"If there are simple "rules" to create proteins, maybe that's how nature was able to come up with life so quickly."
OK...but who/what is nature to develop/come up with these rules? The argument your trying to debunk is that they couldn't be created by chance....there is nothing chance about having "rules" to create proteins...and for that matter...order.
What's interesting to me is that, in this service oriented society we have, how little value many people place on hard science. Why would you need trig or calc if your going to sell insurance? Why learn all this science mumbo-jumbo if you are going to sell shoes at payless....or clean carpets?
One of my CompSci professors actually had a math undergrad. He worked on national defense radar systems back in the 80's. He had to use the math extensively to develop algorithms to calculate which resources could intercept, flight path and speed to intercept unautorized planes etc... I am sure he needed more than algebra to do that.
"No, ma'am. Had you read my post you'd see that I had said 5 or 6 million hits. Now consider that even just 1% of those 5 million hits throw an exception. That's 50 000 exceptions."
If you are even throwing 5k execptions in a day on an ENTERPRISE site...you have more problems to deal with...like learning how to CODE a stable site. If you had a common enough exception for 5000...your going to get allot more than that. Even with 5000 exceptions bad bad things are happening. Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies. Rivers and seas boiling. Forty years of darkness. Earthquakes, volcanoes... The dead rising from the grave.
Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together - mass hysteria!
Thank you...I feel honored a lot! Actually, its one of my commonly mispelled words/phrases. In my haste to reply, and forgetting its slashdot, I neglected to proof and/or pay attention...therefore the error. I can assure you it might not happen again.:)
Yea, thats kind of my delima. However, there are some great courses in some of the programs I am looking at for a MSCS. I actually "want" to learn this stuff...artificial intelligence, computer vision, etc...
IN response to your MSSE quest...I have heard good things about Auburns program.. it is distance.
Here is a link: http://www.auburn.edu/distance_learning/programs/e ng_mcse/
This is one I briefly considered in the past. The two programs I am trying to decide between are Columbia's MSCS program and Boston's MSCIS program...which looks very nice.
Hope that helps!
I couldn't agree more. Allot of software companies hire CIS grads...mainly because they are cheaper than full CS grads. What happens when a software company retools and moves on to new languages? Either the employees 1) Move on to other companies or professions out of frustration with having to learn a new language, 2) Get canned because they are no longer in need, or 3) Ante up and push through to learn a new language. Unfortunately, 1 and 2 are usually the direction things go. CS grads on the other hand have the theoretical knowledge to move between languages with a fair amount of ease. CS grads are the ones that don't rely on the fancy gui's or pre-built code snipits and controls to do all their work...they know how to do this in code....while many CIS's do not. For me...I can look at pretty much ANY modern language and tell what its doing...get a syntax reference book, and start editing. CIS grads that I know...would just freak...because they were taught more business skills instead of theory. I don't discount the CIS degrees, I just don't think they are very practical for the true-blue programmer or shall I say "engineer". I have recently been struggling on whether I should push through and get a masters in computer science or take the easy way out (for me at least) and get a masters in CIS. I keep having to remind me of these facts...over and over... CIS curriculum teaches "Java" or "VB", while CS curriculum teaches "Data Structures" and "Operating Systems". Sure..languages (c++) are taught in these classes..but the focus is on language structure...not the language in particular.
"It only encourages people to keep on using proprietary and closed Windows software instead of extolling the virtues of free software."
You will never rid the world of closed-source and non-free software. I do believe in the concepts of OSS for things such as operating systems and commodity apps. However, you will never convince, for instance, a medical software company to produce open source code. Firstly, you wouldn't be able to support the vast development and marketing requirements without getting paid for the software. You wont get paid for the software if everybody has access to the source, therefore you will not recoop your development costs. I don't think the OSS world will ever be able to convince the world otherwise. There are some apps, I call them commodity apps, that are deffinately needing to be OSS and free. However, there are just too many high-end applications that would never be made if people can't make money on them.
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"If there are simple "rules" to create proteins, maybe that's how nature was able to come up with life so quickly."
OK...but who/what is nature to develop/come up with these rules? The argument your trying to debunk is that they couldn't be created by chance....there is nothing chance about having "rules" to create proteins...and for that matter...order.
Wow...all I can say is...that was funny!
What's interesting to me is that, in this service oriented society we have, how little value many people place on hard science. Why would you need trig or calc if your going to sell insurance? Why learn all this science mumbo-jumbo if you are going to sell shoes at payless....or clean carpets?
One of my CompSci professors actually had a math undergrad. He worked on national defense radar systems back in the 80's. He had to use the math extensively to develop algorithms to calculate which resources could intercept, flight path and speed to intercept unautorized planes etc... I am sure he needed more than algebra to do that.
Further if an enterprise site is using a freebee exception tracking service...well..I really don't have to say anything do I.
"No, ma'am. Had you read my post you'd see that I had said 5 or 6 million hits. Now consider that even just 1% of those 5 million hits throw an exception. That's 50 000 exceptions." If you are even throwing 5k execptions in a day on an ENTERPRISE site...you have more problems to deal with...like learning how to CODE a stable site. If you had a common enough exception for 5000...your going to get allot more than that. Even with 5000 exceptions bad bad things are happening. Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies. Rivers and seas boiling. Forty years of darkness. Earthquakes, volcanoes... The dead rising from the grave. Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together - mass hysteria!
Thank you...I feel honored a lot! Actually, its one of my commonly mispelled words/phrases. In my haste to reply, and forgetting its slashdot, I neglected to proof and/or pay attention...therefore the error. I can assure you it might not happen again. :)
Yea, thats kind of my delima. However, there are some great courses in some of the programs I am looking at for a MSCS. I actually "want" to learn this stuff...artificial intelligence, computer vision, etc... IN response to your MSSE quest...I have heard good things about Auburns program .. it is distance.
Here is a link: http://www.auburn.edu/distance_learning/programs/e ng_mcse/
This is one I briefly considered in the past. The two programs I am trying to decide between are Columbia's MSCS program and Boston's MSCIS program...which looks very nice.
Hope that helps!
I couldn't agree more. Allot of software companies hire CIS grads...mainly because they are cheaper than full CS grads. What happens when a software company retools and moves on to new languages? Either the employees 1) Move on to other companies or professions out of frustration with having to learn a new language, 2) Get canned because they are no longer in need, or 3) Ante up and push through to learn a new language. Unfortunately, 1 and 2 are usually the direction things go. CS grads on the other hand have the theoretical knowledge to move between languages with a fair amount of ease. CS grads are the ones that don't rely on the fancy gui's or pre-built code snipits and controls to do all their work...they know how to do this in code....while many CIS's do not. For me...I can look at pretty much ANY modern language and tell what its doing...get a syntax reference book, and start editing. CIS grads that I know...would just freak...because they were taught more business skills instead of theory. I don't discount the CIS degrees, I just don't think they are very practical for the true-blue programmer or shall I say "engineer". I have recently been struggling on whether I should push through and get a masters in computer science or take the easy way out (for me at least) and get a masters in CIS. I keep having to remind me of these facts...over and over... CIS curriculum teaches "Java" or "VB", while CS curriculum teaches "Data Structures" and "Operating Systems". Sure..languages (c++) are taught in these classes..but the focus is on language structure...not the language in particular.
"It only encourages people to keep on using proprietary and closed Windows software instead of extolling the virtues of free software." You will never rid the world of closed-source and non-free software. I do believe in the concepts of OSS for things such as operating systems and commodity apps. However, you will never convince, for instance, a medical software company to produce open source code. Firstly, you wouldn't be able to support the vast development and marketing requirements without getting paid for the software. You wont get paid for the software if everybody has access to the source, therefore you will not recoop your development costs. I don't think the OSS world will ever be able to convince the world otherwise. There are some apps, I call them commodity apps, that are deffinately needing to be OSS and free. However, there are just too many high-end applications that would never be made if people can't make money on them.