Linux becomes a Windows product! If I think of it that way, this might be a good thing. An oppurtunity to run any Operating System(Linux/Windows/Mac) from anyother OS so you can have the best of all worlds. Windows could be a screen saver on Linux too.
It could prove to be a starting point for making OSs truly independent, not by letting various OSs talk to each other, but instead to run within and in concert with each other.
For those of us who use both Operating Systems and don't look condescendingly on either this would be a great way to switch - maybe without rebooting - Maybe with a hot key and not a screen saver though.
Alas, I don't think flamers and trolls would ever allow such a thing - not that they matter.:)
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1.Education in India is not 2 year boot camps it is usually 4 years for an education in IT. Also, the reason most of these folks are better than there US counterparts is because the Indian Education System is very difficult.Also, some of the worlds best technical institutes are in India. Ever heard of 'Asok' in Dilbert strips, he was from Indian Inst. of Tech. and he could blow up your head by just concentrating;)
2.There are really 2 kinds of outsourcing, IT and ITES (or BPO) IT outsourcing is about programming and is called so because it was the first wave well before BPO. When the BPO wave came they decided to call it BPO so that one could differentiate between the two, so folks like you and me could talk about it intelligently.
3.If you cant find people in India, its your head-hunter who is usually to blame. Also, this whole exercise is more complicated than you might at first imagine. For example most Indians don't like to relocate to a different city - they prefer staying with thier families and usually their parents are old and need care.Also, like someone mentioned it is very easy to retrain programmers on other languages etc.
4.This whole discussion is dominated by 'IT' the 2.5 million folks who graduate arent all IT and a lot more than IT is getting outsourced to India now.Trust me it will suprise you what new work is getting outsourced, everything from lawyers to doctors to mathematicians and tutors and...
5.One of the basic reasons that a US programmer is expensive is because the education is expensive. Why do you want to make knowledge so expensive and inaccesible? Shouldnt education be cheap - bad US govt. policies? Arent you te folks who invented all this free knowledge thingy? Open source and Wikipedia and what not? Well, some advice make it cheap to get trained in the US and do it fast.
6.Employees are not slave drivers in India - most companies have decent office culture and practices.Very uninformed opinnion!
7.I believe that once Asia and Africa are done with, the work will go back to the US - it will be the developing country then. In the next century Asia will completely outrun the US in every walk of life.
8.Someone mentioned that every outsourcing story they heard was a disaster - obviously they havent a clue!:)
Anyway what do you folks say?
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Apologies for typos and bad formatting - NO TIME.
A few years from now;)
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Ram: Hi I just called to get some money transfered from my Bank of America account to the State Bank of India account
American Man: Yes sir.
Ram: Here is my account number "12354"
American Man: Yes Sir, and what will the amount be..
Ram: Make that $2,000,000.
American Man: Yes Sir.
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The joke is on the Americans I think, and maybe even on Linux. Cause Indians and Microsoft both have one thing in common. They make Money!:)
Folks - Firstly, please consider that the 1 in 12 movies statistic includes all the top movies and the B and C class movies. Although only Russ may watch the B and C Class movies but they still count.;) (Joking don't take it personal).
Secondly, If you check Hollywood's Statistic it would be similar.
Thirdly, India does not have a Pop Music industry which is as big as the US. The song and dance in the movies is a substitute. It provides almost all the music and in a lot of senses is far more sophisticated as a business then Hollywood.
Fourthly, the 1 in 12 statistic makes you believe that the cost for the 12 movies are similiar. Not usually the case, only a top few directors make high budget movies that make profit the other 11 are movies with extremely low budget made by hundreds of unknown or less popular folks.
Lastly, Bombay does have an underworld presence, the Mafiosi;) and not everymovie is made to profit, some are just favours from the capos to introduce new actors/actresses.
4000 coders * 18 months, We could rewrite the program that runs this solar system!:)
I have noticed that we the consumers have more stupid talk to make about MS Vs. Linux Vs. God knows what! than is necessary - most people aren't even in a postition to understand either operating system - technically speaking. Just rebuilding/recompiling your Linux system does not make you cool.
There is a lot both these cultures (MS and Linux) are doing for us and instead of adopting the best from both, most people talk like losers who want to take sides so that they have sides to take!
So please STFU and let the rest of us listen to the music;)
I just visited a website yesterday which was advocating Open Source concepts for Six Sigma.
I think the URL was http://www.treqna.com/
How open source spreads:)
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I think we should also worry about the guys who are paying for this illegally sourced data - in my opinion that is where the problem begins.
Linux becomes a Windows product! If I think of it that way, this might be a good thing. An oppurtunity to run any Operating System(Linux/Windows/Mac) from anyother OS so you can have the best of all worlds. Windows could be a screen saver on Linux too.
:)
It could prove to be a starting point for making OSs truly independent, not by letting various OSs talk to each other, but instead to run within and in concert with each other.
For those of us who use both Operating Systems and don't look condescendingly on either this would be a great way to switch - maybe without rebooting - Maybe with a hot key and not a screen saver though.
Alas, I don't think flamers and trolls would ever allow such a thing - not that they matter.
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Sacrifice the things you like doing for the things you Love doing
Anyway what do you folks say? ------- Apologies for typos and bad formatting - NO TIME.
A few years from now ;)
--
Ram: Hi I just called to get some money transfered from my Bank of America account to the State Bank of India account
American Man: Yes sir.
Ram: Here is my account number "12354"
American Man: Yes Sir, and what will the amount be..
Ram: Make that $2,000,000.
American Man: Yes Sir.
--
The joke is on the Americans I think, and maybe even on Linux. Cause Indians and Microsoft both have one thing in common. They make Money! :)
Folks - Firstly, please consider that the 1 in 12 movies statistic includes all the top movies and the B and C class movies. Although only Russ may watch the B and C Class movies but they still count. ;) (Joking don't take it personal).
Secondly, If you check Hollywood's Statistic it would be similar.
Thirdly, India does not have a Pop Music industry which is as big as the US. The song and dance in the movies is a substitute. It provides almost all the music and in a lot of senses is far more sophisticated as a business then Hollywood.
Fourthly, the 1 in 12 statistic makes you believe that the cost for the 12 movies are similiar. Not usually the case, only a top few directors make high budget movies that make profit the other 11 are movies with extremely low budget made by hundreds of unknown or less popular folks.
Lastly, Bombay does have an underworld presence, the Mafiosi ;) and not everymovie is made to profit, some are just favours from the capos to introduce new actors/actresses.
4000 coders * 18 months, We could rewrite the program that runs this solar system! :)
I have noticed that we the consumers have more stupid talk to make about MS Vs. Linux Vs. God knows what! than is necessary - most people aren't even in a postition to understand either operating system - technically speaking. Just rebuilding/recompiling your Linux system does not make you cool.
There is a lot both these cultures (MS and Linux) are doing for us and instead of adopting the best from both, most people talk like losers who want to take sides so that they have sides to take!
So please STFU and let the rest of us listen to the music ;)
I just visited a website yesterday which was advocating Open Source concepts for Six Sigma. I think the URL was http://www.treqna.com/ How open source spreads :)