shows how far ahead iOS was than Android (and how quickly it has fallen behind) http://www.scribd.com/doc/102317767/Samsung-Relative-Evaluation-Report-on-S1-iPhone it also highlights some great design in iOS.
The bottom line is *simplifying* and *woefully incomplete* are not the same thing, one provides better access to better access to functions you need in a convenient; rational; intuitive form; The other makes the program unusable. completely different ends of the spectrum.
Seems Microsoft still thinks Office is a killer app. The only one still worth something is Excel. The rest can be replaced with better alternatives for most people.
There is nothing special about Excel. I personally Prefer Calc, although they are very similar.
I take exception to your "all of us use MS software", despite your being somewhat vague about which "us" you are referring to.
I'm sorry I was referring to the Desktop Monopoly that Microsoft has had for the past two decades(Now a Desktop App monopoly). My "everyone technical" had used it at some point I think is simply true...not really sure how using it makes you a "clueless end users living under a rock"
Microsoft still has not learned to compete without being abusive monopolist, especially in a market with many competing products. People buy office for compatibility Insurance...Cue scenarios where a power-point document not working justifies the cost to a home user of £8($12) A month...The cost of a top of the range 7" tablet every two years. Competing products are free or equivalent to a one off payment about the same as Microsoft one month from Microsoft. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.microsoft.office.officehub read the reviews the product is simply annoying what should be potential customers by overcharging for an Office product.
The fact that this software is impossible to find on the play store(unlike 365 Sex positions...seriously there are not that many)...its incompatible with my devices, and doesn't work on the more useful tablets!? Microsoft do not understand that people will buy into there ecosystem if you offer them a great product...at great value. If those exist, potential customers may be more willing to look at Microsoft's hardware offerings as something more than a sad joke.
perfect when it is applied in their own os and not in other OS.
What you are implying is that Microsoft cannot code cross platform Applications in a cross platform world. Android has passed 900,000,000 Users and is set to eclipse Windows(On around 1.2 Billion Users) this year. Microsoft need to compete, and to do so they need to produce first class products. Creating poor versions, will further tarnish an already poor brand...All of us use Microsoft's Software, and are more than aware how far from perfect it is on its own platform.
Businesses are not in business to ship tablets. They are in business to make money.... Apple has a long history of getting this right.
Businesses have a thing called going concern, and Apple in their pursuit of chasing (hardware) profits sent them with begging bowls to Microsoft...maybe your history is a little different.
Ironically your example is ideal, Where apple made money on printer hardware...the opposition made money on cartridges. If they had done the same with the IPhone and iPad maybe Android would not have more Apps than Apple, and more downloads. Apple is becoming irrelevant.
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Were clearance priced / firehouse sold. I'll buy one for $99.00 I need something new to hack on and try to get android/linux running on.
Why? Why would you promote at anti-consumer device over the many open and cheap ones out there? Why would you help a company that calls you a criminal for doing just that. I remember the xbox and how excited it was to run xbox media center and linux, and hell quake on my TV. Now look at at Microsoft on their latest xbox its the most anti consumer device in existence. Microsoft has gone back on many of its overreacting and draconian practices, but not because people have worked around them, but because they have walked away.
Buy open devices by default.
Typical sue-happy mentality of the USA: My bad judgement is your fault.
Except that *Judgement* was based on information that is deliberately and intentionally misleading. The Judgement was good.
if they hadn't been softed by Microshaft, they surely would've been by somebody else... :p
Except it was Microsoft. I would love to see Murderers and Rapists using a similar defence.
I've always wondered... let's say the court finds for the plaintiffs. Shouldn't the current shareholders then be able to sue for the loss of investment from the company having to pay off the past shareholders?
In theory the accountants lay away a certain amount of cash to deal with various lawsuits. It should just be an adjustment next quarter. The current shareholders are suing over being deliberately mislead, which Microsoft Management is not allowed to do to shareholders. Current shareholders could not sue over that :). In theory they could sack the management.
You should sue whoever "educated" you. ...
</unwanted education>
your “non-empty” markup tags are meant to come in pairs. :)
Fat people can fit normal clothes. Plain old, standard, totally normal 5XL t-shirts.
You can wear *anything* as long as its a sack. If you are a man you essentially lose your waist, and as for your post you can wear a extra large tshirt...but it has to be black, oversized to look even a little reasonable. A surprising amount of companies do not even make large clothes, or only have limited range.
If calories in < calories out, you will lose weight.
Except that is an incredibly naive argument. One of the problems with *dieting* is that your body is a machine that has evolved over many centuries, and is simply not fit for today's modern world, which is built around driving to megastores, and sitting in cubicles. Food is chemicals the body can't cope with. Ironically if you eat less your body thinks its being starved...and starts turning food into fat. The bottom line is getting to be the right weight again is a constant struggle, and there is a lot of stupid advice (fad diet of the week). Its very different from an addiction.
What do they care?
They all care. That is the point. You think anyone chooses to be fat, your less attractive, treated badly, can't fit normal clothes, you are generally slow, as well as a whole host of illnesses...yeah you die sooner as well, so I guess others will have to pay for your pension. Overall though its shitty being fat, and you care about it all the time.
You get penalised for being fat.
I remember when people wrote free software because it scratched an itch.
There are talented individuals producing small free software, or joining organisation to produce larger software, and companies with real money able to contribute/create to free software. Is there no room in that for funding a group *itch*(sic), or helping an (group of) individuals scratch theirs who otherwise wouldn't be able to due to life commitments...software takes time and effort to create.
The bottom line is people produce free software for a whole host of reasons. I personally see money being a great reason, as do all those companies already contributing to free software. In reality its the most common one.
I don't think anyone will really feel the effects of a few less underspec'd machines being on the market. Anyone who could have bought an Acer can still get their underspec'd machine from HP, Lenovo, or any other number of manufacturers.
Your right they won't, but its not because others will make up a shortfall. Its because the PC market has been shrinking for 5 quarters now with no end in sight.
The reason your windows machine's aren't selling is because you make piss-poor products Acer.
When Microsoft crapped all over its OEM Partners(sic), by releasing a device its reference model..and like you have just done announced how rubbish its OEM partners are. Microsoft Spent a billion on Advertising making less in revenue for its sale...and its X86 Twin the Surface Pro, had to devalue its inventory by $900million.
Perhaps a better strategy would have been to treat its partners...as just that partners instead of Victims especially considering OEM now have choices...clearly something Acer is willing to take advantage of.
So they are pulling out of one pointless OS (WinRT) and focus an another even more pointless OS (ChromeBook).
When will they ever learn?
The reason why they are focussing on the chromebook is because its selling. In fact its the fastest growing part of an otherwise lackluster PC Market. The fact that it loosens Microsoft Grip on them is a massive bonus.
So... Where's the company that gives a much longer/better support cycle? Because I sure don't see it.
Microsoft is the the only one pushing the OEM model sold to manufactures. GNU/Linux is Open/Free sold on services...Which is why even the latest of its regular releases of a few months old work on XP computers. Apple is moving towards being an Electronics company (Microsofts Wet Dream) using its OS to differentiate itself from others. They expect you...and demand you update every few years.
Ubuntu if your updating your software...Although some would argue Apple if your updating your hardware. Oh you mean support, by standing still.
When XP's EOL comes, Microsoft will have supported it for nearly 13 years. How long do you want them to support it for?
Yet was only replaced 6 years ago by Vista, and did not have a real alternative till Windows 7. In fact Microsoft sold XP well beyond its Vista Operating Systems to starve off the mobile threat...then in the less threatening Netbook form, XP was used to stave of Linux. A strategy that gained them a few years Windows revenue at the cost of letting the iPad...and now Android into the Personal Computer Space.
In answer to your question...long enough not to let your competitors through the door. Especially if your strategy is to license your OS to *Manufacturers* not customers.
I don't think providing extended-extended support for a customer base who is migrating away from microsoft products is going to make microsoft very much money in the long term.
http://articles.latimes.com/2006/apr/09/business/fi-micropiracy9 "Piracy also prevents free, open-source alternatives such as Linux from chipping away at Microsoft's monopolies, especially in developing nations."
Nothing has changed simply because Microsoft is heading towards a self generated deadline.
I don't see a problem. They probably pirated most of those copies of XP and they'll do the same for 7 or 8.
If all copies of Windows are the same price you have to expect they have *chosen* windows xp over Windows 7 for a reason.
Its not difficult to imagine that many of these machines simply will not work with anything other an XP.
Microsoft simply has no choice especially if it wants to protect its compatibility insurance with Windows Office. In reality its monopoly in Desktop Applications...Relies on on it being a Monopoly, and it has real competition. I have bought tablets, smartphones, rasberry pi, an Ouya replicating everything I do on a PC. At a fraction of the cost of a less desirable bottom end PC. Intel and Microsoft have been overcharging its hostages on massive gross profits of 70%(Its not working for Apple Macs either), and are finding it very difficult to adjust when its competitors with can produce devices like a Chromebook for $200 a Tablet for $100 a Smartphone for $100 a chromecast for $35. buying an *unpgrade* to the crippled version of Windows 8 at £99($150) is stupid.
The bottom line is any money they earn from cutting off their hostages from essential packages is a potential export to another platform.
I find it funny that if the same thing happened on iOS with a different company, the comments would be more like "a great app that leaves out the things you don't really need" and "well optimized user interface that doesn't get in the way".
Since it's MS, it's "woefully incomplete"....
The bottom line is Metro is not great design. iOS is now unfairly being compared to Vista..when in reality it is simply behind Android, absorbing many much needed Android (and WebOS) like features into iOS. Its difficult to remember with its now "Fuck the American worker" advertisements while spilling design gobbligook that is simply offensive...how awesome iOS was when it was released, and why its so difficult to move on from. Samsung internal 132-page document comparison wrongfully used in the trial shows how far ahead iOS was than Android (and how quickly it has fallen behind) http://www.scribd.com/doc/102317767/Samsung-Relative-Evaluation-Report-on-S1-iPhone it also highlights some great design in iOS.
The bottom line is *simplifying* and *woefully incomplete* are not the same thing, one provides better access to better access to functions you need in a convenient; rational; intuitive form; The other makes the program unusable. completely different ends of the spectrum.
Seems Microsoft still thinks Office is a killer app. The only one still worth something is Excel. The rest can be replaced with better alternatives for most people.
There is nothing special about Excel. I personally Prefer Calc, although they are very similar.
I take exception to your "all of us use MS software", despite your being somewhat vague about which "us" you are referring to.
I'm sorry I was referring to the Desktop Monopoly that Microsoft has had for the past two decades(Now a Desktop App monopoly). My "everyone technical" had used it at some point I think is simply true...not really sure how using it makes you a "clueless end users living under a rock"
You are simply wrong
Microsoft still has not learned to compete without being abusive monopolist, especially in a market with many competing products. People buy office for compatibility Insurance...Cue scenarios where a power-point document not working justifies the cost to a home user of £8($12) A month...The cost of a top of the range 7" tablet every two years. Competing products are free or equivalent to a one off payment about the same as Microsoft one month from Microsoft. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.microsoft.office.officehub read the reviews the product is simply annoying what should be potential customers by overcharging for an Office product.
The fact that this software is impossible to find on the play store(unlike 365 Sex positions...seriously there are not that many)...its incompatible with my devices, and doesn't work on the more useful tablets!? Microsoft do not understand that people will buy into there ecosystem if you offer them a great product...at great value. If those exist, potential customers may be more willing to look at Microsoft's hardware offerings as something more than a sad joke.
perfect when it is applied in their own os and not in other OS.
What you are implying is that Microsoft cannot code cross platform Applications in a cross platform world. Android has passed 900,000,000 Users and is set to eclipse Windows(On around 1.2 Billion Users) this year. Microsoft need to compete, and to do so they need to produce first class products. Creating poor versions, will further tarnish an already poor brand...All of us use Microsoft's Software, and are more than aware how far from perfect it is on its own platform.
Businesses are not in business to ship tablets. They are in business to make money. ... Apple has a long history of getting this right.
Businesses have a thing called going concern, and Apple in their pursuit of chasing (hardware) profits sent them with begging bowls to Microsoft...maybe your history is a little different.
Ironically your example is ideal, Where apple made money on printer hardware...the opposition made money on cartridges. If they had done the same with the IPhone and iPad maybe Android would not have more Apps than Apple, and more downloads. Apple is becoming irrelevant.
Ignoring the whole Google+ war on facebook
Isn't that like Luxembourg deciding its at war with Germany? Or Polish knights on horseback charging the Panzers?
Maybe a more sensible analogy would be Google Search vs Yahoo; Gmail vs Hotmail; Android vs iOS
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Itws one of the many reasons why its my browser of choice.